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Reaching UEFA Champions league finals is already a huge achievement for Borussia Dortmund. This is the 3rd time they have reached the Championship finals and 2nd time in last 25 years. They are a great team but the luck also favored them as they had to meet the poorer team in comparison. They met PSV on round of 16 who were one of the weakest of the 16. They met Atletico Madrid on quaterfinals, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund were considered the weakest of the 8, They met PSG on semis, who is certainly considered weaker in comparison to Munich and Madrid. Many people even claimed Munich vs Madrid semi is the real finals. But the final consist of just one match which is much harder to predict than a two legged game.

Dortmund have impressive performed in Champion League for this season after success reaching the UEFA Champion League final round, its difficult for unfavorite team eliminating top teams such as Atletico Madrid and PSG before success qualifying to final stage. I remember last final Champion League reached by Dortmund on season 2012–13 with most star player from Ikay Gundogan, Matt Hummer, Marco Reus until Robert Lewandowski but failed for defeating Bayern Munich in the final round.

Its third final of Champion League reached by Dortmund but only one time success become the winner, its make motivate for winning their third final but not easy for beating Real Madrid have many star players and become more favorite team for winning the UEFA Champion League trophy.

The challenges that Dortmund will face in this final will not be easy, but mentally they are very optimistic about wanting to make changes. If Dortmund is really able to beat Real Madrid, this will have a big impact on its reputation next season. 60:40 It's still possible that Real Madrid has the advantage but Dortmund also has high hopes. After what Dortmund went through by beating ATM and PSG, it has really proven that they are ready to face Real Madrid.
Ancelotti also said that “We are not thinking about being favourites. "We are focused on playing against opponents who have the right to reach the final after beating high-quality teams like PSG and Atletico, teams with quality, commitment and attitude,"

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Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, there are many surprises that happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so it is possible for Borussia Dortmund to be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact all teams dream enough to win the Champion League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong. Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. ষ Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

Currently the most favourite thing is Real Madrid because of their ability and also their consistent while Borussia Dortmund are also good teams that played a very good fantastic game which can also win. Football is not certainty but you can tell the teams that will win due to their performance but in this regard many see Real Madrid as the winning teams which i will disagree with them, Real Madrid maintain their consistency from the beginning of the season to the end, but still it's not a guarantee for them to win despite they have the experience, take a look at Atalanta and Leverkusen it shocked everybody because long time unbeaten record, everyone knows what Leverkusen are capable of but they end up surprising everyone.

Yes I have seen many games where the weak teams can be aggressive at any time, the obvious teams mostly perform poorly. Since it is a final match, it should never be said with certainty before the game takes place because football games are usually uncertain, depending on which team is able to score goals based on the attack. In this case, since the Borussia Dortmund team has performed well until the final match and the Real Madrid team has performed well, these two teams should never be considered to decide the victory against those who have secured the victory. Football is not a short game it is only possible to win after playing for a long time so you have to perform well from start to finish to win.

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Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, there are many surprises that happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so it is possible for Borussia Dortmund to be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact all teams dream enough to win the Champion League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong. Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. ষ Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

Currently the most favourite thing is Real Madrid because of their ability and also their consistent while Borussia Dortmund are also good teams that played a very good fantastic game which can also win. Football is not certainty but you can tell the teams that will win due to their performance but in this regard many see Real Madrid as the winning teams which i will disagree with them, Real Madrid maintain their consistency from the beginning of the season to the end, but still it's not a guarantee for them to win despite they have the experience, take a look at Atalanta and Leverkusen it shocked everybody because long time unbeaten record, everyone knows what Leverkusen are capable of but they end up surprising everyone.

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With these you can begin to imagine Dortmund’s stand in this upcoming fixture as. They have little or nothing to play for. ⁠Yes of no doubt Dortmund have shown resilience in this year’s UCL but you can’t be sure that will still happen in the final because this is Real Madrid who are European giants. Not overlooking Dortmund at all, I’ll still be very sure of Real Madrid winning the 15th UCL trophy.

It's very hard to think how Real Madrid will lose and Dortmund get the UCL trophy. I mean Real Madrid is really very strong this season. Dortmund played very tough and made it to the final but it wouldn't be enough to beat Real Madrid. Ancelotti is an experienced coach at UCL. And Real Madrid will be playing their 18th (or 19th - CMIIW) final in UCL history. Ancelotti has many variations of tactics that I find difficult to predict. I will favorite Real Madrid to win the UCL. But I can't say they will win. I think the match will be intensive and I predict the match will end in a draw. And Real Madrid got the win after extra time.

There is no doubt it's hard to think about anything but in UEFA we can expect things like which we have not in our thoughts so if we have something surprising or shocking it's never been new because we are having history of results like this with Atlanta win against Bayer Leverkusen is recent time shock which is good encouragement to all those were expecting simple straight forward result in this game. Real Madrid is consistent in Champions League with things have never been problematic for them because they are having competitive squad and their performance and quality both are already checked which give them perfect result.

As we are having hype about this match, most chances we will be having one-sided affair because Real Madrid will be never allow Borussia Dortmund to have any problem for them with their attack even their defense is amazing in last few games.

Reaching UEFA Champions league finals is already a huge achievement for Borussia Dortmund. This is the 3rd time they have reached the Championship finals and 2nd time in last 25 years. They are a great team but the luck also favored them as they had to meet the poorer team in comparison. They met PSV on round of 16 who were one of the weakest of the 16. They met Atletico Madrid on quaterfinals, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund were considered the weakest of the 8, They met PSG on semis, who is certainly considered weaker in comparison to Munich and Madrid. Many people even claimed Munich vs Madrid semi is the real finals. But the final consist of just one match which is much harder to predict than a two legged game.

You're correct about that. I remember how some people believed that if Dortmund would not even making it to the quarterfinals. Going to the final has been one of Dortmund's greatest achievements since the last time they won this trophy. It has been a long time since Dortmund was defeated in the final by Bayern Munich but they keep try till dortmund can once again going to the final again.
They are almost making history, but I don't believe Dortmund will overcome Madrid. I have a feeling Madrid will beat Dortmund very soon. Despite so many dortmund believers who said it would be beating real madrid but that's real madrid. People forgot how real madrid won 14 times UCL.

I don't even need to look at the possibility. the statistics owned by these clubs have stated it all about how majority of people believe madrid is gonna win soon. Dortmund was fortunate in reaching the final via the easier path, as opposed to Real Madrid.
If Dortmund had to go through Madrid, they would not have made it to the final.

I shall make a bet for real madrid. Samegame multi is the best choice as it's quite ez to predict the result.

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I support Borussia Dortmund in any case because this season the club that is not the favorite will always win, I just have to be careful about this final match, like the Atalanta vs Laverkuses match, so there is nothing wrong if I support Borussia Dortmund in this final match. because I hope that there is a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because we know that Real Madrid is very difficult to beat..

Maybe many will start to take risks by betting on Dortmund in the Final match later. Because there are many important matches won by teams that are not favorites this season. For example, Atalanta managed to win in the European League Final. And man united managed to win against Man City in the FA Cup Final. And because of these results, many are starting to be influenced to choose a team that is not a favorite in the UCL final match later. And maybe for Dortmund fans will definitely support Dortmund regardless of the results. Because indeed they are in great spirits because they have not been able to go far in UCL for a long time. And this season Dortmund managed to go very far in UCL even reaching the Final. So all their fans will be really excited to support Dortmund in the Final match later.

Winning and losing is part of the game with soccer is having surprising history which is clearly indicating about any result with in last few finals which are we having in different countries give all atmosphere about cup games which are never been easy to play for any team because here all is just you need to be in for the win and any player can make difference which is surely the most interesting part as we have Lookman who hit hat-trick and end the winning streak of the Bayer Leverkusen so here we are also having 20 players will be give their best for having their favourite result.

Dortmund is having not good season in Bundesliga but their performance from the early matches till now is amazing because no one were expecting they could be jump out of the death group, but they have done and now no one expecting them to beat Real Madrid so is this possible it's really not predictable.

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Quote from: tsaroz on May 30, 2024, 12:12:08 AM

Reaching UEFA Champions league finals is already a huge achievement for Borussia Dortmund. This is the 3rd time they have reached the Championship finals and 2nd time in last 25 years. They are a great team but the luck also favored them as they had to meet the poorer team in comparison. They met PSV on round of 16 who were one of the weakest of the 16. They met Atletico Madrid on quaterfinals, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund were considered the weakest of the 8, They met PSG on semis, who is certainly considered weaker in comparison to Munich and Madrid. Many people even claimed Munich vs Madrid semi is the real finals. But the final consist of just one match which is much harder to predict than a two legged game.

Dortmund have impressive performed in Champion League for this season after success reaching the UEFA Champion League final round, its difficult for unfavorite team eliminating top teams such as Atletico Madrid and PSG before success qualifying to final stage. I remember last final Champion League reached by Dortmund on season 2012–13 with most star player from Ikay Gundogan, Matt Hummer, Marco Reus until Robert Lewandowski but failed for defeating Bayern Munich in the final round.

Its third final of Champion League reached by Dortmund but only one time success become the winner, its make motivate for winning their third final but not easy for beating Real Madrid have many star players and become more favorite team for winning the UEFA Champion League trophy.

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With these you can begin to imagine Dortmund’s stand in this upcoming fixture as. They have little or nothing to play for. ⁠Yes of no doubt Dortmund have shown resilience in this year’s UCL but you can’t be sure that will still happen in the final because this is Real Madrid who are European giants. Not overlooking Dortmund at all, I’ll still be very sure of Real Madrid winning the 15th UCL trophy.

It's very hard to think how Real Madrid will lose and Dortmund get the UCL trophy. I mean Real Madrid is really very strong this season. Dortmund played very tough and made it to the final but it wouldn't be enough to beat Real Madrid. Ancelotti is an experienced coach at UCL. And Real Madrid will be playing their 18th (or 19th - CMIIW) final in UCL history. Ancelotti has many variations of tactics that I find difficult to predict. I will favorite Real Madrid to win the UCL. But I can't say they will win. I think the match will be intensive and I predict the match will end in a draw. And Real Madrid got the win after extra time.

There is no doubt it's hard to think about anything but in UEFA we can expect things like which we have not in our thoughts so if we have something surprising or shocking it's never been new because we are having history of results like this with Atlanta win against Bayer Leverkusen is recent time shock which is good encouragement to all those were expecting simple straight forward result in this game. Real Madrid is consistent in Champions League with things have never been problematic for them because they are having competitive squad and their performance and quality both are already checked which give them perfect result.

As we are having hype about this match, most chances we will be having one-sided affair because Real Madrid will be never allow Borussia Dortmund to have any problem for them with their attack even their defense is amazing in last few games.

Reaching UEFA Champions league finals is already a huge achievement for Borussia Dortmund. This is the 3rd time they have reached the Championship finals and 2nd time in last 25 years. They are a great team but the luck also favored them as they had to meet the poorer team in comparison. They met PSV on round of 16 who were one of the weakest of the 16. They met Atletico Madrid on quaterfinals, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund were considered the weakest of the 8, They met PSG on semis, who is certainly considered weaker in comparison to Munich and Madrid. Many people even claimed Munich vs Madrid semi is the real finals. But the final consist of just one match which is much harder to predict than a two legged game.

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I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

Dortmund is facing an uphill battle against Real Madrid, considering Real Madrid really plays well and if so, Dortmund won't have much of a chance to lift the Trophy.
By scoring an early goal, Dortmund can put some pressure on Real Madrid and make a surprise result happen.
But we all know how difficult it will be for Dortmund to make Real concede an early goal.

I personally believe Real Madrid will dominate thematch by having high ball possession and thus, of course, Real Madrid will continue to attack and have high goal attempts. But yes, if Real Madrid make a mistake then of course it is still possible for Dortmund to make a counterattack to score first. If so, then ofcourse Dortmund will play more defensively when Dortmund have won the score, for example 1-0. But indeed,of course, if Dortmund make a mistake, it will also be well utilized by Real Madrid. So, although Dortmund will play defensively, but at least there is no guarantee thatDortmund will be able to hold Real Madrid to a draw during the match.

Realmadrid are not used to possessions
They are only after attacking but we can still say possession might still favour them because of their opponents and might still not if their opponents tends to be on a very different form so it's under maybe but for sure Realmadrid is not after possession.

The only way for a more defensive game is if Dortmund secure a goal first before realmadrid does but defensive game might not be too much until 70 ~80 maybe for Realmadrid because they don't really like playing extra-time.Dortmund are good in defensive game while realmadrid is good in attacking so playing Dortmund playing defensive alot might be a bad idea but they still need to balance it because there's one thing have noticed in realmadrid when playing matches like this
"Offside playing " ~ a player or two atackers are always placed on Offside or near Offside without them attracting attention until perfect time

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Quote from: Helena Yu on May 29, 2024, 10:26:03 AM

Bellingham only decline in goal and assist stats, but if you check his stats about his passing, tackling, shooting, etc you will see his stats is nothing different with his last few weeks stats. Football isn't only goal and assist, if we only measure that to judge a good player, then defenders have no way to become man of the match or win Ballon d'Or since their stats will always lower than attacking midfielders and strikers.

You are right that football is not only about goals and assists because speed and other tactics are also needed on the field. If players are not good at playing tactics then they cannot perform well on the field. There are also striker players who need other players so they can create opportunities. Usually those who have tactics. intelligence in dribbling and speed in running so that not only players can score goals, the composition of players on the field have different roles, not all of them attack on the field. If all players play the role of attacking and scoring goals, the role of the back line will be destroyed and in the end they will often concede. The role of the back line is also very important to maintain the defense.

Jude Bellingham has a good playing technique even though he is currently not as productive on the field as he was at the start of the season but in fact Carlo Anceloti still considers him an important player on the field and is really needed to complete the main starting because the coach really knows that the players he has have strong strengths. What is needed on the field is not only to attack and create opportunities because the role of each player in completing the composition of the squad makes the club perform optimally.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on May 29, 2024, 11:18:51 AM

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With these you can begin to imagine Dortmund’s stand in this upcoming fixture as. They have little or nothing to play for. ⁠Yes of no doubt Dortmund have shown resilience in this year’s UCL but you can’t be sure that will still happen in the final because this is Real Madrid who are European giants. Not overlooking Dortmund at all, I’ll still be very sure of Real Madrid winning the 15th UCL trophy.

It's very hard to think how Real Madrid will lose and Dortmund get the UCL trophy. I mean Real Madrid is really very strong this season. Dortmund played very tough and made it to the final but it wouldn't be enough to beat Real Madrid. Ancelotti is an experienced coach at UCL. And Real Madrid will be playing their 18th (or 19th - CMIIW) final in UCL history. Ancelotti has many variations of tactics that I find difficult to predict. I will favorite Real Madrid to win the UCL. But I can't say they will win. I think the match will be intensive and I predict the match will end in a draw. And Real Madrid got the win after extra time.

There is no doubt it's hard to think about anything but in UEFA we can expect things like which we have not in our thoughts so if we have something surprising or shocking it's never been new because we are having history of results like this with Atlanta win against Bayer Leverkusen is recent time shock which is good encouragement to all those were expecting simple straight forward result in this game. Real Madrid is consistent in Champions League with things have never been problematic for them because they are having competitive squad and their performance and quality both are already checked which give them perfect result.

As we are having hype about this match, most chances we will be having one-sided affair because Real Madrid will be never allow Borussia Dortmund to have any problem for them with their attack even their defense is amazing in last few games.

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I do not dispute the fact that Real Madrid can actually lose against Dortmund and indeed luck has a place in football, we have seen so many types were a team literally dominate a match but in the fail to score while the opponent with just one opportunity they seal the game.

Though the chances of this happening to Real Madrid now is smaller than any other team to me now simply because if we observe this season we will notice that no player in the entire Real Madrid squad can be underestimated when it seems no hope again a player steps up as tge game changer and that's how they even made it to the final.

Real have shown more than once throughout the season that they can win back, that is, they know how to get out of the most difficult situations, so I am inclined to believe that Real will win the Champions League final again. They've played in the Champions League final 17 times and won 14 of those matches, so you know how often they lose when it comes to the final. I told City or Real, whoever wins will most likely be the champion.

Real Madrid is having legitimate history in the Champions League no one can deny their success and results which they have in last few rounds here in this season with no one also having any doubt about Borussia Dortmund which is currently opponent of them but still we need to understand this is game and any team can go through for the win with both are having good results and players which can change the momentum of the game.
Real Madrid is having good players those can bring changes with their own skills and quality which is huge advantage for them as they are going for the youngsters which are backed by few experienced players those are doing this all for the years here and still have ability to convert things.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on May 29, 2024, 03:04:19 PM

I do not dispute the fact that Real Madrid can actually lose against Dortmund and indeed luck has a place in football, we have seen so many types were a team literally dominate a match but in the fail to score while the opponent with just one opportunity they seal the game.

Though the chances of this happening to Real Madrid now is smaller than any other team to me now simply because if we observe this season we will notice that no player in the entire Real Madrid squad can be underestimated when it seems no hope again a player steps up as tge game changer and that's how they even made it to the final.

Real have shown more than once throughout the season that they can win back, that is, they know how to get out of the most difficult situations, so I am inclined to believe that Real will win the Champions League final again. They've played in the Champions League final 17 times and won 14 of those matches, so you know how often they lose when it comes to the final. I told City or Real, whoever wins will most likely be the champion.

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Quote from: Pandorak on May 29, 2024, 01:10:42 PM

Real Madrid can be considered superior, based on the last 5 head to head matches between Real Madrid vs Dortmund in the Champions League. However, we must know that Dortmund's last 5 matches recently, Dortmund is very favored with 2 wins in the Champions League and 2 wins in the Bundesliga, and only experienced one defeat in the Bundesliga match.

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

The possibility of the match extending to the extra time is still little because both teams from their past head to head meeting have clearly shown who is at a bigger advantage than the other. They have both come a long way to the final, so no one will be expecting less from one another, it’s just the facts and reality at hand that making one superior over the other. Real Madrid have the highest chances of winning this league but that does not guarantee them a easy path to it because Dortmund will try their best to stop them even though their best can be matched with Real Madrid’s prowess. A lot of speculations have been going on the team that will win but realistically, until the match is played before the real winner will be ascertained even after all this statistics from both teams that clearly shows who will win the match.

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I still feel Real Madrid will be victorious

Real Madrid can be considered superior, based on the last 5 head to head matches between Real Madrid vs Dortmund in the Champions League. However, we must know that Dortmund's last 5 matches recently, Dortmund is very favored with 2 wins in the Champions League and 2 wins in the Bundesliga, and only experienced one defeat in the Bundesliga match.

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

unexpected things can arise when the final match between Dortmund vs Madrid occurs, for example, like the final match between Leverkusen vs Atalanta, many people predicted that Atalanta would lose but it turned out that they were wrong, in fact Atalanta was the winner, the final match will definitely take place very tight, Dortmund won't want to lose easily, even though Madrid is still the favorite to become champion, so this will be a really exciting match.

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Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong. Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

you know things, practically Real Madrid have won almost the entire Champions League, they have many cups and therefore have a lot of experience in the matter
furthermore the team has been really strong and stable for many years
Itis difficult to make a dent in a team like that in my opinion

I don't think they need to change anything, Real Madrid are a really strong team and if anyone needs to change anything to win the final it's Borussia Dortmund. But I think this match will be the most intense for this team, but by no means the toughest in their history. Overall they have a chance to win, but seeing what Real Madrid are like this season those chances become objectively smaller

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Quote from: Pandorak on May 29, 2024, 01:10:42 PM

Real Madrid can be considered superior, based on the last 5 head to head matches between Real Madrid vs Dortmund in the Champions League. However, we must know that Dortmund's last 5 matches recently, Dortmund is very favored with 2 wins in the Champions League and 2 wins in the Bundesliga, and only experienced one defeat in the Bundesliga match.

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

Don't use last 5 matches to judge Real Madrid performance to judge the final match between them and Dortmund, if I remember correctly Real Madrid has won the Laliga trophy and other matches aren't that too important for them Anymore and because some players has had injuries and weren't fit to play and switched them with other players that weren't too frequent in starting games, so you can see where the draw games came from right.

However, Dortmund is still using their players which will eventually play on that same Saturday, that makes them even vulnerable to loss. Real Madrid will come hard for them and since past years, even at worse of Real Madrid they beat Dortmund many times, this final match isn't exceptional as well.

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The fact that Dortmund made it to the final shows that they can't be ignored here, they have been going against odds to get to the final but one thing is sure Real Madrid won't be sleeping especially from the fact that this is Toni Kroos last dance, they won't be sleeping and they are not the kind of team that slip off after winning a title, I believe that the defeat of Bayern Leverkusen will even make Ancelotti and his squad to be cautious of Dortmund.

I still feel Real Madrid will be victorious

I think we all think this a little bit, that is, that we think that Real Madrid will win
sure, its a final and the ball is round and rolls, it can roll badly, a post is a crossbar
but generally, given Real Madrid enormous strength, it should go that way.. lets say that Real Madrid is the favourite

We thought about how if Dortmund won then everyone would be astonished at the result, this is a plausible scenario but it was never accepted by many people of course they favored Real Madrid over Dortmund.

Of course, Real Madrid's strength in big Champions League finals still has an influence and look at how when they faced Bayern Munich, instead of falling, they burned mentally at the end of the match so we never doubted Real Madrid.

Maybe there are people who believe in unlucky where the ball hits the crossbar continuously, this can still be found in the gap the players will certainly be creative to find the goals they do.

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Yes, no football fan would accept that Borussia Dortmund would make it to this year's UEFA Champions League finals, but they surprised everyone by setting up a final with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's coach knows that for Borussia Dortmund to make it to the finals, they can win against Real Madrid if they are not careful playing against Borussia Dortmund. I can see hungry players in Borussia Dortmund who want to make history when nobody expects them to do it, just like what Manchester United players did against Manchester City in the FA Cup finals.

The fact is that Borussia Dortmund managed to reach the final and that's how football is, many surprises happen, as well as for the final match, Borussia Dortmund cannot be underestimated, especially since those who are not favorites have no burden in this match, so Borussia Dortmund can be able to play freely. and can bring out the best performance.
If we look at the motivation to win the title, I think both teams are the same and in fact, all teams dream enough to win the Champions League title.

Real Madrid is indeed superior in all aspects but I think they will not have it easy in the final, this will be a fierce match.

It's true, in football, anything can happen, it doesn't matter whether the team is the favorite team or not, but if they can win then we all can't do anything and can only accept the fact that they won. And I agree, with their status being no more favored than Real Madrid, their burden should be smaller because even if they lose, everyone will consider the defeat they received as natural. So they can use this to be able to play freely in this match.

But on the contrary, if they can win, then everyone will be surprised by their victory and their job now is to try as hard as possible so that people can be surprised by their victory in the match later. They must be able to ensure that they can play well, even though in the end they will still lose, but at least I hope they can provide tough resistance to Real Madrid in this final match.

An upset is always possible in football, and I will not be surprised if Borussia Dortmund beat Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League finals. Any club that qualifies for the UEFA Champions League finals will want to win the trophy because it is one of the most prestigious trophies in the world. Borussia Dortmund needs to be careful with Real Madrid and also be mindful of their defense to make it difficult for Real Madrid not to penetrate their defense easily. The UEFA Champions League finals will be interesting to watch because both teams play attacking football.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on May 29, 2024, 03:04:19 PM

I do not dispute the fact that Real Madrid can actually lose against Dortmund and indeed luck has a place in football, we have seen so many types were a team literally dominate a match but in the fail to score while the opponent with just one opportunity they seal the game.

Though the chances of this happening to Real Madrid now is smaller than any other team to me now simply because if we observe this season we will notice that no player in the entire Real Madrid squad can be underestimated when it seems no hope again a player steps up as tge game changer and that's how they even made it to the final.

There is luck in football I can’t deny that, but as I go through Madrid’s records on final matches in the Champions League, I see that they have a very good percentage of winning the finals.

I know that Dortmund is preparing to the same thing Atalanta did against Leverkusen which is possible but I also think Madrid is also well prepared to avoid all these defeats.

I am expecting Madrid to win the finals but it will be a tough match for them because Dortmund will actually give them a tough time in the final.

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Real Madrid can be considered superior, based on the last 5 head to head matches between Real Madrid vs Dortmund in the Champions League. However, we must know that Dortmund's last 5 matches recently, Dortmund is very favored with 2 wins in the Champions League and 2 wins in the Bundesliga, and only experienced one defeat in the Bundesliga match.

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

Real Madrid, who also didn't make it to the final last season, will definitely not make any mistakes this season when they make it back to the final. But yes, Dortmund also seems to be in a very ready condition to make things dif
ficult for Real Madrid. And the most important thing is that both teams must be able to play at full strength. And I hope that no players are injured before the final match. Even though both teams are definitely training very hard at the moment, I hope they also avoid unnecessary injuries in training. Because we certainly expect both teams to fight with their full strength. I really can't wait to see this match. Because currently a lot of speculation and predictions have been made and it is only a matter of time before we speculate and predict who will win. Who favors Dortmund or favors Real Madrid? what is clear is that this will be very interesting.

This is a Champions League match where we have two teams against each other and yes Real Madrid may appear to be the strongest contender in the game but we should not right off their opponent Dortmund because in football the unexpected happenist times and in this game, I think the unexpected should be the only way that Dortmund will get victory against Real Madrid because Real Madrid does not have the experience but they have a better team and a better players rating them based on individual performance was perfect.

For now we are yet to have news of an injury in the two teams and since they have ended their league matches, they will continue to train to avoid injuries because they can't risk getting injuries ahead of the game. The game is going to be tough because the two teams will fight ill the very end but at the end a winner will emerge but for now I think we are not certain that a particular team Will lift the champions league trophy this season.

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