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If we look at it realistically, even Borussia Dortmund is likely to lose this final match. It is not easy to beat Real Madrid, especially in their final and final matches in the Champions League, they almost always succeed in winning. So some Borussia Dortmund supporters may be discouraged by what will happen to their favorite team in this final match.
But I also believe that hope is still there, because nothing is impossible in football. Even though it is difficult, their opportunity is still there and as long as they still have the opportunity, there will also be hope for them. So they should give full support to their favorite team so they can do their best in this match. They don't need to think about the final result they will get, but they have to focus and play with full strength to make a big surprise.

Everyone is at the point of losing because they are both good. and Dortmund's defense is strong. and the way people are so positive about Madrid winning what if they don't win but anyhow they want to do it Madrid will still win, and winning Madrid in the finals will be difficult at the same time. this is one of the most confusing seasons in the Champions League but I have faith in Madrid. both clubs' fans will be worried and will not want to be disappointed because am sure a lot of them would have commented on how their favorite club will win the Champions League even when they don't know what will happen on that day. and if Madrid should lose it will be a very big disappointment because when it comes to fans Madrid has more fans than Dortmund. anything is possible because it has happened several times. support matters and I love Madrid if they win I will be happy because I even feel they deserve the trophy because they have come a long way just for them to win the Champions League.  and even with the support all that will be in the mind of the supporters is how are they going to win that trophy and which is the whole aim of qualifying.
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Last few hours, Real Madrid have announced their player squad list for UEFA Champion League final match against Dortmund on this weekend, get little surprised because their holding midfielder Aurélien Tchouaméni who currently announced get injury and absent for the final match suddenly get in the list squad teams. Including with David Alaba are in the squad list for the final match have been absent for long time and he has opportunity to make debut in the final indeed get doubt Carlo Ancelotti will play him on the first minutes.

Its good news for Real Madrid because their composition squad are completing and right now focus for the final match with several days left, I am expected Real Madrid will be the winner of Champion League for season 2023/24 by winning over two goals.



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The presence of players who were initially announced as injured but who were later included in the final squad list could be an interesting strategy by the coach to confuse opponents or provide a morale boost to the team. However, also keep in mind that this can be a risk if the player has not fully recovered. Meanwhile, the presence of a player like David Alaba, who has been absent for a long time and has the potential to debut in the final, is good news for Real Madrid because it can provide additional strength and valuable experience for the team.

Aurélien Tchouaméni can of course play in the final even though he is reportedly injured, but I doubt David Alaba. Of course Carlo will look at the conditions on the field, if his team doesn't have too much trouble facing Dortmund, players like David and Aurélien only come on at the last minute.

Moreover, the prediction of winning with a two-goal lead depends on various factors including the team's performance on the field and the strategies implemented by both coaches. However, Real Madrid fans certainly hope to see their team achieve a brilliant victory and lift the Champions League trophy this season.
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Everything can happen, especially in this stage of the season and the final stage of the game. Real Madrid needs to be careful with Dortmund because they are not a team to underestimate; they can make a surprise move. Although Real Madrid are stronger and they are doing better than Dortmund in all aspects, in this stage of the season we should not underestimate any team opponent. Since this is the final, you can see that Dortmund will do everything possible to see them win the title, but I think it will be very hard for them to achieve that because of Real Madrid's consistency, so let's see how they will do and who will win the league title, even though I consider Real Madrid to win. 
Too much hype and too much entertainment about the final which is now having just two days left with we all know peoples are crazy about this game and everyone is looking for win of his favourite team which is natural because this is one of the most exciting games in European soccer which is having huge fan base and talk about this game as well no doubt we are having too many surprises and shocking results like we have last night while Fiorentina lost their second final, and now we are having Real Madrid vs Borussia Dortmund with any surprise and upset is on cards.

Dortmund is having few impressive players and their defense is also best but Real Madrid which is enjoying this season with their best quality and performance are also ready for another good end of the season and things have never been problematic for them because they are having best squad in this format.
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truth is that you don't get to win the UCL by just mere wishes or making sentimental wish based on your preference for a particular club. It's no doubt that if we're considering being fair with the finals, it would have been better for Dortmund to win the UCL and considering the fact that real Madrid has won 14 UCL already and are on thier journey to winning the 15th one, somany anti real Madrid fanbase would want Dortmund to bring on the magic in the finals but you know that real Madrid is equal to the task.

Remember that so many persons didn't want pep and his Manchester City team to win the premier league title again but you can't just make a wish against a big team that's very ambitious and you expect them to come to the finals to make a joke in themselves. From all indication, real Madrid will still win the UCL this time and with mbape coming to join the team next season, it will certainly become more deficult to taking the UCL trophy out of the reach if real Madrid.

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I don't know of any truly anti-Real Madrid users who are actually fans of Barcelona or any other rival. Most people here are Real Madrid fans who respect Real Madrid, so commenting on something here is like talking to yourself all the time.

Even if one or two people hate Real Madrid, then I would probably say they don't completely hate Real Madrid, but what they hate are the hard-line fans who are likely to always cause a lot of problems for other fans with harsh words or other things they don't like. . I don't see what the point of it all is, but I appreciate all differences as long as they are respectful.

Real Madrid is the only team in the world that has won 14 Champions League titles in history. No other team will be able to compete with them if Real Madrid's financial condition is good in the long term. Barcelona was clearly far behind, Manchester City and many other teams failed in many attempts, so Real Madrid were the untouchable kings when it came to the final.
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Everyone not wants Real Madrid to win again because it's boring, only Madridistas wants it.

Nah it's not 50/50 chance, it's actually 20/80, 20 for Dortmund and 80 for Real Madrid.

Underestimating a team doesn't always mean bad thing, Real Madrid's players can get a big confident if they underestimate Dortmund. Most people always like to mention winning mentality right? underestimate a team is one thing that can build your confidence and mentality.

Yeah there is no way it is a 50/50 chance.  Grin  Just look at the odds in the first place.



However would I like to see Dortmund as the champions? Hell yeah!  Cheesy  I indicated that already before and I think people except Real Madrid fans wouldn't also say no to seeing a different champion. Real Madrid have already been dominating the Champions League with 14 titles you know. If Mbappe joins them as well then it is more difficult to beat them out of the tournament. Therefore I hope Dortmund make it this year.  Roll Eyes
Yes anything can happen but unfortunately we have to see more in the condition of these two clubs which in my opinion are far different even though Dortmund lately is seeded with an extraordinary appearance thanks to the help of Sancho but still the quality of playing the Dortmund players will not be able to compete with Real Madrid players who have greater experience.
I am not a fan of the two clubs but I am only a fan of Manchester City players who I hope to be able to achieve the UCL title but see how great Real Madrid get rid of my favorite club who just got a new experience last season.

As a gambler or bettor will certainly expect big and satisfying results to hope to bet on Dortmund's victory and this club can successfully get the title but the reality is sometimes different from the expectations that we think now and it would be better to be more realistic in deciding to bet on more choices safe rather than speculating only with the desires we think.
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I'm really curious to see what Marco Reus will do, I know for a fact that he will give his heart to this match and I honestly can't wait for the moment when teams take to the field and I, being a big Juventus fan, would like to see what Emre Can will do. who unfortunately has already played in a final with the team I support, now has the chance to turn it around and take revenge for that time
This season will be the last seasons for Reus at Dortmund after rejecting various offers in the past 12 years. If Reus manages to score and win the UCL, it will be a happiness and sadness farewell for Dortmund fans. They will lose a player who has been so loyal to the club for so long, but managed to give the UCL trophy after he made a statements to leave Dortmund. He will become a legend for this clubs.
Marco Reus is one of the unluckiest German soccer player which is having good career but sadly never been able to achieve things which are needed for player like his quality with now he is going to play his last match for the Borussia Dortmund as he is ending his 12 years career at this club and surely this could be good chance for him and his teammates to give him ideal farewell which will be remembered for the years.

Currently, just 34 years old and having no serious injury mean we can expect him for having few more years into soccer which could be good for the fans and his next club but still if he is able to win this trophy this could be one of the most memorable for this legendary Borussia Dortmund player.
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Yeah there is no way it is a 50/50 chance.  Grin  Just look at the odds in the first place.



However would I like to see Dortmund as the champions? Hell yeah!  Cheesy  I indicated that already before and I think people except Real Madrid fans wouldn't also say no to seeing a different champion. Real Madrid have already been dominating the Champions League with 14 titles you know. If Mbappe joins them as well then it is more difficult to beat them out of the tournament. Therefore I hope Dortmund make it this year.  Roll Eyes

Even as a Real Madrid fan, I admit that it would be good if we saw more different champions and the fight for the title was more diverse than every year with less than 10 teams claiming it and playing among themselves.
But the presence of such cheaters as City and PSG in the competition makes me think that it will be good if Real continues to cement its superiority over the rest, so that these upstarts can always be shown their place.
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Everyone not wants Real Madrid to win again because it's boring, only Madridistas wants it.

Nah it's not 50/50 chance, it's actually 20/80, 20 for Dortmund and 80 for Real Madrid.

Underestimating a team doesn't always mean bad thing, Real Madrid's players can get a big confident if they underestimate Dortmund. Most people always like to mention winning mentality right? underestimate a team is one thing that can build your confidence and mentality.

Yeah there is no way it is a 50/50 chance.  Grin  Just look at the odds in the first place.



However would I like to see Dortmund as the champions? Hell yeah!  Cheesy  I indicated that already before and I think people except Real Madrid fans wouldn't also say no to seeing a different champion. Real Madrid have already been dominating the Champions League with 14 titles you know. If Mbappe joins them as well then it is more difficult to beat them out of the tournament. Therefore I hope Dortmund make it this year.  Roll Eyes
truth is that you don't get to win the UCL by just mere wishes or making sentimental wish based on your preference for a particular club. It's no doubt that if we're considering being fair with the finals, it would have been better for Dortmund to win the UCL and considering the fact that real Madrid has won 14 UCL already and are on thier journey to winning the 15th one, somany anti real Madrid fanbase would want Dortmund to bring on the magic in the finals but you know that real Madrid is equal to the task.

Remember that so many persons didn't want pep and his Manchester City team to win the premier league title again but you can't just make a wish against a big team that's very ambitious and you expect them to come to the finals to make a joke in themselves. From all indication, real Madrid will still win the UCL this time and with mbape coming to join the team next season, it will certainly become more deficult to taking the UCL trophy out of the reach if real Madrid.

Hala Madrid 🏆
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Last few hours, Real Madrid have announced their player squad list for UEFA Champion League final match against Dortmund on this weekend, get little surprised because their holding midfielder Aurélien Tchouaméni who currently announced get injury and absent for the final match suddenly get in the list squad teams. Including with David Alaba are in the squad list for the final match have been absent for long time and he has opportunity to make debut in the final indeed get doubt Carlo Ancelotti will play him on the first minutes.

Its good news for Real Madrid because their composition squad are completing and right now focus for the final match with several days left, I am expected Real Madrid will be the winner of Champion League for season 2023/24 by winning over two goals.



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Those who are Dortmund fans may have accepted in their hearts that they will not win the title in the final match and Real Madrid is more likely to win the title in the final match. Among those who bet, Dortmund supporters are likely to bet on Real Madrid in the final match. Football 90 minutes game If somehow Dortmund can advance in these 90 minutes then it will be difficult for Real Madrid to come back because if they score one or two goals, the opposing team will play defensively. Hopefully Real Madrid will not make any such mistake and they will definitely win the title in the final match.
If we look at it realistically, even Borussia Dortmund is likely to lose this final match. It is not easy to beat Real Madrid, especially in their final and final matches in the Champions League, they almost always succeed in winning. So some Borussia Dortmund supporters may be discouraged by what will happen to their favorite team in this final match.
But I also believe that hope is still there, because nothing is impossible in football. Even though it is difficult, their opportunity is still there and as long as they still have the opportunity, there will also be hope for them. So they should give full support to their favorite team so they can do their best in this match. They don't need to think about the final result they will get, but they have to focus and play with full strength to make a big surprise.
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Real Madrid will never underestimate their opponents, this is the final and very crucial for both teams. Real Madrid has players who are one level better than Dortmund, but Carlo Ancelotti is a different figure. Don Carlo is also quite serious about looking at the final this time and he also wants to create history personally and as a team. I also respect Dortmund because they have the ability to reach the final. But Madrid is still superior!

Real Madrid not underestimating their opponent is the best for them of they want to prevail in this coming final this weekend. For a team to have come this far and made it to the finals, they should at least have some fear in them that they can pull up with something different and unexpected that can get them defeated one hand. It is crucial for both teams to take the match serious even if it is clear that Real Madrid is the superior team here. Dortmund have met with many superior teams than them before they could reach this finals, so that is a good sign to not joke with them and give them some hope to be potential winners of the champions league finals too.
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Real Madrid will never underestimate their opponents, this is the final and very crucial for both teams. Real Madrid has players who are one level better than Dortmund, but Carlo Ancelotti is a different figure. Don Carlo is also quite serious about looking at the final this time and he also wants to create history personally and as a team. I also respect Dortmund because they have the ability to reach the final. But Madrid is still superior!
Both teams worked very hard to get to the final round. it definitely wasn't easy for either of them.
we can see how Dortmund can get to the final round. In the group stage, Dortmund appeared impressive by finishing at the top of the group even though they were in the most intimidating group with great teams.
apart from that, they also worked hard to overthrow Atletico, who previously won in the first leg in the quarter-finals. and in the semi-finals, they strengthened their resolve by overthrowing PSG.
Dortmund came to the final with strong determination. Even though Madrid is more favored, I'm sure the match will not be easy for Madrid.
Of course the match will not be easy for real Madrid, Dortmund faced lots of difficult clubs before they got here, while that of real Madrid wasn't as difficult as that of Dortmund. Dortmund will give their all to win this final, mark my words. I am strongly convinced that real Madrid won't have a good party after the final, because Dortmund are going to be the spoiler of their day. I believe why many people are supporting real Madrid to win the final is because they have done it many times and they appeared to be the favorite here, but one thing I believe is that Dortmund is a wounded Lion and it won't go down without giving a good fight.
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Possible everything can happen but not mean that Dortmund can find coming final against real Madrid easily to win it will be very difficult for them to overcome real Madrid. Because they cannot compare performance of real to Dortmund, everyone knows how their so good and very strong this season so predict that Dortmund can surprise people's by defeated real Madrid I think is very early to predict that, But shall let wait and see what can actually happen on Saturday between the real Madrid and Dortmund.
Dortmund can beat Real Madrid but they must have a very wise and proper approach in tactics for the final since its beginning. Real Madrid with their experience and quality, can score goals any time and if Dortmund show their defensive weakness, make mistakes too early, they will have to pay very high cost.

If Dortmund start the match defensively, defend well, they will have bigger chance with time when Real Madrid players will feel like no dangerous counter attacks from Dortmund, lose their patience and try to lift their squad higher and higher to find a goal. It will be time for Dortmund to use counter attacks to invade Real Madrid midfield and defensive areas, and get a winning goal.

I consider Real Madrid will be the champion, not Dortmund but as analyzed, I see chance for Dortmund.

Even though Real Madrid will still be guaranteed to get the trophy, but in the final of the Europa League and Conference League at least the favorite team is lose. With that result, it at least makes me a little hesitant to bet on Real Madrid, because I already lost in bets for the previous two final matches regarding Bayer Leverkusen and Fiorentina. Although indeed, I also realize that it will be difficult for Dortmund to cause a surprise but still, because in football any result can still happen. So yes, I think maybe this season will be a moment for non-seeded teams to succeed in making a surprise, even though it seems unlikely that Real Madrid to lose, but at least Dortmund still has a chance to win. Who knows!
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Its called the final so everyone is entitled to winning i know everyone wants Madrid to win but both clubs have a 50/50 chance. The moment real Madrid choose to underestimate Dortmund it will be dangerous. We know Madrid are good both the same time this is football we know that anything can happen is about been stronger or been a better club their have be several occasions were small clubs will beat big clubs. Its a normal thing in football.  This is not a period to underestimate anyone actually because as Madrid are preparing so is Dortmund so the winner is going to be difficult to predict so we should all rest and wait for the final. It is going to be filled with a lot of excitement from the crowd in anticipation for who is going to win. It going to be tough as both teams will have only one goal which is to win the title so good luck to both and I will celebrate with who ever wins.
Everyone not wants Real Madrid to win again because it's boring, only Madridistas wants it.

Nah it's not 50/50 chance, it's actually 20/80, 20 for Dortmund and 80 for Real Madrid.

Underestimating a team doesn't always mean bad thing, Real Madrid's players can get a big confident if they underestimate Dortmund. Most people always like to mention winning mentality right? underestimate a team is one thing that can build your confidence and mentality.
The champions league final is not new for Real Madrid because it not their first time playing it, they have played champions league finals more than any club in the world and also wons more of it, this alone can give them more confidence when playing it, i don't think Real Madrid have ever underestimated any teams when it comes to playing any final, now that it's champions league the will try harder to win it because it the most cherished trophy in the world which shows the best team in the world and also recognised players in win personal awards.

I respect Dortmund and if they win the league it will never be a surprise to me because they are capable of winning it and also winning Real Madrid, since i started watching ball Real Madrid haven't lost at champions league finals but this time around i begins to have feelings of seeing them given Dortmund a chance, this is my thought and it doesn't mean they are losing, i may be wrong and again i can predict it.
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However would I like to see Dortmund as the champions? Hell yeah!  Cheesy  I indicated that already before and I think people except Real Madrid fans wouldn't also say no to seeing a different champion. Real Madrid have already been dominating the Champions League with 14 titles you know. If Mbappe joins them as well then it is more difficult to beat them out of the tournament. Therefore I hope Dortmund make it this year.  Roll Eyes
If the odds given on the two bets seen in the screenshot, Dortmund are not favorites to win at all. 5.20 and 1.63 have a big difference. On the field, anything can still happen, even Dortmund, who are not favorites to win the title, can break that. Of course, if Dortmund plays optimally than usual because Real Madrid is known to be very promising in playing every final match.

Kylan Mbappe's story may not be now or not in this match, maybe it will be appropriate when we discuss if Mbappe has joined Real Madrid next season.
Without Mbappe in the squad Real Madrid this season is also very difficult to beat.
I just want to assure myself that anything can happen, including Dortmund beating Real Madrid who are trying to add to their 15th Champions League title.
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However would I like to see Dortmund as the champions? Hell yeah!  Cheesy  I indicated that already before and I think people except Real Madrid fans wouldn't also say no to seeing a different champion. Real Madrid have already been dominating the Champions League with 14 titles you know. If Mbappe joins them as well then it is more difficult to beat them out of the tournament. Therefore I hope Dortmund make it this year.  Roll Eyes
Well as a Madrid fan also I can only tell you to keep on dreaming 😂 although I know football itself sometimes can be really really crazy but I doubt that that's gonna have any effect on Real Madrid, I mean we are immune to such bad luck and I don't see it happening now in this finals. The finals might be tough and all that but I still see Real Madrid being the champions at the end.

If you actually want to stop Real Madrid from being champions then stopping them at the initial qualifying round is actually the right place but saying you want to stop them at the finals then that's a totally different discussion or plan together because the boys do definitely know how to have a happy ending.
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Possible everything can happen but not mean that Dortmund can find coming final against real Madrid easily to win it will be very difficult for them to overcome real Madrid. Because they cannot compare performance of real to Dortmund, everyone knows how their so good and very strong this season so predict that Dortmund can surprise people's by defeated real Madrid I think is very early to predict that, But shall let wait and see what can actually happen on Saturday between the real Madrid and Dortmund.
Dortmund can beat Real Madrid but they must have a very wise and proper approach in tactics for the final since its beginning. Real Madrid with their experience and quality, can score goals any time and if Dortmund show their defensive weakness, make mistakes too early, they will have to pay very high cost.

If Dortmund start the match defensively, defend well, they will have bigger chance with time when Real Madrid players will feel like no dangerous counter attacks from Dortmund, lose their patience and try to lift their squad higher and higher to find a goal. It will be time for Dortmund to use counter attacks to invade Real Madrid midfield and defensive areas, and get a winning goal.

I consider Real Madrid will be the champion, not Dortmund but as analyzed, I see chance for Dortmund.
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Real Madrid have already overcome their biggest hurdles this season in the Champions League. Two of the toughest matches of the season for Real Madrid were Manchester City and Bayern Munich. If Real Madrid's opponents in the semi-finals or quarter-finals were Dortmund instead of Manchester City or Bayern Munich, then maybe the final match would have been Real Madrid with Manchester City or Bayern Munich as opponents. 
In the four matches Real Madrid played against Bayern Munich and Manchester City, I didn't bet on any team because I was unsure because if Manchester City or Bayern Munich were strong opponents, the result could go either way. In the Champions League final between Real Madrid and Dortmund, I will definitely bet on Real Madrid and hopefully win.
Comparison the opponent team eliminated since knock out round, Real Madrid had most difficult opponent team than Dortmund after success eliminating Manchester City as the last season winner and Bayern Munich who the top Bundesliga team. Difference with Dortmund most of their opponent eliminated team not too strong from PSV and Atletico Madrid except with PSG. Usually, the Champions League winner is the team that successfully beats the defending champion and this season Real Madrid succeeded in eliminating Manchester City in the quarter final round.

No doubt with Real Madrid never loss when success qualifying to Champion League final become favorite team for winning the UCL trophy in this season by beating Dortmund. Left three days later for the final match begin and both teams between Real Madrid or Dortmund already for their last match in this season before break out two months later for season 2024/25. Its special match for Real Madrid want to give last Champion League trophy for his player Toni Kroos who will retire from football after Euro 2024.
Those who are Dortmund fans may have accepted in their hearts that they will not win the title in the final match and Real Madrid is more likely to win the title in the final match. Among those who bet, Dortmund supporters are likely to bet on Real Madrid in the final match. Football 90 minutes game If somehow Dortmund can advance in these 90 minutes then it will be difficult for Real Madrid to come back because if they score one or two goals, the opposing team will play defensively. Hopefully Real Madrid will not make any such mistake and they will definitely win the title in the final match.
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This Champions League final will be huge. HUGE! Dortmund has fantastic players, but Real Madrid is a machine. They have the world's greatest players, coach, and experience to win. Winners know how to win and will win. Dortmund isnt hopeless. In soccer, anything can happen. The smart money is on Real Madrid. They've beaten the world's finest teams all season and wont quit. Dont count out Dortmund, but dont bet against Real Madrid. This is their game to lose. The world's best squad will show it on the grandest stage. Believe me, this will be a show. Kick back with popcorn and watch Real Madrid make history.
The Champions League final is just a few days away and for sure it will be the most thrilling game for the fans of both teams, the final is of course a big game and I hope we can see the final match will be a game that is indeed exciting and also has a high intensity match regardless of who the winner in the match,  Madrid, who have the mentality, performance and are also favourites to win, will of course face a team that has never been seeded so far, but Dortmund, who also have high performance and spirits, will of course try to emulate what Atlanta did, which is to silence all who underestimate them so far.

Looking at what you said, of course it seems that you are quite optimistic if Madrid will beat Dortmund easily, maybe it is not wrong for you to believe that because Madrid is a team that has everything to be champions this season, although so it should not be for us to underestimate Dortmund as if they came to the final only to be defeated without a fight in the final match later,  I think Dortmund also has a chance to beat Madrid.
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Everything can happen, especially in this stage of the season and the final stage of the game. Real Madrid needs to be careful with Dortmund because they are not a team to underestimate; they can make a surprise move. Although Real Madrid are stronger and they are doing better than Dortmund in all aspects, in this stage of the season we should not underestimate any team opponent. Since this is the final, you can see that Dortmund will do everything possible to see them win the title, but I think it will be very hard for them to achieve that because of Real Madrid's consistency, so let's see how they will do and who will win the league title, even though I consider Real Madrid to win. 
Possible everything can happen but not mean that Dortmund can find coming final against real Madrid easily to win it will be very difficult for them to overcome real Madrid. Because they cannot compare performance of real to Dortmund, everyone knows how their so good and very strong this season so predict that Dortmund can surprise people's by defeated real Madrid I think is very early to predict that, But shall let wait and see what can actually happen on Saturday between the real Madrid and Dortmund.

Considering real Madrid to be a winner might definitely happen because that's what everyone are anticipating due to how their performance prove through out from the started of this season and come to an end of the season, in my own view they will find this final very easy with out any challenges.
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