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legendary
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January 23, 2024, 06:47:26 AM
I agree with the ranking list you have made. I don't know why some people above me are commenting about Barcelona being in fourth place. And I also don't agree with placing Barcelona other than sixth. The list you have made is very precise with what I predicted. Madrid has the biggest opportunity this season if you look at their extraordinary performance. City were initially favorites at the top but injuries to KDB and Haaland left him in second place. I thought about putting Arsenal above Inter Milan but it's not something big because both are at the same level.
Barcelona shouldn't be in the list because they're struggling to fit into the system of balance. Pep Guardiola is my own favorite coach, he's important and makes football enjoyable because he's always on the top followed by Real Madrid. A club's level is determined by the performance exhibited by the club and their players. Manchester City remained first because their key players have returned to training, remember Kelvin De Bruyne is back and have scored and aissts for his team unlike some players that have no contribution to the growth of their club.
Kevin De Bruyne is a very important player for the team and Manchester City are lucky to have him back in training. We can say that it was a generally bad season for Barcelona. Even if we see Guardiola come to Barcelona as a coach, I don't think anything will change because Barcelona is problematic in other aspects. Without improving the financial situation, they do not have much chance for long-term victories.
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January 23, 2024, 06:31:59 AM
Not all teams have the opportunity to go further because the Champions League is not only about the ability to handle the team, deal with pressure or the mental readiness of the players. The Champions League is full of conditions because there are big challenges that must be overcome by any team that is competing and if they make a mistake in maximizing their opportunities then they will automatically be eliminated.

Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have always been the favorite teams even though in the end they failed to advance to the final or win the league. The level of these two clubs is regularly in the Champions League so they should be wary of when facing any other team. Manchester City may still be the favorite because they were candidates to win last season, but in my opinion this season they will not reach the final.
In the knockout round, anything is possible and in Champions League matches there is a different tension compared to matches in the domestic league, so every team must have a high mentality to be able to compete fiercely in the UCL.
Even though they were eliminated, top teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich were favored, which is quite natural, in football anything is possible and even so, there are still teams that are initially favored, surprises that occur in the UCL are commonplace.
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January 23, 2024, 06:26:54 AM
A team that I consider a favourite today may perform poorly after a while or my favourite player may change. Also, since I have personal freedom, I can keep any club I want on my favourite list. If a team is good I will definitely support it. I'm also not in favour of supporting a team emotionally while people enjoy the game and are there for entertainment. I think my own preferences may change over time. No team should be emotionally supported for entertainment or betting purposes.
This is also what I do, I analyze and determine who will win because I will also include it in my betting list. If later it causes me to lose, that is the risk of a bet that must be prepared to lose. IN the Champions League I am always neutral and judge based on their overall performance, apart from that I will look at the mentality of a club. Because I see in the Champions League the mentality of being one who takes part in the results that the club will get in the future. Because usually a club with a high mentality will be more comfortable in playing, and in a game comfort is something that can bring victory.
Manchester City, Real Madrid are the 2 favorites, Inter Milan is also in my category, apart from that a club like Bayern Munich is also actually one of them, but I personally put a smaller chance.

In my own list this is how I rank em up;

1) Real Madrid
2) Manchester City
3) Bayern Munich
4) Inter Milan
5) Arsenal
6) Barcelona

I do think that Porto would be tough on Arsenal but they'll qualify ahead of them to the next round. I remember the last club that knocked them out of the Europa League Competition last season was Sporting Lisbon. As for Barcelona, they're one team with lot of inconsistency. Could they defeat Napoli? They could finally do that but they will not escape if they fail to sign up a good defensive midfielder. According to Cristiano Ronaldo, Manchester City are his number 1 option to win the Champions League Competition.
To be fair, we also need to analyze the clubs that will qualify for the quarter-finals and their ranking is Dortmund in 7th position and PSG in 8th position. Maybe these clubs are believed to be according to the ranking you determined but Manchester City is still the favorite to win the title again. because the important players are returning to strengthen Manchester City, like last season they won the Champions League title, but Real Madrid still has a big chance of winning the title considering that Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League title and has won many of these titles.

I'm not sure Porto can beat Arsenal in the round of 16 considering Arsenal's very impressive performance in the Premier League at the moment. We know that Premier League clubs are not easily beaten by other league clubs, especially Porto. We can see in the group stage that Porto failed to beat Barcelona who are currently not very impressive and I think to beat Arsenal they need a very hard effort but Arsenal will not let that defeat happen.
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January 23, 2024, 06:02:00 AM
Not all teams have the opportunity to go further because the Champions League is not only about the ability to handle the team, deal with pressure or the mental readiness of the players. The Champions League is full of conditions because there are big challenges that must be overcome by any team that is competing and if they make a mistake in maximizing their opportunities then they will automatically be eliminated.

Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have always been the favorite teams even though in the end they failed to advance to the final or win the league. The level of these two clubs is regularly in the Champions League so they should be wary of when facing any other team. Manchester City may still be the favorite because they were candidates to win last season, but in my opinion this season they will not reach the final.

I hope that closer to the final, Tuchel will change something in the team, because Bayern now does not look very confident, from poor defense to unstable play.

Why do you think City won't reach the final this season? In my opinion, the ideal final would be Real - City, at the moment, these two teams seem to me the most worthy contenders for winning the tournament. And I would like Guardiola to be able to win this tournament twice in a row, this would be an excellent achievement for such a coach. But Real also looks very strong now, so the chances of these teams are equal.
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January 23, 2024, 05:50:55 AM
Barcelona are in a complicated situation now. Xavi is having really tough days and he lately had an argument with the players about their performance. I don't see Barcelona as a serious title contender either as a result. We all saw what Real Madrid did to them in the Spanish Super Cup. Barcelona are staying weak against strong opponents.  Sad

I even expect Barcelona to get eliminated against Napoli with this performance. I'm saying this even though I know Napoli are worse than last season.

Do you think Barcelona can eliminate Napoli by playing like this?
But strangely, this arrogant coach is still very optimistic about winning the treble this season and this was revealed in his latest interview. I can't understand how Xavi can be that confident about his team's performance and even winning one title is impossible this season. I think his level of confidence is too crazy and he doesn't realize that his current position is increasingly threatened as Barcelona coach.

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I would be very happy if Barcelona would go home first in the round of 16 and hope Napoli can do it. In terms of performance, Napoli is almost no different from Barcelona, but I think Napoli is still better. I want to see Xavi's face full of regret because he didn't realize his current position was so bad in handling Barcelona.
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January 23, 2024, 04:11:54 AM
Because the Champions League is the best club competition in the world, tension and pressure are to be expected. All clubs valued the importance for them to qualify and every one of them and the players fantasized to win the trophy.

I have a similar opinion on Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. These two clubs are never to be counted out and they are continuously playing to the upper levels in the Champions League. This season, I include the previous champion Machester City as one of the solid candidates. Inter Milan was halfway fortunate last season to play at the finals. It is a long shot for Inter to play again in the finals this season, but surprises happen.
Not all teams have the opportunity to go further because the Champions League is not only about the ability to handle the team, deal with pressure or the mental readiness of the players. The Champions League is full of conditions because there are big challenges that must be overcome by any team that is competing and if they make a mistake in maximizing their opportunities then they will automatically be eliminated.

Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have always been the favorite teams even though in the end they failed to advance to the final or win the league. The level of these two clubs is regularly in the Champions League so they should be wary of when facing any other team. Manchester City may still be the favorite because they were candidates to win last season, but in my opinion this season they will not reach the final.
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January 23, 2024, 04:04:22 AM
Barcelona are in a complicated situation now. Xavi is having really tough days and he lately had an argument with the players about their performance. I don't see Barcelona as a serious title contender either as a result. We all saw what Real Madrid did to them in the Spanish Super Cup. Barcelona are staying weak against strong opponents.  Sad

I even expect Barcelona to get eliminated against Napoli with this performance. I'm saying this even though I know Napoli are worse than last season.

Do you think Barcelona can eliminate Napoli by playing like this?
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January 23, 2024, 03:50:23 AM
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The impressive performance of Real Madrid deserves to go with the trophy this season, but what many are thinking will be the barrier to their victory is Manchester City, but to me, I can say that Real Madrid will surely win the trophy, although all how you rank those teams up is looking more like a sure prediction because it might work that way, and Barcelona deserves their position. You put them as the 6th because of their poor performance this season. I see no reason that Barcelona will even think to reach the semifinals because their performance is not up to the standard, but we can’t just conclude.

Inter Milan and Arsenal performances are all the same, but if you compare with effective consideration, you will see that Arsenal performance is somehow more than Inter Milan, but I believe more in Inter Milan than Arsenal. The positive you kept Bayern Munich as the 3rd is also ok because they are also trying their best to maintain the standard, but they should never think of winning the trophy, which is very heavy for the team.
That's an interesting perspective on the potential outcomes of the season with Real Madrid being the most favorite due to their performances and the challenges posed by other teams. They are surely the favorite to win the trophy this season with their strong mentality and their recent performances, but I agree with Manchester City being their barrier, because Manchester City have more complete squad.

Regarding Barcelona, reaching the semifinal will be great for them due to their poor performances this season. Xavi's track record in Champions league as manager is also not so good. But I think they should have better chance than Arsenal, because they have a better mentality and history than Arsenal. Inter Milan as a finalist is well-rated in the list, because they have not improved much nor declined. Bayern should also be one of the favorites, but they seem to not having improvement from last season except replacing Mane with Kane.
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January 23, 2024, 03:47:25 AM
The impressive performance of Real Madrid deserves to go with the trophy this season, but what many are thinking will be the barrier to their victory is Manchester City, but to me, I can say that Real Madrid will surely win the trophy, although all how you rank those teams up is looking more like a sure prediction because it might work that way, and Barcelona deserves their position. You put them as the 6th because of their poor performance this season.
Actually the champions League this season has a lot of competitive teams than last season champion league that's why it was very easy for Manchester City although they were very much in a good performance but there rivals were not much compare to this season champions League were so many clubs are seriously trying to create a good record for themselves so it will actually be very difficult knowing the exact club that will become the champion of this season.

But however just like I mention on my other post I have a strong feeling that the champion of this season will fall between real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City because those are the clubs that there performance has been consistent than every other clubs on the league but right now real Madrid has been really proving there worth that they have all it takes to win the league followed by Bayern Munich but however in times of Manchester City I really can't tell because the performance and courage they had last season is totally different from what I'm seeing this season.
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January 23, 2024, 02:05:09 AM
Barcelona shouldn't be in the list because they're struggling to fit into the system of balance. Pep Guardiola is my own favorite coach, he's important and makes football enjoyable because he's always on the top followed by Real Madrid. A club's level is determined by the performance exhibited by the club and their players. Manchester City remained first because their key players have returned to training, remember Kelvin De Bruyne is back and have scored and aissts for his team unlike some players that have no contribution to the growth of their club.
I agree with you on this, Barcelona should be excluded from the list because they are inconsistent at the moment struggling to win matches and compared to other teams they are matches are not as enjoyable as other teams in the list.

A teams level is determined it’s performance as you stated and that’s why I would disagree with you about Manchester City remaining first, don’t rate them based on past performance, to be sincere Manchester City are lacking behind Real Madrid and Inter Milan at the moment. I so much enjoy the energy and mentality Inter Milan approach a match with and so far this season they have been more clinical in the attack so they can’t be underrated this season.
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January 23, 2024, 01:21:31 AM
I agree with the ranking list you have made. I don't know why some people above me are commenting about Barcelona being in fourth place. And I also don't agree with placing Barcelona other than sixth. The list you have made is very precise with what I predicted. Madrid has the biggest opportunity this season if you look at their extraordinary performance. City were initially favorites at the top but injuries to KDB and Haaland left him in second place. I thought about putting Arsenal above Inter Milan but it's not something big because both are at the same level.
Barcelona shouldn't be in the list because they're struggling to fit into the system of balance. Pep Guardiola is my own favorite coach, he's important and makes football enjoyable because he's always on the top followed by Real Madrid. A club's level is determined by the performance exhibited by the club and their players. Manchester City remained first because their key players have returned to training, remember Kelvin De Bruyne is back and have scored and aissts for his team unlike some players that have no contribution to the growth of their club.
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January 23, 2024, 01:18:07 AM
In my own list this is how I rank em up;

1) Real Madrid
2) Manchester City
3) Bayern Munich
4) Inter Milan
5) Arsenal
6) Barcelona

I do think that Porto would be tough on Arsenal but they'll qualify ahead of them to the next round. I remember the last club that knocked them out of the Europa League Competition last season was Sporting Lisbon. As for Barcelona, they're one team with lot of inconsistency. Could they defeat Napoli? They could finally do that but they will not escape if they fail to sign up a good defensive midfielder. According to Cristiano Ronaldo, Manchester City are his number 1 option to win the Champions League Competition.

The impressive performance of Real Madrid deserves to go with the trophy this season, but what many are thinking will be the barrier to their victory is Manchester City, but to me, I can say that Real Madrid will surely win the trophy, although all how you rank those teams up is looking more like a sure prediction because it might work that way, and Barcelona deserves their position. You put them as the 6th because of their poor performance this season. I see no reason that Barcelona will even think to reach the semifinals because their performance is not up to the standard, but we can’t just conclude.

Inter Milan and Arsenal performances are all the same, but if you compare with effective consideration, you will see that Arsenal performance is somehow more than Inter Milan, but I believe more in Inter Milan than Arsenal. The positive you kept Bayern Munich as the 3rd is also ok because they are also trying their best to maintain the standard, but they should never think of winning the trophy, which is very heavy for the team.
legendary
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January 23, 2024, 12:17:50 AM
In the knockout round of the last 16 of the Champions League, it is filled with the best teams in Europe, I don't think there will be a team that will underestimate its opponent.
In terms of quality, of course Manchester City are the favorites, but that doesn't mean they will easily beat Copenhagen, I think anything is still possible and even if a favorite team loses, it won't be a big surprise in the UCL because we have seen it often in previous seasons.
If an underdog beats one of the favorites this would happen not because they were underestimated but simply because they played the best soccer out of the two teams, since most of the players of those teams not only receive the best psychical training they can get, they also receive psychological counseling to help them overcome those kind of tendencies, so even if Copenhagen does not have the same quality of players that Manchester City has, they will not underestimate them just because of that factor.
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January 23, 2024, 12:12:15 AM
Yes, I was also very impressed to see FC Copenhagen in the preliminary round until they were able to qualify for the knockout phase. Even though previously the Danish representatives did not get a good assessment at all to be able to qualify and it turns out they were able to prove that.

FC Copenhagen will certainly bring the same enthusiasm when they meet Manchester City. I think Copenhagen will carry out the same maneuver again during the group stage and they will not be burdened at all. Due to what has been done, Manchester City must be aware of this threat, because even though City is very favored, Copenhagen cannot be taken lightly as an opponent.
Initially, I personally underestimated Copenhagen. Especially after they lost to Man United in the first Copenhagen meeting in the group stage. But in the second meeting against Man United I was surprised because Copenhagen were able to avenge their defeat in the first match by winning the second match. And my surprise also increased when I saw that Copenhagen was able to hold Bayern to a draw. Even though I think Bayern's current performance is at their best. But Copenhagen can keep up with it. Even though Bayern continued to control the game at that time, Copenhagen also occasionally made things difficult for Bayern with their counter attacks.

So I also think that Pep Guardiola's troops must be careful and not underestimate Copenhagen. Because maybe Copenhagen will give you a surprise. But because maybe by then Haaland will have returned and now De Bruyne will also be active again, I think Man City will still not lose to Copenhagen. Unless Man City is careless and underestimates their opponent.
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January 22, 2024, 11:59:14 PM
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Yes, I was also very impressed to see FC Copenhagen in the preliminary round until they were able to qualify for the knockout phase. Even though previously the Danish representatives did not get a good assessment at all to be able to qualify and it turns out they were able to prove that.

FC Copenhagen will certainly bring the same enthusiasm when they meet Manchester City. I think Copenhagen will carry out the same maneuver again during the group stage and they will not be burdened at all. Due to what has been done, Manchester City must be aware of this threat, because even though City is very favored, Copenhagen cannot be taken lightly as an opponent.
Pep Guardiola is a great coach and very experienced in this competition, he managed to give his team the UCL title after successfully overcoming various obstacles starting from the group stage to the final round. Of course he will not underestimate Copenhagen, even though Manchester City is statistically superior to Copenhagen, he will still field his best squad with the attack scheme that has been used when Manchester City played in Big Matches.

Copenhagen must consider all aspects when facing Manchester City, they can maneuver, but must not play openly because they will be very vulnerable to defeat due to Manchester City very fast and deadly attacks. Surprises are possible, but Manchester City will not let that happen.
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January 22, 2024, 09:14:12 PM
Absolutely right. Last season, Real lost to a weak Barcelona, and Bayern practically lost the title to Dortmund (but they couldn’t take it in the last round) and City’s victory in the Champions League against the backdrop of such weakened competitors looked like a freebie. This year Bayern solved their problem with a striker, and although Real Madrid have not solved this problem, they have Bellingham + Vinny who are a nightmare for any defense. Taking into account the fact that now City also has problems with the squad, everyone is in an approximately equal situation, much will depend on the timing of personal meetings. If one team is in the optimal composition and the other is not, then of course this will greatly shift the chances.
Every team has its own problems after half a season. Most of them have lost strength due to injuries, but I think Bayer is the most stable so far. Entering this sprint stage, just one small mistake can cost a lot. The upcoming addition to the squad could be a big turning point for the rest of the season. In addition to the player factor, we need to take into account the experience of the Coach. If you have a strong squad but the coach does not managed well, the club will still able to lose. In this aspect, I appreciate Pep and Ancelotti the most.
Last season real Madrid and Bayern Munich aren't the same bro, changes is bound to happen and this time around the table might turn. If you were saying this thing like a month ago I would have argued with you vividly because the Manchester city that was playing was really shaky to even play with the might of real Madrid and harry Kane Bayern Munich but seeing that the magnificent Belgium has resumed game time and I would not that Manchester city will defeat Bayern and also real Madrid because the presence of Kevin changes alot of things.
It seems like you overestimated Kevin. Agree with you that Kevin's return at this time is very urgent for Mancity, it is easier for them to play their style of play than before. I also highly appreciate Kevin's abilities, but in the UCL arena is a different story. With the weakness of age and newly recovered injury, I think Kevin will be somewhat inferior to Real and Bayern, especially in the competition duels in the midfield. It is not easy for Mancity to freely deploy their playing style like playing in the Premier League.
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January 22, 2024, 04:30:30 PM
Yes, I was also very impressed to see FC Copenhagen in the preliminary round until they were able to qualify for the knockout phase. Even though previously the Danish representatives did not get a good assessment at all to be able to qualify and it turns out they were able to prove that.

FC Copenhagen will certainly bring the same enthusiasm when they meet Manchester City. I think Copenhagen will carry out the same maneuver again during the group stage and they will not be burdened at all. Due to what has been done, Manchester City must be aware of this threat, because even though City is very favored, Copenhagen cannot be taken lightly as an opponent.
Yes, exactly. Even though Manchester City was very superior in the first leg, Manchester City should not consider Copenhagen as a weak team because in the group phase they managed to win against Man United and Galatasaray. they have shown that they can definitely pose a serious threat to any of their opponents and even managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw in the group phase.

Moreover, the first leg match will be held at Copenhagen's home ground, of course this will be a motivation to play in front of his own supporters. And make no mistake in the last meeting, Manchester City drew away from home when they hosted Copenhagen. I think they will do the same in the first leg. They will play defensively and wait for a counterattack so they can create a surprise in this match.
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January 22, 2024, 04:18:31 PM
If given a prediction of which four teams will play in the Champions League semi-finals, I think most people would have the same prediction. Manchester City and Real Madrid will surely have a place in everyone's predictions. Along with Real Madrid and Manchester City, Bayern Munich will be among the favorites in the Champions League this season.  We can definitely consider these three teams as favorites for the Champions League this season. I think one or two of these three teams will qualify for the finals. I would confirm Real Madrid if they had a quality finisher in their squad but they don't have a quality finisher in their squad at the moment so they may lose their consistent performance in the big games. All things considered, Manchester City can be placed at the top of the list of favourites.
With our minds, we have various clubs we're supporting. Very interesting UCL fight it will be for these elite teams who will not back down from doing their best to ensure there are competitive race for major titles. The rankings are correct because these teams mentioned are the top clubs having good fights for the UCL title this season. We should be more concerned with Real Madrid and Manchester City because they're the only contenders with streak unbeaten run and they've proven themselves to be topping favorites to enter the grand finale of UEFA Champions League.
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January 22, 2024, 03:59:25 PM
A team that I consider a favourite today may perform poorly after a while or my favourite player may change. Also, since I have personal freedom, I can keep any club I want on my favourite list. If a team is good I will definitely support it. I'm also not in favour of supporting a team emotionally while people enjoy the game and are there for entertainment. I think my own preferences may change over time. No team should be emotionally supported for entertainment or betting purposes.
I think everyone has their own goals and reasons for supporting any team, because there are also true fans who continue to desperately support one team without wanting to support another team even though the team they support is no better than their own rival team. But for bettors and entertainment seekers it will certainly be very different from true fans who are generally very fanatical about one team even though the conditions are different from last season to this season.
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January 22, 2024, 03:56:33 PM
In my own list this is how I rank em up;

1) Real Madrid
2) Manchester City
3) Bayern Munich
4) Inter Milan
5) Arsenal
6) Barcelona
I agree with the ranking list you have made. I don't know why some people above me are commenting about Barcelona being in fourth place. And I also don't agree with placing Barcelona other than sixth. The list you have made is very precise with what I predicted. Madrid has the biggest opportunity this season if you look at their extraordinary performance. City were initially favorites at the top but injuries to KDB and Haaland left him in second place. I thought about putting Arsenal above Inter Milan but it's not something big because both are at the same level.
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