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August 09, 2023, 04:58:06 PM

A high salary is apparently not as valuable to him as playing for the club he has dreamed of since childhood. The fact that they are treating him like this now I think will only make it worse for the team, because in the Champions League without him it will be very difficult for them, unlike in the French league. If they make it out of the group stage, they are unlikely to go far without him

Do you know what the reason is for Mbappe to more or less boycott everything? It is not PSG, it is Mbappe who wants the massive bonus for the new season while he wants to leave the club at the same time. But you have to understand that this is a bonus he would get when he stays. His plan is to get PSG to pay him his bonus and also to let him go because otherwise they would lose the total transfer fee if he stays another year. That is his calculation. If Real goes up with the price, PSG could take a chunk of that money and also pay him a bonus he never deserved. Maybe it is not as idealistic as you think as if he just wants to go to the club he has been dreaming of since his childhood but now his bosses destroy his dream.

Yes, Mbappe is obviously a cynic, and all the fairy tales in 2023 about "my favorite club since childhood, etc." it's not even funny anymore. But he is in his right, he fulfills the contract and there can be no claims against him. PSG is another matter - they paid him for something, but they are trying to pressure him to get more from him than he was obliged to do. This is both unethical and somewhat illegal.
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August 09, 2023, 04:46:58 PM
The performance from united and arsenal are still questionable at this moment. The opening match of EPL has not yet commenced. We don't know how good arsenal and MU right now in the real match.

And still when the premier league starts it'll not determine if Arsenal and Manchester united will be good at the champions league because this are two different league, with different atmosphere. I don't trust both clubs to be able to represent the premier league effectively at the big stages, I would had preferred Liverpool and Chelsea but they were awful last season and lucky Chelsea didn't get eliminated from the premier league talk more of competing in the champions league. It's been long Arsenal played at the champions league so I don't expect them to start off with dominating performance but I wish them the best.

In the transfer window this summer, the Mbappe transfer saga is truly a drama saga that really drains the attention of football lovers. IMO, even if Mbappe stays with PSG for the next season, he will still be played. for me, it will not make a big contribution. so, it would be ideal if PSG got rid of star players who are difficult to manage. thus, Luis can build a new foundation for his squad. Even with Neymar, I think this player can still contribute if he stays with PSG. well, if PSG wants to be competitive in this competition. enrique must find a creative top midfielder. at least, despite losing two of its stars at once. PSG still has competitive substitutes.

PSG didn't think twice before giving Mbappe all the benefits they gave him when renewing his contract last year when those with experience were speaking against the privilege the young players was receiving, many thought they were been jealous but we can see how things are playing out. No matter how the deal goes PSG will be regretting even giving Mbappe a platform to get the whole attention he has gotten and this transfer saga is just making him more popular and whoever finally buys him will benefit from all the publicity this transfer saga is giving to him.
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August 09, 2023, 04:31:43 PM
Surely Hojlund is burdened with a very crucial role for next season because he is Erik Ten Hag hope for the front line of the Red Devils this season. Now it's not too good to compare these two players with their level of ability to make a big contribution to the team they are defending.
Yes, Man United really had high hopes for Hojlund, especially with the money they spent to bring him in. And it is hoped that he will bring big changes to Man United's performance in the future. And it seems that Ten Hag is also optimistic about this. It's time for Hojlund to prove his work and professionalism again at his new club.

Haaland is at the same level as Vini and also Mbappe, currently these three players are strong candidates as the best player every year. Rasmus Hojlund still needs quite a long time to be side by side with Haaland
For Haaland and also for Mbappe, I agree that they are level. They played brilliantly at their club. Even Mbapppe also played very well when he brought his national team to the world cup. However, I'm not sure about Vini. You could say it's still too much for him if he's on the same level as Haaland and Mbappe.
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August 09, 2023, 03:57:01 PM
Well, like i said in my previous post, PSV destroy easily Sturm Graz in his home, so they can play the away game much more relaxed. And again like i anticipated Olimpique Marseille cant overtook easy Panatinaikos, i dont know why Marseille strug so much in european matches agains weakers teams, i think theya re gonna pass however.

I other things they have a really good team for this season.
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August 09, 2023, 03:55:19 PM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.

Truly that this is a situation that PSG has never wanted before regarding its best player. Kylian Mbappe had to leave in an unexpected way and he has really disappointed many in France with his attitude. I know he has big ambitions in his career, but he shouldn't have to turn things bad at the end of his journey. Even if PSG have to sell him, then I'm sure no farewell words will be spoken throughout the stadium. The team and some of the fans are fed up with him, it's because of his big ambition to out from Paris with outside encouragement.
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August 09, 2023, 03:52:18 PM

A high salary is apparently not as valuable to him as playing for the club he has dreamed of since childhood. The fact that they are treating him like this now I think will only make it worse for the team, because in the Champions League without him it will be very difficult for them, unlike in the French league. If they make it out of the group stage, they are unlikely to go far without him

Do you know what the reason is for Mbappe to more or less boycott everything? It is not PSG, it is Mbappe who wants the massive bonus for the new season while he wants to leave the club at the same time. But you have to understand that this is a bonus he would get when he stays. His plan is to get PSG to pay him his bonus and also to let him go because otherwise they would lose the total transfer fee if he stays another year. That is his calculation. If Real goes up with the price, PSG could take a chunk of that money and also pay him a bonus he never deserved. Maybe it is not as idealistic as you think as if he just wants to go to the club he has been dreaming of since his childhood but now his bosses destroy his dream.
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August 09, 2023, 03:46:04 PM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.
It is almost certain that Mbappe will leave PSG but he is not leaving this season, he will stay with PSG for one more season and then leave PSG. Since Mbappe will be seen with PSG for one more season, it is not right for PSG to remove Mbappe from everything so early. Perhaps PSG management is behaving like this towards Mbappe because of anger or contempt towards Mbappe. Mbappe was highly valued by PSG and was declared one of the most powerful players by PSG. Mbappé is going to leave PSG ignoring these things such as high salary and adequate facilities. PSG management may not be able to accept this, which is why they are removing Mbappé from everywhere before Mbappé leaves. With such a bad relationship with PSG, it is now to be seen how Mbappe stays at PSG for one more season.

A high salary is apparently not as valuable to him as playing for the club he has dreamed of since childhood. The fact that they are treating him like this now I think will only make it worse for the team, because in the Champions League without him it will be very difficult for them, unlike in the French league. If they make it out of the group stage, they are unlikely to go far without him
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August 09, 2023, 03:06:25 PM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.

If so, it is for common policy. with Mbapoe leaving, there will no longer be polemics between the PSG and Mbappe camps. because, the only win-win solution is the departure of Mbappe in this season's transfer window. only issue is whether Madrid will make any bids towards the end of this summer's transfer window. if so, it's not just PSG who are saved. However, it is certain that Madrid will have a sharp striker this season without having to wait for his contract to expire in 2024. But if the opposite happens, Madrid will stick with its stance not to bring in any other strikers besides Joselu. So you can be sure that Mbappe will lose playing minutes until his contract expires in June 2024.

In the transfer window this summer, the Mbappe transfer saga is truly a drama saga that really drains the attention of football lovers. IMO, even if Mbappe stays with PSG for the next season, he will still be played. for me, it will not make a big contribution. so, it would be ideal if PSG got rid of star players who are difficult to manage. thus, Luis can build a new foundation for his squad. Even with Neymar, I think this player can still contribute if he stays with PSG. well, if PSG wants to be competitive in this competition. enrique must find a creative top midfielder. at least, despite losing two of its stars at once. PSG still has competitive substitutes.
Dembele could more than cover from the midfield seeing to the conclusion of a transfer from Barca to PSG.
The issue with Mbappe is a normal player-club issue, where the player wants to leave, but the club ain't done with 'em yet. Worst is if Mbappe gets to stay till 2024, he might just become another player with regular start from the bench, and it might affect his performance.
I would love to still see Mbappe playing for PSG with Neymar and Dembele starting, but building a formidable team at this time for Enrique, might be just plain genius.
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August 09, 2023, 03:02:01 PM
First leg games of the third qualifying round almost finished with many surprises.
AEK Athens match vs Dinamo Zagreb was postponed after the death of one supporter outside of the stadium.. Not clear what will happen later but so many supporters were arrested by police.
Aris Limassol and Marseille lost their games away with 1 goal difference so they might have a chance in the second leg. Copenhagen got a draw home, not good for them.
Otherwise PSV Eindhoven, Braga and Galatasaray won big with 3 goals difference each making them almost qualified. There is 2 other games running right now with 2-1 for Haifa and Rangers.
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August 09, 2023, 02:51:58 PM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.

If so, it is for common policy. with Mbapoe leaving, there will no longer be polemics between the PSG and Mbappe camps. because, the only win-win solution is the departure of Mbappe in this season's transfer window. only issue is whether Madrid will make any bids towards the end of this summer's transfer window. if so, it's not just PSG who are saved. However, it is certain that Madrid will have a sharp striker this season without having to wait for his contract to expire in 2024. But if the opposite happens, Madrid will stick with its stance not to bring in any other strikers besides Joselu. So you can be sure that Mbappe will lose playing minutes until his contract expires in June 2024.

In the transfer window this summer, the Mbappe transfer saga is truly a drama saga that really drains the attention of football lovers. IMO, even if Mbappe stays with PSG for the next season, he will still be played. for me, it will not make a big contribution. so, it would be ideal if PSG got rid of star players who are difficult to manage. thus, Luis can build a new foundation for his squad. Even with Neymar, I think this player can still contribute if he stays with PSG. well, if PSG wants to be competitive in this competition. enrique must find a creative top midfielder. at least, despite losing two of its stars at once. PSG still has competitive substitutes.
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August 09, 2023, 02:51:17 PM
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.
It's unfortunate how PSG is managing the situation given that Mbappe has always been dedicated to them and has previously turned down an offer to join Real Madrid. Now that he wants to go on and take on new challenges, his decision should be honoured, and he should be permitted to do so. For several years running, he has led the team in goals scored and has contributed greatly to its success. Why do clubs operate in this manner? If a club continues to act in this manner, players will be even more motivated to leave because they are not bound to any particular club and are free to leave whenever they like.
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August 09, 2023, 02:50:24 PM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.

Nasser Al Khelaifi wants to sell Mbappe even earlier. But Mbappe will not leave the club. By deleting the picture of Mbappe in the stadium, Nasser Al Khelaifi has hinted that he will no longer include Mbappe in the squad. However, if Mbappe wants to stay at the club it would be a shame. I don't know why a star player like Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG after being so humiliated. Clubs like Real Madrid and Liverpool are interested in Mbappe. They will pay high wages. However, they are not getting any response from Mbappe. However, Nasser Al Khelaifi has made it clear that Mbappe will not be in the squad next season.
Let's think clearly when Kylian Mbappe still has a contract with Paris SG even though Mbappe wants to leave but when his contract is still valid Mbappe can't do anything except next season when Kylian Mbappe's contract is up and that's the right time for Mbappe to open his voice where he will go and most likely to Bayern munchen or Real madrid.
The two big clubs who want Kylian Mbappe to strengthen their chances of getting the Champions League trophy in the coming season but it will be a bit difficult will have to wait at least a year.
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August 09, 2023, 02:49:14 PM
Galatasaray holds a comfortable 3-0 lead from the away game. The performance from galatasaray was far better compared when it was facing Zalgiris in the previous match. Galatasaray was dominating the game from the first second.  Despite several good attacks, Olimpija could not break Galatasaray's defence. The defensive line of galatasaray was really solid during the game.  Olimpija needs a miracle to eliminate Galatasaray in the second leg.
I agree that Olimpija needs a miracle to beat Galatasaray in Istanbul, but I don't think Galatasaray's defense is very good. Galatasaray defender made many mistakes and goalkeeper Muslera and Olimpija forwards faced each other in many positions. Lucky for them, they could not take advantage of these positions against Galatasaray. We can see a similar score in the second game.
Miracles are hard for Olimpija to get in the second leg after they were defeated by Galatasaray in the first leg with a big score, especially since the second leg will be played at the Galatasaray headquarters. Galatasaray will continue its dominance over Olimpija in the second leg, the strength that Galatasaray has is very difficult to match with Olimpija after seeing the two teams meet in the first leg.
Olimpija will certainly exert all his abilities when playing in the second leg. Maybe Galatasaray made a mistake at their own base due to the defender's lack of discipline in guarding the defense which made Olimpija win in the second leg but it will be difficult for them to score 4 goals at Galatasaray headquarters.
Galatasaray definitely had a great win without a doubt, and I think that they are going to have easier time on the second game as well. Not only they will be able to play at home which will be better for them but they are going to end up with a situation where they will end up with a win one way or another.

So long story short it is going to be something they can play all their players in and they are going to end up playing at home, I do not see how they could lose that one. Plus, they had 2 goals as well that was offside, so they were even better scoring then normal. I hope they do win because I am going to put on a hefty bet on their win since I believe there is no way they would lose this game, even a tie is not possible.
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August 09, 2023, 02:45:52 PM
Out of 5 teams or 4 Champions League matches like I will lose one match, Panathinaikos vs Marseille this match has been running for 80 minutes but no goals and unfortunately Marseille had to play with 10 players after Kondogbia was sent off in the 65th minute meaning there was no chance for Marseille to score. Meanwhile Gent and Ranger have made it through the first half with wins, I was really waiting for a miracle to win lol.


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August 09, 2023, 02:45:06 PM
I guess I overestimated Marseille. This away game was very bad even without a red card. They didn't have many shots but got a lot of cards, as a result one red card. I think that in the home game they will not make such mistakes and will win the match. This match was the only surprise for me today.
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August 09, 2023, 01:16:29 PM
I think Galatasaray does not need a deal with the solid defender. I think Galatasaray need to sign a credible midfielder instead like Parades, Fred. Because Ljubljana forwards were so ccomfortable about making it to the box because of the absence of Lucas Torreira. Goalkeeper Muslera and Olimpija forwards have faced each other in many positions because of the absence of Lucas Torreira. If Galatasaray become another quality midfielder like Paredes or Fred, their opponents cannot so ccomfortable about making it to the box in the absence of Lucas Torreira.

I didn't like Nelsson's performance in this match. He was quite struggling with defending. Abdulkerim had some impressive moments on the other hand and he was nearly scoring a goal if the goalkeeper didn't make that save. I hope that it is just because of Nelsson's not being completely ready for the season. Otherwise maybe Galatasaray might really need another reliable centre-back. But before anything else I agree that they would make use of a defensive midfielder.

Fred and Paredes are currently transfer targets for them. One of them hopefully joins them soon.
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August 09, 2023, 12:26:48 PM
Galatasaray holds a comfortable 3-0 lead from the away game. The performance from galatasaray was far better compared when it was facing Zalgiris in the previous match. Galatasaray was dominating the game from the first second.  Despite several good attacks, Olimpija could not break Galatasaray's defence. The defensive line of galatasaray was really solid during the game.  Olimpija needs a miracle to eliminate Galatasaray in the second leg.

Actually it was totally the opposite when it comes to Galatasaray defense. They were horrible in the first half especially. Ljubljana attackers were so comfortable about making it to the box. If it weren't for Muslera's important saves maybe even the result could have been way different than this.

The second half went very well for Galatasaray after making it 2-0 of course. But one thing is certain that Galatasaray would have been destroyed with this poor defending if they had a much more challenging opponent.

Maybe Galatasaray are likely to make it to the group stage but they need to work on their defending immediately. I think they should sign a credible defender thinking of the Champions League too.

I think Galatasaray does not need a deal with the solid defender. I think Galatasaray need to sign a credible midfielder instead like Parades, Fred. Because Ljubljana forwards were so ccomfortable about making it to the box because of the absence of Lucas Torreira. Goalkeeper Muslera and Olimpija forwards have faced each other in many positions because of the absence of Lucas Torreira. If Galatasaray become another quality midfielder like Paredes or Fred, their opponents cannot so ccomfortable about making it to the box in the absence of Lucas Torreira.
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August 09, 2023, 12:03:55 PM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.

Nasser Al Khelaifi wants to sell Mbappe even earlier. But Mbappe will not leave the club. By deleting the picture of Mbappe in the stadium, Nasser Al Khelaifi has hinted that he will no longer include Mbappe in the squad. However, if Mbappe wants to stay at the club it would be a shame. I don't know why a star player like Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG after being so humiliated. Clubs like Real Madrid and Liverpool are interested in Mbappe. They will pay high wages. However, they are not getting any response from Mbappe. However, Nasser Al Khelaifi has made it clear that Mbappe will not be in the squad next season.
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August 09, 2023, 11:51:52 AM
~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.
PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.
It is almost certain that Mbappe will leave PSG but he is not leaving this season, he will stay with PSG for one more season and then leave PSG. Since Mbappe will be seen with PSG for one more season, it is not right for PSG to remove Mbappe from everything so early. Perhaps PSG management is behaving like this towards Mbappe because of anger or contempt towards Mbappe. Mbappe was highly valued by PSG and was declared one of the most powerful players by PSG. Mbappé is going to leave PSG ignoring these things such as high salary and adequate facilities. PSG management may not be able to accept this, which is why they are removing Mbappé from everywhere before Mbappé leaves. With such a bad relationship with PSG, it is now to be seen how Mbappe stays at PSG for one more season.
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August 09, 2023, 11:44:48 AM
I'm looking forward to Panathiniakos vs Marseille. Although Marseille is the favorite, I expect them to struggle against Panathiniakos on the road. Marseille's offensive line is strong and I don't think they will have problems scoring goals.
Rangers, on the other hand, have to win against Servette. Servette is a team in form, but there is definitely a power difference between the two teams. I think there will be plenty of goals in the match and both teams will be eager to score.
I just remember that Marseille under new manager Marcelino García Toral still required more time to adapt and it showed from their pre season matches result that i have to says Marseille performance isn't too impressive under him and the latest is they had just lose from Bundesliga team Leverkusen so although Marseille is the favourite but i was a bit doubt they can able to beat Panathiniakos especially if we compared to recent performance from both teams i think Panathiniakos still slightly better than Marseille

At home Panathiniakos actually not too strong because some of teams can able to beat them and the latest is Rayo who can able to beat them with slim score and regarding this match Marseille is the favourite with odds @2.04 and Panathiniakos @3.75 but with the current performance from both teams which still not stable i personally more prefer to pick draw with odds @2.95 or just like you said both teams to scores seems good for this match
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