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Quote from: Pandorak on May 29, 2024, 01:10:42 PM

Real Madrid can be considered superior, based on the last 5 head to head matches between Real Madrid vs Dortmund in the Champions League. However, we must know that Dortmund's last 5 matches recently, Dortmund is very favored with 2 wins in the Champions League and 2 wins in the Bundesliga, and only experienced one defeat in the Bundesliga match.

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

Real Madrid, who also didn't make it to the final last season, will definitely not make any mistakes this season when they make it back to the final. But yes, Dortmund also seems to be in a very ready condition to make things difficult for Real Madrid. And the most important thing is that both teams must be able to play at full strength. And I hope that no players are injured before the final match. Even though both teams are definitely training very hard at the moment, I hope they also avoid unnecessary injuries in training. Because we certainly expect both teams to fight with their full strength. I really can't wait to see this match. Because currently a lot of speculation and predictions have been made and it is only a matter of time before we speculate and predict who will win. Who favors Dortmund or favors Real Madrid? what is clear is that this will be very interesting.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on May 29, 2024, 04:20:21 AM

The fact that Dortmund made it to the final shows that they can't be ignored here, they have been going against odds to get to the final but one thing is sure Real Madrid won't be sleeping especially from the fact that this is Toni Kroos last dance, they won't be sleeping and they are not the kind of team that slip off after winning a title, I believe that the defeat of Bayern Leverkusen will even make Ancelotti and his squad to be cautious of Dortmund.

I still feel Real Madrid will be victorious

I think we all think this a little bit, that is, that we think that Real Madrid will win
sure, its a final and the ball is round and rolls, it can roll badly, a post is a crossbar
but generally, given Real Madrid enormous strength, it should go that way.. lets say that Real Madrid is the favourite

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Quote from: Pandorak on May 29, 2024, 01:10:42 PM

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

Dortmund is facing an uphill battle against Real Madrid, considering Real Madrid really plays well and if so, Dortmund won't have much of a chance to lift the Trophy.
By scoring an early goal, Dortmund can put some pressure on Real Madrid and make a surprise result happen.
But we all know how difficult it will be for Dortmund to make Real concede an early goal.

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Quote from: Dump3er on May 29, 2024, 12:37:57 PM

But haven't we seen countless of surprises across all competitions in European football now? Let's go:

Atalanta beats Leverkusen 3-0. Did anyone expect that?

Dortmund survives the Champions League group and beats Atletico Madrid and PSG. Did anyone expect that?

Manchester United beats Manchester City in the FA Cup final. Did anyone expect that?

All these results are intensely surprising. I would have never bet on Manchester United or Atalanta given how Leverkusen was in shape. Dortmund, if anyone told me they end up in the final, I would have thought that person is insane.

That's why I hope for an exciting match and not some game that is 0-3 at halftime.

After the match of two teams with two different leagues with different statuses of course became our reference to no longer look at Dortmund one eye, Dortmund and Atlanta of course reached the final round with all the hard work and also the spirit of never giving up even though they continue to be underestimated, at this time of course we have to think again to say the favorite and quality team will always win over the non-favorit team, Dortmund who come with all their failures in the league are certainly like Manchester United who managed to eliminate Manchester City in the FA final, for now of course it is difficult to say if Dortmund will be very easy to conquer by Madrid although Madrid have everything it takes to win.

Despite Madrid status as the title favourite, of course I personally will try to go against the grain by betting with at least a draw later, seeing Dortmund scheme and also the performance of Dortmund game that has changed since Edin Terzic coached certainly does not rule out the opportunity for Dortmund to hold Madrid until a normal match is over, besides the mentality possessed by Dortmund when beating PSG certainly shows if they are very ready to compete in the fight for the Champions League championship this season.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on May 29, 2024, 02:15:45 AM

Many strong teams come in this match and perform poorly, maybe Real Madrid is a strong team, but its opposite team, Borussia Dortmund, is very strong. Because since they have entered the final, they will surely have the chance to win this match, the Borussia Dortmund team has created many new scales in these few days to win the title. Because on the day of the final they can make a surprise, and in terms of betting, both teams are almost close, although more people bet on Real Madrid team, of course long-believers Real Madrid will win. But football is a game of uncertainty, the game can turn anytime and normal teams are ready to show their best performance.

you know things, practically Real Madrid have won almost the entire Champions League, they have many cups and therefore have a lot of experience in the matter
furthermore the team has been really strong and stable for many years
Itis difficult to make a dent in a team like that in my opinion

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on May 29, 2024, 04:20:21 AM

The fact that Dortmund made it to the final shows that they can't be ignored here, they have been going against odds to get to the final but one thing is sure Real Madrid won't be sleeping especially from the fact that this is Toni Kroos last dance, they won't be sleeping and they are not the kind of team that slip off after winning a title, I believe that the defeat of Bayern Leverkusen will even make Ancelotti and his squad to be cautious of Dortmund.

I still feel Real Madrid will be victorious

Real Madrid can be considered superior, based on the last 5 head to head matches between Real Madrid vs Dortmund in the Champions League. However, we must know that Dortmund's last 5 matches recently, Dortmund is very favored with 2 wins in the Champions League and 2 wins in the Bundesliga, and only experienced one defeat in the Bundesliga match.

I think the Champions League Final this time will be very fierce for El-Real, considering that Dortmund's defense is difficult to penetrate and has conceded fewer goals than Real Madrid, and it is very likely that there will be extra rounds, or even a penalty shootout to win.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on May 29, 2024, 10:28:59 AM

I support Borussia Dortmund in any case because this season the club that is not the favorite will always win, I just have to be careful about this final match, like the Atalanta vs Laverkuses match, so there is nothing wrong if I support Borussia Dortmund in this final match. because I hope that there is a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because we know that Real Madrid is very difficult to beat..

Maybe many will start to take risks by betting on Dortmund in the Final match later. Because there are many important matches won by teams that are not favorites this season. For example, Atalanta managed to win in the European League Final. And man united managed to win against Man City in the FA Cup Final. And because of these results, many are starting to be influenced to choose a team that is not a favorite in the UCL final match later. And maybe for Dortmund fans will definitely support Dortmund regardless of the results. Because indeed they are in great spirits because they have not been able to go far in UCL for a long time. And this season Dortmund managed to go very far in UCL even reaching the Final. So all their fans will be really excited to support Dortmund in the Final match later.

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Quote from: QueenVera on May 29, 2024, 10:18:55 AM

With these you can begin to imagine Dortmund’s stand in this upcoming fixture as. They have little or nothing to play for. ⁠Yes of no doubt Dortmund have shown resilience in this year’s UCL but you can’t be sure that will still happen in the final because this is Real Madrid who are European giants. Not overlooking Dortmund at all, I’ll still be very sure of Real Madrid winning the 15th UCL trophy.

It's very hard to think how Real Madrid will lose and Dortmund get the UCL trophy. I mean Real Madrid is really very strong this season. Dortmund played very tough and made it to the final but it wouldn't be enough to beat Real Madrid. Ancelotti is an experienced coach at UCL. And Real Madrid will be playing their 18th (or 19th - CMIIW) final in UCL history. Ancelotti has many variations of tactics that I find difficult to predict. I will favorite Real Madrid to win the UCL. But I can't say they will win. I think the match will be intensive and I predict the match will end in a draw. And Real Madrid got the win after extra time.

The experience the Real Madrid team has is one good advantage they've been exploring on, if you where able to watch the their match against Manchester city, you will notice how stable they where till the end of the penalty kick, psychology they are not frightened because they've been on these stage over and over again, the likes of Toni kroos, Luka modric, Dani carvajal and whole lot them on that Madrid squad have a good wealth of experience. Dortmund on the other side have mastered the craft of sophisticating their defense, at least we saw that play out when they met PSG, so for me the game is more like a clash of the titans as both teams have their comparative advantages.

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Quote from: Bobrox on May 29, 2024, 11:35:56 AM

Its difference level competition for comparison between UEFA Europe League final and FA Cup with UEFA Champion League, Real Madrid has huge ambition for winning their 15th of Champion League tittle and want to give last trophy for their players Toni Kroos after announcing retired. I don't think unbelievable result at Europe League and FA Cup final match will make Real Madrid underrate for defeating Dortmund, looking head to head both team Real Madrid always dominance over Dortmund exactly when their team full of talented players with their attacking line Robert Lewandowski.

Madrid has other benefit in this season always success get winning when facing the Bundesliga teams, since phase round defeating Union Berlin and knock out round eliminated RB Leipzig until Bayern Munich kicked out at semifinal round make Madrid more confidence for winning when facing the Bundesliga team.

But haven't we seen countless of surprises across all competitions in European football now? Let's go:

Atalanta beats Leverkusen 3-0. Did anyone expect that?

Dortmund survives the Champions League group and beats Atletico Madrid and PSG. Did anyone expect that?

Manchester United beats Manchester City in the FA Cup final. Did anyone expect that?

All these results are intensely surprising. I would have never bet on Manchester United or Atalanta given how Leverkusen was in shape. Dortmund, if anyone told me they end up in the final, I would have thought that person is insane.

That's why I hope for an exciting match and not some game that is 0-3 at halftime.

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Quote from: makishart on May 29, 2024, 08:46:37 AM

Scoring is a bonus for bellingham, but winning a trophy is essential caused by this is team's main target then bellingham needs to work even harder even though he was not scoring. You will always be remembered to as a winner when you receive the trophy. Bellingham has never been so concerned about this thing and he keeps on his focus to get his first UCL. His objective is to help Madrid win the UCL again in his first season and no more than this.

Yeah it is more like a bonus as he isn't a striker directly. I don't want to seem like I haven't liked his performance so far. Especially in the La Liga, it has been an epic performance with 19 goals. He scored even more than many other strikers. Maybe even Ancelotti didn't expect that many goals from him despite trying him in the attacking midfield position.

I just hope to see him scoring at least one goal in the finale to finish the season by scoring.

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Are you comparing Sancho to the Bellingham? Southgate has his own criterias for selecting a player that is capable enough to play in Euro 2024 and this is what i belive. I'm sure Southgate saw it from the overall performance. Then sancho is not fulfilling his criteria to be a part of euro 2024.

No I'm not comparing. How did you understand it that way? Grin

That part of my post was independent from the Bellingham part.

Yeah maybe Southgate didn't find it good enough yet. He joined Dortmund in the middle of the season and he didn't play a full season there yet. His inadequate performance at Manchester United before that must be a factor here.

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Quote from: budi691 on May 29, 2024, 10:44:26 AM

Maybe I agree with you about there being a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because I want to see a new team that can break Real Madrid's dominance.
but if we talk about a team that is not the favorite to win, I don't agree, maybe you thought that in the European league yesterday, Atalanta, who was not the favorite, could become champion. but when it comes to Real Madrid being the favorite, I'm sure they will become champions, that doesn't mean I don't agree with Dortmund becoming champions.
but for now Real Madrid is a team that has everything to win the Champions League, I hope I'm wrong because honestly I want to see a team that can break Real Madrid's dominance.

It is difficult, although it is still possible to happen, but Real Madrid is a team that has a very strong mentality so the percentage of surprises is very small.
We cannot equate Real Madrid with other teams because Real Madrid is different from Leverkusen who lost in the Europa League final even though they were very favourites, it's all about mentality and Real Madrid's mentality is above the average of other teams.

I strongly agree with you. I'm still not sure why people keep assuming that this match would be extremely similar to Leverkusen vs. Atalanta and this is a non sense thing that talked by some people. Dortmund has chance, YES but it's far less compared to the real madrid. How can Real Madrid win 14 trophies if they believe the story is always happening? It does not make sense to observe that considering how superior real madrid in the upcoming game compared to the dortmund.

I believe Real Madrid will grab the trophy from Dortmund soon. The caliber of the players makes the largest difference here between dortmund and madrid. Dortmund will not be able to grab the trophy from Real Madrid. There will be no good defenders to prevent Rodrygo, Vini, and Bellingham from lifting the UCL trophy.
Real Madrid is extremely powerful in all categories. Having said that, they will have a tough game against Dortmund, but Madrid will win by a close margin.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on May 29, 2024, 11:02:33 AM

Two shocked defeats of Leverkusen and Manchester City are big warnings for Real Madrid before the final. Assuming they start with same players for their squad, they can have different attitude for the final after seeing two shocked defeats with stronger teams are victims. They will debut the final match with more carefulness and it will minimize opportunity for Dortmund to make a shock win in the final.

I hope the best for Dortmund and hope that Reus will have a big title with them before leaving Dortmund or at least they will make an exciting match before Real Madrid can make some twists and win it eventually.

Its difference level competition for comparison between UEFA Europe League final and FA Cup with UEFA Champion League, Real Madrid has huge ambition for winning their 15th of Champion League tittle and want to give last trophy for their players Toni Kroos after announcing retired. I don't think unbelievable result at Europe League and FA Cup final match will make Real Madrid underrate for defeating Dortmund, looking head to head both team Real Madrid always dominance over Dortmund exactly when their team full of talented players with their attacking line Robert Lewandowski.

Madrid has other benefit in this season always success get winning when facing the Bundesliga teams, since phase round defeating Union Berlin and knock out round eliminated RB Leipzig until Bayern Munich kicked out at semifinal round make Madrid more confidence for winning when facing the Bundesliga team.

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Quote from: mamesso on May 29, 2024, 10:28:06 AM

Of course, both teams will make various preparations before this final match begins in order to provide the best performance in order to obtain status as the best team in European competition. Real Madrid appearing in the final has become a normal thing because they have always been the favorites in this competition based on the number of trophies won, while Dortmund made a big surprise this season, they managed to reach the final after eliminating other top clubs. Dortmund motivation to win the UCL trophy is greater than Real Madrid because they really want to win this trophy, maybe Dortmund will make another surprise like in the other two finals (Europa League and FA Cup).

These two teams will of course do their best in the next match, but for Real Madrid itself, of course they are used to appearing in finals and they almost never lose when they are in the final. Real Madrid, in my opinion, really has a winning mentality where they have There is no doubt about the performance, I think Dortmund will probably make things difficult for Real Madrid in the next match, but anything could happen, maybe Real Madrid will make things difficult for Dortmund in the next match.

Dortmund itself has indeed made a big surprise this season and of course they are very ambitious to win the UCl trophy. But even so, Real Madrid certainly won't let that happen, fierce competition will occur in this match where Dortmund has big ambitions and Real Madrid, which has good experience in every final match. considering that Real Madrid is a team that is beyond doubt, of course Dortmund cannot underestimate Real Madrid. I think it is Real Madrid that will make Dortmund difficult, but if the opposite happens, where Real Madrid is made difficult by Dortmund, that will be another surprise for Dortmund.

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Quote from: QueenVera on May 29, 2024, 10:18:55 AM

With these you can begin to imagine Dortmund’s stand in this upcoming fixture as. They have little or nothing to play for. ⁠Yes of no doubt Dortmund have shown resilience in this year’s UCL but you can’t be sure that will still happen in the final because this is Real Madrid who are European giants. Not overlooking Dortmund at all, I’ll still be very sure of Real Madrid winning the 15th UCL trophy.

It's very hard to think how Real Madrid will lose and Dortmund get the UCL trophy. I mean Real Madrid is really very strong this season. Dortmund played very tough and made it to the final but it wouldn't be enough to beat Real Madrid. Ancelotti is an experienced coach at UCL. And Real Madrid will be playing their 18th (or 19th - CMIIW) final in UCL history. Ancelotti has many variations of tactics that I find difficult to predict. I will favorite Real Madrid to win the UCL. But I can't say they will win. I think the match will be intensive and I predict the match will end in a draw. And Real Madrid got the win after extra time.

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Quote from: snipie on May 29, 2024, 10:30:24 AM

Yeah it is true about what happened in UEFA Europa League and that might have an impact on Real Madrid squad which Ancelotti took it on consideration I suppose.

Injury and absence of Tchouaméni can affect Ancelotti's choice for Real Madrid squad in the final but it will not change his choices for the eleven debut players too much.

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That defeat of Bayer Leverkusen could boost the confidence of Borussia Dortmund but we all know that Real Madrid is something else in UEFA Champions League. We are not talking about the classic Real Madrid in La Liga which could lose points against a team weaker than them. Here in Champions League they kick big teams like Bayern Munich, Manchester City, PSG and intimidate them at the same time regardless how the first leg score ends. Since this is the only and last match, I suppose they will play it in a serous manner.

Two shocked defeats of Leverkusen and Manchester City are big warnings for Real Madrid before the final. Assuming they start with same players for their squad, they can have different attitude for the final after seeing two shocked defeats with stronger teams are victims. They will debut the final match with more carefulness and it will minimize opportunity for Dortmund to make a shock win in the final.

I hope the best for Dortmund and hope that Reus will have a big title with them before leaving Dortmund or at least they will make an exciting match before Real Madrid can make some twists and win it eventually.

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This is the final match of the Champions League, of course both teams will prepare their best in this match and of course there is great motivation for both teams.
Borussia Dortmund is also a strong team, their success in reaching the final this season is proof and I am sure Real Madrid will not underestimate them, on the contrary and I think Real Madrid is aware that anything is still possible to happen in the final match.

In several finals this season we have seen surprises and the biggest one was in the Europa League when Leverkusen lost badly in the final match even though previously they were very favorites and of course that could be a significant asset for Real Madrid to be more careful in the final match against Borussia Dortmund this weekend.

I support Borussia Dortmund in any case because this season the club that is not the favorite will always win, I just have to be careful about this final match, like the Atalanta vs Laverkuses match, so there is nothing wrong if I support Borussia Dortmund in this final match. because I hope that there is a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because we know that Real Madrid is very difficult to beat..

In the UEFA Europa League final last two weeks, Atalanta defeated Bayer Leverkusen even when majority of football fans and bookmakers were backing the German champions to win that particular game. Also in the English FA Cup final that was played last weekend, Manchester City suffered a surprise defeat in the hands of Manchester United despite the odds favoring Pep Guardiola's side to win that particular game and because of that, a lot of football folks are now of the opinion that Borussia Dortmund will still go on to beat Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final since they're the underdogs going into that game.
The truth is that there's every possiblity that things might actually work out that way on Saturday when the two best teams in European Cup this season meets at Wembley but as a strong and passionate Real Madrid fan, I'll never buy that idea. Borussia Dortmund this season have shown enough strength and power for anyone to believe that they can beat Real Madrid but I considering the quality of players in both Dortmund and Real Madrid coupled with the experience of managers of both teams, I strongly believe that Real Madrid will win that game.

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The fact that Dortmund made it to the final shows that they can't be ignored here, they have been going against odds to get to the final but one thing is sure Real Madrid won't be sleeping especially from the fact that this is Toni Kroos last dance, they won't be sleeping and they are not the kind of team that slip off after winning a title, I believe that the defeat of Bayern Leverkusen will even make Ancelotti and his squad to be cautious of Dortmund.

I still feel Real Madrid will be victorious

we know that Dortmund should not be taken lightly but we already know who is going to win There is nothing anybody can do Madrid is going to win the Champions League, when last did Dortmund win the Champions League, Compare the duration between the two clubs, and I know they will give real Madrid a tough time but Madrid will keep changing strategies until they are able to defeat them. it is going to be a tough one and if Dortmund is putting it in their mind that they want to win the Champions League they should remove it from their mind because I don't think that will be possible. Their qualifying alone is already an achievement so they should celebrate that but if it is for the trophy, they should know that they will win, and sticking with Madrid winning even on my bet slip. anyone who knows Madrid very well will know that they wont let this one go they must win because of this trophy they lost the La Liga trophy last season so to them it is a do-or-die affair and I don't blame them they have come a long way to be losing.

I hate it when such bold statements are made in football. If it is 100% obvious that Madrid will win as you claimed, why still play the finals. The European football Association should have simply engraved Real Madrid's name as the winners without having to waste anyone's time watching the finals.

Also consider that after the group matches, Dortmund were not favourites of any match from the round 16, but today they are now in the finals. We know that Madrid is not a club that losses finals easily but the history is made and mared just one day. No doubt Real Madrid is the favourites but we cannot be so sure and comfortable that Madrid will win.

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Quote from: Farma on May 29, 2024, 10:15:25 AM

This is the final match of the Champions League, of course both teams will prepare their best in this match and of course there is great motivation for both teams.
Borussia Dortmund is also a strong team, their success in reaching the final this season is proof and I am sure Real Madrid will not underestimate them, on the contrary and I think Real Madrid is aware that anything is still possible to happen in the final match.

In several finals this season we have seen surprises and the biggest one was in the Europa League when Leverkusen lost badly in the final match even though previously they were very favorites and of course that could be a significant asset for Real Madrid to be more careful in the final match against Borussia Dortmund this weekend.

I support Borussia Dortmund in any case because this season the club that is not the favorite will always win, I just have to be careful about this final match, like the Atalanta vs Laverkuses match, so there is nothing wrong if I support Borussia Dortmund in this final match. because I hope that there is a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because we know that Real Madrid is very difficult to beat..

Maybe I agree with you about there being a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because I want to see a new team that can break Real Madrid's dominance.
but if we talk about a team that is not the favorite to win, I don't agree, maybe you thought that in the European league yesterday, Atalanta, who was not the favorite, could become champion. but when it comes to Real Madrid being the favorite, I'm sure they will become champions, that doesn't mean I don't agree with Dortmund becoming champions.
but for now Real Madrid is a team that has everything to win the Champions League, I hope I'm wrong because honestly I want to see a team that can break Real Madrid's dominance.

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That is the advantage they are going to use to play with Real Madrid, it will make Real Madrid to feel the seriousness from Borussia Dortmund because they will make sure they make their goalkeeper and defenders more stronger as never before just to take victory from the final game.

Before Real Madrid will realize what is happening in the game, it will be too late for them to equalize the goal from Borussia Dortmund which is what I guess it will going to happen to make Borussia Dortmund to celebrate the trophy.

There are many teams to learn lesson from, because Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester city experience such thing in some competition that made their opponent to lift the trophy.

This is the final match of the Champions League, of course both teams will prepare their best in this match and of course there is great motivation for both teams.
Borussia Dortmund is also a strong team, their success in reaching the final this season is proof and I am sure Real Madrid will not underestimate them, on the contrary and I think Real Madrid is aware that anything is still possible to happen in the final match.

In several finals this season we have seen surprises and the biggest one was in the Europa League when Leverkusen lost badly in the final match even though previously they were very favorites and of course that could be a significant asset for Real Madrid to be more careful in the final match against Borussia Dortmund this weekend.

Yeah it is true about what happened in UEFA Europa League and that might have an impact on Real Madrid squad which Ancelotti took it on consideration I suppose.
That defeat of Bayer Leverkusen could boost the confidence of Borussia Dortmund but we all know that Real Madrid is something else in UEFA Champions League. We are not talking about the classic Real Madrid in La Liga which could lose points against a team weaker than them. Here in Champions League they kick big teams like Bayern Munich, Manchester City, PSG and intimidate them at the same time regardless how the first leg score ends. Since this is the only and last match, I suppose they will play it in a serous manner.

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Quote from: Farma on May 29, 2024, 10:15:25 AM

This is the final match of the Champions League, of course both teams will prepare their best in this match and of course there is great motivation for both teams.
Borussia Dortmund is also a strong team, their success in reaching the final this season is proof and I am sure Real Madrid will not underestimate them, on the contrary and I think Real Madrid is aware that anything is still possible to happen in the final match.

In several finals this season we have seen surprises and the biggest one was in the Europa League when Leverkusen lost badly in the final match even though previously they were very favorites and of course that could be a significant asset for Real Madrid to be more careful in the final match against Borussia Dortmund this weekend.

I support Borussia Dortmund in any case because this season the club that is not the favorite will always win, I just have to be careful about this final match, like the Atalanta vs Laverkuses match, so there is nothing wrong if I support Borussia Dortmund in this final match. because I hope that there is a club that can beat Real Madrid in the Champions League Final, because we know that Real Madrid is very difficult to beat..

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