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Quote from: Unknown01 on May 10, 2024, 06:33:52 PM

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They are the best team in the world, so calling them the best team in Europe would be technically incorrect (although the meaning will not change since Europe is number 1 in football).

But I understand that you doubt Real Madrid? May I suggest that you think City are stronger than them (or anyone else)? The strength of the team is determined by the results: in the confrontation between Real and City, which can be said to have lasted for 3 years in a row, Real won a convincing victory, the overall score was 2-1 Wink

City may even have a better squad but Real plays much better football strategically and although Pep is also a very good strategist he has not managed to beat Ancelotti. I think Dortmund's chances are even worse because Real is simply a real team for the Champions League and the individual players are also very strong and Ancelotti knows exactly how to let his team play.

After Guardiola’s latest fiasco, I doubt more and more not just that he is a good coach, but that he is a qualified coach at all. Many will say that I am exaggerating, but if you look at the facts, Guardiola is one of the worst coaches in terms of opportunities/results. He was the first of all to overcome the threshold of spending 2 billion on transfers (despite the fact that he initially had top clubs under management and did not build them from scratch) and at the same time received very modest results.

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You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

Need I remind you that Real Madrid isn't PSG, they don't gamble with any of their chances at all. They are nowhere compared to Dortmund, and this isn't in any way to underestimate the capability of Dortmund to win the champions league in any way, but a way of telling you that the odds are not near in the favour of Dortmund. The champions league final I watched was the one between Real and Bayern, although its semi-finals, but its way tougher than the finals and I am of the opinion and belief that whoever emerges from that match is the choice for the champions league title. Dortmund has the fighting spirit to win the title, but they will be surely neutralized by the Madrid Lions. They have Bellingham instead of Dembele, so not much gambling of relevant scoring opportunities. You are forgetting that Real Madrid doesn't play entertainment football, but Impactful one, so if Dortmund leaves the ball for them to play and wait for a counterattack, I promise them that the ball will settle multiple times at their goalpost bottom corner. I say a very big congratulations to the Madrid team in advance

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Quote from: Luzin on May 10, 2024, 12:15:27 PM

Yes, I also feel confident, towards Real Madrid. They have a greater chance of winning. Player statistics and their game history show they are superior. But Dortmund seem to be working hard to make history, Dormund having reached the Final in 2013. But they lost, it seems that this will make their motivation double.

If you look carefully, Dortmund has a very convincing opportunity to confidently advance to the final, but I am sure that in the Champions League, Real Madrid will also provide optimal resistance. They have set up attack patterns, making Dortmund and Madrid have their own way of controlling the ball, but in terms of reputation. You can see that Real Madrid have reliable ball control of the ball on the field. I think they are a strong and experienced team in the Champions League and the Dortmund team also proved that they can enter the semi-finals with a very good effort, even though they were not seeded at the start, in my opinion they went through difficult things, but With persistent efforts, he was finally able to qualify for the semi-finals.

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Yes, I also feel confident, towards Real Madrid. They have a greater chance of winning. Player statistics and their game history show they are superior. But Dortmund seem to be working hard to make history, Dormund having reached the Final in 2013. But they lost, it seems that this will make their motivation double.

Yeah both teams have their respective advantages Real Madrid with confidence and Dortmund with motivation if one of them can play the role well then the title could be closer, even though I favor Real Madrid, I know it's not easy. I just checked the betting markets for this match, clearly we can see that sportsbooks favor Real Madrid it's just that it's not a guarantee that Real Madrid will win, we still remember how Dortmund destroyed PSG when they played away and imagine if they played with the same style in the final then we will watch an interesting match. This match will be played next month, what do you think about both teams to score? or maybe it will end in a penalty shootout?

Just a reminder, don't confuse Real Madrid with PSG and isn't it clear that the Champions League DNA is in the Real Madrid squad. We know that even though Real Madrid have difficulty scoring goals, they always have a way of making a comeback win and maybe Dortmund should be careful if they can score first.

The reason is that this will only make Real Madrid's winning mentality grow stronger and instead of stopping they will continue to fight until the results turn profitable for them. So even if Dortmund could really make things difficult for Real Madrid, Dortmund must be prepared for the worst possibility with a similar incident experienced by Bayern Munich previously.

I think this match could end in a draw in 90 minutes with both teams scoring goals and then we will see the penalty shootout round and we definitely know that here the mentality of all the players is tested. So regardless of the existing betting odds, I would prefer to bet on both teams scoring goals.

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Quote from: naira on May 11, 2024, 09:12:37 AM

I think you are wrong in judging Madrid, even though they are used to winning the UCL trophy, Ancelotti and his troops never underestimate the opponents they will face. If you are right, should there be a statement that Madrid underestimated Dortmund in the final? Both teams respect each other and are professional in what they do on the field.

Ancelotti is very experienced with his career from player to coach through many clubs and many years. He knows that if he underestimate any opponent in a final match, the cost will be very high. Underestimate an opponent in a normal match (not final match) sometimes does not lead to a defeat because in a normal match, opponent can not try too hard. It is different in a final match when the opponent will play as best as possible because it is like only one chance in their player career or very scarce chance.

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Both Dortmund and Madrid realize that finals are about giving their best, not about undermining their opponents. So I don't agree if Madrid considers Dortmund an amateur team.

Real Madrid and Dortmund met each other sometimes in Champions League and a most famous and memorable match is when Dortmund won over Real Madrid with a poker (four goals) from Robert Lewandowski.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on May 10, 2024, 07:37:21 PM

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.

I think you are wrong in judging Madrid, even though they are used to winning the UCL trophy, Ancelotti and his troops never underestimate the opponents they will face. If you are right, should there be a statement that Madrid underestimated Dortmund in the final? Both teams respect each other and are professional in what they do on the field. Both Dortmund and Madrid realize that finals are about giving their best, not about undermining their opponents. So I don't agree if Madrid considers Dortmund an amateur team.

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Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.

It is possible that the result of the final may not go the way majority are expecting. If you do sample opinion poll above who will win the final, majority of the people will say Real Madrid which is understandable but in finals, a lot of things happens. I careful look at how Borussia Dortmund plays will show that coordination and determination. There is hardly any loosed ends, from the defense down to the strikers, all seems to be in their best. This is the reason they were able to turn things around with Atletico Madrid and even embarrassed PSG both home and away. I strongly think that Borussia Dortmund will win the trophy, my opinion might change later but for now, I am giving it to them.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on May 10, 2024, 07:37:21 PM

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.

Even though some say Dortmund's performance is not better than Real Madrid, of course Real Madrid cannot underestimate Dortmund. It's true what you said, Dortmund wouldn't have come this far just to be able to meet Real Madrid and lose, of course they definitely want more results than now, being able to beat Real Madrid is a must for Dortmund. Even though they know that Real Madrid is a team that is difficult to beat, because Real Madrid is a strong team and they can hardly lose when they are in the final, of course Dortmund will definitely do their best.

It makes sense that Real Madrid views Dortmund as an amateur team, because the Real Madrid that has the advantage is the Real Madrid that already has quite a lot of experience. But of course Dortmund will also make things difficult for Real Madrid because they of course want to beat Real Madrid. with what Dortmund has done very well, they can get to this point not without reason, of course they also want the best with their hard work.

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You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

I also don't doubt the abilities that Dortmund has this season, especially in the Champions League, but because their opponent in the final will be Real Madrid, I am starting to have doubts about choosing Dortmund. Because Real Madrid is a team that often makes surprises and extraordinary comebacks in the Champions League and that is still happening this season, although on the one hand Real Madrid will also be quite careful in using its tactics in the final match because it is a match that It is very, very important for Real Madrid and also for Dortmund that both of them will use extraordinary tactics.

There is still a chance for both teams to win the Champions League this season, the only difference is the difference in the percentage of their chances of winning in this final match. I myself give Real Madrid a winning percentage of 60-65%, and give Borussia Dortmund a winning percentage of 35-40%, in my opinion that is the chance between the two teams that will compete in this final. Maybe there are some people who don't agree with me, but I can understand because it will depend on our own judgment.

Borussa Dortmund were actually not the previous favorites, because in the semi-finals they were also not seeded because they were predicted to lose to Paris Saint Germain, but surprisingly they were actually able to beat Paris Saint Germain in 2 matches at once so that the aggregate became 2-0 and managed to get rid of Paris Saint Germain. However, this is a final where both teams will definitely go all out to achieve the best results.

Put on the comparison scale, Dortmund becomes small compared to Real Madrid. Real Madrid is always the king of the Champions League playground. Whenever they reach the final, the Royal Spanish team will always have the upper hand. It's not surprising that Real Madrid is rated higher than Dortmund.

I think Dortmund was extremely disappointed when they learned they had to meet Real in the final. They clearly want their opponent to be Bayern because this season they defeated Thomas Tuchel's army. The ball hasn't rolled yet, but I think Real has a better chance of winning the championship than Dortmund, especially when they have overcome both Man City and Bayern to enter the final match. If Dortmund wins the Champions League this season, it will be football's next unexpected phenomenon - in a time that seems limited by the system and the money gap.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on May 11, 2024, 05:38:02 AM

It true, Real Madrid dominance of the game, possession of the ball and the number of attacks are much greater than Bayern Munich, but it cannot be denied that Bayern Munich is also quite great because they able to keep up with Real Madrid.
A fierce game was presented and we were all shown dramatic match, if it weren't for Joselu, maybe Real Madrid would have lost or would have had to fight on penalties, but everything is clear now.
We have two candidate team who will meet in the final, hopefully Real Madrid can get the title this season because Dortmund is not really strong team, it would be very disappointing if they lost to Dortmund.

Final will take place at the beginning of next month, this is quite long time for both team to prepare their respective strengths in this very important match.
I made Real Madrid the favorite, in the match against Bayern Munich I failed because I chose the first goal on Real Madrid side, but in the final I think I will win.

Real Madrid really deserves to be the favorite in the final match, as you said, Dortmund is not the team that is the favorite to progress to this point, even in the group phase, Dortmund is doubtful that they will be able to get out of the hellish group. However, the Bundesliga representatives had a lot of luck, qualifying as group F winners, beating PSV in the last 16, and eliminating Atletico Madrid in the quarter finals, most recently they sent PSG home. Of course they have something that Real Madrid must be careful of, although on paper beating Dortmund is an easier task to do than beating Bayern Munich. So betting on Real Madrid winning will be quite safe, because the chances of them beating Dortmund are quite higher than vice versa. With a long preparation time, the two coaches will have more freedom to prepare everything. Now that both teams will temporarily focus on their respective domestic leagues, we will reassess their preparations ahead of the match.

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Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich in the first leg was really fierce match and ended in 2 - 2 draw and in the second leg there was very interesting surprise and made everyone happy.
Bayern Munich managed to score their first goal and after that there was chance for Real Madrid to equalize but something unexpected happened where foul was committed and the goal scored was not authorized by the referee, VAR showed everything.
But there was comeback and Joselu managed to score goal thanks to Manuel Neuer mistake in failing to catch the ball when Vinicius shot directly from outside the penalty box which aimed straight at Bayern Munich goal.
Game continued to progress quite dramatically until finally at the start of added time in the second half Joselu scored another goal thanks to an assist provided by Rudiger.
Victory belongs to Real Madrid absolutely and now they will be in the final against Dortmund, if there were no violations, maybe the win would be with score of 3 - 1.

Real Madrid dominated the game and still won the game, to be honest, the match was very tough and exciting to watch, i said it before that if the referee have not ended the game just don’t celebrated when you score goal in the game against Real Madrid because at the end you will be surprised what Real Madrid will do, no any player that Real Madrid will bring that can not make the team proud, just look at what happens and who scored for Real Madrid yesterday, Joselu, Joselu that is not that good enough to score easily, but he turns up by scoring two goals and takes Real Madrid to the final stage of champion league, this is why Real Madrid is always the best team in the Europe and the best team in the world.

Many people are complaining about the goal scored by De Light and the referee said it was offside, it is very clear offside, the league is not a premier league or Laliga, it’s a champion league where they have many instruments and good referees that will never make mistakes and before De light should score the goal the referee has already blow the whistle and said it was offside, if Bayern Munich is not been favored yesterday it will be 3-1 before the game end but the referee knows what he is doing and he makes the game look good.

It true, Real Madrid dominance of the game, possession of the ball and the number of attacks are much greater than Bayern Munich, but it cannot be denied that Bayern Munich is also quite great because they able to keep up with Real Madrid.
A fierce game was presented and we were all shown dramatic match, if it weren't for Joselu, maybe Real Madrid would have lost or would have had to fight on penalties, but everything is clear now.
We have two candidate team who will meet in the final, hopefully Real Madrid can get the title this season because Dortmund is not really strong team, it would be very disappointing if they lost to Dortmund.

Final will take place at the beginning of next month, this is quite long time for both team to prepare their respective strengths in this very important match.
I made Real Madrid the favorite, in the match against Bayern Munich I failed because I chose the first goal on Real Madrid side, but in the final I think I will win.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on May 09, 2024, 01:34:16 PM

They're known for that season after season in the Champions League Competition. Yet again another German side to face in the Champions League finals, it will definitely be a tough one.
Seeing them face Borrussia Dortmund reminds me of Robert Lewandoski and Jurgen Klopp from way back as they knocked out Real Madrid to face Bayern Munich in that year Champions League finals.

Yeah I remember that game. It was a really shocking kind of win though but there have been 10 years since then. Now in the finale I think Real Madrid will beat them in regular time. But it wouldn't be that easy hopefully and we watch some competition. Maybe luck was beside Dortmund against PSG but I can't say it has always been because of luck. It is a deserved finale.

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Thomas Tuchel and his tactics failed him anyways, he substituted Sane and Harry Kane. That was no good idea, truly! I could see the pains from Harry Kane. Hopefully, he gets a good one from the upcoming Euro's Competition.

I didn't understand those substitutions even a bit. Just why? Sane is one of your most talented players. He is a game changer. I don't even need to talk about how great Kane is. Besides Tuchel should have thought of the possibility of penalty shootouts as well. Kane was their best penalty taker.

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Quote from: mammusu on May 11, 2024, 02:46:39 AM

There is still a chance for both teams to win the Champions League this season, the only difference is the difference in the percentage of their chances of winning in this final match. I myself give Real Madrid a winning percentage of 60-65%, and give Borussia Dortmund a winning percentage of 35-40%, in my opinion that is the chance between the two teams that will compete in this final. Maybe there are some people who don't agree with me, but I can understand because it will depend on our own judgment.

Borussa Dortmund were actually not the previous favorites, because in the semi-finals they were also not seeded because they were predicted to lose to Paris Saint Germain, but surprisingly they were actually able to beat Paris Saint Germain in 2 matches at once so that the aggregate became 2-0 and managed to get rid of Paris Saint Germain. However, this is a final where both teams will definitely go all out to achieve the best results.

This season Champions League presents us with many surprises, because indeed many of the favourites have been eliminated at the moment, the final between Madrid and Dortmund is certainly not the ideal final that many people have predicted before but this is where we now see Dortmund will try to destroy Madrid's power in the Champions League this season, what you write is of course quite reasonable because indeed so far Madrid is the favorite to win the league Champions not only during the final but even since the group stage many of us have made Madrid favourites, in contrast to Dortmund who maybe no one even thought they could reach the Champions League final this season.

Honestly, after seeing the difficult journey from Dortmund until they reached the final, of course I personally think if both teams have a 50/50 chance of winning at the moment, we have seen Madrid able to continue to put strong pressure on other teams and even the quality of the squad they have will certainly not be doubted in achieving a victory in each of their matches, but still Dortmund also cannot be underestimated when they can destroy Atletico and also PSG this season.

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You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

I also don't doubt the abilities that Dortmund has this season, especially in the Champions League, but because their opponent in the final will be Real Madrid, I am starting to have doubts about choosing Dortmund. Because Real Madrid is a team that often makes surprises and extraordinary comebacks in the Champions League and that is still happening this season, although on the one hand Real Madrid will also be quite careful in using its tactics in the final match because it is a match that It is very, very important for Real Madrid and also for Dortmund that both of them will use extraordinary tactics.

There is still a chance for both teams to win the Champions League this season, the only difference is the difference in the percentage of their chances of winning in this final match. I myself give Real Madrid a winning percentage of 60-65%, and give Borussia Dortmund a winning percentage of 35-40%, in my opinion that is the chance between the two teams that will compete in this final. Maybe there are some people who don't agree with me, but I can understand because it will depend on our own judgment.

Borussa Dortmund were actually not the previous favorites, because in the semi-finals they were also not seeded because they were predicted to lose to Paris Saint Germain, but surprisingly they were actually able to beat Paris Saint Germain in 2 matches at once so that the aggregate became 2-0 and managed to get rid of Paris Saint Germain. However, this is a final where both teams will definitely go all out to achieve the best results.

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I believe Dortmund are a good team this season and the way they made it to the final in the UCL was fantastic. But if they face Real Madrid in the final match, here we can say for sure that they will never manage with Real Madrid. Because Real Madrid is much stronger and they have a lot of experience in the Champions League and they are called the king of the Champions League, Dortmund may not be able to cope with them even with a lot of attacks. But if Dortmund can be more excited about their game, it is possible to beat Real Madrid, but this season Dortmund say that they have reached the final which is a big achievement for them. Because many big and powerful teams have been knocked out of the Champions League, but due to Dortmund's extraordinary game performance, they have been able to enter the finals. But in the final match of course real madrid is likely to win they have many good stars including strikers so they are strong and very focused to win champions league.

In terms of team strength, Dortmund is not stronger than Real Madrid, but the final match will of course be different, even though Dortmund has a smaller percentage of winning the Champions League title, but the possibility is still there.
That's if we look at the overall strength of the team this season and Dortmund made a surprise so far when they managed to get into the Champions League final this season, no one thought that the Dortmund team could get into the final because their performance in their domestic league this season was not that impressive. but they managed to create a surprise, as well as for the final match, the Champions League final match always presents a fierce match.

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Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.

You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

I believe Dortmund are a good team this season and the way they made it to the final in the UCL was fantastic. But if they face Real Madrid in the final match, here we can say for sure that they will never manage with Real Madrid. Because Real Madrid is much stronger and they have a lot of experience in the Champions League and they are called the king of the Champions League, Dortmund may not be able to cope with them even with a lot of attacks. But if Dortmund can be more excited about their game, it is possible to beat Real Madrid, but this season Dortmund say that they have reached the final which is a big achievement for them. Because many big and powerful teams have been knocked out of the Champions League, but due to Dortmund's extraordinary game performance, they have been able to enter the finals. But in the final match of course real madrid is likely to win they have many good stars including strikers so they are strong and very focused to win champions league.

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Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.

You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

I respect Dortmund a lot, also because it is a German team, and I love everything about Germany, in fact I love its language and I am trying to learn it because it is a country that attracts my attention in every way, and even more so in football, and I have seen how Dortmund plays in the Bundesliga and it is a team that plays if it wants 45 minutes, attacking without stopping and the other 45 without resting, the truth is that the Germans look like machines, Madrid does not have any advantage at a football level, such While it has some rising stars, Dortmund is also in the same conditions as Madrid, I mean it is a UCL finalist, that already means too much, what Madrid has are more trophies and has more experience in reaching finals and winning them , but DORTMUND is a team that has risen in level in an impressive way, therefore I have no idea what could happen, maybe they could spring a surprise and I am 100% from Madrid, may the best win.

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Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily.

Both Dortmund and Real Madrid, no one needs to underestimate each other. Because they are both the best and strongest clubs at the moment, even though there may be stronger ones out there, but for now at UCL, they are both the best. Qualifying for the final round is not an easy thing, and it's not just because of luck. So, both of them will definitely give their best performance so that they can achieve the optimal results possible.

It's just that, if you consider the data, Real Madrid definitely has far more experience in UCL finals than Dortmund. And with this experience, with an experienced coach too, Real Madrid should have a greater chance of winning. However, once again, it is not an easy matter, in every match, especially the Champions final, there will always be a lot of things happening on the field throughout the match. Biak Anceloti and Terzic will definitely develop various strategies that are most fixed and appropriate to suit their position and that of their opponent.

Yea both teams should not take each other for granted, as it is, I think Dortmund and Madrid concentration is the champions league, the preparation is more important for both teams than their league, Madrid is already the champions of laliga, German bundeliga liga has been announced already, so for Dortmund that league has finished, they will do everything possible to avoid any injury in their team likewise Madrid, both team making it to the finals was not an easy fight but here they are today, personally I feel that Madrid can never take any team unserious when it comes to the champions league finals, lets not also forget that Dortmund sees this as an opportunity too and will want to make it a dream come through by all means, yea, we have seen that Madrid is more exposed and experienced in the champions league than their opponent but history may refuse to repeat itself this time, that's should be more reason why they have to up their games in that match.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on May 10, 2024, 11:34:57 PM

You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

I also don't doubt the abilities that Dortmund has this season, especially in the Champions League, but because their opponent in the final will be Real Madrid, I am starting to have doubts about choosing Dortmund. Because Real Madrid is a team that often makes surprises and extraordinary comebacks in the Champions League and that is still happening this season, although on the one hand Real Madrid will also be quite careful in using its tactics in the final match because it is a match that It is very, very important for Real Madrid and also for Dortmund that both of them will use extraordinary tactics.

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Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.

Dortmund cannot be looked down on too much, they’ve exhibited an exemplary display of performance from the beginning of the tournament till them getting to the finals of the competition. They wouldn’t have come this far to just allow Real Madrid to beat them and win the trophy easily. It is suppose to be a tough match that will be difficult for the both sides to even decide the winner as the match is going on. More favorable is Real Madrid because of how they’ve won the trophy several times and will look down on Dortmund as amateur. Dortmund can surprise us on that day but the probability of them winning is still low though. What I’m sure is that Dortmund won’t make it easy for Real Madrid to win and Real Madrid should not also be too cool on them thinking they can easily defeat them.

You are one of those people who believe that Dortmund can possibly win he UCL title and i strongly can agree with you.

Dortmund has tremendously played well during the qualification to the final and they will do more in the final. They know they are no match for Real Madrid when it comes to holding the ball that is why they will give the ball to Madrid to play and have all the possession all they need is one corner, free kick or a counter attack that would change everything. Their defense are not doing that bad at least they could the striker of Real Madrid for some time.

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