Topic: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 737. (Read 92690 times)
I think it will also be quite difficult for Barcelona to qualify. I don't know exactly what the criteria are, do they look at goal difference or mutual results? Mutual result is a lost cause anyway. Barcelona could certainly beat Bayern Munich at home, but Inter Milan will play the next round at home against Viktoria Pilzen, who have lost everything so far. Then Inter Milan should not win, and Barcelona should win at home against Bayern Munich. But let's be realistic, what are the chances that Inter Milan won't beat Pilzen at home? I think 5%
Barcelona will still bounces back to top the group this season and qualify for the next round, as you rightly said, this group stage a the knockout stage, and most clubs will find it difficult to qualify for the next stage. But am sure Baca will be among the tea that will qualify.
You're kidding, Even if the chance is still there but this is very difficult and likely impossible to do unless they can win in their last 2 matches and Inter can't win even once and the problem is Inter are clearly superior to Plzen although indeed for Bayern it is clear they still have a chance but Plzen here is the weakest opponent and Barcelona or Inter can win in my opinion. 
There is no point in discussing Barcelona because I am sure they will be eliminated Inter Milan and Bayern Munich will go to the next stage
The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.
Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.
Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.
Yes they did a lot of signing but until the coach harmonizes all of them to create a perfect harmony,a perfect team it was expected for them that they would not be playing finals in the Champions League but I also did not expect them to perform this bad since already in the group stages,that leaves a lot to think.
They will now have all the time in the world as in the Europa League where they will go they are of better quality than most other teams competing there so I expect to see a perfect Barcelona in this competition and why not the winner of it.
There is no point in discussing Barcelona because I am sure they will be eliminated Inter Milan and Bayern Munich will go to the next stage
The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.
Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.
Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.
Barca and Juventus are basically out of the cup.
Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.
Well, Barcelona still has a chance of getting out of the group. Now, however, not everything depends on Barcelona and we have to rely on Inter, but theoretically Inter should not lose, and Barcelona will try to win. Therefore, leaving the group from the 2nd place is still quite real.Barcelona will probably go in Europa League, while Juventus if they continue on this path they go out of the Euro cups competently.
It means Barcelona needs to beat Bayern and Plzen, which will make them 10 points too, I don't remember if it is home/away scoring calculation between teams or is it goals scored/conceded calculation in UCL, but in both cases it is quite unlikely that Barcelona will go up, doubt that.
Everyone are saying how Barcelona is this and that, how they are not competitive enough, how they are supposed to qualify with Bayern Munich to the next round, forgetting that this group is the group of death, it's the most difficult group among all the group, we are just talking as if inter Milan doesn't deserve to play in this next round, or that inter Milan are a small team like Victoria Plzen, for goodness sake inter Milan are the giant of Italian league right now and Barcelona are not the Barcelona of old that has Messi,neymar,Suarez,iniesta so they are in the level in reality with inter Milan right now and is only one that can qualify for the next round.
ATM doesn't have a chance in Champions League even if they could move beyond the group stage. Better to go for Europa League, so they could stand a chance to win the title.
3 Laliga teams are likely to fail to qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season and they include Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and Sevilla. I really didn't expect it to happen to all three teams especially Barcelona and Atletico Madrid. Now only Real Madrid as defending champions have the chance to reach the last 16 in the Champions League. It's not funny, but it's surprising.So if the three teams above fail in the end then they will go to the Europa League for a other worth it competition, maybe.
Atletico Madrid are still the same. They had a huge problem on qualifying from their group last season as you know. They hardly managed to make it by the last group games. It looks like the same scenario might happen once again. But this time they might not be able to do the same. The remaining games are against Leverkusen (H) and Porto (A). They lost to Leverkusen by 2-0 before and they were able to beat Porto barely by scoring goals in the last minutes.
They are performing much worse in the Champions League compared to the La Liga. They need to win against Leverkusen next time and wait for Porto to lose points against Club Brugge in Belgium. In this case they can capture a big advantage. Otherwise they will have a more difficult task in the last games again.
ATM doesn't have a chance in Champions League even if they could move beyond the group stage. Better to go for Europa League, so they could stand a chance to win the title.They are performing much worse in the Champions League compared to the La Liga. They need to win against Leverkusen next time and wait for Porto to lose points against Club Brugge in Belgium. In this case they can capture a big advantage. Otherwise they will have a more difficult task in the last games again.
In La Liga they are trying to pick a CL spot, that's the best they can do although they can do better..
Yes of course although this is not a very important match for Manchester City but they also don't want to lose in this match. They will target a draw in my opinion, so will Borussia Dortmund. They will play it safe, that's the reason why I say it won't be an interesting match. But I also hope that my prediction is wrong, and they will continue to play hard with each other, so that the match will be more interesting than what I predicted.
Manchester City are very focused on the match against Liverpool rather than against Dortmund. I mean, the result of the Premier League match will be more important than thinking about the result of the Champions League against Dortmund. So because the match against Liverpool will be very tiring, rotation is needed to restore the condition of the players.Because Manchester City are now safe to qualify for the next round, then you may be right that the match is no longer interesting to look forward to. Manchester City only need to maintain their unbeaten run in that match, so it's safe to draw.
I think that it is quite early to talk about the Dortmund - Manchester City match already now. Because there are still around two weeks to go for that match. On the other hand, Manchester City are going to face Liverpool in less than two days. Hence there shouldn't be such thing as being tired for their Champions League match after leaving this one behind.
Considering this space in the Champions League, I expect Manchester City to completely focus on their Liverpool match. Guardiola even rested Haaland against Copenhagen just to make sure about him to be completely ready for the match. I saw some people thinking that he wouldn't be able to play as they didn't see him against Copenhagen. But there is no such thing as he isn't injured now. Guardiola did the right thing because he might have got injured which would be the last thing Guardiola would like to see.
Barcelona on the edge of the Champions League. The Blaugrana are in danger of being relegated to the Europa League. Actually Barcelona set a target to continue to advance in the Champions League, this is of course not without reason, they actually want to increase the club's income only from the Champions League. If they fail and enter the Europa League, they will certainly regret the loss of their huge revenue target.
I'm going to put aside the financial targets you talk about Barcelona, even if they want to get it then I don't think that's the main thing why they have to compete in the Champions League. Barcelona are a top team in Laliga, their target is the title but things have not gone well so far.The competitive of the teams in the group has made Barcelona only managed to get 1 point from 9 points contested in the last 3 matches. As a result, their chances of being in the last 16 are getting small which may have made me pessimistic about that. Barcelona certainly hasn't given up, they will fight regardless of their success or failure in the next 2 matches.
Atletico Madrid are still the same. They had a huge problem on qualifying from their group last season as you know. They hardly managed to make it by the last group games. It looks like the same scenario might happen once again. But this time they might not be able to do the same. The remaining games are against Leverkusen (H) and Porto (A). They lost to Leverkusen by 2-0 before and they were able to beat Porto barely by scoring goals in the last minutes.
They are performing much worse in the Champions League compared to the La Liga. They need to win against Leverkusen next time and wait for Porto to lose points against Club Brugge in Belgium. In this case they can capture a big advantage. Otherwise they will have a more difficult task in the last games again.
They are performing much worse in the Champions League compared to the La Liga. They need to win against Leverkusen next time and wait for Porto to lose points against Club Brugge in Belgium. In this case they can capture a big advantage. Otherwise they will have a more difficult task in the last games again.
Atletico Madrid is in a bad position really. They didnt win against Club Brugge and they had so many chances and this now causes really big problems for them. Porto with the win now has an amazing chance to qualify while Leverkusens form is really bad and their chances are very slim, i dont see them qualifying.
Yes of course although this is not a very important match for Manchester City but they also don't want to lose in this match. They will target a draw in my opinion, so will Borussia Dortmund. They will play it safe, that's the reason why I say it won't be an interesting match. But I also hope that my prediction is wrong, and they will continue to play hard with each other, so that the match will be more interesting than what I predicted.
Manchester City are very focused on the match against Liverpool rather than against Dortmund. I mean, the result of the Premier League match will be more important than thinking about the result of the Champions League against Dortmund. So because the match against Liverpool will be very tiring, rotation is needed to restore the condition of the players.Because Manchester City are now safe to qualify for the next round, then you may be right that the match is no longer interesting to look forward to. Manchester City only need to maintain their unbeaten run in that match, so it's safe to draw.
Borussia Dortmund vs Manchester City I think this will be a less interesting match, because Manchester City have confirmed that they will occupy a place in the knockout round. While Borussia Dortmund only needs to get 1 more point to qualify for the next phase. Manchester City will be more comfortable in this match and will not spend a lot of energy. I think it's time for Pep Guardiola to rotate his players and rest some of his players. Yes, he can do that to take advantage of this great opportunity in this match.
Of course, but I think about prestige. Manchester City do not want to be humiliated by Dortmund so they must avoid defeat as much as possible, and the same seems to be achieved by Dortmund at home. Manchester City will play it safe, but Dortmund must ensure points to qualify for Manchester City from Group G. Manchester City are also safe to rotate players including not playing Haaland, but I hope it is not a match that is taken lightly by Guardiola considering the fans want to watch a great match.Salzburg vs Chelsea might be more interesting, especially Milan also has the opportunity to get 3 points from Dinamo Zegreb who will play at his home. Group E matches are still interesting until the end, unless Milan lose to Dinamo Zegreb.
Indeed it's a fact they will fail if Inter Milan win the match against Viktoria Plzen there is no denying that Barcelona's expectations are not too met despite having brought in several players including Lewandowski and Rafinda as strikers who are always proud of it but they are more difficult in the Champions League and in the end will be defeated too.
Failure seems more likely for Barcelona if Inter win against Viktoria Plzen, but what happens if Barcelona miraculously win their remaining 2 games against Plzen and Bayern? The scenario might be Inter win against Plzen while they lose against Bayern. But I really admit that things will be very difficult now for Barcelona.There are other rumors that I know but this is not necessarily true, if Xavi fails to win the match in El Clasico and Champions League with Bayern Munich then Xavi will be threatened as his coach, but in my opinion it is not sure to happen because in LaLiga Xavi has proven that Barcelona are at their best it's just that in the Champions League the less fortunate.
It's just a rumour, nothing to believe because Xavi and his team still have a chance to win another title even if they fail in the Champions League.No matter how Barcelona plays, it's enough for Inter to beat Victoria and it's hard to wait for some kind of surprise here.
Back in the transfer campaign, I wrote that Barcelona are going all-in unreasonably - they are spending a huge amount of money being in debt, while risking remaining where they were: second place in La Liga and an "average" performance in the Champions League.
And now it turns out that Barcelona is not even capable of an “average” performance in the Champions League.
You've said it, of course and I wouldn't have many expectations now about Barcelona. It would be good to just enjoy it. But Barcelona made all those sacrifices to increase the chances, meaning there are no guarantees about success. I'm not betting on their success in the end, they still have weaknesses as a team without their best players. Back in the transfer campaign, I wrote that Barcelona are going all-in unreasonably - they are spending a huge amount of money being in debt, while risking remaining where they were: second place in La Liga and an "average" performance in the Champions League.
And now it turns out that Barcelona is not even capable of an “average” performance in the Champions League.
Atletico Madrid are still the same. They had a huge problem on qualifying from their group last season as you know. They hardly managed to make it by the last group games. It looks like the same scenario might happen once again. But this time they might not be able to do the same. The remaining games are against Leverkusen (H) and Porto (A). They lost to Leverkusen by 2-0 before and they were able to beat Porto barely by scoring goals in the last minutes.
They are performing much worse in the Champions League compared to the La Liga. They need to win against Leverkusen next time and wait for Porto to lose points against Club Brugge in Belgium. In this case they can capture a big advantage. Otherwise they will have a more difficult task in the last games again.
They are performing much worse in the Champions League compared to the La Liga. They need to win against Leverkusen next time and wait for Porto to lose points against Club Brugge in Belgium. In this case they can capture a big advantage. Otherwise they will have a more difficult task in the last games again.
Borussia Dortmund vs Manchester City I think this will be a less interesting match, because Manchester City have confirmed that they will occupy a place in the knockout round. While Borussia Dortmund only needs to get 1 more point to qualify for the next phase. Manchester City will be more comfortable in this match and will not spend a lot of energy. I think it's time for Pep Guardiola to rotate his players and rest some of his players. Yes, he can do that to take advantage of this great opportunity in this match.
Of course, but I think about prestige. Manchester City do not want to be humiliated by Dortmund so they must avoid defeat as much as possible, and the same seems to be achieved by Dortmund at home. Manchester City will play it safe, but Dortmund must ensure points to qualify for Manchester City from Group G. Manchester City are also safe to rotate players including not playing Haaland, but I hope it is not a match that is taken lightly by Guardiola considering the fans want to watch a great match.Salzburg vs Chelsea might be more interesting, especially Milan also has the opportunity to get 3 points from Dinamo Zegreb who will play at his home. Group E matches are still interesting until the end, unless Milan lose to Dinamo Zegreb.
Indeed, I also think that Barcelona's fate in the Champions League is bad. But they are doing great in Laliga. But Xavi has to prepare the team for the Champions League even though the chances are very low. They have to work hard for the next one. We want Barcelona to play the best in Champions League like La Liga.
The Champions League is the league with the highest caste and even higher than any league, including La Liga. Because in the Champions League all teams will give everything to get a win even though in their own domestic league they are not in a good position in the standings. But for the Champions League, all teams will try to perform as well as possible so that the team's big name is maintained and always shines, which means that the level of the Champions League is different from other league levels. 
It's hard to believe if Barcelona finally failed to qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season, the expectations for them were too high but unfortunately the challenges they faced from the group stage were too strong. I don't like them failing, but what can I do if that is the result of their performance this season.
But of course it's not over yet considering there are two decisive matches for Inter and Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Barcelona may be able to beat Plzen, but of course it is difficult to beat Bayern Munich. But anything can happen, it wouldn't be a coincidence if Barcelona really fought for a place.
But of course it's not over yet considering there are two decisive matches for Inter and Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Barcelona may be able to beat Plzen, but of course it is difficult to beat Bayern Munich. But anything can happen, it wouldn't be a coincidence if Barcelona really fought for a place.
No matter how Barcelona plays, it's enough for Inter to beat Victoria and it's hard to wait for some kind of surprise here.
Back in the transfer campaign, I wrote that Barcelona are going all-in unreasonably - they are spending a huge amount of money being in debt, while risking remaining where they were: second place in La Liga and an "average" performance in the Champions League.
And now it turns out that Barcelona is not even capable of an “average” performance in the Champions League.
Borussia Dortmund vs Manchester City I think this will be a less interesting match, because Manchester City have confirmed that they will occupy a place in the knockout round. While Borussia Dortmund only needs to get 1 more point to qualify for the next phase. Manchester City will be more comfortable in this match and will not spend a lot of energy. I think it's time for Pep Guardiola to rotate his players and rest some of his players. Yes, he can do that to take advantage of this great opportunity in this match.
There is no point in discussing Barcelona because I am sure they will be eliminated Inter Milan and Bayern Munich will go to the next stage
The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.
Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.The same thing as Juventus who ended up only collecting 3 points from 4 matches while Atletico Madrid and Milan still have a chance but they have to win in all matches
Many surprises in the Champions League this season several big teams were eliminated earlier.
Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.
Not really surprise with Barcelona have eliminated early because last season facing the same problem can't reach to knock out group after failure in the same group with Bayern Munich and Benfica success lead to next round. Again not lucky for Barcelona in this season have the same group with Bayern and Inter Milan, loss head to head from Inter have almost close chance to qualify on next round. Two weeks later match between Inter vs Victoria Plzen is another helped for Barcelona if Inter fail to win but Barcelona need to win from Bayern.
Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.
It's hard to believe if Barcelona finally failed to qualify for the next round in the Champions League this season, the expectations for them were too high but unfortunately the challenges they faced from the group stage were too strong. I don't like them failing, but what can I do if that is the result of their performance this season.Not easy hope at other games actually with Plzen have bad record in Champion League loss in four games, I think could focus on domestic league for Barcelona because can't talk more at champion league exactly in group stage.
But of course it's not over yet considering there are two decisive matches for Inter and Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Barcelona may be able to beat Plzen, but of course it is difficult to beat Bayern Munich. But anything can happen, it wouldn't be a coincidence if Barcelona really fought for a place.
There are other rumors that I know but this is not necessarily true, if Xavi fails to win the match in El Clasico and Champions League with Bayern Munich then Xavi will be threatened as his coach, but in my opinion it is not sure to happen because in LaLiga Xavi has proven that Barcelona are at their best it's just that in the Champions League the less fortunate.
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