UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 72.

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Quote from: Bobrox on May 25, 2023, 01:03:53 PM

Manchester City become the favorite team winning Champion League in this season actually with their journey defeated bigger team on quarter final until semifinal stage from Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Difference with Inter Milan journey success lead until final in Champion League not any difficult or bigger team but any possibilities will happen because Inter Milan on good trend after winning Copa Italia last night.

Pep Guardiola is smart head coach, he know about first and second line for scoring goal, when huge pressure for Haaland will appear another player on second line for scoring goals like Bernando Silva or possibilities with De Bryune. Inter need focus not only with Haaland but also have huge pressure for Manchester City's midfielder area how to stop De Bruyne can't easily controlling the ball.

Manchester City has always been a favorite when it reached the final, do you still remember when Manchester City vs Chelsea in the final a few years ago?
Where almost all of them support Manchester City including the gambling market, but in the end Chelsea won this kind of thing often happens in the final
I personally also support Manchester City but I will not be in a hurry to bet on them many things to consider.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 25, 2023, 06:08:57 AM

Most people favor Manchester city and I also bet on the match later because I feel confident about that, I bet on Manchester City to win, but besides that I also don't want to underestimate Intermilan, so far Inter Milan have fought hard to qualify for the final, of course they didn't. will just give in let alone give victory to Manchester City, I'm sure Intermilan won't appear to attack but they will play defensively and expect counterattacks to score goals.

Guardiola seems to have a good strategy and tactics to face Inter Milan in the final, especially in yesterday's semifinals Haaland couldn't score at all against Madrid because Madrid's defense was quite strong, I hope Haaland can score goals as freely as he scored against clubs in the EPL.

Manchester City become the favorite team winning Champion League in this season actually with their journey defeated bigger team on quarter final until semifinal stage from Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Difference with Inter Milan journey success lead until final in Champion League not any difficult or bigger team but any possibilities will happen because Inter Milan on good trend after winning Copa Italia last night.

Pep Guardiola is smart head coach, he know about first and second line for scoring goal, when huge pressure for Haaland will appear another player on second line for scoring goals like Bernando Silva or possibilities with De Bryune. Inter need focus not only with Haaland but also have huge pressure for Manchester City's midfielder area how to stop De Bruyne can't easily controlling the ball.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on May 25, 2023, 12:18:28 PM

There's nothing wrong with what you say and anyone will definitely make Man City their favorite to win the match. But we also need to have another point of view, that in the final anything can happen, even the mentality of a big team that has dangerous troops can make mistakes that will boomerang on their defense.

I bank on the experience of some of the players in Italian team to not make the game easy for Manchester city. Pep has been resting his key players waiting for that game, Inter Milan have to be prepared for a tough game where they will be under pressure the most in the game. From the starting whistle, Inter Milan need to push forward and not allow Manchester city push the midfield position very close their penalty area as the usually do. Playing a really high line will affect the strategy of Manchester city, but the Inter Milan defenders have to be sharp and on alert to make sure that Manchester city do not find the space to play through balls for their pacy attackers to take advantage of. Inter Milan's strategy has to be well executed if they will win the Champions league.

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Guardiola will only be successful in this Champions League final if he does not try anything that is really funny. I remember the last time that he went to Champions League final against Chelsea, he did something not expected by anyone. He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was. Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

No he is not going to try any new experiments in that final! He will stick to his strongest line-up and I don't exactly remember how it was in the Champions League final against Chelsea. Was his rotation due to any injuries or minor fitness issues or was it purely because he wanted to try something new? I remember that he did rotate, but I am not sure what the reason was. If it was only experimental, then it obviously wasn't very good timing to try out something new. Cheesy

It's been his best season to bring the Champions League trophy for the first time to Manchester City, so I don't think they'll try anything new at a time of determination like this. They have been waiting for the final match and this opportunity for a long time, even when they fail they keep on trying again until they manage to be at this point. Pep Guardiola knows very well what he has to do, so I'm sure he will play with his best squad.

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First of all, Inzaghi has been an improvement for Inter this season. After a really good time period with Conte in the 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons Conte left the team and Inzaghi was brought to the position. Conte had a Serie A title as an achievement during his time which was impressive. Inzaghi needed to do better than that to be called even a better choice. He missed the Serie A title by a slight difference last season and they weren't even in it in this one.

However Inzaghi is doing something greater right now. He has carried the team to the Champions League finale which Inter really missed. After becoming the champions in the 2009/10 season this must be the closest time they are to repeat this. However we still need to be realistic about this of course. Inter are going to face the worst kind of competitor they can for themselves.

For now, I see it like there is no way Manchester City aren't making it to the title for the first time in their history. The only thing Inter they can do against them seems like to try to defend them in a tight way and look for some counter-attacks. If their luck helps then maybe they can prevent the game from ending in 90 minutes at least.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 25, 2023, 11:17:44 AM

Manchester city is indeed predicted to win the treble winner this season if they can get the champions league title, but Inter also just won the Coppa Italia last night and at the same time makes them have the same opportunity to get the treble winner by winning the champions league title this season.

It seems that the competition between the two teams is getting more interesting, especially since the determinant for the treble winner this season is who will win the champion's league title and seeing that each team's chances of winning this are still quite wide open. As we get closer to the final round of the Champions League, the two teams are certainly very excited to be able to win the treble winner in all competitions this season.

This is what will be the Champions League Final match that will attract more attention. Both clubs have won trophies, but Man City has only secured one trophy and the FA Cup trophy target is quite promising. In addition, Inter is increasingly establishing itself and achieving proud achievements, this will create even greater motivation in the pursuit of the Champions League. Even though Man City's position is far superior, we also don't rule out that Inter will do everything they can to win the UCL trophy.

Quote from: giammangiato on May 25, 2023, 11:54:06 AM

after eliminating the real competitor, and I'm talking about Real Madrid, Manchester City practically won the cup

what do you want Inter Milan to do, they are not a team capable of beating Guardiola's team, Manchester City will win

There's nothing wrong with what you say and anyone will definitely make Man City their favorite to win the match. But we also need to have another point of view, that in the final anything can happen, even the mentality of a big team that has dangerous troops can make mistakes that will boomerang on their defense.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 25, 2023, 11:17:44 AM

Manchester city is indeed predicted to win the treble winner this season if they can get the champions league title, but Inter also just won the Coppa Italia last night and at the same time makes them have the same opportunity to get the treble winner by winning the champions league title this season.

It seems that the competition between the two teams is getting more interesting, especially since the determinant for the treble winner this season is who will win the champion's league title and seeing that each team's chances of winning this are still quite wide open. As we get closer to the final round of the Champions League, the two teams are certainly very excited to be able to win the treble winner in all competitions this season.

I put Manchester city as a club that will achieve that, but I also won't rule out the possibility that Inter Milan will also get it by winning the final, yes, even though their chances are no bigger than Manchetser City's.
In terms of strength, Manchester City is ahead of Inter Milan, and I'm sure many agree with this, not without reason, because they have also shown something extraordinary throughout the season, including in the Premier League by continuing to chase Arsenal and in the end they ended up being champions. there.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 25, 2023, 11:17:44 AM

Manchester city is indeed predicted to win the treble winner this season if they can get the champions league title, but Inter also just won the Coppa Italia last night and at the same time makes them have the same opportunity to get the treble winner by winning the champions league title this season.

It seems that the competition between the two teams is getting more interesting, especially since the determinant for the treble winner this season is who will win the champion's league title and seeing that each team's chances of winning this are still quite wide open. As we get closer to the final round of the Champions League, the two teams are certainly very excited to be able to win the treble winner in all competitions this season.

after eliminating the real competitor, and I'm talking about Real Madrid, Manchester City practically won the cup

what do you want Inter Milan to do, they are not a team capable of beating Guardiola's team, Manchester City will win

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 25, 2023, 03:30:25 AM

Guardiola will only be successful in this Champions League final if he does not try anything that is really funny. I remember the last time that he went to Champions League final against Chelsea, he did something not expected by anyone. He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was. Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

No he is not going to try any new experiments in that final! He will stick to his strongest line-up and I don't exactly remember how it was in the Champions League final against Chelsea. Was his rotation due to any injuries or minor fitness issues or was it purely because he wanted to try something new? I remember that he did rotate, but I am not sure what the reason was. If it was only experimental, then it obviously wasn't very good timing to try out something new. Cheesy

Manchester City's defeat against Chelsea was mainly due to tactical weakness. Guardiola wanted to apply the same strategy in a completely new way. But the players can't adapt themselves to the strategy. As a result, they were defeated. Hope Guardiola doesn't make any tactical mistakes against Inter Milan. If Manchester City don't change their strategy and play the same strategy against Inter Milan, I think they will win. Manchester City is much more organized and stronger this season than in previous seasons. I expect Manchester City to win.

It is like shooting from the hip when you say that tactical adaptation couldn't work, result is a loss. That is too quick here. I agree that Guardiola should probably not have made this change. But that is the risk coaches always carry. They make a decision and if the team wins, the decision was right. If the team loses, the decision was wrong. But imagine life would be that simple. When life would only be about a one time right or wrong. Sometimes you make wrong decisions and they work out. Sometimes you make a right decision but it doesn't work out immediately. That is why I am not sure whether Guariola's decision was wrong from the get go. He still had 11 players on the pitch who could certainly have won the game. Even if Guardiola wouldn't even have been in the stadium, professionals at this level could still win. Chelsea had the better end on their side. But now the confidence that Manchester City displays makes me think that they won't leave anything untouched that could turn against them.

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Manchester city is indeed predicted to win the treble winner this season if they can get the champions league title, but Inter also just won the Coppa Italia last night and at the same time makes them have the same opportunity to get the treble winner by winning the champions league title this season.

It seems that the competition between the two teams is getting more interesting, especially since the determinant for the treble winner this season is who will win the champion's league title and seeing that each team's chances of winning this are still quite wide open. As we get closer to the final round of the Champions League, the two teams are certainly very excited to be able to win the treble winner in all competitions this season.

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I'm not sure but I think if Macnshter City wins the game in the final match against Inter Milan they should be thankful to their coach, Guardiola. Because before Guardiola gets didn't have a performance like this to beat strong teams like Bayern Munich and Real Madrid with good results.
However, I think the odds for Inter Milan are high enough and tempting for most people to bet on Inter Milan instead of Macnshter City which can be a risky bet.

Pep Guardiola is an experienced coach and has brought several big clubs to the top of glory. Pep Guardiola has even presented 14 trophies for Barcelona (2 Champions League trophies) and 7 trophies for Bayern. In the English league, Pep Guardiola has also made Manchester City have many trophies in the local league. it's just that for the UCL trophy it wasn't until last season. Maybe this season is an opportunity for Pep Guardiola to present the UCL trophy for Manchester City for the first time. And I'm really looking forward to it.

I wonder what is giving people confidence to think Inter Milan will beat Manchester City in the Champions league finals. Inter Milan succeeded in winning the semi-finals, it doesn't mean Inter is one of the strongest team in Champions league. Napoli is no more in Champions league, it not as if Napoli is weak or Inter is better. Inter is lucky to be in the final, and I'm very sure they can't challenge Manchester City to win the Champions league. Manchester City will beat Inter up not even by struggling ,but end with numerous goals. Inter is not even strong to challenge team like Real Madrid then talk much of Manchester City.

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Quote from: uswa56 on May 25, 2023, 02:47:28 AM

Pep Guardiola's coaching record is quite impressive, in the last 14 seasons he was able to bring his team to 11th place in the domestic league with 3 teams in different leagues, Barcelona, Bayern and Man City, this is truly an extraordinary achievement.
and as a whole Man City's performance continues to grow every season with continuous improvements bringing them to the UCL final this season and are highly favored to become champions, indeed all of this cannot be separated from Pep Guardiola's great contribution.

This season Man City's target is a treble winner, they have won the Premier League, their FA and UCL will play in the final so it is very likely that they will fulfill this target.

Hmm ... Barcelona with the golden generation of the Spanish national team (but at the same time Mourinho knocked out Guardiola from La Liga), Bayern that took titles one after another before him and continued to do so after him, City is a cheating club with unlimited financial possibilities Roll Eyes

Guardiola is good, but not enough to put him much above even the average level. He may be higher, but he hasn't proven anything yet.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on May 25, 2023, 09:11:58 AM

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Guardiola will only be successful in this Champions League final if he does not try anything that is really funny. I remember the last time that he went to Champions League final against Chelsea, he did something not expected by anyone. He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was. Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

Because at that time Manchester City don't have a real striker, Aguero wasn't prime anymore, so De Bruyne play as false nine player. But Manchester City now have Haaland, I don't think Pep will use that strategy in this final match because it's horrible to not maximizing Haaland power, this is final match where goal scorer is very needed. Penalty stage is really not good for Manchester City, this will increase Inter to beat them.

You are right, at that time Manchester City applied more false nine strategies because they lacked or didn't even have a pure striker that could be applied up front. Unlike this season, they have a pure striker in Erling Haaland and even they have a very good striker at the moment. I don't think Pep Guardiola will be careless with a trial strategy or anything like that. I'm sure he will come out with his best squad and also with his best strategy too. Actually, during the semi-finals he also made something surprising in the first leg. And they did because they had the second leg, and it proved they could do well and even beat Real Madrid by a landslide.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 25, 2023, 03:30:25 AM

Guardiola will only be successful in this Champions League final if he does not try anything that is really funny. I remember the last time that he went to Champions League final against Chelsea, he did something not expected by anyone. He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was. Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

Because at that time Manchester City don't have a real striker, Aguero wasn't prime anymore, so De Bruyne play as false nine player. But Manchester City now have Haaland, I don't think Pep will use that strategy in this final match because it's horrible to not maximizing Haaland power, this is final match where goal scorer is very needed. Penalty stage is really not good for Manchester City, this will increase Inter to beat them.

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Am sure Manchester city won’t disappoint us, most of us have hope in them that they are going to win the champions league, if we can check the two clubs playing strategy, you will see that Manchester city is far better than inter Milan, so inter Milan shouldn’t be a problem for Manchester city.

City are the favorites and i'm pretty sure they'll win, but it isn't going to be a walk in the park for them, Inter Milan is definitely going to cause them some problems in the way they know how to; they are not going to come into that game with a desire to hold possession or go for the high press like Manchester City, they'll park the bus, sit very deep and try to soak the pressure that City will bring to them. The thing is, if City manages to get an early goal, everything changes, because Inter wouldn't know if they should remain defensive, or if they should try and get an equalizer, it is definitely going to be a fascinating game of football.

Of course, when a goal occurs, their playing style will change and they will not use the initial strategy. Because of course, if they still apply the initial strategy, it won't make them have a chance to be able to reply to the goal. But regardless of whatever strategy they will use, I am also very confident that Manchester City will still win the Champions League trophy this time.

Because after all, when the semifinal between Real Madrid against Manchester City was played, we also believed that if Real Madrid or Manchester City qualified for the final, then that team would win the title. So, because at this moment Manchester City is the team that has qualified for the final, I am still confident that Manchester City will win in the final match later, because the quality of Manchester City is clearly better than Inter.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 25, 2023, 03:30:25 AM

He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was.

Yeah I still recall that and I am not actually a City fan but given the opponents- Chelsea, I was actually rooting for City to win this one. It was a very bad move from Guardiola. I am still not sure why he still made that choice but that's long gone now.

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Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

I don't think he will actually make the same mistake twice especially when it's about the trophy that a big club like City hasn't win before. It is very important for them and I think Guardiola will think about not making mistakes like last time. Kevin and Haaland are crucial players, there is no way Guardiola is gonna make them sit out. I just hope Guardiola doesn't tries to oversmart and drops this chance for the second time (!).

And btw it's not ~~Kelvin~~ , its Kevin.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 25, 2023, 03:30:25 AM

Guardiola will only be successful in this Champions League final if he does not try anything that is really funny. I remember the last time that he went to Champions League final against Chelsea, he did something not expected by anyone.

Pep is always doing many experiments. All of city fans are not hoping him to repeat the same thing like when it faces chelsea.
many city fans were blaming chelsea fans at that time to lose against chelsea easily but the situation was changing a lot when the games was starting.
Will pep repeat the same mistake again?

Quote from: Docnaster on May 25, 2023, 03:30:25 AM

He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was. Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

Let's see manchester city to cry again if pep will be doing another experiment again. Doing experiment in the final was the stupidest thing that can be done by a coach. In my opinion that if pep will not be repeating the same mistake again.
If he will be doing it again and believe me there will be bunch of petitions to force him leave from the club. All of city fans are counting on him right now and his squads.
Doing the same stupid thing will make him lose a chance to be best manager for this season.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on May 25, 2023, 06:10:43 AM

Manchester City's defeat against Chelsea was mainly due to tactical weakness. Guardiola wanted to apply the same strategy in a completely new way. But the players can't adapt themselves to the strategy. As a result, they were defeated. Hope Guardiola doesn't make any tactical mistakes against Inter Milan. If Manchester City don't change their strategy and play the same strategy against Inter Milan, I think they will win. Manchester City is much more organized and stronger this season than in previous seasons. I expect Manchester City to win.

But for me if Manchester city uses the same strategy I think Inter milan will beat them.
Surely Simone Inzaghi can find out the strategy used by Pep Guardiola and can find loopholes from the strategy that has been planned.
If Manchester city wants to win the champions league I think Pep Guardiola has to adopt a new strategy.
Maybe most people currently favor Manchester city but I personally support Inter milan to be able to win the champions league title.

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Quote from: shogun47 on May 25, 2023, 05:55:43 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on May 25, 2023, 03:30:25 AM

Guardiola will only be successful in this Champions League final if he does not try anything that is really funny. I remember the last time that he went to Champions League final against Chelsea, he did something not expected by anyone. He played a Champions League final withot a striker and with a defensive midfielder we all know how the end was. Who knows if he will not gamble with this one and bench either Haaland or Kelvin...lolz

No he is not going to try any new experiments in that final! He will stick to his strongest line-up and I don't exactly remember how it was in the Champions League final against Chelsea. Was his rotation due to any injuries or minor fitness issues or was it purely because he wanted to try something new? I remember that he did rotate, but I am not sure what the reason was. If it was only experimental, then it obviously wasn't very good timing to try out something new. Cheesy

Manchester City's defeat against Chelsea was mainly due to tactical weakness. Guardiola wanted to apply the same strategy in a completely new way. But the players can't adapt themselves to the strategy. As a result, they were defeated. Hope Guardiola doesn't make any tactical mistakes against Inter Milan. If Manchester City don't change their strategy and play the same strategy against Inter Milan, I think they will win. Manchester City is much more organized and stronger this season than in previous seasons. I expect Manchester City to win.

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Quote from: Coyster on May 25, 2023, 03:29:42 AM

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Am sure Manchester city won’t disappoint us, most of us have hope in them that they are going to win the champions league, if we can check the two clubs playing strategy, you will see that Manchester city is far better than inter Milan, so inter Milan shouldn’t be a problem for Manchester city.

City are the favorites and i'm pretty sure they'll win, but it isn't going to be a walk in the park for them, Inter Milan is definitely going to cause them some problems in the way they know how to; they are not going to come into that game with a desire to hold possession or go for the high press like Manchester City, they'll park the bus, sit very deep and try to soak the pressure that City will bring to them. The thing is, if City manages to get an early goal, everything changes, because Inter wouldn't know if they should remain defensive, or if they should try and get an equalizer, it is definitely going to be a fascinating game of football.

Most people favor Manchester city and I also bet on the match later because I feel confident about that, I bet on Manchester City to win, but besides that I also don't want to underestimate Intermilan, so far Inter Milan have fought hard to qualify for the final, of course they didn't. will just give in let alone give victory to Manchester City, I'm sure Intermilan won't appear to attack but they will play defensively and expect counterattacks to score goals.

Guardiola seems to have a good strategy and tactics to face Inter Milan in the final, especially in yesterday's semifinals Haaland couldn't score at all against Madrid because Madrid's defense was quite strong, I hope Haaland can score goals as freely as he scored against clubs in the EPL.

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