UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 767.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on October 07, 2022, 07:35:40 PM

Even though Napoli have been consistent in the Champions League, which has won 3 consecutive wins. And also Napoli surprised many people who managed to beat strong teams like Ajax and Liverpool with a fairly large score. But that does not mean Napoli will be a candidate for the team that will win the Champions League trophy, because the journey in the Champions League is still far away. We can conclude that Napoli will become
a candidate for the Champions League trophy if it turns out that Napoli is able to advance to the semifinals. For now Napoli can qualify from the group stage alone is something extraordinary and must be given appreciation. Like you said it is possible that Napoli can surprise like Villarreal in the previous season, because in football surprises often happen. Therefore, for now, Napoli's main focus is to be able to continue to achieve positive
results and maintain their consistent performance. We will see how far Napoli will go in the Champions League competition.

For me personally, Napoli continues to be a mystery team for this season, despite leading in its championship and in its group in the Champions League. Undoubtedly, Napoli has some chances of winning the Champions League like all other contenders, and thanks to its bright performance in the eyes of many, these chances have increased quite a lot. Another question is that only three rounds of the group stage have passed and it is too early to draw far-reaching conclusions on this basis. Everyone should remember perfectly well that Napoli started the previous season brightly and led the league for quite a long time, and then was among the leaders, but still could not win either the Scudetto or the Europa League. Therefore, we need to see what will happen next and whether Napoli has enough depth of the squad to successfully advance in those tournaments in which the team takes part. As Lionel Messi put it recently, the Champions League is difficult to win and any mistake throws you out of the tournament.

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Bookmakers are constantly changing their minds about winning the Champions League. I just think we shouldn't flatten a team like Napoli. They are currently playing really well and have also given Ajax a beating with 1-6. And recently they also won 4-1 against Liverpool, those are decent results. Napoli is so good that they can also win away at Liverpool. Win the Champions League? Normally not but this team has a chance against anyone. And as usual, you also need some luck with the draw.

Yes napoli team is performing really well but i think the knock out stage is a different story its only two games and only the best ones will remain,they faced two teams who are not in a good form this season both ajax and liverpool have trouble this season, personally i don't see them beating bayern, psg,man city and real madrid in a knock out format

At least qualifying for the group stage is something very good.
As for the knockout, it can still be seen later because there are always some surprises that happen. I think like last season Villarreal was surprising and it is not impossible that this season there will also be some surprises.
What Napoli have to do is continue to be consistent with the current conditions so that will be very good for them.

Even though Napoli have been consistent in the Champions League, which has won 3 consecutive wins. And also Napoli surprised many people
who managed to beat strong teams like Ajax and Liverpool with a fairly large score. But that does not mean Napoli will be a candidate for the team
that will win the Champions League trophy, because the journey in the Champions League is still far away. We can conclude that Napoli will become
a candidate for the Champions League trophy if it turns out that Napoli is able to advance to the semifinals. For now Napoli can qualify from the group
stage alone is something extraordinary and must be given appreciation. Like you said it is possible that Napoli can surprise like Villarreal in
the previous season, because in football surprises often happen. Therefore, for now, Napoli's main focus is to be able to continue to achieve positive
results and maintain their consistent performance. We will see how far Napoli will go in the Champions League competition.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 05, 2022, 11:16:27 PM

Total voters are 57 where 35.1% chose ManCity to be Champions. I won't surprise because the performance is very well with 3 games and 3 winnings with 9 points. Besides that, Haaland's performance was like a bull that escaped from a cage. he makes trouble for the defense. he is the top score Champions and premier league with 19 goals (5 and 14), so what makes Pep worry? He doesn't. In the next Copenhagen, he really sure creates a win with 2 goals different.

I voted for Real Madrid and really expect that the club will be the champion again.
But, seeing the performance of Man City, with Haaland, well, Man City really has the biggest chance. This club is exactly very strong. We can see that Haaland has very amazing potential and talent, like a monster for their opponents, he can make his position during the match very appropriately, and can make the defenses of opponents feel worried and afraid of that man, wow, he is awesome. Additionally, He is also supported by other great players in Man City. That's exactly very solid and complete.

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Napoli should be able to finish the group at their current position comfortably. I don't actually expect much competition between Liverpool and Ajax after seeing Ajax's very poor effort against those teams. Liverpool are improving their performance in the Champions League day by day. They can finish the group stage at the second position.

Ajax deserve the Europa League now considering their performance level. I don't know what has changed for them this much but they are no good in defense and offense both. Maybe they decided to care about the Eredivisie more and this affected their effort in the Champions League negatively.

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Even if they don't have the best squad compared to the biggest favourites of the Champions League title they still manage to find a way to win it.

Its pretty weird that you use this bolded words though because most of their lineup remains pretty much the same as last season. Thats the lineup that won the Champions League and they were not the favourites to win as well last season. Aside from that, it all comes down after the group stage though to know which teams are actually the favourites according to the statistics on the group stage

In this case what you say is true because of the many big clubs maybe only Real Madrid which did not change their players much because if we look at this season there are only Tchouameni and Rudiger who are additions there and even then they also have to lose Casemiro but the thing like this it still doesn't seem to make Madrid weak even if they are not seeded but experience is definitely decisive and I think Madrid will definitely have a lot to say in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: X-ray on October 07, 2022, 06:46:33 PM

That's why that club was trying so hard for now. I do know what you meant about that but the same thing has ever happened with bayern munich, right? this club was loosing so many times even when it reaches final just like when it was against chelsea.Finally bayern able to make it several years later. The same thing is still happening with PSG to use all of its available resource to win the champion league no matter what happened with it. that's why mbappe got a very big salary.
PSG is still hunting champion league title caused by this tittle is the most difficult tittle to be won.

Actually, PSG has the most chance in the group qualification to be qualified for the next round, moreover, this club is still at the top standing in the group. But their loss in the last match against Benfica really disappointing. They have so many superstars with high talent but their performance was under enough at that time. I don know if Benfice is lucky or not, but in this case, PSG was underperformance at that time.
For League 1 itself, PSG is still at the top standing, but the point is not really far with the runner-up. If in League 1, I am still sure enough that they will have the title. But for UCL, this will be very difficult for this club because there are some other big clubs that are fighting with more consistency.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on October 07, 2022, 05:13:07 PM

I'm curious how PSG will do this year. They haven't won the title once, but with a bit of luck it could have been twice. Last year it was actually inconceivable that Real Madrid would still win after the double deficit against PSG. And they lost to Bayern Munich once in the final. Based on the results in the group stage you can't say much, they don't have any pressure there and a draw against Benfica might be a bit disappointing but it's not a 4-0 loss for example. Only in the semi-finals will we see how good they really are in the CL, but it will be a strange tournament because the World Cup will also come in between. So the first cross final will only be played after the World Cup.

That's why that club was trying so hard for now. I do know what you meant about that but the same thing has ever happened with bayern munich, right? this club was loosing so many times even when it reaches final just like when it was against chelsea.Finally bayern able to make it several years later. The same thing is still happening with PSG to use all of its available resource to win the champion league no matter what happened with it. that's why mbappe got a very big salary.
PSG is still hunting champion league title caused by this tittle is the most difficult tittle to be won.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 07, 2022, 04:32:37 PM

Even if they don't have the best squad compared to the biggest favourites of the Champions League title they still manage to find a way to win it.

Its pretty weird that you use this bolded words though because most of their lineup remains pretty much the same as last season. Thats the lineup that won the Champions League and they were not the favourites to win as well last season. Aside from that, it all comes down after the group stage though to know which teams are actually the favourites according to the statistics on the group stage

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Bookmakers are constantly changing their minds about winning the Champions League. I just think we shouldn't flatten a team like Napoli. They are currently playing really well and have also given Ajax a beating with 1-6. And recently they also won 4-1 against Liverpool, those are decent results. Napoli is so good that they can also win away at Liverpool. Win the Champions League? Normally not but this team has a chance against anyone. And as usual, you also need some luck with the draw.

Yes napoli team is performing really well but i think the knock out stage is a different story its only two games and only the best ones will remain,they faced two teams who are not in a good form this season both ajax and liverpool have trouble this season, personally i don't see them beating bayern, psg,man city and real madrid in a knock out format

At least qualifying for the group stage is something very good.
As for the knockout, it can still be seen later because there are always some surprises that happen. I think like last season Villarreal was surprising and it is not impossible that this season there will also be some surprises.
What Napoli have to do is continue to be consistent with the current conditions so that will be very good for them.

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Quote from: Ratash on October 07, 2022, 05:35:20 PM

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Bookmakers are constantly changing their minds about winning the Champions League. I just think we shouldn't flatten a team like Napoli. They are currently playing really well and have also given Ajax a beating with 1-6. And recently they also won 4-1 against Liverpool, those are decent results. Napoli is so good that they can also win away at Liverpool. Win the Champions League? Normally not but this team has a chance against anyone. And as usual, you also need some luck with the draw.

Yes napoli team is performing really well but i think the knock out stage is a different story its only two games and only the best ones will remain,they faced two teams who are not in a good form this season both ajax and liverpool have trouble this season, personally i don't see them beating bayern, psg,man city and real madrid in a knock out format

The performance of the Napoli team this season is excellent. But they will have to play consistently well if they want to qualify for the next round. Let's not forget that they have two strong teams like Liverpool and Ajax in their group. So if Napoli make any mistakes and drop points, their qualification for the next round will be in doubt. But I believe Napoli will be able to hold on to the top spot in Group A.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on October 07, 2022, 04:50:48 PM

Bookmakers are constantly changing their minds about winning the Champions League. I just think we shouldn't flatten a team like Napoli. They are currently playing really well and have also given Ajax a beating with 1-6. And recently they also won 4-1 against Liverpool, those are decent results. Napoli is so good that they can also win away at Liverpool. Win the Champions League? Normally not but this team has a chance against anyone. And as usual, you also need some luck with the draw.

Yes napoli team is performing really well but i think the knock out stage is a different story its only two games and only the best ones will remain,they faced two teams who are not in a good form this season both ajax and liverpool have trouble this season, personally i don't see them beating bayern, psg,man city and real madrid in a knock out format

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on October 07, 2022, 05:13:07 PM

I'm curious how PSG will do this year. They haven't won the title once, but with a bit of luck it could have been twice. Last year it was actually inconceivable that Real Madrid would still win after the double deficit against PSG. And they lost to Bayern Munich once in the final. Based on the results in the group stage you can't say much, they don't have any pressure there and a draw against Benfica might be a bit disappointing but it's not a 4-0 loss for example. Only in the semi-finals will we see how good they really are in the CL, but it will be a strange tournament because the World Cup will also come in between. So the first cross final will only be played after the World Cup.

I still feel this year will still be the same for PSG. Regardless of how strong they are now there are still some equal teams and right now I'm at Manchester City for the Champions League.
PSG is a good club but only for Ligue 1 nothing more than that and no matter how much PSG overhauled players this season is still not for them I think.

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Quote from: Yurkov on October 07, 2022, 12:07:54 PM

If you are going to compare players, look at the player quality of Benfica and PSG. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe are the best attacking part of PSG. In the defense, Ramos, Hakimi, Marquinhos are the best defense lineup. Even then, how can we not be disappointed in PSG's game? I will compare PSG with Manchester City. So how will PSG dream of winning the Champions League?

In terms of the quality of the players, it is clear that PSG is far superior, but again, this is a game of teamwork, not individual, so that no matter how strong and big the names of the players at PSG are, when they are not able to maintain cooperation, the results will not be good.
Benfica played very solid and disciplined in this match and of course this is something that is difficult for PSG to do.
As for the championship, I still think that the Champions League is still not the place for PSG.

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I'm curious how PSG will do this year. They haven't won the title once, but with a bit of luck it could have been twice. Last year it was actually inconceivable that Real Madrid would still win after the double deficit against PSG. And they lost to Bayern Munich once in the final. Based on the results in the group stage you can't say much, they don't have any pressure there and a draw against Benfica might be a bit disappointing but it's not a 4-0 loss for example. Only in the semi-finals will we see how good they really are in the CL, but it will be a strange tournament because the World Cup will also come in between. So the first cross final will only be played after the World Cup.

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In fact, the current form of a team like PSG is not expected at all. Their defense keeps the ball in their area for longer. They are not able to get the ball to attacking players quickly, which wastes a lot of time. Also, PSG's midfielders need to be changed.

In this case I don't see the usual performance of PSG.
Benfica are indeed a good team and they are also one of the big teams in the Primeira Liga but PSG can be said to be far superior in every way, whether it's from the quality of the players or others but their performance in this match was really not very good in my opinion even though they controlled the game.
Benfica played very disciplined in this match and of course this is a good thing for them. I really appreciate that, at least this can be a lesson for Galtier that Ligue 1 is very different from the Champions League.

PSG dominated possession in the first half as expected, but were met with a resilient Benfica who played with courage through out the match. I did not see PSG winning Benfica because of how they’ve been performing in the Portuguese league. Vitinha and Marco Verratti dominated the central areas of the pitch using their quick passing and agile movements to beat defenders. I don’t think there’s any need to change PSG midfield because the players in that position are experienced and good. Maybe they would have offered more but it wasn’t there day to win.

Overall, it's clear that PSG is better with a good midfield and a very good front line, but they also can't underestimate Benfica of course because, as you said, Benfica is still quite good in the Champions League and in the Primeira Liga.
But maybe their second meeting at home to PSG will definitely be very different considering they don't want the same thing to happen again in next week's game.

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Bookmakers are constantly changing their minds about winning the Champions League. I just think we shouldn't flatten a team like Napoli. They are currently playing really well and have also given Ajax a beating with 1-6. And recently they also won 4-1 against Liverpool, those are decent results. Napoli is so good that they can also win away at Liverpool. Win the Champions League? Normally not but this team has a chance against anyone. And as usual, you also need some luck with the draw.

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Getting draw is unpredictable. You can't blame PSG for getting draw against a lesser team than PSG. It's too early to say that. Anything can happen. Just because manchester city was showing a good performance in EPL and it doesn't mean city can win champion league easily. Napoli, real madrid and so many big clubs have been still participating in the champion league. I will not underestimate another team but you must remember that if city many times city got fail to get champion league

PSG play in Ligue 1 without much competition, and City build their character in the Premier League matches all the time. You should also not call Benfica a weak opponent, especially when they play at home. There are not so many applicants for the title, these are Real, City, Bayern (this is my opinion). PSG still place too much importance on this title and that is what prevents them from winning to a large extent. The rest of the contenders look mediocre, or if they play well in the group, like Napoli, then you need to look at their results in the playoffs.

In this case it is as you say because indeed if you look at the name of the club, even though Benfica may be under PSG but they are a big club in the Primeira Liga so this cannot be said to be a weak club and when it is the Champions League it is clearly a collection of clubs which does have more power than other clubs so this is something that shouldn't happen for PSG but can be said as normal too.

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Real Madrid have a really interesting thing about them. Even if they don't have the best squad compared to the biggest favourites of the Champions League title they still manage to find a way to win it. The experience is a huge factor for them of course. They have dominated the tournament with many titles so far. They are of course a big threat in this season as well. If they build a dream team in the future then they would be even much more difficult to be stopped.

Maybe bookmakers are pushing them down in the list despite being the last champions. But I think that it's worth betting on them to win the title @10.00 already now. There is no harm in giving it a chance considering their huge dominance with five titles in the previous ten seasons here.

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Napoli have impressed everyone by their incredible performance so far. Even though they have tough opponents like Liverpool and Ajax in the group they are still playing like they are much stronger than both of them. They defeated Liverpool 4-1 and did the same to Ajax by even a bigger score like 6-1. They are living the dream now and I assume they would finish the group as the leader as well.

However I'm curious about their performance against other big teams. This performance deserves to play in the semi final at least I believe. Because they are one of the most performing teams of the group stage already.

Napoli is really surprising - they are simultaneously leading both in Serie A and in their Champions League group, and after such big victories over competitors, in order to stay in first place, they only need to defeat the Rangers once in a home game and not lose much (this is the worst option but they can even win or draw). The problem is that the play-offs will only start in February and it is unlikely that Napoli will maintain their current form by then.

Yes, I am really very impressed with Napoli's outstanding performance so far. The Partenopei have been perfect in Serie A and the Champions League. I had doubts about Napoli this season, because many of their mainstay players left, but with the squad they have now, Luciano Spalletti is able to dismiss the doubts of many people. Hopefully Napoli can continue to appear consistent until the end of the season.

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They are exactly the same teams from last year that were fighting for the victory in the Champions League.
In fact, I think this year there are even fewer teams as strong as last year. And it looks like we'll have more surprises.

In the case of PSG, something tells me that the same thing will happen as in other years, if they catch a Bayer, for example, they won't be able to win. And if Real Madrid reach the final, they will win again.

Interest in Manchester City appears every season to be able to win the Champions League trophy they want. It wouldn't be that easy for them to get that, because the other teams that were here were also targeting the same thing. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Paris Saint Germain are some of the strong teams out of many other strong teams competing for it. The road they have to walk is so heavy in front of them. Last season they were also the biggest favorites for the trophy, but they weren't too tough against Real Madrid even though they could have taken the lead.

I would say that so far they have been a great team every season, and they played very well football every season as well, and each year they bought one player that would make some difference for them too.

However, this year they added Haaland, a player that they bought for cheaper than what he is worth, and now worths more than double what he should be at around 150 million. Imagine a situation where you add that type of player into an already good team who went to semi-finals last year. I am guessing that they are going to be heavy heavy heavy favorites this year, they were already seen as a big candidate before him, now they also have him on top of that.

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