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Bookmakers currently rate PSG as favorites to reach the final. This may not be fair, but there is logic in it: in terms of team strength and statistics, PSG is obliged to score at least one goal in a two-game confrontation with Dortmund. Therefore, it is obvious that one goal is not enough advantage for Dortmund. Will Dortmund be able to score a goal in Paris and will Dortmund be able to win in extra time if PSG wins the return leg by a narrow margin? Bookmakers believe that these events are likely with chances of less than 50% and give preference to PSG.
I think PSG is the favorite because they played quite well in the first leg even though they lost by 1 goal Agg, but if we look at the performance of both teams, there is a big possibility that PSG can turn things around in the second leg.
I judge from the performance of both teams and although Dortmund cannot be underestimated, we also have to look realistically at the fact that PSG will play at home.

Dortmund's victory in the first leg had a bit of an element of luck, overall Dortmund were not able to completely control this match and there were several PSG attacks that failed to be successful so I see from the overall performance of the two teams in the first leg that the PSG team was more detached from the final result but that could be reference for what will happen in the second leg later.
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On the other hand, Dortmund performed well in their home match against PSG. Dortmund won the match 1-0. PSG's overall performance was quite good, but neither team managed to score in this match. Now it cannot be said for sure whether PSG will win the home match 2-0. Since Dortmund played well and won the first leg, Dortmund naturally seem to be favorites to qualify for the final at the moment.

Bookmakers currently rate PSG as favorites to reach the final. This may not be fair, but there is logic in it: in terms of team strength and statistics, PSG is obliged to score at least one goal in a two-game confrontation with Dortmund. Therefore, it is obvious that one goal is not enough advantage for Dortmund. Will Dortmund be able to score a goal in Paris and will Dortmund be able to win in extra time if PSG wins the return leg by a narrow margin? Bookmakers believe that these events are likely with chances of less than 50% and give preference to PSG.
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Bayern vs. Dortmund in the Bundesliga and Bayern vs. Dortmund in the Champions League final are very different games. The atmosphere is different, the game plan is different, the feeling of the fans is different, the motivation of the players is different. I don't agree with that, the German final would be very interesting to watch.
I think Dortmund and Real Madrid will play the final. In the end I hope we will see a final won by Dortmund. Whether it's Bayern or Real, instead of teams with huge budgets, the beautiful side of football is Dortmund, they deserve this final and this trophy.
You are right, even though Bayern Munich and Dortmund have often met in the Bundesliga, if they were in the Champions League competition they would play a different performance because the competition is bigger and will be watched by people from all over Europe because this is the biggest competition in Europe so every club will perform as fully as possible using all their strength with a stunning performance, even though Bayern Munich and Dortmund are used to being in the Bundesliga and Bayern Munich's level is still above Dortmund's, but when it comes to the Champions League, Dortmund will be a quite scary club and Bayern Munich should be wary of it. Dortmund cannot be underestimated. Dortmund's motivation in the Champions League is very strong, even though Dortmund's performance in the Bundesliga was less than optimal.

Yes, it looks like Real Madrid and Dortmund will advance to the final, between them they deserve the title if they are able to survive until the end, but my prediction is that Dortmund will be beaten by Real Madrid, who have a greater chance of winning the Champions League title thanks to their experience. But the surprise indeed that no one knows maybe if Real Madrid makes a mistake or gets a red card, Dortmund can take advantage of that opportunity, but I think it's unlikely that Dortmund can win the Champions League title and beat Real Madrid.
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After seeing the results of the first leg, Real Madrid and PSG will be the favorites to advance to the final.
However, I don't think there will be any feelings for Mbappe if he has to face Real Madrid in the final. In fact, I think Mbappe will give everything to help the PSG team so that Mbappe's departure will be sweeter to remember after presenting the team with a trophy.

However, I think this will be an easy step for Real Madrid to regain the Champion League title this season, because compared to PSG, the Real Madrid team has much stronger strength and Real Madrid also has a much stronger mentality.
If you predict the teams that will qualify into final based on the first leg's results, it should be Real Madrid and Dortmund, not Real Madrid and PSG. People who think PSG will qualify into final are believe in Mbappe and didn't care with the previous results.

I would say Dortmund was lucky to win in that match, PSG will humiliate Dortmund in Paris.



You are right. If we consider the performance of the teams in the first leg, then Dortmund and Real Madrid seem to be the most qualified for the final. It is true that Bayern Munich performed well in home matches. But Real Madrid were very tactical. So the team was able to draw the away match. And we know that Madrid is very strong in the ho match so Real Madrid now have more chances to qualify for the final than Bayern Munich.

On the other hand, Dortmund performed well in their home match against PSG. Dortmund won the match 1-0. PSG's overall performance was quite good, but neither team managed to score in this match. Now it cannot be said for sure whether PSG will win the home match 2-0. Since Dortmund played well and won the first leg, Dortmund naturally seem to be favorites to qualify for the final at the moment.
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Unless Dortmund score another goal in the 2nd leg I will continue to see PSG one step ahead. Yeah, I'm saying it despite being aware of Dortmund's 1-0 advantage.  Smiley
Scoring in the second leg for Dortmund is still possible but I also see PSG will be more aggressive to get back more goals than that, I want to see where PSG is like against Barcelona at the end.

Have you seen how many goal chances PSG wasted? There were shots hitting the goal post and big chances with comfortable headers wasted also. I will expect a more capable PSG next time.
PSG's misfortunes always come at the wrong time, but that's the effort they put in but in the end we're a bit tense with a lot of chances that have been wasted, but that's not what they want.

Considering Dortmund aren't a wonderful team at defending they will need to make up for potential goals to be conceded. Honestly I would love to see Dortmund in the finale but their job is still a tough one.  Sad
But I don't see any chance of Dortmund getting into the final even though Dortmund's chances are 50% or more, anything can happen considering Dortmund can hold on until the end of time.
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Everyone left in the competition currently deserves to lift it, they’d shouldn’t be any exclusion on who deserves it better. I think the final for any of this clubs will be interesting considering what they all have at stake at the moment. The general fans will want a Dortmund win to compliment the team or club hard work over the years and most importantly to gift Marco Reus for his longevity. But other clubs too deserve it for different reasons like Bayern for Harry Kane first Trophy in his career, also for PSG for the clubs first champions league and also a fitting  farewell to Mbappe as he set to leave.

Then to Real Madrid for many reason but most especially for been the best team ever in the competition. Many had anticipated the final to be between Madrid and PSG but with the last leg score of this competition many think it’s not possible again but we can’t rule out any chance yet
We’re in the semifinals of Europe’s most elite competition and you can commend the 4 teams in this stage of the competition because they really deserve the slot they’re having. And as such, it wouldn’t be out of point if you want to gift the title to any of the 4 teams because they are all deserving of it.
 
 ⁠They all have a fair share of reason why they should deserve the title and I’m certain they are also ready to put in work to be really deserving of the title. Dortmund has been pretty consistent and have shown the warrior side in this year’s UCL and also a good farewell for Reus who has dedicated most of his career to the club, winning the UCL will be a good gift for Reus and the teams fighting spirit.

 ⁠For Bayern though in the league they haven’t had the best of performance but you can’t say same for them in the UCL as Harry Kane has been really outstanding for them in this competition. Winning the ucl for Bayern will be a glorious one especially a big reward for Harry Kane’s performance for the team in this competition as this could be his first ever trophy
 
 PSG who haven’t won this will want to win as they’ve gotten the whole resources to win this but haven’t had their name in the history book of winners, so winning this will be a dream come true for the club and fans. Real Madrid too have been excellent as winning this will also add more value to their name as undisputed Kings because their journey to success has been one of a kind. A lot of us still have high hopes of a Real Madrid vs PSG finale, well football still remains unpredictable and all I can say is which ever team gets to the final, it will be a really exciting and thrilling final and any team who wins is is well deserving of it.
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I think you are underestimating Dortmund too much if you don't think there is a chance for them to qualify because for now the fact that Dortmund's aggregate is still superior and their performance is still quite good is proof that their chances are still big even if they face PSG.

Indeed, in the end the aggregate of 1 goal did not make them comfortable, but when they managed to keep up with PSG's game the same as in the first leg yesterday it would be enough to put them in the final.
Leg 2 for sure PSG will be the favorites to qualify for the final but they will face stronger pressure compared to Dortmund because for now Dortmund just need to maintain the aggregate advantage they already have but for PSG they have to try to score at least 2 goals or even more ( if Dortmund can score a goal in the 2nd leg) to get to the final.
And don't forget that this is a semi-final which will mean every club playing will do everything to get to the final, including Dortmund who will also do that.

The game between Dortmund and PSG has thought me not to underrated any club that has risen to this level of Semifinals even though one would ordinarily expect PSG to win over Dortmund or at least secure a draw, but it was both to no avail. 1 goal of aggregate is definitely a slim victory to walk away with, but if Dortmund can hold PSG to a draw in the next match, they are already guaranteed of the final against Real Madrid or Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid are also not so sure of their victory over Bayern Munich as both clubs will still maintain the same lineups and chosen a more defensive looking formation whilst Real Madrid is more interested in the striking than defensing
That is the point because indeed for now we can see that the semi-finals can be all things happen including indeed seeing Dortmund in the final because for now underestimating Dortmund just because the second leg is done at PSG and only seeing a 1-goal advantage is considered small is a mistake.

The fact that leg 2 Dortmund can keep up with PSG and can score the winning goal proves that for now Dortmund is very serious about competing in the Champions League and for leg 2 there could also be a tough match that occurs because it is a determination to qualify for the final.

PSG still has a chance to get a win but Dortmund also has the same chance as PSG in the end and their advantage is still balanced where Dortmund has the aggregate advantage and PSG has the home advantage for the second leg this time which makes their probability still 50/50.
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After seeing the results of the first leg, Real Madrid and PSG will be the favorites to advance to the final.
However, I don't think there will be any feelings for Mbappe if he has to face Real Madrid in the final. In fact, I think Mbappe will give everything to help the PSG team so that Mbappe's departure will be sweeter to remember after presenting the team with a trophy.

However, I think this will be an easy step for Real Madrid to regain the Champion League title this season, because compared to PSG, the Real Madrid team has much stronger strength and Real Madrid also has a much stronger mentality.
If you predict the teams that will qualify into final based on the first leg's results, it should be Real Madrid and Dortmund, not Real Madrid and PSG. People who think PSG will qualify into final are believe in Mbappe and didn't care with the previous results.

I would say Dortmund was lucky to win in that match, PSG will humiliate Dortmund in Paris.
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I'm looking forward to this year's final which will be Real vs PSG. This will be a match that can give fans as well as newspapers many topics to discuss. However, the one who stands out and gets the most attention is probably Mbappe, facing the club he is expected to join as a free agent this summer.

Many fans of both Real and PSG will also look forward to the two teams meeting and this will be a match that shows Mbappe's true value. However, to witness this dream final, the obstacles both Real and PSG must overcome are quite large as Bayern and Dortmund are both tough opponents. Real had a slight advantage when they held Bayern to a draw away from home, while PSG did not go as smoothly as they let Dortmund take the lead in the first leg. The scenario of two German football teams meeting in the final is also very likely to happen, but in my opinion, this final pair will be quite boring if this German football civil war happens.
After seeing the results of the first leg, Real Madrid and PSG will be the favorites to advance to the final.
However, I don't think there will be any feelings for Mbappe if he has to face Real Madrid in the final. In fact, I think Mbappe will give everything to help the PSG team so that Mbappe's departure will be sweeter to remember after presenting the team with a trophy.

However, I think this will be an easy step for Real Madrid to regain the Champion League title this season, because compared to PSG, the Real Madrid team has much stronger strength and Real Madrid also has a much stronger mentality.
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I'm looking forward to this year's final which will be Real vs PSG. This will be a match that can give fans as well as newspapers many topics to discuss. However, the one who stands out and gets the most attention is probably Mbappe, facing the club he is expected to join as a free agent this summer.

Many fans of both Real and PSG will also look forward to the two teams meeting and this will be a match that shows Mbappe's true value. However, to witness this dream final, the obstacles both Real and PSG must overcome are quite large as Bayern and Dortmund are both tough opponents. Real had a slight advantage when they held Bayern to a draw away from home, while PSG did not go as smoothly as they let Dortmund take the lead in the first leg. The scenario of two German football teams meeting in the final is also very likely to happen, but in my opinion, this final pair will be quite boring if this German football civil war happens.

Actually PSG vs Real Madrid is final dreaming of UEFA Champion League but defeated on the first leg seems bit difficult will PSG success qualifying to final round and make come back on second leg match?
But not close the opportunity with Bundesliga final team between Bayern Munich vs Dortmund and both team ever made Champion League final before on season 2012/13. If the final match between PSG vs Real Madrid I think will get bigger attention than Bundesliga final match Dortmund vs Bayern Munich.

However all teams have chance get qualifying to final round including PSG have loss on first leg match, its not really difficult with one goal conceded and PSG seems will win over two goals behind had experienced in quarter final loss on the first leg but success got bigger winning on second leg against Barcelona.
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The goal difference between PAG vs Barcelona game cannot be compared to Dortmund’s game because Barcelona and PSG are used to each other and they have been in this stage and Barcelona won a while back just as PSG did this season.

Dortmund might win again or draw in the second leg unless if Luis Enrique will develop a good attacking pattern that can generate more goals for the team in the first half; and Dortmund can also defend their game to at least get a draw in the match so as to qualify to the finals of the Champions League this season.
PSG success in qualifying for the semifinals was due to luck approaching them when playing the second leg game at Camp Nou, the red card received by Araujo allowed PSG to control the game and managed to avenge their defeat in the first leg with a big score. I think if Barcelona game against PSG in the second leg is played 11 against 11, it is very unlikely that they can qualify for the semifinals because Barcelona was already leading 1-0 before Araujo received a red card.

In the second leg, PSG and Dortmund both want to win a ticket to the final, Dortmund benefits from a 1-0 aggregate in the first leg, while PSG benefits from playing at their headquarters. Dortmund must maintain its performance as it did in the first leg and keep its defense strong if it doesn't want to lose its ticket to the final. Enrique will certainly motivate all PSG players to perform at their best to catch up in the first leg, all strategies have been prepared to maintain the opportunity to win a trophy that has never been won so far.
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What I want - A final of Bayern vs Dortmund.

What I expect - A final of Real vs PSG.

Both ties are massively close and really in the balance but Real will do what Real do and I think without their fantastic home crowd, Dortmund might not be able to sustain what they are doing in this years CL.
I'm looking forward to this year's final which will be Real vs PSG. This will be a match that can give fans as well as newspapers many topics to discuss. However, the one who stands out and gets the most attention is probably Mbappe, facing the club he is expected to join as a free agent this summer.

Many fans of both Real and PSG will also look forward to the two teams meeting and this will be a match that shows Mbappe's true value. However, to witness this dream final, the obstacles both Real and PSG must overcome are quite large as Bayern and Dortmund are both tough opponents. Real had a slight advantage when they held Bayern to a draw away from home, while PSG did not go as smoothly as they let Dortmund take the lead in the first leg. The scenario of two German football teams meeting in the final is also very likely to happen, but in my opinion, this final pair will be quite boring if this German football civil war happens.
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Bayern vs. Dortmund in the Bundesliga and Bayern vs. Dortmund in the Champions League final are very different games. The atmosphere is different, the game plan is different, the feeling of the fans is different, the motivation of the players is different. I don't agree with that, the German final would be very interesting to watch.
I think Dortmund and Real Madrid will play the final. In the end I hope we will see a final won by Dortmund. Whether it's Bayern or Real, instead of teams with huge budgets, the beautiful side of football is Dortmund, they deserve this final and this trophy.

Everyone left in the competition currently deserves to lift it, they’d shouldn’t be any exclusion on who deserves it better. I think the final for any of this clubs will be interesting considering what they all have at stake at the moment. The general fans will want a Dortmund win to compliment the team or club hard work over the years and most importantly to gift Marco Reus for his longevity. But other clubs too deserve it for different reasons like Bayern for Harry Kane first Trophy in his career, also for PSG for the clubs first champions league and also a fitting  farewell to Mbappe as he set to leave.

Then to Real Madrid for many reason but most especially for been the best team ever in the competition. Many had anticipated the final to be between Madrid and PSG but with the last leg score of this competition many think it’s not possible again but we can’t rule out any chance yet
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Bayern vs Dortmund is not going to be interesting as we often see in the Bundesliga they often meet.

Real Madrid vs PSG which obviously Francis' representatives will be clowns and helpless. Cheesy

Without a doubt, Real Madrid is still the master of the Champions League as the second leg of the match takes Los Blancos to the final.

Bayern vs. Dortmund in the Bundesliga and Bayern vs. Dortmund in the Champions League final are very different games. The atmosphere is different, the game plan is different, the feeling of the fans is different, the motivation of the players is different. I don't agree with that, the German final would be very interesting to watch.
I think Dortmund and Real Madrid will play the final. In the end I hope we will see a final won by Dortmund. Whether it's Bayern or Real, instead of teams with huge budgets, the beautiful side of football is Dortmund, they deserve this final and this trophy.
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Between Bayern vs Dortmund and Real Madrid vs PSG, I would like to have a final match between Real Madrid vs PSG because they have more star players. It is more interesting and like a challenging destiny for Mbappe if he will play the final match with PSG against Real Madrid which is likely his next club in a next season.

If he can be a main actor in the final match against Real Madrid and help PSG to win it, he will be a hero in PSG but will cause a lot of emotion in Real Madrid and maybe himself too.
A classic Bundesliga derby is still possible in this Champions League final but I do think PSG and Madrid in the final could be feasible for now.

Currently PSG still have to catch up on aggregate in the second leg but they are still the favorites because they will play home it's just that it's not easy apart from catching up on aggregate, Dortmund will also definitely try hard to set foot in the final after several seasons participating only as a complement to the round of 16.
Currently, Madrid has a bigger advantage when it comes to leg 2. They play at the Bernabeu besides, they are also still able to win with the current conditions where the match is still 50/50 so it is likely for Madrid to qualify but we also cannot underestimate Bayern for now because their target also does not want to stop at the semi-finals especially the Bundesliga trophy is gone.
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I think Luis Enrique just needs to improve the team's mentality instead of just hoping his strategy will be useful in the second leg. The team must be given high motivation to beat any opponent, and this must all be reflected in how PSG handles pressure from Dortmund. Of course this is something Luis Enrique has to think about if he wants his team to qualify for the final, but I agree that improving the team's mentality is not enough to just say something.

All players must have the same ambitions and game plan, that means they must give everything they have so that the targets they want to achieve can become a reality. Anything is still possible for PSG who are only 0-1 behind in Germany, so they must maximize their home advantage to successfully qualify for the final.
Agree. The most important part to be evaluated by Luis Enrique is about the mentality of the players. PSG has used a proper tactic, they played quite well in Leg 1 but they scored 0 goals. The players of PSG may feel frustrated, too hurry for scoring goals, or feel nervous. This must be avoided in Leg 2, they also need to focus on every chance and don't need to feel doubtful. The confident of each player must be improved, PSG players need to play with bigger motivation in Leg 2.

I think all the players must do their best, they will give 100% of their efforts. But they must know to deal with the condition, they must know how to handle the mentality.

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From what you explained, you hope that a surprise will occur this season where Dortmund will make history by becoming champions. Yes, who knows, because Dortmund game in the Champions League was so impressive, they were able to show their best strength by beating strong teams. Dortmund does have the opportunity to advance to the Champions League final this season because they already have the capital to win in the first leg so they will play better in the second leg to ensure their progress towards the final.

Between Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, both teams were equally strong in their game in the first leg. But I think Real Madrid has a big chance to advance to the final because they will play at home in the second leg. The surprise may be in the second leg between PSG vs Dortmund where this match will be full of tension for PSG because they have to win the second leg to advance to the final. Mbappe must show his best qualities to help PSG achieve victory in the second leg.
The semi-final second leg between PSG and Dortmund is their fourth meeting this season in the Champions League. In the group stage, PSG won 2-0 in their home match against Dortmund, while PSG drew 1-1 at Signal Iduna Park. PSG has high potential to win its home match against Dortmund in the second leg, but I don't believe PSG can qualify safely without extra time or penalties.

In the last two matches, PSG has always been able to win at home against Dortmund in the Champions League. PSG won both games 2-0, but we never know how their third home game of the season at home against a team that had beaten them 1-0 in the first leg would have turned out. PSG has a high chance of winning, sports bookmakers believe that.
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Unless Dortmund score another goal in the 2nd leg I will continue to see PSG one step ahead. Yeah, I'm saying it despite being aware of Dortmund's 1-0 advantage.  Smiley

Have you seen how many goal chances PSG wasted? There were shots hitting the goal post and big chances with comfortable headers wasted also. I will expect a more capable PSG next time.

Considering Dortmund aren't a wonderful team at defending they will need to make up for potential goals to be conceded. Honestly I would love to see Dortmund in the finale but their job is still a tough one.  Sad
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I believe in PSG. Bigly. We've seen them pull off miracles, like that comeback against Barcelona - fantastic game. But Dortmund is a tough opponent. We cant bank on another red card to turn things around. Now, playing at home, thats a HUGE match. And Enrique, the guy's a tactical genius. He'll have the plan. Thing is, those chances we create? We gotta start burying them. No more messing around. The heart, the skill, its all there. I know they can show us what they're made of.
Dortmund is good that is true but not like Barca and the goal difference to turn things around here is still fewer than that of barca game, actually what PSG need is for Luis Enrique to come up with a good tactics and Mbappe being able to play well, then we will be seeing psg in the final this season.
The goal difference between PAG vs Barcelona game cannot be compared to Dortmund’s game because Barcelona and PSG are used to each other and they have been in this stage and Barcelona won a while back just as PSG did this season.

Dortmund might win again or draw in the second leg unless if Luis Enrique will develop a good attacking pattern that can generate more goals for the team in the first half; and Dortmund can also defend their game to at least get a draw in the match so as to qualify to the finals of the Champions League this season.

Of course PSG will still have a chance to be able to turn things around because PSG will also play at home but, at the same time, Dortmund and PSG are in a safe situation and position in their respective league standings. With thisfactor,it will certainly make PSG and Dortmund able to play even better in this Champion League semifinal match. But at least, because Dortmund also has an aggregate victory even though with it is only 1-0,but at least Dortmund is in a better situation. Because ofcourse, if Dortmund manages to play with good defense and discipline, then at least PSG is also still possible to get a deadlock.

There's more of a problem here in that a 1-0 scoreline isn't so safe considering they won't be playing at home. PSG at home, with the support of their fans can easily turn the tide, so it is very important for Dortmund to play as carefully as possible and try to attack, which is quite difficult in general
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hahahahah what? How in the hell Dortmund have higher chances of qualifying than PSg because they only win by one goal in his home game? Man i dont think football work in that way, this is a 180 minutes game and i dont think P$G is gonna fail in this second match.

For me right now is 60% PSG and 40% dortmund.

I think, PSG can qualify for the semifinals also only because of luck because in the second leg Barcelona only played with 10 players but anyway, the reality is that PSG always falls behind first. So, if for example PSG no longer get the same luck for the second leg against Dortmund later, then PSG will also still fail. But indeed, as a home team in the second leg later, PSG will still have a chance to win because of course, the 1-0 aggregate is really a score that is not entirely safe. So indeed, I also admit that PSG still has a chance to win but for some reason, I think Dortmund will still be able to maximize the aggregate victory it has.

Honestly, PSG's performance was not that bad in the first leg. The club has been showing very consistent performance by gradually attacked dortmund through various angle. PSG was only unlucky enough in the previous game. I strongly believe people who watched it was also thinking the same. Imagine if mbappe's shoot was not hitting the bar.
It would be helping PSG to get draw against dortmund. It's only matter of time for PSG to do revenge in the second leg. PSg may be using everything owned by the club in order to win against dortmund soon. I do really appreciate how PSG was performing even better.
The second leg is gonna be a very harsh game for PSG for sure. I strongly believe in it.

Unlike you, I think the performance of PSG in the first leg was very bad, and only some players and especially the defenders of PSG were playing well while the other players couldn't have a good performance. However, the first leg was in the Dormound's stadium and maybe this affected the games otherwise PSG could have a much better performance than this.
Now since the second leg will be in Paris, I think PSG is going to play full attacking style and they will win the game against Dromound with a good result to be in the final match for the first time
That's how Enrique can have the chance to win the Champions League title for the first time in PSG.

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