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Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily.
Both Dortmund and Real Madrid, no one needs to underestimate each other. Because they are both the best and strongest clubs at the moment, even though there may be stronger ones out there, but for now at UCL, they are both the best. Qualifying for the final round is not an easy thing, and it's not just because of luck. So, both of them will definitely give their best performance so that they can achieve the optimal results possible.

It's just that, if you consider the data, Real Madrid definitely has far more experience in UCL finals than Dortmund. And with this experience, with an experienced coach too, Real Madrid should have a greater chance of winning. However, once again, it is not an easy matter, in every match, especially the Champions final, there will always be a lot of things happening on the field throughout the match. Biak Anceloti and Terzic will definitely develop various strategies that are most fixed and appropriate to suit their position and that of their opponent.
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The chances of victory are greater for Real Madrid because they have experience, good squad strength both in the domestic league and the big league, they are much more consistent from the matches they have played this season, some analysts are more doubtful about Dortmund because they are not so experienced in the Champion league and they are not consistent in the Bundes league, of course this is one of the parameters that can be assessed, besides that, the popularity of Real Madrid is much greater than Dortmund, so there must be more who make it the favorite team, as well as Real Madrid players have many popular players, not the same as Dortmund players, so it is very reasonable to consider Dortmund a team that is still Under Dog.

By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.

Real Madrid have devoted most of their time for this champions league to the extent that even at some point when they had serious challenges they still overcame and move forward like the match they played against Manchester city, that match was more like a final because the both teams literally were the strongest in the champions league but still they were able to eliminate Manchester city. Now when they met Bayern Munich they almost lost hope if not for the late minutes goals that was scored by  Joselu that made them reach the final stage of the champions league.

Real Madrid have really made a lot of commitment for this champions league so it will be very bad if after all their efforts and resilience they were unable to lift the trophy so they will surely fight till the end so they won't give Borussia Dortmund any chance at all. on the other way round, checking at how Borussia Dortmund were able to make their way to the final stages they might still do incredible things that will marvel everyone so let us not also belittle them but however Real Madrid would not want to miss this golden opportunity after all they have done it severally.

There is always a chance for the weaker teams like Dortmund in the Champions League to see a miracle from them. Drtmoun was lucky so far because they were mostly playing against the weaker teams compared to Real Madrid. This reminds me of the last season of the Champions League when Inter Milan had easier games than Manchester City. That's why I think in the end Real Madrid is going to win another title in the Champions League after beating Dortmund.
But the bad news for Real Madrid is about their partner Aurélien Tchouaméni, it seems he got injured in the game against Bayern Munich and there is the possibility for Aurélien Tchouaméni to lose the game against Dortmund.



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Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.
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After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a  goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Dortmund is not an easy team to deal with. The last time they faced each other was in 2017. There were two matches in 2017 in Champion's League, Real Madrid beat Dortmund in both of them but more previous matches were draw and in 2014 Dortmund beat Real Madrid. I think these stats aren't good indicators today because 7 years have passed and teams look very different with different players but now this is the final, very important match for both teams but more important for Dortmund because Dortmund have only won the Champions League once, in 1997 while Real Madrid won it many times. In 1 June, Dortmund will have to chance it for the second time and for the first time in 21th century. I think they'll be more motivated to win compared to Real Madrid but if coaches favour them, then there is nothing we can do to stop them from winning. I hope the game will be fair and not like we saw it against Bayern Munich. I hope Dortmund wins the UCL.
The only excuse or respect that I would give to Dortmund now is because of the fact they are actually playing a final and despite the fact that Madrid outwits them in every way the facts still holds that it's a final and its never going to be easy between the two teams. But on paper and on the heart of every football fan world wide it's vividly clear that Real Madrid are already crown champions except football and it's wonders have to say otherwise.

The Real Madrid team is definitely the strongest this season, and could win the crown in the final. But the Burussia Dortmund team is so strong that they are in the finals, the players of the Dortmund team will do their best to top them to victory. Currently Dortmund team is trying hard to win with Real Madrid team, but Real Madrid team has been collecting this crown since past they have taken home this title several times. So they will try in two teams to collect the crown, have come to the finals with great effort so will not let team lose easily.
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They are the best team in the world, so calling them the best team in Europe would be technically incorrect (although the meaning will not change since Europe is number 1 in football).

But I understand that you doubt Real Madrid? May I suggest that you think City are stronger than them (or anyone else)? The strength of the team is determined by the results: in the confrontation between Real and City, which can be said to have lasted for 3 years in a row, Real won a convincing victory, the overall score was 2-1  Wink

City may even have a better squad but Real plays much better football strategically and although Pep is also a very good strategist he has not managed to beat Ancelotti. I think Dortmund's chances are even worse because Real is simply a real team for the Champions League and the individual players are also very strong and Ancelotti knows exactly how to let his team play.
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The only excuse or respect that I would give to Dortmund now is because of the fact they are actually playing a final and despite the fact that Madrid outwits them in every way the facts still holds that it's a final and its never going to be easy between the two teams. But on paper and on the heart of every football fan world wide it's vividly clear that Real Madrid are already crown champions except football and it's wonders have to say otherwise.
Even if we all know a d are aware of the strength of Real Madrid over Dortmund, I don't think it's a fair one to underestimate how much they could achieve if they eventually get lucky, I'm very much aware in the fact that Real Madrid cannot come this far only to loose the game in a cheep manner to their opponent especially a final game which will get them to lifting the trophy they had played for all through the season.

Technically and on paper it's very clear that Dortmund isn't going to win the champions league but then there have been cases where every odd is against a particular tem and yet it still wasn't enough to stopping them from winning the game, Dortmund for me ha e tried to have been able to even get to this point because there were other top and bigger teams who were even more experienced than they were in the champions league but then they were still unable to win the trophy, they were still unable to even get pass group stage and some stoped at the quarter and semi finals so it's such a commendable height for Dortmund already.

I don't think they ha e come this far in the champions league before and if they have it's a very few times of which this may be the second or at most third so they have really tried and so winning the trophy shouldn't be a problem they will put upon their selves because in anyways they have still tried and will be seen as one who has in this league this season so far, for Madrid this is no new thing and thy can't wait to win.
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After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a  goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Dortmund is not an easy team to deal with. The last time they faced each other was in 2017. There were two matches in 2017 in Champion's League, Real Madrid beat Dortmund in both of them but more previous matches were draw and in 2014 Dortmund beat Real Madrid. I think these stats aren't good indicators today because 7 years have passed and teams look very different with different players but now this is the final, very important match for both teams but more important for Dortmund because Dortmund have only won the Champions League once, in 1997 while Real Madrid won it many times. In 1 June, Dortmund will have to chance it for the second time and for the first time in 21th century. I think they'll be more motivated to win compared to Real Madrid but if coaches favour them, then there is nothing we can do to stop them from winning. I hope the game will be fair and not like we saw it against Bayern Munich. I hope Dortmund wins the UCL.
The only excuse or respect that I would give to Dortmund now is because of the fact they are actually playing a final and despite the fact that Madrid outwits them in every way the facts still holds that it's a final and its never going to be easy between the two teams. But on paper and on the heart of every football fan world wide it's vividly clear that Real Madrid are already crown champions except football and it's wonders have to say otherwise.
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Atletico Madrid is a strong team, but Dortmund was able to beat them in the semifinals. The atmosphere of the Champions League final will make both teams equally under pressure, a balance of support from visitors is also expected so that both teams will fight for their fate without taking sides.

Real Madrid have a lot of final experience, they are the kings of the Champions League title, but who will guarantee that they win it this season?
Even if Real Madrid's chances are very high, the risk of defeat is still there and it should not be ignored. It is not always possible for Real Madrid to maintain its finals record by winning the title, it is possible to see Real Madrid succumb to other teams from a probability point of view.
For me, if you look at the two teams between Dortmund and Real Madrid, of course their journey to get to the final was quite difficult because Dortmund had quite tough opponents from the group phase to the semifinals. Likewise with Real Madrid, they had quite strong opponents but they managed to beat all their opponents. In the final round, of course both teams will play better than what they have shown. For Real Madrid, they have the mentality and have many players who are quality enough so that they will be quite the favorite to win the UCL trophy.

With Dortmund impressive performance in the Champions League, it is clear that Real Madrid must play more carefully because Dortmund wants to aim for a trophy for the second time in the Champions League. For Dortmund they have reached the final 3 times and in the final this season they will face a team that is strong enough so they have to have a neat strategy to beat Real Madrid.
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After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a  goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Dortmund is not an easy team to deal with. The last time they faced each other was in 2017. There were two matches in 2017 in Champion's League, Real Madrid beat Dortmund in both of them but more previous matches were draw and in 2014 Dortmund beat Real Madrid. I think these stats aren't good indicators today because 7 years have passed and teams look very different with different players but now this is the final, very important match for both teams but more important for Dortmund because Dortmund have only won the Champions League once, in 1997 while Real Madrid won it many times. In 1 June, Dortmund will have to chance it for the second time and for the first time in 21th century. I think they'll be more motivated to win compared to Real Madrid but if coaches favour them, then there is nothing we can do to stop them from winning. I hope the game will be fair and not like we saw it against Bayern Munich. I hope Dortmund wins the UCL.
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Bellingham ghosted in the semi final to be honest, if he doesn’t play well in the final he shouldn’t be anywhere near Ballon d’Or, the biggest players turn up in the biggest games.

Real always seem to find a way to win even when they are not favourites. It’s clear they are not the best team in Europe but here they are again, in the final. Neuer made an awful mistake and the whole tie swung in Real’s favour.

I will be supporting Dortmund in the final, it would be such an amazing achievement if they win it, whereas with Real this is just business.

They are the best team in the world, so calling them the best team in Europe would be technically incorrect (although the meaning will not change since Europe is number 1 in football).

But I understand that you doubt Real Madrid? May I suggest that you think City are stronger than them (or anyone else)? The strength of the team is determined by the results: in the confrontation between Real and City, which can be said to have lasted for 3 years in a row, Real won a convincing victory, the overall score was 2-1  Wink
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The chances of victory are greater for Real Madrid because they have experience, good squad strength both in the domestic league and the big league, they are much more consistent from the matches they have played this season, some analysts are more doubtful about Dortmund because they are not so experienced in the Champion league and they are not consistent in the Bundes league, of course this is one of the parameters that can be assessed, besides that, the popularity of Real Madrid is much greater than Dortmund, so there must be more who make it the favorite team, as well as Real Madrid players have many popular players, not the same as Dortmund players, so it is very reasonable to consider Dortmund a team that is still Under Dog.

By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.

Real Madrid have devoted most of their time for this champions league to the extent that even at some point when they had serious challenges they still overcame and move forward like the match they played against Manchester city, that match was more like a final because the both teams literally were the strongest in the champions league but still they were able to eliminate Manchester city. Now when they met Bayern Munich they almost lost hope if not for the late minutes goals that was scored by  Joselu that made them reach the final stage of the champions league.

Real Madrid have really made a lot of commitment for this champions league so it will be very bad if after all their efforts and resilience they were unable to lift the trophy so they will surely fight till the end so they won't give Borussia Dortmund any chance at all. on the other way round, checking at how Borussia Dortmund were able to make their way to the final stages they might still do incredible things that will marvel everyone so let us not also belittle them but however Real Madrid would not want to miss this golden opportunity after all they have done it severally.
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The performance of both clubs looked very tense. Real Madrid could hardly create a goal opportunity for more than 80 minutes, while Bayern Munich took the lead with 1 goal in the 68th minute, making all Real Madrid fans feel anxious if Real Madrid lost in that match. but who would have thought that Carlo Ancelotti took the right steps, he put Juselu in at the last minute, with a span of 9 minutes, he was able to score 2 goals, he became the hero of Real Madrid's victory this time, thanks to him, now Real Madrid can reach the final, Carlo Ancelotti can always provide the right strategy in taking quite difficult steps, Joselu can be relied on as a substitute if Real Madrid experiences difficulties.

Many people making Real Madrid the favorite to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid's victory this time proves that Real Madrid is still a very influential club in the Champions League. Bayern Munich has tried its best to beat Real Madrid. The appearance of the Bayern Munich goalkeeper also appeared extraordinary, he protected Bayern's goal. Munich was very good even though Real Madrid had taken a lot of shots but still it didn't mean anything because in the end Real Madrid was able to break through that very strong defense in a short period of time. Real Madrid was very happy because they came back in the final again.
Yes, your statement is correct. Real Madrid is a regular in the Champions League final. By advancing to the final to face Dortmund, this will be the 18th top match for Madrid. Moreover, if they are able to bring home the trophy this season, it will be the 15th title in the club's history. Real Madrid's dominance in Europe will be increasingly difficult for any club to compete with.

I cannot deny that Real Madrid is the only European team to have won 14 Champions League titles in the history of the competition. Real Madrid have also dominated the Champions League title in the last 10 seasons and they have 5 titles in that time, in fact this season they have a big chance of getting their 6th since 2014.

So far, no other team in Europe has been able to win the same number of titles as Real Madrid. Which is one of the reasons why many people flock to become Real Madrid fans compared to others. I obviously like the La Liga team's style of play even though I am a fan of tiki taka or short passing game strategies, so I know who is the favorite to win the title this season.
Borrusia Dortmund managed to reach the final round after eliminating Paris Saint Germain who were more favorites in the semifinals. However, they still have to be alert because of Real Opponent Madrid has a strong history in the Champions League. Los Blancos have managed to win 14 Cup/Champions League titles throughout history, while Borussia Dortmund have only experienced the Champions League final three times and have only experienced the title once in the 1996-1997 season against Juventus. Not only that, Carlo Ancelotti, who plays the role of coach, also has an equally strong history. Don Carlo will be playing his 6th Champions League final in his career and he won 5 of them. But anything could happen in the final match. Borussia Dortmund's fighting spirit must be greater when facing a team with a strong history like Real Madrid.
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The match isn’t going to be an easy one, but I will say a higher percentage of people believe Real Madrid will win the match. If I am honest with you, I am among the people who think Real Madrid are going to win the Champions League. I am not underestimating Dortmund or saying their performance isn’t good, but I just have the feeling that Real Madrid will win the Champions League. I am more satisfied with Real Madrid pattern of play compared to Dortmund. We can’t just conclude yet who will win the match till it’s being played, but the match is going to be a difficult one for both Dortmund and Real Madrid.
Atletico Madrid is a strong team, but Dortmund was able to beat them in the semifinals. The atmosphere of the Champions League final will make both teams equally under pressure, a balance of support from visitors is also expected so that both teams will fight for their fate without taking sides.

Real Madrid have a lot of final experience, they are the kings of the Champions League title, but who will guarantee that they win it this season?
Even if Real Madrid's chances are very high, the risk of defeat is still there and it should not be ignored. It is not always possible for Real Madrid to maintain its finals record by winning the title, it is possible to see Real Madrid succumb to other teams from a probability point of view.
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This is going to be the final of the Champions League competition. Let’s be honest everyone is expecting that Real Madrid is going to beat Dortmund pretty easily in the final of the Champions League.
The match isn’t going to be an easy one, but I will say a higher percentage of people believe Real Madrid will win the match. If I am honest with you, I am among the people who think Real Madrid are going to win the Champions League. I am not underestimating Dortmund or saying their performance isn’t good, but I just have the feeling that Real Madrid will win the Champions League. I am more satisfied with Real Madrid pattern of play compared to Dortmund. We can’t just conclude yet who will win the match till it’s being played, but the match is going to be a difficult one for both Dortmund and Real Madrid.
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Something is meant to be believed based on signs and the performance of a team, but to be sincere, I have never put it in mind that Dortmund will make it to the final, where they are now. and still, I have a higher belief in Real Madrid than Dortmund when it comes to who will go home with the trophy, so don't even bother much because, based on my belief, I don't think Dortmund will make it and win the trophy, even though they have a concrete defense. I know they will still lose it to the final, and what people need to understand is that Real Madrid are not PSG. If Dortmund made it against PSG, that doesn't mean they will still have that on Real Madrid, so let's wait and witness the game. But no matter what, I will never think that Real Madrid will lose the trophy.
I agree with you, Dortmund is not one of the favorite teams to reach the final when there are 8 teams in the quarter-finals. Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and PSG tend to be favorites to get to the final, but Dortmund have proven that they can overcome all the challenges. Barcelona, ​​Atletico Madrid and PSG failed in the end, but Dortmund has great potential to fail in the final when the opponent is Real Madrid.

I am very optimistic about Real Madrid's chances at final. Real Madrid have never lost in a Champions League final apart from the 1962, 1964, 1981 seasons, meaning they have won 14 titles from the 17 finals they have played in. Real Madrid will try hard to win their 15th title in the Champions League this season, they have a big chance and if they get it then big bonuses for all players and staff are worth giving.
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Yes, the end of the match was simply amazing, but there are still questions for the referee, despite the fact that he added so much extra time that actually equals a whole in overtime, he made a mistake that put Real into the final and gave Bayern no chance. We're talking about offside, which as it turned out in the aftermath was wrongly determined, but he didn't even bother to review the moment. I'm a bit annoyed that Real's referee often decides everything, and I don't think I'm the only one who gets annoyed by it.
Behind Real Madrid's progress to the final, there are a number of questions regarding the neutrality of the referee's leadership in this game. Overall, the referee's bias towards Real Madrid was not apparent, but there were several decisions from the referee that were very detrimental to Bayern Munich. The referee's most controversial decision was when Bayern Munich scored the equalizing goal through Matthijs De Ligt kick in the 90+13th minute. If you look at the replay, the goal was valid because not a single Bayern Munich player was caught offside.

The referee should not be able to ignore the rules in making decisions regarding Offside and the line referee does not need to rush to raise the flag as a sign of offside because if it is considered that the incident is still unclear, there will be VAR which can help the referee make a fair decision without harming any party. This incident reminds me of when Real Madrid beat Barcelona in El Clasico some time ago when the referee did not review Var on the goal scored by Lamine Yamal, but whatever happened on the pitch the result of the match could not be changed and Real Madrid managed to qualify for the final.

Unfortunately yes, no one reviewed and it is obvious that after the match the result and especially the goal will not be reviewed, what is done is done. But I wouldn't be surprised if a similar situation happens in the final, the referees are very often on RM's side, let's see what happens, I will support Borussia one way or another
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You are right. I just remembered that Bellingham originally came from Dortmund from 2020 until last season. And yes, this will be a match that will bring Bellingham together with his former colleagues on the field. but this time Bellingham will be the opponent for all his former colleagues at Dortmund. This will be very interesting. But when Belllingham was at Dortmund he was not very productive. But after joining Real Madrid, Bellingham became very productive. At Dortmund he only scored 12 goals in 3 seasons. But at Real Madrid Bellingham has scored more than 20 goals if I remember correctly.

I see that there are a lot of Madrid players who will definitely face their former team in the UCL, but indeed every Madrid player's mentality is in place to be a player with a steel mentality and not get carried away by their feelings when facing their former team, Madrid is a team that will definitely be UCL champions this season, their chances are very big and that cannot be denied.
There is this one effect of football which I don't like and that is the fact that when it's very clear that someone is supposed to win and then the whole thing switches over a single minute and believe I have seen so many times this has happened but I don't know about Madrid because their winning mentality is just something else and if they get the to score first in that game then I think there is nothing can do.
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The chances of victory are greater for Real Madrid because they have experience, good squad strength both in the domestic league and the big league, they are much more consistent from the matches they have played this season, some analysts are more doubtful about Dortmund because they are not so experienced in the Champion league and they are not consistent in the Bundes league, of course this is one of the parameters that can be assessed, besides that, the popularity of Real Madrid is much greater than Dortmund, so there must be more who make it the favorite team, as well as Real Madrid players have many popular players, not the same as Dortmund players, so it is very reasonable to consider Dortmund a team that is still Under Dog.

When you are doing something you are used to doing everyday and you encountered a difficulty at one stage, what helps must of the time is your past experience and that's what Real Madrid has, so many of the players that were present in that semi final has experience semi final many times, Modric has literally been in most of the title Real Madrid has won and some new players are just determined to win. I look at the story of Joselu how he came to support Real Madrid in 2022 when he wasn't there yet in the club and see the incredible come back he gave Real Madrid against Bayern Munich.

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By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.


Real Madrid can beat Dortmund hands down but there is this rumors going about Lunin going to be change with Cortois. I don't if this is true or rumor or perhaps Anceloti is trying to confused Cortois with them, I don't know but I think I prefer Lunin continue what he has started since the team has been winning all this while, he should take the credit for the golden glove.
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You are right. I just remembered that Bellingham originally came from Dortmund from 2020 until last season. And yes, this will be a match that will bring Bellingham together with his former colleagues on the field. but this time Bellingham will be the opponent for all his former colleagues at Dortmund. This will be very interesting. But when Belllingham was at Dortmund he was not very productive. But after joining Real Madrid, Bellingham became very productive. At Dortmund he only scored 12 goals in 3 seasons. But at Real Madrid Bellingham has scored more than 20 goals if I remember correctly.

I see that there are a lot of Madrid players who will definitely face their former team in the UCL, but indeed every Madrid player's mentality is in place to be a player with a steel mentality and not get carried away by their feelings when facing their former team, Madrid is a team that will definitely be UCL champions this season, their chances are very big and that cannot be denied.
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After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a  goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.

Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.

Something is meant to be believed based on signs and the performance of a team, but to be sincere, I have never put it in mind that Dortmund will make it to the final, where they are now. and still, I have a higher belief in Real Madrid than Dortmund when it comes to who will go home with the trophy, so don't even bother much because, based on my belief, I don't think Dortmund will make it and win the trophy, even though they have a concrete defense. I know they will still lose it to the final, and what people need to understand is that Real Madrid are not PSG. If Dortmund made it against PSG, that doesn't mean they will still have that on Real Madrid, so let's wait and witness the game. But no matter what, I will never think that Real Madrid will lose the trophy.
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