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For Haaland and also for Mbappe, I agree that they are level. They played brilliantly at their club. Even Mbapppe also played very well when he brought his national team to the world cup. However, I'm not sure about Vini. You could say it's still too much for him if he's on the same level as Haaland and Mbappe.

Mbappe, Haaland and Venicius Junior are not the same three players, we can consider the three in three different levels due to performance dribbling and speed. Although Haaland can score regularly, he has not yet become a player like Mbappe. Mbappe has enough speed and finishing skills, but Haaland will definitely lag behind Mbappe. On the other hand, if we consider Venicius Jr.'s performance, we can clearly see his great dribbling skills. Venicius Jr. may not score many goals, but he is good enough to score goals. Mbappe can finish like Venicius Jr. but he can't finish like that. Considering all these things, these three players do not seem to me to be equal players.

According to the way they are listed they are different talents and I think their performance is eye-catching Mbappe does not do too much dribbling once the target to score is acquired the next thing is to shoot, the young player is known for his speed and heavy shoots, and Haaland scoring more goals its actually correct and Haaland knows how to position himself and also a very good finisher so once there is good assist Haaland will always deliver and since he has his fellow teammates giving him good assist it makes his work very easy for him, and in term of speed Mbappe still leads and Vinicius Junior having brazils blood makes him one of a kind all Brazilian players are natural so they play well, talk about scoring and also dribbling the young player a skillful one and Mbappe is not really a good finisher, in conclusion, the three are good and impressive players and still have a great career ahead of them

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~snip~ The same is possible for Mbappe. If he doesn't want to stay in Paris, they should allow the transfer of the player.

PSG have eliminated any form associated with Mbappe. I saw on social media that all the shirts in the official booth had been taken again. In addition, the image of Mbappe in the stadium has also been removed. So it looks like Mbappe is indeed going to leave, it's just that they are waiting for the best moment. So even though it is currently in difficult conditions, it seems that it will end soon.

Nasser Al Khelaifi wants to sell Mbappe even earlier. But Mbappe will not leave the club. By deleting the picture of Mbappe in the stadium, Nasser Al Khelaifi has hinted that he will no longer include Mbappe in the squad. However, if Mbappe wants to stay at the club it would be a shame. I don't know why a star player like Mbappe doesn't want to leave PSG after being so humiliated. Clubs like Real Madrid and Liverpool are interested in Mbappe. They will pay high wages. However, they are not getting any response from Mbappe. However, Nasser Al Khelaifi has made it clear that Mbappe will not be in the squad next season.

Let's think clearly when Kylian Mbappe still has a contract with Paris SG even though Mbappe wants to leave but when his contract is still valid Mbappe can't do anything except next season when Kylian Mbappe's contract is up and that's the right time for Mbappe to open his voice where he will go and most likely to Bayern munchen or Real madrid.
The two big clubs who want Kylian Mbappe to strengthen their chances of getting the Champions League trophy in the coming season but it will be a bit difficult will have to wait at least a year.

If Mbappe stays with PSG this season, and leaves PSG as a free agent next season, there are many clubs who would like to have Mbappe in the squad. And they will offer Mbappe big bonuses and high wages. Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are among them. Chelsea and Liverpool will also try to sign Mbappe. Even this season, these two clubs have tried to bring Mbappe into the team. I also think Newcastle will also want to strengthen their squad next season. As they are very rich club. So they can offer Mbappe a big offer to bring a big star player like Mbappe into the team next season.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 10, 2023, 04:20:07 AM

I liked the development in Galatasaray's attacking performance so far. They were much better than the games against Zalgiris. However I can't see the same effort when it comes to their defending effort. Because it is like they are even moving backwards about that. The first half performance in defense against NK Olimpija was worrying for me.

Maybe after this 3-0 victory in this away game it will be easy for us to move on to the next round. But the manager Okan Buruk must be aware of this big weakness in defense and he must create a solution to this. If we had a more capable competitor against us I don't even want to know how bad the result would be. Sad

I want to talk about a slightly different topic. I expect Barcelona to do great things in the Champions League this year, the way the team is progressing day by day is really admirable. On the other hand, Real Madrid needs a good striker for the team.

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I liked the development in Galatasaray's attacking performance so far. They were much better than the games against Zalgiris. However I can't see the same effort when it comes to their defending effort. Because it is like they are even moving backwards about that. The first half performance in defense against NK Olimpija was worrying for me.

Maybe after this 3-0 victory in this away game it will be easy for us to move on to the next round. But the manager Okan Buruk must be aware of this big weakness in defense and he must create a solution to this. If we had a more capable competitor against us I don't even want to know how bad the result would be. Sad

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 09, 2023, 05:49:29 PM

Speaking about Tottenham and their performance in the Champions League with the current team they have is not something to make sense because they are making wrong decisions over and over, not hiring better players for the premier league and the champions league, losing Conte, and blaming him because of the bad performance on the whole team while he was not guilty. These are all good reasons to say they won't get anything even in the next years.

I'm also surprised with tottenham team. Because they are not observing what other clubs are doing and are not bringing in new players to strengthen them, these guys are not progressing. Even though only few players they already have are performing well, they need to continue to add more players to join the ones who are already performing well for them so that they can have what other teams have. I'm not sure, but I also believe it to be one of the reasons Herry Kane wants to leave the club; yet, they still don't want him to leave.

But I think he realizes that if he stays, he won't progress like other players, and when you feel good about something, you want others to know about it. But given how seriously Harry Kane is playing, the player deserves a team with players with more experience than Tottenham.

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Quote from: uswa56 on August 10, 2023, 02:09:42 AM

Galatasaray was heavily favored from the start to win the match and the big win they achieved was not a surprising result.

Galatasaray team is strong enough. And we shouldn't forget Galatasaray won the Super Lig last season. This team is trying their best to qualify for the Champions League. It would be a shame for them if they won the Super Lig title and fail to qualify for the Champions League. This is why Galatasaray is desperately trying to win every match in the Champions League qualifying round.

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But on the other hand, I don't think Marseille's defeat was too surprising because Panathinaikos is not a team to be taken lightly, these two teams played fairly evenly and Panathinaikos benefited because their cards were received by Marseille players and Panathinaikos played in front of their own supporters.
Agg is now only 1 goal and when the second leg is very possible for Marseille to be able to turn things around.

I was quite surprised by Marseille's defeat. The Marseille team is strong enough. On the other hand, I don't know the Panathinaikos team very well. I thought Marseille would win. But Panathinaikos showed great dominance in this match. And I would say this team deserves to win this match. Their performance was very good throughout the match.

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It's very dissapoint to see the result match between Panathinaikos vs Marseille that surprisingly Marseille defeated by Panathinaikos with slim score 1-0 and during the match Marseille even playing under pressure and cannot develop their game and the situation became so difficult for Marseille after Kondogbia got red card and this situation were utilized by Panathinaikos with very well which make they can able to win the match

France’s stinkiest side strikes again. lol
The choice of line-up is not optimal at all. There was too much individualism, and the players were unprepared.
If this is how Marcelino plans to play this season, he needs to start packing. Unacceptable performance.

I had high hopes for France international football in the last years and they failed to deliver in all of them. Sure , we can say only good words about them when it comes to national team , but when it comes to club performances , they are no there and I think France is not in top 4 in Europe any longer because I can't remember last team a france club won't an international trophy.

Last night , Marseille was lucky to get just 1 goal because Panathinaikos deserved at least 2-3 goals.

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Quote from: bering on August 10, 2023, 01:25:13 AM

It's very dissapoint to see the result match between Panathinaikos vs Marseille that surprisingly Marseille defeated by Panathinaikos with slim score 1-0 and during the match Marseille even playing under pressure and cannot develop their game and the situation became so difficult for Marseille after Kondogbia got red card and this situation were utilized by Panathinaikos with very well which make they can able to win the match

France’s stinkiest side strikes again. lol
The choice of line-up is not optimal at all. There was too much individualism, and the players were unprepared.
If this is how Marcelino plans to play this season, he needs to start packing. Unacceptable performance.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 09, 2023, 04:58:06 PM

Yes, Mbappe is obviously a cynic, and all the fairy tales in 2023 about "my favorite club since childhood, etc." it's not even funny anymore. But he is in his right, he fulfills the contract and there can be no claims against him. PSG is another matter - they paid him for something, but they are trying to pressure him to get more from him than he was obliged to do. This is both unethical and somewhat illegal.

I must say that his behavior is cynical
he is a strategist, very intelligent but in the end he turned out to be a full-fledged mercenary
I don't know if I would take a player like that in my team
one capable of stabbing you at any moment for money

but he's also a professional, so I think it's just for show and to curry favor with the fans

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Quote from: bering on August 10, 2023, 01:25:13 AM

It's very dissapoint to see the result match between Panathinaikos vs Marseille that surprisingly Marseille defeated by Panathinaikos with slim score 1-0 and during the match Marseille even playing under pressure and cannot develop their game and the situation became so difficult for Marseille after Kondogbia got red card and this situation were utilized by Panathinaikos with very well which make they can able to win the match

Gondogbia's red card was a disaster in Marseille's match because it must have been difficult to compete with 10 players in the midst of their condition even though they were the favorites in this match.
Actually their performance was quite good and I expected more but in this case what I regret is where Kondogbia received a second yellow card which made them have to change the scheme quickly from offensive to more deffensive which made them have to be willing to lose this match.

There is still a second leg at home so hopefully they can reverse the aggregate because it would be a shame if they don't qualify at this stage.

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Quote from: bering on August 10, 2023, 01:25:13 AM

It's very dissapoint to see the result match between Panathinaikos vs Marseille that surprisingly Marseille defeated by Panathinaikos with slim score 1-0 and during the match Marseille even playing under pressure and cannot develop their game and the situation became so difficult for Marseille after Kondogbia got red card and this situation were utilized by Panathinaikos with very well which make they can able to win the match

Meanwhile Galatasaray has just gets positive result from Olimpija Ljubljana yesterday that they can able to win the match with scores 3-0 and according to the match statistics Galatasaray actually didn't too dominate the match but they were playing more effective than their opponent and after this result Galatasaray in the comfortable position especially in the second leg they will playing as a host and i think Galatasaray will qualified to group stage

Galatasaray was heavily favored from the start to win the match and the big win they achieved was not a surprising result.
But on the other hand, I don't think Marseille's defeat was too surprising because Panathinaikos is not a team to be taken lightly, these two teams played fairly evenly and Panathinaikos benefited because their cards were received by Marseille players and Panathinaikos played in front of their own supporters.
Agg is now only 1 goal and when the second leg is very possible for Marseille to be able to turn things around.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on August 09, 2023, 10:55:49 AM

As the Manchester City team managed to secure two trophy victories last season. As such, the confidence level will be high among every player in the team. From that point of view, we can expect good things from Manchester City this season.

Not only two trophies last season, but Manchester City also managed to get three trophies at once last season because two of them were in competition in England. It's not wrong to expect good things from Manchester City for this season again because Manchester City still has good potential to look forward to, but you also have to see how the appearance of some of the new players who have been recruited there. Because I think there will definitely be a difference in terms of their performance this season.

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It's very dissapoint to see the result match between Panathinaikos vs Marseille that surprisingly Marseille defeated by Panathinaikos with slim score 1-0 and during the match Marseille even playing under pressure and cannot develop their game and the situation became so difficult for Marseille after Kondogbia got red card and this situation were utilized by Panathinaikos with very well which make they can able to win the match

Meanwhile Galatasaray has just gets positive result from Olimpija Ljubljana yesterday that they can able to win the match with scores 3-0 and according to the match statistics Galatasaray actually didn't too dominate the match but they were playing more effective than their opponent and after this result Galatasaray in the comfortable position especially in the second leg they will playing as a host and i think Galatasaray will qualified to group stage

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Another problem for Bayern at the moment is that apart from strikers they also still need a goalkeeper.
Yann Sommer has left and we know Neuer is also still unable to compete so currently Ulreich alone is a strong candidate without any other options.
Currently, Kane's offer has been given and only has to wait from Tottenham but for this goalkeeper there is still no other decision whether they will try to appear only with Ulreich or look for other alternatives.
But if you look at the current conditions Ulreich who will play on the Champions League and Bundesliga stage will be very large dependents and risks that will be faced so it would be better if Bayern look for other goalkeeping options as a coating.

Bayern Munich is very busy in the transfer market, especially in the goalkeeper position. Bayern Munich has just parted ways with Yann Sommer, and official goalkeeper Manuel Neuer has not set a return date after a long-term injury. He is 37 years old, and ensuring his health or fitness to compete continuously isn't easy. Ulreich could be a strong contender for next season, and it's entirely possible. Bayern Munich has yet to negotiate a deal for Harry Kane, so they will probably be eager to recruit a new goalkeeper. This is one of their top priorities.
Kepa Arrizabalaga looks set to be a target for coach Thomas Tuchel, whether or not Bayern Munich is considering sitting down at the negotiating table with Chelsea.

This possibility will be difficult in the remaining transfer time that is running out. Kepa must now be a trusted player from Pochettino because he currently has no rivals because Mendy left for an Arab club. This will make it difficult for Kepa to leave Chelsea.

On the other hand, looking at the current conditions, I think this is a bit of a mistake for Bayern management because they are only preoccupied with Kane's condition which is just a waste of time because since the summer transfer opened, they have always tried to negotiate with Tottenham but without clear results, making Bayern hassle in the end.

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Quote from: asriloni on August 09, 2023, 05:57:02 PM

PSV was doing so well right now. It's just adding another record in beating sturm in qualifying round of UCL. The winner of the second leg is PSV. PSV has superior squads compared with sturm. I see almost zero chance for sturm in beating PSV for the second leg.
Sturm needs more than a luck to make it happen right now.

Leg 2 matches will be held on August 16 with an aggregate score of 1 - 4.
I think it's impossible for Strum to beat PSV with an aggregate difference of 3 points and Strum needs to win and score 4 goals without giving PSV a single goal if they want to qualify for the UCL.
But to get that victory it is true what you said that Strum does not only need luck but also a miracle.

A good opportunity for anyone who bets to take a bet on PSV's win.

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Quote from: lalabotax on August 09, 2023, 04:31:43 PM

For Haaland and also for Mbappe, I agree that they are level. They played brilliantly at their club. Even Mbapppe also played very well when he brought his national team to the world cup. However, I'm not sure about Vini. You could say it's still too much for him if he's on the same level as Haaland and Mbappe.

Mbappe, Haaland and Venicius Junior are not the same three players, we can consider the three in three different levels due to performance dribbling and speed. Although Haaland can score regularly, he has not yet become a player like Mbappe. Mbappe has enough speed and finishing skills, but Haaland will definitely lag behind Mbappe. On the other hand, if we consider Venicius Jr.'s performance, we can clearly see his great dribbling skills. Venicius Jr. may not score many goals, but he is good enough to score goals. Mbappe can finish like Venicius Jr. but he can't finish like that. Considering all these things, these three players do not seem to me to be equal players.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on August 09, 2023, 05:50:13 AM

Another problem for Bayern at the moment is that apart from strikers they also still need a goalkeeper.
Yann Sommer has left and we know Neuer is also still unable to compete so currently Ulreich alone is a strong candidate without any other options.
Currently, Kane's offer has been given and only has to wait from Tottenham but for this goalkeeper there is still no other decision whether they will try to appear only with Ulreich or look for other alternatives.
But if you look at the current conditions Ulreich who will play on the Champions League and Bundesliga stage will be very large dependents and risks that will be faced so it would be better if Bayern look for other goalkeeping options as a coating.

Bayern Munich is very busy in the transfer market, especially in the goalkeeper position. Bayern Munich has just parted ways with Yann Sommer, and official goalkeeper Manuel Neuer has not set a return date after a long-term injury. He is 37 years old, and ensuring his health or fitness to compete continuously isn't easy. Ulreich could be a strong contender for next season, and it's entirely possible. Bayern Munich has yet to negotiate a deal for Harry Kane, so they will probably be eager to recruit a new goalkeeper. This is one of their top priorities.
Kepa Arrizabalaga looks set to be a target for coach Thomas Tuchel, whether or not Bayern Munich is considering sitting down at the negotiating table with Chelsea.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 09, 2023, 05:49:29 PM

Speaking about Tottenham and their performance in the Champions League with the current team they have is not something to make sense because they are making wrong decisions over and over, not hiring better players for the premier league and the champions league, losing Conte, and blaming him because of the bad performance on the whole team while he was not guilty. These are all good reasons to say they won't get anything even in the next years.

Tottenham Hotspur needs more potential players that would improved the present state of the team. It's very easy to acknowledge the club's poor performance but difficult for them to improved. Spurs didn't make it to UEFA Champions League this season, they failed to make good impressions last season. We have witnessed a whole ugly incidents happening at Tottenham Hotspur. I would conclude the board is spoiled the entire club, making them a reluctant team which are imbalance and incapable of winning any significant title. Spurs would only compete in too competition but won't find their space to win, let's hope they changed this motive with time.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on August 09, 2023, 03:57:01 PM

Well, like i said in my previous post, PSV destroy easily Sturm Graz in his home, so they can play the away game much more relaxed. And again like i anticipated Olimpique Marseille cant overtook easy Panatinaikos, i dont know why Marseille strug so much in european matches agains weakers teams, i think theya re gonna pass however.

PSV was just making its record against strum to be even better. PSV has ever meet this club in europa league a few years ago and PSV was winning in all the matches. The same thing gonna repeat again right now. I expect PSV to destroy strum gaz for the second leg as well.
PSV gonna become a host for the second leg which will give a very big pressure for sturm graz. I would like to put more than 2.5 goals for the result of the second leg. PSV is far better in everything compared with sturm graz at this moment.
No doubt if the way for PSV to be qualified for UCL is far easy due to the big aggregates that are already achieved from the first leg.

Quote from: Volgastallion on August 09, 2023, 03:57:01 PM

I other things they have a really good team for this season.

PSV was doing so well right now. It's just adding another record in beating sturm in qualifying round of UCL. The winner of the second leg is PSV. PSV has superior squads compared with sturm. I see almost zero chance for sturm in beating PSV for the second leg.
Sturm needs more than a luck to make it happen right now.

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Quote from: harapan on August 08, 2023, 03:46:18 PM

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In as much as Bayern Munich seriously need a striker like Harry Kane, the English national team captain also needs a club like Bayern in other to crown his footballing career with trophies.
Reports has it that the player and club has reached personal agreements but has been hindered to finally sign the transfer papers by Tottenham Hotspur's club chairman who is yet to consent to the player's departure. I think Harry Kane can do better in forcing his way out of the club and it's best to do it now to save his career

In the next few years Tottenham will never get better if they continue still with the chairman, they have no hopes of winning a trophy.
Rejecting such offer from Bayern Munich wasn't expected if the player has agreement with the Bayern Munich. The offer brought was a good one yet they still decided turning down the offer.
I really want to see him winning a trophy finally but all hopes this season are not looking well for him to win if he considers staying further. Thomas Tuchel has pressured so hard for Kane he really want to get it done

Speaking about Tottenham and their performance in the Champions League with the current team they have is not something to make sense because they are making wrong decisions over and over, not hiring better players for the premier league and the champions league, losing Conte, and blaming him because of the bad performance on the whole team while he was not guilty. These are all good reasons to say they won't get anything even in the next years.

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