UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 738.

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Quote from: skarais on October 14, 2022, 12:14:29 PM

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Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.

Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.

It's hard to believe if Barcelona finally failed to qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season, the expectations for them were too high but unfortunately the challenges they faced from the group stage were too strong. I don't like them failing, but what can I do if that is the result of their performance this season.

But of course it's not over yet considering there are two decisive matches for Inter and Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Barcelona may be able to beat Plzen, but of course it is difficult to beat Bayern Munich. But anything can happen, it wouldn't be a coincidence if Barcelona really fought for a place.

Indeed it's a fact they will fail if Inter Milan win the match against Viktoria Plzen there is no denying that Barcelona's expectations are not too met despite having brought in several players including Lewandowski and Rafinda as strikers who are always proud of it but they are more difficult in the Champions League and in the end will be defeated too.

There are other rumors that I know but this is not necessarily true, if Xavi fails to win the match in El Clasico and Champions League with Bayern Munich then Xavi will be threatened as his coach, but in my opinion it is not sure to happen because in LaLiga Xavi has proven that Barcelona are at their best it's just that in the Champions League the less fortunate.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on October 14, 2022, 12:07:29 PM

Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.

Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.

It's hard to believe if Barcelona finally failed to qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season, the expectations for them were too high but unfortunately the challenges they faced from the group stage were too strong. I don't like them failing, but what can I do if that is the result of their performance this season.

But of course it's not over yet considering there are two decisive matches for Inter and Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Barcelona may be able to beat Plzen, but of course it is difficult to beat Bayern Munich. But anything can happen, it wouldn't be a coincidence if Barcelona really fought for a place.

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Quote from: zuzie on October 14, 2022, 08:38:53 AM

There is no point in discussing Barcelona because I am sure they will be eliminated Inter Milan and Bayern Munich will go to the next stage
The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.

Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.

Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.

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Liverpool mortified rangers in the second leg of the group stage game and it's wasn't easy for the rangers as they have failed to record a winning throughout their UEFEA games. Big win for Jurgen Klopp's and humiliation for Giovanni van Bronckhorst, the two managers have their different playing pattern but let's say it was rather unfortunate for the Gers having a big defeats in the game. One can't compare liverpool to rangers interms of football, there's a big difference between these two clubs. Rangers needs to work on their players and formation in other to get their self prepare for the big game ahead.

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Quote from: D-law on October 14, 2022, 10:23:36 AM

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In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition

Barcelona have been able to hold up ad even win there last El-classico with Real Madrid but that was in the La liga. I won't ay there performance is due to the fact that, they are way ahead of most of there competitions except for Real Madrid but, its mostly with the fact that, they see Real Madrid for a rivalry and as such, games with Real Madrid is always that personal.
The unfortunate situation for them is, this isn't Laliga, its the UCL and that's some league Real Madrid don't play around with. They are so experienced in the game and can always turn there worst day into history.
It would mean something if Barcelona could go personal on this but, its not going to he easy for sure. The best they might come up with would he a draw.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 14, 2022, 10:18:29 AM

Quote from: keyscore44 on October 14, 2022, 09:13:38 AM

In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition

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Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

This is the last chance for Barcelona to decide if they will still be in the Champions league. It is not that barcelona is not capable of winning, I think barcelona is not putting much seriousness to win their games but this time around Barcelona don't have option to putting their best to win. If you compare what bayern and Inter are playing in their main league to barcelona I think barcelona is doing more better, the seriousness they put in the Spanish league is more to Champions League.

In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The Champions League is still very tough for them unlike in La Liga and it really feels like it. What makes it more difficult for them is that they have to lose several key players which causes many gaps for the opposing team to take advantage of. It is undeniable when their defense becomes weak because they are not strengthened by their main players. Also their midfield is not very creative so that gap is part of their weakness. The depth of their squad has not been evenly distributed so that's why. Xavi should be able to realize this in order to improve their overall strength.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on October 14, 2022, 09:13:38 AM

In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on October 14, 2022, 07:46:20 AM

Quote from: X-ray on October 13, 2022, 06:53:56 PM

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

This is the last chance for Barcelona to decide if they will still be in the Champions league. It is not that barcelona is not capable of winning, I think barcelona is not putting much seriousness to win their games but this time around Barcelona don't have option to putting their best to win. If you compare what bayern and Inter are playing in their main league to barcelona I think barcelona is doing more better, the seriousness they put in the Spanish league is more to Champions League.

In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

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Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 06:17:20 AM

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Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

It is now very difficult for Barcelona to go to the next round. Their chances of progressing to the next round now depend on the other teams in the group. However, no one expected such a performance from Barcelona, that too at the Camp Nou. They will face financial problems especially if they fail to go to the next round of the Champions League.

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Quote from: zaki12 on October 14, 2022, 08:17:00 AM

Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 06:17:20 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 13, 2022, 03:48:24 PM

Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Yes, Barcelona only hopes for a miracle, Inter lose to Viktoria Plzen, and Barcelona must win against Munich. I must also admit that the loss of Kounde and Araujo greatly affected the coordination at the back, because they both played very solidly, Barcelona had to be calmer every time they got a chance, they were often impatient. I hope there's still hope of getting away, even if it's small.

It is difficult to realize all of that, because they have to feel that their fate is now in the hands of other teams. If only they had won against Inter Milan yesterday, of course the situation would be better than it is now. I don't believe that Inter Milan will lose against Viktoria Plzen, and it's tough for Barcelona to win against Bayern Munich. They have a disappointing record when they meet the Bundesliga giants.

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Quote from: zaki12 on October 14, 2022, 08:17:00 AM

Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 06:17:20 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 13, 2022, 03:48:24 PM

Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Yes, Barcelona only hopes for a miracle, Inter lose to Viktoria Plzen, and Barcelona must win against Munich. I must also admit that the loss of Kounde and Araujo greatly affected the coordination at the back, because they both played very solidly, Barcelona had to be calmer every time they got a chance, they were often impatient. I hope there's still hope of getting away, even if it's small.

There is no point in discussing Barcelona because I am sure they will be eliminated Inter Milan and Bayern Munich will go to the next stage
The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.

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Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 06:17:20 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 13, 2022, 03:48:24 PM

Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.

Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Yes, Barcelona only hopes for a miracle, Inter lose to Viktoria Plzen, and Barcelona must win against Munich. I must also admit that the loss of Kounde and Araujo greatly affected the coordination at the back, because they both played very solidly, Barcelona had to be calmer every time they got a chance, they were often impatient. I hope there's still hope of getting away, even if it's small.

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Barcelona is in a very difficult position. because the chances of qualifying from the group stage are slim. but the opportunity is still there. But Barcelona must continue to win in the next matches against Bayern and viktoria plzen. winning against Viktoria is not a difficult thing. but against Bayern is the most difficult thing. but if it turns out that Inter continues to win in the next two matches then Barcelona must be willing to not qualify.

so barcelona have to hope that inter will lose in the last two games. and barcelona must win in the last two games.

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Quote from: rozak on October 14, 2022, 07:08:23 AM

that's quite reasonable. let's just say the match between Inter and Barca against Muchen is a defeat for both. but both will win against Plzen, which means there will be no change in the standings. which would indicate that Barca will not qualify.

to qualify, Barca must fight hard. as well as hope that Plzen will beat Inter. even with a draw, Inter has a better chance of qualifying.

This is even certain to happen because indeed with things like what we see now with Barcelona's current points acquisition and facing Bayern even though it's playing at Camp Nou it still doesn't change anything and doesn't change that Bayern are still very strong.
I think it will be the end again and they will have to settle for the Europa League for the second time.
Unfortunately, their squad looks convincing but a few mistakes and some internal problems with injured players changed everything for Barcelona.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 13, 2022, 06:53:56 PM

Even the chance is small for barcelona but we don't know what's gonna be the result from the barcelona against bayern. This must become a match that will determine the future for this club. Inter is having more points compared with barcelona but it seems like the match against bayern is a key to determine the future for this club. Im sure that if juventus will be going out from this competition but barcelona has a few percents to make it real. There are so many predictions about barcelona goes to the europa league as well.

This is the last chance for Barcelona to decide if they will still be in the Champions league. It is not that barcelona is not capable of winning, I think barcelona is not putting much seriousness to win their games but this time around Barcelona don't have option to putting their best to win. If you compare what bayern and Inter are playing in their main league to barcelona I think barcelona is doing more better, the seriousness they put in the Spanish league is more to Champions League.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on October 14, 2022, 06:38:59 AM

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Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Hmm for me the chances of Barcelona advancing to the knockout stage now are slim to none to be honest. If i am not mistaken then Barcelona would need to win both of their matches against Pilzen and Bayern Munich while Inter is not allowed to get more than 3 points out of the next two games and given the fact that Inter is also still playing against Pilzen. Also Inter is playing at home against Pilzen which is another advantage for them, so i heavily doubt that Inter will not win that game and if they do that then there is nothing that Barcelona can do anymore to overtake them as they have lost the direct comparison with Inter.

Indeed football always gives unexpected surprises, but now we have to be realistic with what they will face in the future. Inter Milan is very likely to win 3 points, but I doubt Barcelona will get full points from 2 games, especially against Bayern Munich. The draw in yesterday's match made the situation even more difficult for Barcelona, and it looks like we will see them in the Europa League.

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Quote from: hahay on October 14, 2022, 06:54:48 AM

Quote from: Jackl87 on October 14, 2022, 06:38:59 AM

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Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Hmm for me the chances of Barcelona advancing to the knockout stage now are slim to none to be honest. If i am not mistaken then Barcelona would need to win both of their matches against Pilzen and Bayern Munich while Inter is not allowed to get more than 3 points out of the next two games and given the fact that Inter is also still playing against Pilzen. Also Inter is playing at home against Pilzen which is another advantage for them, so i heavily doubt that Inter will not win that game and if they do that then there is nothing that Barcelona can do anymore to overtake them as they have lost the direct comparison with Inter.

There are still two matches left, but Inter and Barcelona will only play against Bayern Munich and Plzen. That way we will assume that Inter and Barcelona only have a chance to win against Plzen, so in the end Barcelona have no chance to replace Inter in second place because against Bayern Munich they will not win and the best result is a draw. So yes, their current standings can be assumed to be the final position because their position will not change until the end.

that's quite reasonable. let's just say the match between Inter and Barca against Muchen is a defeat for both. but both will win against Plzen, which means there will be no change in the standings. which would indicate that Barca will not qualify.

to qualify, Barca must fight hard. as well as hope that Plzen will beat Inter. even with a draw, Inter has a better chance of qualifying.

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Quote from: hahay on October 14, 2022, 06:54:48 AM

Quote from: Jackl87 on October 14, 2022, 06:38:59 AM

Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 06:17:20 AM

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Hmm for me the chances of Barcelona advancing to the knockout stage now are slim to none to be honest. If i am not mistaken then Barcelona would need to win both of their matches against Pilzen and Bayern Munich while Inter is not allowed to get more than 3 points out of the next two games and given the fact that Inter is also still playing against Pilzen. Also Inter is playing at home against Pilzen which is another advantage for them, so i heavily doubt that Inter will not win that game and if they do that then there is nothing that Barcelona can do anymore to overtake them as they have lost the direct comparison with Inter.

There are still two matches left, but Inter and Barcelona will only play against Bayern Munich and Plzen. That way we will assume that Inter and Barcelona only have a chance to win against Plzen, so in the end Barcelona have no chance to replace Inter in second place because against Bayern Munich they will not win and the best result is a draw. So yes, their current standings can be assumed to be the final position because their position will not change until the end.

I think the chances for Barcelona to qualify for the round of 16 are very small because it depends on the match played by Inter Milan. In the next Champions League match, Inter Milan will play against Viktoria Plzen and most likely this will be an easy win for Inter Milan because Inter Milan will play at home, and we all know that Inter Milan has a level far above Viktoria Plzen. In football, surprises often happen, but if we look at the situation in Group C, I think the most likely thing for Barcelona is to play in the Europa League.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on October 14, 2022, 06:38:59 AM

Quote from: Polkeins on October 14, 2022, 06:17:20 AM

Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.

Hmm for me the chances of Barcelona advancing to the knockout stage now are slim to none to be honest. If i am not mistaken then Barcelona would need to win both of their matches against Pilzen and Bayern Munich while Inter is not allowed to get more than 3 points out of the next two games and given the fact that Inter is also still playing against Pilzen. Also Inter is playing at home against Pilzen which is another advantage for them, so i heavily doubt that Inter will not win that game and if they do that then there is nothing that Barcelona can do anymore to overtake them as they have lost the direct comparison with Inter.

There are still two matches left, but Inter and Barcelona will only play against Bayern Munich and Plzen. That way we will assume that Inter and Barcelona only have a chance to win against Plzen, so in the end Barcelona have no chance to replace Inter in second place because against Bayern Munich they will not win and the best result is a draw. So yes, their current standings can be assumed to be the final position because their position will not change until the end.

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