Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 8. (Read 130414 times)

Even the odds makers are doubtful especially for us as gamblers, hahaha.

The chances of victory are greater for Real Madrid because they have experience, good squad strength both in the domestic league and the big league, they are much more consistent from the matches they have played this season, some analysts are more doubtful about Dortmund because they are not so experienced in the Champion league and they are not consistent in the Bundes league, of course this is one of the parameters that can be assessed, besides that, the popularity of Real Madrid is much greater than Dortmund, so there must be more who make it the favorite team, as well as Real Madrid players have many popular players, not the same as Dortmund players, so it is very reasonable to consider Dortmund a team that is still Under Dog.

By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.

This is going to be the final of the Champions League competition. Let’s be honest everyone is expecting that Real Madrid is going to beat Dortmund pretty easily in the final of the Champions League. Of course, it is very understandable because Real Madrid is the best Champions League team that there is in the world. But I think we should not underestimate Dortmund at all. they have proved everyone wrong in these Champions League matches. Because nobody actually gave them any chance to be in the final of the Champions League in the first place. Nobody even thought that they will even reach the semifinals. But now we have the finals between these two teams. So I think it is not going to be a good idea to underestimate Dortmund. And this is the final of the Champions League competition. Any surprise can happen in this match.

I agree, there is no comparison between these two teams as both are coming from different conditions and atmosphere and Real Madrid is having good experience and quality for the final game as they are going to win this title just after one year and Borussia Dortmund is having third final of their all career in soccer which is telling all story of these teams which are going to compete in final.

We all know how inconsistent is this UEFA events with any team on match day can bring surprising performance and can win the game as we have in semifinal and then in Europa League games where we have loses for the big teams drastically currently we are having Carlos Ancelotti as one of the best coach who is doing amazing decisions which are giving him good results and success, so things are clearly favourable for the Real Madrid but still it's going to be interesting game.

Real Madrid is without a doubt the best team in this game. They've been playing very hard and know how to win. Dont give up on Dortmund just yet, though. Their spirit is strong, and they'll fight whenever they can. You should also think about Bellingham! He is going to look crazy when he fights his old friends. He was good when he played for Dortmund, but now he's a beast at Real. This fight gets a whole new level. I think this final will be very exciting. Lets take it easy and hope for a great fight

This is not new that Real Madrid team are always favored by the officials. They're a good team quite alright, and they play really well, but the  favors they keep getting from official makes their games less interesting for me. That very act from the officials against Bayern made me leave the viewing center because once again I'm watching a slightly manipulated game and not a competition that it should be, nonetheless the Bayern coach really gambled that match. He removed strikers who maintained pressure on the real Madrid defense and midfield, replacing them with defenders and thereby weakening the Bayern forward. This singular act encouraged the the Madrid team to launch full offensive without fear of being compromise and they surely achieved their aim. A big lesson to T. Tuchel.

Borussia Dortmund have shown enough strength and capability in the UEFA Champions League to for us to consider them as a serious contender for the European Cup title this season and that's why I think it's absolutely valid for fans of the German club to dream of a UEFA Champions League trophy at the end of the season. After eliminating French champions Paris Saint Germaine, Borussia Dortmund qualifed to play in the final of the competition before Real Madrid confirmed their spot as Dortmund's opponent in the final.
Real Madrid without doubt is arguably the most star studded team in Europe at the moment and that's majority of the people including bookmakers are backing them to defeat their German opponents Borussia Dortmund and win the European Cup when the two teams meet at the Wembley stadium in June 1st. As a Real Madrid fan, I'm very confident that Real Madrid is going to come out from the game victoriously.

The final will be held at Wembley on June 2, the final is still going on for quite a long time and of course it gives a lot of time for both teams to prepare and improve the mentality and performance of the squads of both teams before they compete, for now of course Madrid is the favorite of many people to win the Champions League trophy,  But should Dortmund be underestimated in the final match later?
I think for the final match there are no favourites , because so far both teams have shown their ability to overcome and get through every pressure from the group stage to the semi-finals, now we said Madrid will be able to win over Dortmund  but as if we don't know how hard they fought to reach the final this season.

You mean when Madrid came back when they beat Bayern Munich?
If you make that the match as a reference to favorite madrid of course not quite right, madrid is one goal behind Munich and Tuchel made a mistake by removing Kane and chose to stay defend with 1 goal ahead, I think it was Tuchel mistake that made Madrid comeback so I think if Munich continued to play as usual in the match of course Munich had a greater chance of reaching the final,  Especially if the referee wants to check VAR after de Light goal is disallowed, because indeed those of us who watch at home also know if De Light is in an onside position, but despite it all, I think Dortmund have learned from Munich in the semi-final yesterday and they certainly will not repeat it at Wembley later. 

Yes, I also feel confident, towards Real Madrid. They have a greater chance of winning. Player statistics and their game history show they are superior. But Dortmund seem to be working hard to make history, Dormund having reached the Final in 2013. But they lost, it seems that this will make their motivation double.

I do agree that ignoring that rule was something that made Bayern lose, maybe that was an offside for real and maybe it wasn't we would never know but the thing is that we are going to end up with always doubting this. In the end I feel like Real was the better team anyway, so as a fan of the game I like to see Real Madrid at the top and at the finals. To be fair a German finals would have been fine too.

It is really so awesome to keep seeing every league there, we have seen Inter last year, City last year, Real this year, Dortmund this year, so that is four leagues that got represented in just 2 years. It is usually boring when the same teams always eb in the finals back to back, don't get me wrong it is usually same big teams, I just want them to rotate between each other.

Bayern Munich's efforts against Real Madrid in the second leg of the semi-final match did look quite good and it must be acknowledged by Bayern Munich fans themselves that the team's efforts in winning the match were clearly visible. However, it is true as you said that Bayern Munich did not have enough luck to win this match so Bayern Munich had to go home with high honor even though they had failed to qualify for the Champions League final this season.

Yeah Bayern Munich have played as hard as possible it's just that they haven't been lucky, 2 factors that helped Real Madrid win the match. The first is the mentality of players who never give up and this is related to capable experience and the second is that luck is on their side. However, Real Madrid deserved to go to the final, but I actually didn't expect  for Dortmund because previously I thought PSG would go to the final, this is a fact that cannot be denied that in a tournament surprises can happen.

As we know Dortmund is not the favorite team they are always at the bottom in all predictions. In the final we know that Real Madrid is again the favorite team but will Dortmund bring another surprise this season? well, we will wait for this and when it reaches the final then the chance of each team is no more than 60% I mean we can assume Real Madrid 60% and Dortmund 40% meaning surprises are always waiting.

I also watched the match and observed some behind-the-scenes debates about mistakes by players, coaches, referees, etc. But maybe everything is over and we should move on to the final match upcoming ending.

Regarding BY vs RM, imo RM deserved to win more because they also played well but after all, this is football where it is impossible to please all fans, and people will still find all kinds of different reason to justify their point of view.

I also really like BY this season, and they are still the top football club in my mind, but perhaps this season their opponents have performed better, after all. Brand is the goal, but if not yet, we will try in the future.

Final - no home game it will be a special match outside their home ground and currently Wembley is the chosen...

What you're saying is I don't think Real Madrid will have any trouble beating Dortmund, we know the semi-final where Real Madrid were a goal down until the 87th minute but once they got their heads together they turned it around to win for Los Blancos, their mentality is unquestionable.

Who wouldn't bet on Real Madrid as the favorite? I would bet on Real Madrid but for now I don't see what the odds are except the odds of winning the UCL.

There must be a lot of people betting their way, obviously we know which one to bet on even if it's not a 1X2 bet.

Bayern Munich almost won against Real Madrid but due to some mistakes by the referee and not being able to protect the defense well at the end, Bayan Munich lost in the very end of the match. Although Bayern Munich failed to qualify for the finals, the Munich fans must have been satisfied with the performance of Bayern Munich this season. At the end of the match I saw the fans welcome the players by clapping and the players also accepted the cheers from the fans. Bayan Munich had no shortage of effort in the match against Real Madrid but luck did not help this team at all and Bayan Munich was defeated by that luck. If there is a wrong decision from the referee in such an important match then it is normal to fall back there.

That's a good point. Real tends to perform better at home, earning, on average +0.41 more points in home games than in away matches. For the Dortmund, that metric is at 0.00, meaning it didn't make much difference whether they played home or away.
Sources:
La Liga: https://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=spain
Bundesliga: https://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=germany


I think it could be a good value bet for anyone, not only the Dortmund fans. To me, some of the factors included in calculating those odds are the fact that Real is simply a bigger brand and that more people expect them to win.

And there is one more thing to take into account here: it is not a home game for Real Madrid. It's a game in a fantastic stadium and Dortmund will have an equal number of amazing fans. It is a very different situation and if Dortmund can avoid easy mistakes, giving away goals for free, then Real Madrid will have a hard time to beat Dortmund in regular time. But at the same time Real Madrid is hard to beat.

Whether the odds are well chosen, probably too much of a favorite role for Real Madrid? But I think the oddsmakers are themselves confused that Real Madrid just doesn't lose no matter what. Maybe for the Dortmund fans this could be a great opportunity to place some money, enjoy an amazing day and then get a nice return if they win it.

Interesting picture and reflects the situation well. Tuchel's substitutions in the match with Real are really unclear, because the players who came on as substitutes were clearly weaker than those who were replaced and did Tuchel think that one goal would be enough to keep the victory in the match with Real? It's a big mystery. Also a big mystery is the behavior of Bayern players after the goal against Real, namely when Bayern players tried to drag out the game, lay on the lawn for a long time, but all this does not work after the referees began to add 10-15 minutes to the main time. It's as if the players played the match not in 2024 but in 2014 and don't know the new rules.

In general, we can say that Bayern themselves first opened the way to the final, when Neuer reflected all the attacks that were and on their only counterattack that they had, Bayern scored a goal and then Bayern themselves with their play and substitutions let Real into the final of the Champions League.

I think any team that can qualify for the final round can be considered a strong team, including Borussia Dortmund. They were able to come this far because of effort and clearly, that cannot be taken for granted. Borussia Dortmund does not have a squad as flashy as Real Madrid but it still cannot be denied that they can play as a team that has solid teamwork.

Talking about opportunities, of course, Real Madrid is still the favorite because they have had a fairly consistent performance this season, and in my opinion, there is one advantage of Real Madrid that Borussia Dortmund may not currently have, and that is a winning mentality.

You are right. Madrid's opponents were very strong. Madrid performed well in every match, which is why they managed to qualify for the final. On the other hand, Dortmund's opponents were relatively weak. This is why I would say that comparing Real Madrid and Dortmund is foolish. Undoubtedly, Real Madrid is strong. But I repeat that we have seen many times in the past on the platform of Champions League, the underdog teams win.

It is true that Dortmund team is not stronger than Madrid. However, there is no room to underestimate the Dortmund team. Let's not forget the Chelsea vs Manchester City final. We considered Manchester City as the favourites, but Chelsea won the title. For this reason alone I would say there is no chance of underestimating this Dortmund team at the moment.

There's no reason to blame Bayern. All of the club's elements have been performing so excellently in the game against real madrid and they are trying to release full potential. Tuchel has done everything he can to help Bayern Munich qualify for the final, but I must admit that this is the worst time for them when they must let real madrid goes to the final. Vini's strong shoot could not be smoothly blocked by neuer. It helps madrid to score the first goal. neuer has been doing his best but he was failed to do that.

It was deflected just as Joselu was about to score Real Madrid's first goal and im sure neuer never expect that if it was happening and i think that bayern has given a tough game for real madrid. All of the Bayern Munich players have no winning mentalities and yet again they have not reached the point where they are winning.