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Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 05:17:20 AM

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Hmm for me the chances of Barcelona advancing to the knockout stage now are slim to none to be honest. If i am not mistaken then Barcelona would need to win both of their matches against Pilzen and Bayern Munich while Inter is not allowed to get more than 3 points out of the next two games and given the fact that Inter is also still playing against Pilzen. Also Inter is playing at home against Pilzen which is another advantage for them, so i heavily doubt that Inter will not win that game and if they do that then there is nothing that Barcelona can do anymore to overtake them as they have lost the direct comparison with Inter.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 13, 2022, 02:48:24 PM

Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 14, 2022, 03:08:13 AM

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Barcelona has do some mistakes because they failed to win from Inter twice so this makes their opportunity to qualifying will be very slim and hoping Viktoria Plzen can beat Inter Milan is just like a mission impossible especially at Inter Milan home ground so it's their own fault why Barcelona cannot win in the last 3 matches in this competition and now let's be realistic that Barcelona has been failed to displayed impressive performance and they have to play at Europa League two times in a row and so far this is also their poor achievement and apparently playing well at their domestic league won't guarantee them to get best results on champion league

I also think that Barcelona will hardly continue in the Champions League. They should go to the Europa League and maybe have better luck.
This season, it seems that some of the big clubs, will drop to the Europa League, we have seen some surprises. And now that there are only 2 games left, it is starting to see who is in the best position to continue.

The chance for barcelona go to the europa league is far greater compared with the chance for barcelona goes to the knock out round. I meant it must have faced bayern munich which has become a very bad match for barcelona. bayern may need to make barcelona lose against it. It will make barcelona will be degrade to europa league. Im sure about this caused by inter is also trying so hard to win the remaining match as well. Im not sure if intermilan can win against bayern but once it can win against plzen. Barcelona will be end.
It must play in europa league. It may be very suitable for barcelona's level.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 14, 2022, 04:48:40 AM

Barcelona's chances of qualifying for the last 16 of the Champions League are already slim because Barcelona need two wins in the two remaining matches in the Champions League group. And the problem is that one of Barcelona's opponents in the two remaining matches is Bayern Munich, which is still famous for being very strong in the Champions League, this is what makes Barcelona's chances look so slim to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this season.

Meanwhile, Inter Milan only needs one more win to get a safe position and qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League, because if the points are the same, Barcelona also cannot be in second place in the Champions League group standings.

Barcelona's only hope is Inter Milan, while they play Viktoria Plzen at home for me, Inter Milan will indeed and will not miss this opportunity, so Barcelona's hopes are very slim, it is not possible to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League.
Precisely that hope will not be left alone by Inter Milan they will try their best with their victory and this will qualify as runners-up in group C.
And to be honest Barcelona still can't compete tightly in the Champions League at the end of what they hope is the Europa League.

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Quote from: Roman_Picisan on October 13, 2022, 07:00:08 PM

you are right, if Barca are right to risk their fate on inter this will make it difficult for inter to only need one win to destroy Barca's dreams and hopes to get through this group stage, Barca will be an outcast group in the Champions league, don't be too happy with a little hope.

Barcelona's chances of qualifying for the last 16 of the Champions League are already slim because Barcelona need two wins in the two remaining matches in the Champions League group. And the problem is that one of Barcelona's opponents in the two remaining matches is Bayern Munich, which is still famous for being very strong in the Champions League, this is what makes Barcelona's chances look so slim to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League this season.

Meanwhile, Inter Milan only needs one more win to get a safe position and qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League, because if the points are the same, Barcelona also cannot be in second place in the Champions League group standings.

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Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club.

The result of Inter vs Plzen should be the winning of Inter Milan. Very very small chance of Inter getting a loss or draw. We can see on the table that Plzen never won and got many conceded goals.
Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, the winning opportunity may be 50:50. But considering the current performance of Barcelona, I am pessimistic that Barcelona can win this match, especially if Bayern Munich play with all their key players. The very possible result is a draw, I guess the final score maybe 2-2.

So, expecting Barcelona to qualify for the next stage, seems hard to happen. Even Xavi already stated that the current Barcelona squad looks not suitable to compete in UCL. Xavi realizes that the current Barcelona squad isn't strong enough for international competition. They seem to focus on La Liga competition since it is more realistic to achive.

Barcelona's chances of qualifying from the group stage are very slim. as we know, that Inter has a greater chance of advancing to the next round with Bayern Munich.
Inter-Plzen match, as we are aware, it is very difficult for Vitoria Plzen to match Inter in this match, let alone to win the fight. the only way for Barcelona is to win the match against Bayern at Camp Nou, but as you can predict the chances of winning are probably 50:50. however, it looks like we have to first look at the starting eleven of the two teams.
but as you said, the hope for Barcelona to qualify for the next phase seems very difficult to happen. except, Inter stumbled in their last two matches.
but it seems that will not happen, enough for Inter to hold a draw against Bayern later.

Bayern Munich is certain to qualify for the next round. Inter Milan and Barcelona are now fighting for second place in the table. Barcelona is 3 points behind Inter Milan. Barcelona must win the next two matches. Barcelona has no other option. And Inter Milan is guaranteed to qualify for the next round if they win against Plzen and share the points with Munich. Barcelona will play against Bayern Munich at Camp Nou. I would say if Barcelona's defenders can perform well in this match then Barcelona can get 3 points against Munich. However, it is very difficult to predict these matches.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 13, 2022, 06:59:17 PM

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Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club.

The result of Inter vs Plzen should be the winning of Inter Milan. Very very small chance of Inter getting a loss or draw. We can see on the table that Plzen never won and got many conceded goals.

Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, the winning opportunity may be 50:50. But considering the current performance of Barcelona, I am pessimistic that Barcelona can win this match, especially if Bayern Munich play with all their key players. The very possible result is a draw, I guess the final score maybe 2-2.

So, expecting Barcelona to qualify for the next stage, seems hard to happen. Even Xavi already stated that the current Barcelona squad looks not suitable to compete in UCL. Xavi realizes that the current Barcelona squad isn't strong enough for international competition. They seem to focus on La Liga competition since it is more realistic to achive.

Barcelona's chances of qualifying from the group stage are very slim. as we know, that Inter has a greater chance of advancing to the next round with Bayern Munich.
Inter-Plzen match, as we are aware, it is very difficult for Vitoria Plzen to match Inter in this match, let alone to win the fight. the only way for Barcelona is to win the match against Bayern at Camp Nou, but as you can predict the chances of winning are probably 50:50. however, it looks like we have to first look at the starting eleven of the two teams.

but as you said, the hope for Barcelona to qualify for the next phase seems very difficult to happen. except, Inter stumbled in their last two matches.
but it seems that will not happen, enough for Inter to hold a draw against Bayern later.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 14, 2022, 03:08:13 AM

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Barcelona has do some mistakes because they failed to win from Inter twice so this makes their opportunity to qualifying will be very slim and hoping Viktoria Plzen can beat Inter Milan is just like a mission impossible especially at Inter Milan home ground so it's their own fault why Barcelona cannot win in the last 3 matches in this competition and now let's be realistic that Barcelona has been failed to displayed impressive performance and they have to play at Europa League two times in a row and so far this is also their poor achievement and apparently playing well at their domestic league won't guarantee them to get best results on champion league

I also think that Barcelona will hardly continue in the Champions League. They should go to the Europa League and maybe have better luck.
This season, it seems that some of the big clubs, will drop to the Europa League, we have seen some surprises. And now that there are only 2 games left, it is starting to see who is in the best position to continue.

From the end of last season till the beginning of this season I have always praised Barcelona coach he has been impressive even taking up the challenges of coaching Barcelona even when they were in financial crisis. We have seen him make very good resourceful use of the money at hand to get good players for the club even when the club is persuading some of the existing players to take pay cut he has done really well but I am not impressed by his display in the Champions League. It is difficult to believe that Barcelona is struggling to qualify in a group that has only Bayern Munich as a threat.

In the history of Champions League, there's no how Inter Milan could be placed above Barcelona. Barca should try their best and maybe pray that Plzen could win Inter Milan in Inter home, which is absolutely impossible.

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Quote from: bering on October 14, 2022, 01:27:07 AM

Barcelona has do some mistakes because they failed to win from Inter twice so this makes their opportunity to qualifying will be very slim and hoping Viktoria Plzen can beat Inter Milan is just like a mission impossible especially at Inter Milan home ground so it's their own fault why Barcelona cannot win in the last 3 matches in this competition and now let's be realistic that Barcelona has been failed to displayed impressive performance and they have to play at Europa League two times in a row and so far this is also their poor achievement and apparently playing well at their domestic league won't guarantee them to get best results on champion league

I also think that Barcelona will hardly continue in the Champions League. They should go to the Europa League and maybe have better luck.
This season, it seems that some of the big clubs, will drop to the Europa League, we have seen some surprises. And now that there are only 2 games left, it is starting to see who is in the best position to continue.

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Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

Barcelona chances of qualifying for the Round of 16 are indeed not completely closed, but Barcelona cannot determine their own destiny to go to the Round of 16. If Barcelona are to go into the last 16, Barcelona will have to beat Bayern Munich and Plzen while hoping for the magic of Inter to drop points against Bayern and Plzen.
This scenario is very difficult for Barcelona, if Inter only get 3 points from the remaining 2 matches while Barcelona manages to get 6 points, Inter are certain to be ahead of Barcelona and have the right to accompany Bayern Munich to go to the last 16 because Inter are superior to Barcelona head to head.

Barcelona has do some mistakes because they failed to win from Inter twice so this makes their opportunity to qualifying will be very slim and hoping Viktoria Plzen can beat Inter Milan is just like a mission impossible especially at Inter Milan home ground so it's their own fault why Barcelona cannot win in the last 3 matches in this competition and now let's be realistic that Barcelona has been failed to displayed impressive performance and they have to play at Europa League two times in a row and so far this is also their poor achievement and apparently playing well at their domestic league won't guarantee them to get best results on champion league

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Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, the winning opportunity may be 50:50. But considering the current performance of Barcelona, I am pessimistic that Barcelona can win this match, especially if Bayern Munich play with all their key players. The very possible result is a draw, I guess the final score maybe 2-2.

Not trying to portray Barcelona as a team to beat, but Bayern Munich this are utterly shit themselves, and their performance even in the Bundesliga is more than enough to buttress my point, so getting a win against Bayern for Barcelona shouldn't much of an uphill battle, because even despite losing the first leg, Barcelona were pretty much the better side, and Barcelona chances of qualifying doesn't solely depends on getting a win in their next two fixtures, but rather hoping Inter slips in both of their and that's also highly improbable.

Barcelona's chances are slim, they not only have to wipe out the remaining matches with a win, but also their rivals have to be unable to pick up points in their match. They also have to face an opponent who always makes it difficult for them every time they meet, Bayern Munich. I am pessimistic that Barcelona will be able to get away from this difficult period, and they must be willing to lose the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: borovichok on October 13, 2022, 06:06:23 PM

With the way things are going in the premier League I think is going to the wire to knows who will qualify for the champions League, excluding Manchester city who are obvious winners of the premier League or less something shocking then another team can lift the premier and deny them winning it for three consecutive years, arsenal qualifying for the champions League next season looks likely now but you never can tell when it comes to arsenal,you always expect them to disappoint, while Tottenham seems like a team that are not strong enough,the only advantage you can rate them with is they have an experience Conte, then Chelsea has risen back and they have the squad to compete, Manchester United I think will be a difficult one, in Liverpool case I don't see them qualifying or less others sleep.

Cut the crap, Manchester City are not winning the Premier League, they might be your favorite, but I don't see them emerging winner's this year already. Possibly they'll be there at the Champions League top four areas next season.
Arsenal seem to be in a better state than us to be last season. They have been good so far, I'd like if they end up as winner's of the Premier League.

For Chelsea, all I see Graham Potter is with his regular position with Brighton, fifth or sixth they can't go above that this season, I suggest they raise more of them game to displace Tottenham Hotspur. As per Tottenham Hotspur, Antonio Conte has been very ambitious, he's still has he's eyes on the league I still have a level of uncertainty lately bout him winning.

Liverpool hasn't been great so far, especially in the Premier League, but Klopp would be backed for the glory days he's had two to three or four years behind, but I hope he gets the right player's to turn the club around.
Manchester United ? They don't seem ready, cause all they do is play boring football, I don't believe in the players but the plans Erik Ten Hag has for Manchester United.

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if Barca are right to risk their fate on inter this will make it difficult for inter to only need one win to destroy Barca's dreams and hopes to get through this group stage, Barca will be an outcast group in the Champions league, don't be too happy with a little hope.

I will never try to believe if barcelona would able to win from bayern. Seeing from history if bayern is a counter team for barcelona. Bayern's style is playing counter attack which is always become the main problem for barcelona caused by it has weak defensive players. People are still try to believe with small chance barcelona can make it but remember that if plzen can be beaten easily by intermilan.
Barcelona has three points gap which is very difficult if barcelona was getting a draw, winning all of remaining matches is a must for barcelona or it will go to the europa league as predicted by so many speculators.

I guess, Barcelona has the capacity to win their remaining games, because their coach is well prepared to help the team to win this season title. Since Bayern Munich are still facing challenge in the area of midfield that is making their strikers not to flow well in this season, it will be difficult for them to stop Barcelona not to achieve victory from this game, because Robert Lewandowski is well organized to score goals that will make their fans happy.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 13, 2022, 05:53:56 PM

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Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

Barcelona chances of qualifying for the Round of 16 are indeed not completely closed, but Barcelona cannot determine their own destiny to go to the Round of 16. If Barcelona are to go into the last 16, Barcelona will have to beat Bayern Munich and Plzen while hoping for the magic of Inter to drop points against Bayern and Plzen.
This scenario is very difficult for Barcelona, if Inter only get 3 points from the remaining 2 matches while Barcelona manages to get 6 points, Inter are certain to be ahead of Barcelona and have the right to accompany Bayern Munich to go to the last 16 because Inter are superior to Barcelona head to head.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 13, 2022, 06:59:17 PM

Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, the winning opportunity may be 50:50. But considering the current performance of Barcelona, I am pessimistic that Barcelona can win this match, especially if Bayern Munich play with all their key players. The very possible result is a draw, I guess the final score maybe 2-2.

Not trying to portray Barcelona as a team to beat, but Bayern Munich this are utterly shit themselves, and their performance even in the Bundesliga is more than enough to buttress my point, so getting a win against Bayern for Barcelona shouldn't much of an uphill battle, because even despite losing the first leg, Barcelona were pretty much the better side, and Barcelona chances of qualifying doesn't solely depends on getting a win in their next two fixtures, but rather hoping Inter slips in both of their and that's also highly improbable.

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Quote from: Roman_Picisan on October 13, 2022, 07:00:08 PM

if Barca are right to risk their fate on inter this will make it difficult for inter to only need one win to destroy Barca's dreams and hopes to get through this group stage, Barca will be an outcast group in the Champions league, don't be too happy with a little hope.

I will never try to believe if barcelona would able to win from bayern. Seeing from history if bayern is a counter team for barcelona. Bayern's style is playing counter attack which is always become the main problem for barcelona caused by it has weak defensive players. People are still try to believe with small chance barcelona can make it but remember that if plzen can be beaten easily by intermilan.
Barcelona has three points gap which is very difficult if barcelona was getting a draw, winning all of remaining matches is a must for barcelona or it will go to the europa league as predicted by so many speculators.

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Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

Although Barcelona's chances are very small to qualify from the group stage, but as long as Barcelona can give their best anything is possible.
So Barcelona's job is just to make sure to win the game in the remaining two games, especially in the next game if Barcelona is able to beat Bayern,
it will open up opportunities for Barcelona. But if it turns out that Barcelona again failed to win against Bayern, it looks like Barcelona must accept
playing in the Europa League. In fact, with Lewandowski joining I actually hope that Barcelona can perform better this season in the Champions League.
But unexpectedly Inter's performance was quite good, it became difficult for Barcelona. It's a risk to be in a group with 3 good teams, there must be
one team that is eliminated this is the interesting competition that brings together many strong teams, so only for the best team that has the right
to advance to the next round.

you are right, if Barca are right to risk their fate on inter this will make it difficult for inter to only need one win to destroy Barca's dreams and hopes to get through this group stage, Barca will be an outcast group in the Champions league, don't be too happy with a little hope.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 13, 2022, 05:53:56 PM

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club.

The result of Inter vs Plzen should be the winning of Inter Milan. Very very small chance of Inter getting a loss or draw. We can see on the table that Plzen never won and got many conceded goals.

Barcelona vs Bayern Munich, the winning opportunity may be 50:50. But considering the current performance of Barcelona, I am pessimistic that Barcelona can win this match, especially if Bayern Munich play with all their key players. The very possible result is a draw, I guess the final score maybe 2-2.

So, expecting Barcelona to qualify for the next stage, seems hard to happen. Even Xavi already stated that the current Barcelona squad looks not suitable to compete in UCL. Xavi realizes that the current Barcelona squad isn't strong enough for international competition. They seem to focus on La Liga competition since it is more realistic to achive.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 13, 2022, 05:53:56 PM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 13, 2022, 02:48:24 PM

Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

Although Barcelona's chances are very small to qualify from the group stage, but as long as Barcelona can give their best anything is possible.
So Barcelona's job is just to make sure to win the game in the remaining two games, especially in the next game if Barcelona is able to beat Bayern,
it will open up opportunities for Barcelona. But if it turns out that Barcelona again failed to win against Bayern, it looks like Barcelona must accept
playing in the Europa League. In fact, with Lewandowski joining I actually hope that Barcelona can perform better this season in the Champions League.
But unexpectedly Inter's performance was quite good, it became difficult for Barcelona. It's a risk to be in a group with 3 good teams, there must be
one team that is eliminated this is the interesting competition that brings together many strong teams, so only for the best team that has the right
to advance to the next round.

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With the way things are going in the premier League I think is going to the wire to knows who will qualify for the champions League, excluding Manchester city who are obvious winners of the premier League or less something shocking then another team can lift the premier and deny them winning it for three consecutive years, arsenal qualifying for the champions League next season looks likely now but you never can tell when it comes to arsenal,you always expect them to disappoint, while Tottenham seems like a team that are not strong enough,the only advantage you can rate them with is they have an experience Conte, then Chelsea has risen back and they have the squad to compete, Manchester United I think will be a difficult one, in Liverpool case I don't see them qualifying or less others sleep.

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