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Quote from: Adams0001 on August 08, 2023, 04:01:43 PM

Tottenham Hotspur do not want to sell Harry Kane. He is a key player for the club, and they will want him to play another season with them before selling him. I am confident that if he does not leave Tottenham, he will not be able to win any trophy in the club because the club lacks players and does not have the quality to compete in the league. If Bayern Munich acquires Harry Kane, I am confident that they will improve in the league and champions league and will be able to win the trophy. If he wants to win a trophy and other rewards, he must leave the club.

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Galatasaray was able to secure very nice win at away in qualifiers. Squad is getting better, more ready for this season which is good. I believe Galatasaray can go more and we may see them joining Group Stages after play-offs. Icardi is gonna play more with upcoming matches as he is getting ready for it. Holiday season finally ended. Congratulations to PSV as well with their clean win. Both of them are going to next round.

Olimpija is an easy opponent. Galatasaray was dominating the game from the first leg. The result from second leg was quite clear. Olimpija tried to threatening galatasaray's keeper so many times but it keeps failed.
I will actually put the next bet for galatasaray in the second leg. It's caused by galatasaray gonna be hosting the second leg against olimpija.

The winner for second leg will be galatasaray. Olimpija has huge aggregates to be surpassed in the second leg.

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In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

He is so insistent on this transfer request as he has witnessed what a scorer he is in the Premier League. The Tottenham president is making all kinds of excuses not to send Kane. If Kane wants to leave, there's no point in forcibly keeping him on the team. The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.

Mbappe is a player I am so disappointed with, what a big chance he had to join Real Madrid rather he turned down the offer and Real Madrid President was disappointed. Joining Madrid is a life time thing, you leave or stay the fans will forever hold you at heart.
Kylian Mbappe screwed things up I find it difficult to agree they will get him still but nothing gets to be impossible in the transfer window.
Harry Kane also should force his way out, Tottenham has kept him stagnant for so long. Another talented player that need leave is Son

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In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

He is so insistent on this transfer request as he has witnessed what a scorer he is in the Premier League. The Tottenham president is making all kinds of excuses not to send Kane. If Kane wants to leave, there's no point in forcibly keeping him on the team. The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 08, 2023, 06:25:14 PM

If Kane joins Bayern Munich in this season, he will get the chance to earn more achievements with Bayern Munich while he can never have the chance to win the Champions League title with Tottenham in this situation of this team, I think this transfer will help Harry Kane a lot.
Also, Tottenham can earn enough from this deal and spend the money to rebuild the team and race for the premier league while Bayer Munich can have a better performance in the next Champions League.

He's a good player at a bad club, that sounds very harsh but that's the truth, because so far when he has been loyal to this club, relatively the best achievement for Tottenham is the champions league final without ever winning, even in the Joan Gamper tournament today they still can't win because they lost to Barcelona even though it's not a prestigious tournament, moreover the champion league will increasingly look impossible for Tottenham to be able to win, moreover this season they won't have European competition, and players with abilities like Harry Kane shouldn't just play for domestic competition only.
For some reason it is very difficult for Bayern Munich to get him even the value submitted is high enough for player, because if Munich manages to get him then in the Champions League Kane will be able to help Munich to score goals because several seasons in the Champions League after winning last time Munich did not get such good results and it became even more difficult to compete when Lewandowski chose to join Barcelona.

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PSV has been locked their position to gets one place to group stage because yesterday they had won with huge scores 4-1 against FC Sturm and indeed this result is according to many people prediction that PSV without any problem can able to beat their opponent and playing as a host PSV has taking initiative to playing attacking since the beginning of match and it proven from their match statistics that PSV has 71% ball possession and 21 total of shots and it doesn't take long time for PSV to score because only in 4 minutes PSV can able to leading the game by Babadi goal and the situation will be more easy for them because at the first half PSV can leading 3-0 and on that match De Jong was being an man of the match because he can scores 2 goals and for second leg PSV will playing away at Sturm home ground on next Tuesday

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Quote from: marcous on August 08, 2023, 09:37:17 PM

I think this Kane transfer saga will impact the Tottenham squad if it drags on. This is not unlike Mbappe transfer which continues to stick out and continues to be associated with Madrid. Bayern Munchen offer has been rejected three times, meaning that Tottenham are prepared to lose their assets on a free transfer next season.

Most recently Tottenham lost 4-0 against Barcelona in the Joan Gamper Final, which interestingly left Kane out of action. Of course this is a strong reason why Kane is very useful at Tottenham, without his presence on the pitch Tottenham attack line looks normal.

The bad impact that will be experienced by Tottenham may be that Kane will not play optimally next season due to disappointment over Tottenham decision which seemed to hinder his departure to Bayern Munich. Another impact is that Tottenham are in danger of losing Kane for nothing when his contract expires next season.
Tottenham must be more realistic with Kane current situation, they cannot hold him any longer because his contract will expire soon. Kane will show his displeasure with Tottenham by not playing optimally if the transfer process fails. this attitude is a form of protest made by players when the club hinders his departure to a bigger club and can give him a chance to win a trophy.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 08, 2023, 08:41:47 PM

Ofcourse Harry Kane is probably not the only player that would boost the performance of the club, there's always a backup replacement for such good talents, not too difficult to avoid. Rejecting €100million from Bayern Munich, funds that would have been utilized in getting more talented players from the market. Tottenham Hotspur should try to employ new squad, the same way they keep sacking and appointing new managers, simple. The board keep making flimsy excuse for their incompetence to sign good players, keep restraining their old players, scared of losing them and decreasing in their performance.

Fatal mistake when rejecting €100 million offering bid from Bayern Munich because Harry Kane contract left one years and not easy for extending his contract with teams can't guarantee will play in Champion League. Never get second chance for selling Harry Kane with the same values €100 million next season because he will be 31 years old and Bayern Munich possibility sign new striker in this season after failure with Harry Kane.

I don't think with Bayern Munich will open third proposal for signing Harry Kane after €80 million and €100 million are rejecting by Tottenham Hotspur. Thomas Tuchel have pressure so hard for signing Harry Kane but still failed without reach agreement deal with Tottenham Hotspur, its disappointed because Bayern Munich sold Sadio Mane and can't signing new replacement for position left.

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Galatasaray was able to secure very nice win at away in qualifiers. Squad is getting better, more ready for this season which is good. I believe Galatasaray can go more and we may see them joining Group Stages after play-offs. Icardi is gonna play more with upcoming matches as he is getting ready for it. Holiday season finally ended. Congratulations to PSV as well with their clean win. Both of them are going to next round.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 08, 2023, 08:41:47 PM

Quote from: harapan on August 08, 2023, 03:46:18 PM

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

Ofcourse Harry Kane is probably not the only player that would boost the performance of the club, there's always a backup replacement for such good talents, not too difficult to avoid. Rejecting €100million from Bayern Munich, funds that would have been utilized in getting more talented players from the market. Tottenham Hotspur should try to employ new squad, the same way they keep sacking and appointing new managers, simple. The board keep making flimsy excuse for their incompetence to sign good players, keep restraining their old players, scared of losing them and decreasing in their performance.

I think this Kane transfer saga will impact the Tottenham squad if it drags on. This is not unlike Mbappe transfer which continues to stick out and continues to be associated with Madrid. Bayern Munchen offer has been rejected three times, meaning that Tottenham are prepared to lose their assets on a free transfer next season.

Most recently Tottenham lost 4-0 against Barcelona in the Joan Gamper Final, which interestingly left Kane out of action. Of course this is a strong reason why Kane is very useful at Tottenham, without his presence on the pitch Tottenham attack line looks normal.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 08, 2023, 08:41:47 PM

Ofcourse Harry Kane is probably not the only player that would boost the performance of the club, there's always a backup replacement for such good talents, not too difficult to avoid.

Harry Kane is a very good striker and he has played at world class level many recent years. The striker is like a quick guarantee of success for great clubs but there is a big risk that after a few seasons, Harry Kane might considerably lose his best performance when his age is more than 34 or 35. However, having a player who can help a team to win titles in like 2 or 3 seasons is very worth to take risk.

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Rejecting €100million from Bayern Munich, funds that would have been utilized in getting more talented players from the market. Tottenham Hotspur should try to employ new squad, the same way they keep sacking and appointing new managers, simple. The board keep making flimsy excuse for their incompetence to sign good players, keep restraining their old players, scared of losing them and decreasing in their performance.

I think Tottenham will sell Harry Kane when they receive a price they want. It's just they have yet seen their wanted price and Levy is trying to bargain for a better price to sell a brightest star player in Tottenham Hotspur.

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Quote from: harapan on August 08, 2023, 03:46:18 PM

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

Ofcourse Harry Kane is probably not the only player that would boost the performance of the club, there's always a backup replacement for such good talents, not too difficult to avoid. Rejecting €100million from Bayern Munich, funds that would have been utilized in getting more talented players from the market. Tottenham Hotspur should try to employ new squad, the same way they keep sacking and appointing new managers, simple. The board keep making flimsy excuse for their incompetence to sign good players, keep restraining their old players, scared of losing them and decreasing in their performance.

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We played a pretty good game, after the last leg I didn't really expected us to be this good and this obvious and it was an away game as well so its not like we were at home playing this game. Its good that we finally had the win with ease that we were looking for. Last two games on the last leg were so close that we started to think that team had something wrong, and we didn't really know what it was so I am pretty sure that everyone feels alright about it. In the end we are living in a situation where its looking decent for sure. I hope that next game is like this and we get an easy win, not only we would go up, but it would also be a lot of psychological help and morale for the team.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on August 08, 2023, 03:42:58 PM

Galatasaray lead 2-0 after 80 minutes. Galatasaray's performance is quite stable today. Opponent NK Olimpija's performance is not weak. Despite several good attacks, they could not break Galatasaray's defence. The performance of Galatasaray's offensive and defensive players was very good today. Galatasaray is going to win the away match

3-0 for galatasaray against olimpija. Galatasaray has 100% chance to be qualified for UCL now. Olimpija needs a miracle to win against galatasaray in the second leg. The club needs to make at least three goals to force the game to go to the penalty.

The performance from galatasaray is far better compared when it was facing zalgiris in the previous match. I thought that if zalgiris has even tougher compared with olimpija. Olimpija has so many non accurate shoots compared with galatasaray.

The defensive line of galatasaray was really solid during the game. GGWP for galatasaray.

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In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

But isn't it contradictory when you say that they don't have a chance with a chairman who actually turns down an offer for Harry Kane?

I agree with you that Tottenham hasn't done much to become more competitive sometimes, but keeping Harry Kane would speak for the chairman rather than against him. Though give it a few days and we will finally know whether Kane will stay or not.

If Tottenham doesn't want to become an average club, which they kind of are already, they would need significant investment into the team's quality.

If Kane joins Bayern Munich in this season, he will get the chance to earn more achievements with Bayern Munich while he can never have the chance to win the Champions League title with Tottenham in this situation of this team, I think this transfer will help Harry Kane a lot.
Also, Tottenham can earn enough from this deal and spend the money to rebuild the team and race for the premier league while Bayer Munich can have a better performance in the next Champions League.

Thais easier said than done. We have now seen for quite a while what you can buy with 100 million. Assuming that Tottenham gets a 100 million payment (bonuses excluded), it is them who have a striker problem and who need to find a new player for that position. But where should they go? Try it with some unknown player who costs "only" 50 million? You can't build a new team with 100 million and you can certainly not just replace a superstar. Look how expensive Osimhen even is.

I doubt that Bayern is one of the big favorites for the Champions League. Maybe it is more realistic for them if Kane comes, but they haven't changed much so far. An issue with a goalkeeper and their stars are inconsistent.

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Quote from: shogun47 on August 08, 2023, 04:59:30 PM

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 08, 2023, 10:29:14 AM

In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

But isn't it contradictory when you say that they don't have a chance with a chairman who actually turns down an offer for Harry Kane?

I agree with you that Tottenham hasn't done much to become more competitive sometimes, but keeping Harry Kane would speak for the chairman rather than against him. Though give it a few days and we will finally know whether Kane will stay or not.

If Tottenham doesn't want to become an average club, which they kind of are already, they would need significant investment into the team's quality.

If Kane joins Bayern Munich in this season, he will get the chance to earn more achievements with Bayern Munich while he can never have the chance to win the Champions League title with Tottenham in this situation of this team, I think this transfer will help Harry Kane a lot.
Also, Tottenham can earn enough from this deal and spend the money to rebuild the team and race for the premier league while Bayer Munich can have a better performance in the next Champions League.

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Quote from: harapan on August 08, 2023, 03:46:18 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on August 08, 2023, 10:29:14 AM

In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

But isn't it contradictory when you say that they don't have a chance with a chairman who actually turns down an offer for Harry Kane?

I agree with you that Tottenham hasn't done much to become more competitive sometimes, but keeping Harry Kane would speak for the chairman rather than against him. Though give it a few days and we will finally know whether Kane will stay or not.

If Tottenham doesn't want to become an average club, which they kind of are already, they would need significant investment into the team's quality.

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Harry Kane looks like he will almost stay with Tottenham until the end of his contract because Tottenham again rejected an offer from Bayern Munich for the third time. I think Bayern Munich will give up on chasing harry kane and will wait until the contract is over to be able to bring Harry kane to the Allianz Arena stadium.

If Harry Kane goes to Bayern Munich, Harry Kane can automatically play in the Champions League this season. However, Levy really kept Harry Kane from staying with Tottenham because Levy refused all offers that came to recruit Harry Kane. Some even say that if Tottenham let Harry Kane go then Tottenham will face serious problems this season where they have to fight from the relegation zone (this is really quite a funny opinion but shocking to hear)

I don't know exactly why Tottenham insisted on not selling Kane for 100 million to Bayern Munich. Based on the latest reports, Tottenham rejected the offer so Bayern Munich had to take another approach. Kane shouldn't be worth that much I guess, but Tottenham seem to be selling too much for this striker.

Honestly that I really believe Kane's sale price will be even lower at the end of next season. It may not be worth another 100 million next year when he turns 30 and over, but Tottenham seem to have that in mind now. Regardless of Kane's situation attracting Bayern Munich's interest, I believe Kane does not deserve to be worth more than 100 million, that is too much of a price for a striker without a title.

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In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

Tottenham still rejected Bayern Munich's offer for Harry Kane even though it had already touched €100m. I think Tottenham want a better offer for their main striker but I don't think the value is outrageous. Harry Kane is almost 30 years old and €100m is a fantastic price for him, but I understand Tottenham and his desire.

The Premier League will start soon, so intense talks must be held regarding Kane's future. Bayern Munich are looking increasingly likely to back out of plans to sign Kane if Tottenham don't have the good faith to sell him. I don't think Tottenham have anything to lose by accepting a €100m bid for Kane, that's a lot of money to find a suitable replacement.

There is more to this than what is been reported as about Tottenham and Bayern Munich, there is nothing absolutely greater than that amount except indeed there is more to it, he is not even an exceptional player who had many career in Premier League, there are more people who don't need him than the ones that loves in Bayern, they should understand this and let Kane bee alone. €100m is something interesting any club will accept it out thinking twice but seems Tottenham has more financial to play for 2023/24 than we all think about them.

It's one thing to be famous and it's another thing to keep it, Kane has had a great season in Tottenham, and since they are rejecting great offer from Bayern, I hope he keep the same energy in seasons to come because ones Tottenham doesn't have what they dream off, he can get kick of any time any day and hell will not lose that day or maybe become number 1 bench guy in the club.

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What Poluweh555 said is true. When he means comfort zone doesn't mean Tottenham, he means England which you just said that British is Kane's comfort zone. Which means you guys are on the same page.

Kane in his early days in Tottenham 2014/2015 when he was the highest goal scorer, I could remember that Real Madrid gave him an offer but he turned it down saying that he is cool playing I'm Tottenham. But presently,I don't think that Kane is cool anymore because players that he is better than is scoring goals have lifted up one or two European league trophies but he is still there with no European trophy. He needs to move to Bayern Munich so that he can taste UCL and feel the joy in lifting such trophy.

Now the problem is not Kane, but I don't think Tottenham want to let him go for 100 million euros to Bayern Munich at all. If Kane really wants to leave Totteham then he might be able to force his move at all ways. But we know that Kane has great loyalty to Tottenham so he has stayed until now.

Of course Kane has the chance to win the Champions League title with Bayern Munich, but still that is not a guarantee that he will win it. Kane could also move to another Premier League team if he wants to win the title, but Tottenham are adamant with the high demand for his value.

Harry Kane looks like he will almost stay with Tottenham until the end of his contract because Tottenham again rejected an offer from Bayern Munich for the third time. I think Bayern Munich will give up on chasing harry kane and will wait until the contract is over to be able to bring Harry kane to the Allianz Arena stadium.

If Harry Kane goes to Bayern Munich, Harry Kane can automatically play in the Champions League this season. However, Levy really kept Harry Kane from staying with Tottenham because Levy refused all offers that came to recruit Harry Kane. Some even say that if Tottenham let Harry Kane go then Tottenham will face serious problems this season where they have to fight from the relegation zone (this is really quite a funny opinion but shocking to hear)

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Quote from: harapan on August 08, 2023, 03:46:18 PM

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

Tottenham Hotspur do not want to sell Harry Kane. He is a key player for the club, and they will want him to play another season with them before selling him. I am confident that if he does not leave Tottenham, he will not be able to win any trophy in the club because the club lacks players and does not have the quality to compete in the league. If Bayern Munich acquires Harry Kane, I am confident that they will improve in the league and champions league and will be able to win the trophy. If he wants to win a trophy and other rewards, he must leave the club.

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