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January 08, 2024, 01:31:13 PM
Although Dortmund has better experience in the Champion League compared to PSV, but I think it still does not fully guarantee for Dortmund to be able to beat PSV . Indeed, Dortmund are in the hell group in the group stage but still, PSG and Milan also have a performance that is not completely stable at that moment. With this factor, then I cannot assume it is entirely possible about Dortmund being better than PSG and Milan.

After all, in this season the fact is that PSV also has very good results in the Eredivisie, because PSV managed to win all its matches in the first half of the season. Indeed, the results of matches in the domestic league cannot be fully used as a benchmark for their performance in the Champion League. But yes, at least with the good results PSV has in the domestic league is likely to make PSV's morale also remain good in the round of 16 against Dortmund later.
I think Dortmund have different mentality this season. They are good in Champions League, but scrumble in Bundesliga. They may still be carrying on the effect of last season failure. They look uninterest in the Bundesliga, but full motivated in Champions League. Dortmund have a better experience in the Champions League compared to PSV if we just count the latest Era, because PSV also have proper history in Champions league, But past experience alone doesn't guarantee success in a specific encounter.

PSV have a stable morale with doing excellent results in the Eredivisie and progressing to the round of 16. This aspect of them is better than Dortmund's, but the Champions League is a different competition with its own dynamics. No body had thought that Dortmund would do good at a tough group stage. I think Dortmund will show their best in Champions League to compesate their performance in Bundesliga.

Regardless of Dortmund's performance in qualifying for the round of 16 in a difficult group, Dortmund doesn't seem very reliable, especially considering the results of their last 6 matches in all competitions. Dortmund has never won in its last 6 matches, including the Bundesliga, Champions League group stage matches and also the DFB Cup. Therefore, I am not sure that Dortmund will go higher in the Champions League this season even if PSV is also not very hopeful.

In the Champions League, PSV and Dortmund both have the opportunity to qualify for the quarter-finals. PSV plays at home first and then visits Dortmund, but Dortmund is a team that may have a higher probability than PSV. I'm not sure about one of them, but Dortmund have good experience in the Champions League.
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January 08, 2024, 12:59:52 PM
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Although Dortmund has better experience in the Champion League compared to PSV, but I think it still does not fully guarantee for Dortmund to be able to beat PSV . Indeed, Dortmund are in the hell group in the group stage but still, PSG and Milan also have a performance that is not completely stable at that moment. With this factor, then I cannot assume it is entirely possible about Dortmund being better than PSG and Milan.

After all, in this season the fact is that PSV also has very good results in the Eredivisie, because PSV managed to win all its matches in the first half of the season. Indeed, the results of matches in the domestic league cannot be fully used as a benchmark for their performance in the Champion League. But yes, at least with the good results PSV has in the domestic league is likely to make PSV's morale also remain good in the round of 16 against Dortmund later.
I think Dortmund have different mentality this season. They are good in Champions League, but scrumble in Bundesliga. They may still be carrying on the effect of last season failure. They look uninterest in the Bundesliga, but full motivated in Champions League. Dortmund have a better experience in the Champions League compared to PSV if we just count the latest Era, because PSV also have proper history in Champions league, But past experience alone doesn't guarantee success in a specific encounter.

PSV have a stable morale with doing excellent results in the Eredivisie and progressing to the round of 16. This aspect of them is better than Dortmund's, but the Champions League is a different competition with its own dynamics. No body had thought that Dortmund would do good at a tough group stage. I think Dortmund will show their best in Champions League to compesate their performance in Bundesliga.
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January 08, 2024, 12:52:03 PM
Kevin De Bruyne returned strongly by the FA Cup game Manchester City played recently. A very short time after he was subbed in by Guardiola he made a nice assist.  Smiley

This is De Bruyne. He is always ready to make difference for Manchester City unless he is injured. He is a smart player and makes a lot of contribution to his team thanks to that. Guardiola will hope for him not to get injured until the rest of the season as of now. Because they need him not only in the Premier League but also in the Champions League to go big for the championship. Together with Haaland they are like a machine.  Smiley

That is what I like the most about him and I think he is even the kind of honest player who would tell his coach to not risk to let him play because he feels as if he can't go 100% for the team. If he feels that his support in the team is less than 100%, he would probably refrain from playing.

He is an upright player who doesn't value bling bling, any weird answers in interviews or just lies when he is asked questions. He is one of my favorite players exactly for that reason.

When a player like him leaves the stage it is bad for soccer, but I hope that he will be around for a few years. Hopefully he can play the European championship with Belgium.
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January 08, 2024, 12:36:10 PM
Kevin De Bruyne returned strongly by the FA Cup game Manchester City played recently. A very short time after he was subbed in by Guardiola he made a nice assist.  Smiley

This is De Bruyne. He is always ready to make difference for Manchester City unless he is injured. He is a smart player and makes a lot of contribution to his team thanks to that. Guardiola will hope for him not to get injured until the rest of the season as of now. Because they need him not only in the Premier League but also in the Champions League to go big for the championship. Together with Haaland they are like a machine.  Smiley
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January 08, 2024, 12:27:01 PM

The combination of Erling Haaland and Kelvin De Bryune is really what I tag as "cause trouble" because you can really spot the difference when this two players are being featured together in a match and when they ain't featured together but it's just unfortunate that Kelvin De Bryune has been absent due injuries and his return to fitness and to the pitch of play against their match with Huddersfield was really a huge celebration for Manchester city because his impact in the club is superb.

 Erling Haaland who hasn't featured since Manchester city's match against Aston villa due to injury is also speculated by Pep Guardiola to return in their match against Newcastle on Saturday so it will really been an awesome combination to see both Erling Haaland and Kelvin De Bryune play together ones again.


Kevin De Bruyne, Jeremy Doku, Rodri, Bernado Silva are all ready for both the Champions League and also the Premier League. Pep Guardiola and his players will do a lot of harm and show who's boss.
Manchester United couldn't do well against Copenhagen during the group stage, now Manchester City will do same against them during the round of sixteen.
They wouldn't get it easy because they also caused trouble to Bayern Munich who struggled on both accounts when they played against them before they finally won.

Erling Haaland is already back from Injury, he is not completely ready but he has been running around on the grass while waiting for him chances on the big games.
You forgot to mention stones and he was also a great player owner by manchester city. It's just matter of time until the strongest team in the world last season was coming back again. De bruyne and doku have been showing very impressive stats against huddersfield.

It can be called as a signal if manchester city will be ready to beat any team like last season. Real madrid probably the only strongest opponent for city. I expect haaland and stones will be coming back soon. Glad to see that bruyne is back!!!!

People are hyping him a lot during the game in the FA cup. Copenhagen was not in the same level as manchester city when it has all of its keyplayers play for city. It must be noted that if manchester united was not even strong like the secondary squad of city.

I think that we shall not able to compere these clubs.
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January 08, 2024, 12:26:01 PM
This year uefa champions league round of 16 is not tough, the only tough matches in the round of 16 are Barcelona vs Napoli and Atletico Madrid vs Inter Milan. I see Borussia Dortmund winning against PSV because Dortmund is more experienced than PSV in the uefa champions League, and Borussia Dortmund topped the group where clubs like PSG and AC Milan are.
The matches for the round of 16 have not yet started because all matches for the Champions League will resume in mid-February even though many people have made predictions from now on. You may say that Borussia Dortmund is more experienced in the Champions League than PSV, but this season there could be quite different results because PSV is also quite strong this season so Borussia Dortmund cannot be careless with the experience they have.

Although Dortmund has better experience in the Champion League compared to PSV, but I think it still does not fully guarantee for Dortmund to be able to beat PSV . Indeed, Dortmund are in the hell group in the group stage but still, PSG and Milan also have a performance that is not completely stable at that moment. With this factor, then I cannot assume it is entirely possible about Dortmund being better than PSG and Milan.

After all, in this season the fact is that PSV also has very good results in the Eredivisie, because PSV managed to win all its matches in the first half of the season. Indeed, the results of matches in the domestic league cannot be fully used as a benchmark for their performance in the Champion League. But yes, at least with the good results PSV has in the domestic league is likely to make PSV's morale also remain good in the round of 16 against Dortmund later.
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January 08, 2024, 12:23:20 PM
I'd say Real will win the 23/24 edition. I don't really see City as a force they were last season, and unless there's a huge upset by some of the other squads, which ain't impossible, Real should be the king once again. My XFUN bet reflects this expectation, and I'm thinking about placing another one on Bayern, but it's still a work in progress
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January 08, 2024, 12:19:00 PM
Yes, I admit that Real Madrid is one of the big clubs that has very quality players, even almost perfect. If you get the right striker, it will be even more perfect and Ancelotti and the management are always careful and very thorough before bringing in new players and usually choose players. who has long-term talent.
This is the reason why Real Madrid does not lack players because in fact almost all of the players that Ancelotti has all have very reliable talents.
So it is indeed appropriate if we continue to praise Real Madrid because this club is truly very consistent and it is natural for me if Real Madrid can still win the Champions League trophy this season.
Indeed. If Real Madrid could sign a proper striker for their squad, Real Madrid will be a very strong team. They already targeted to sign Mbappe or Osimhen, but we still can't see the result of their negotiation with those players. However, I'm sure Real Madrid will get the right striker in the next transfer window (after the season end). I doubt if Real Madrid will sign a top striker in the current transfer window. Ancelotti seems to keep focusing on their current players. Ancelotti is very careful to select the new players.

Sure, Real Madrid still has the chance to win the title this season with the existing players. They have enough quality players, they only has no top striker in their attacking line.


It's a little confusing because currently Real Madrid is linked with great strikers like Mbappe, Osimhen and Haaland, only Harry Kane has not been linked with Real Madrid.
It's only natural to always be associated with this great player because Real Madrid current difficulties only lie in strikers who don't have pure striker player to help sharpen Real Madrid chances of winning and we can probably only speculate who will be willing. joining Real Madrid but what certain is that Ancelotti probably doesn't need to focus too much on the plan to recruit this player because the coach also has to focus on maintaining his performance in the Champions League this season. Maybe if he can't bring in striker players, it looks like Real madrid will have a little difficulty achieving achievements here, but I always believed that Ancelotti could overcome all this and the management retained Ancelotti, this was the reason because the coach was considered a great coach who was able to bring Real Madrid to win the Champions League trophy.
I also have no doubts about Real Madrid, even though they will only compete with existing players, but this club is very experienced here.
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January 08, 2024, 12:17:24 PM
If you go through the fixtures of the uefa champions league round of 16 you will see that most matches there are not tough, we already know the clubs that will be knocked out in the round of 16. It will be hard for an upset to happen because those big clubs will want to score so many goals against the weak clubs to make the second tie easier.
The easy running clubs are craving for important phases and good rewards. The mediocre teams are not competitive hard enough, but they have this thing called "lucky stars" which serves an important aides for these clubs. The fixtures we have are not competitive enough, there are matches that are consider tough but we have to keep our ears to the winning sounds. Normally, we don't have tough matches in the UEFA Champions League round of 16. It will be simple to decide which team will ascend to next phase of the UEFA Champions League competition.
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January 08, 2024, 11:19:54 AM

The combination of Erling Haaland and Kelvin De Bryune is really what I tag as "cause trouble" because you can really spot the difference when this two players are being featured together in a match and when they ain't featured together but it's just unfortunate that Kelvin De Bryune has been absent due injuries and his return to fitness and to the pitch of play against their match with Huddersfield was really a huge celebration for Manchester city because his impact in the club is superb.

 Erling Haaland who hasn't featured since Manchester city's match against Aston villa due to injury is also speculated by Pep Guardiola to return in their match against Newcastle on Saturday so it will really been an awesome combination to see both Erling Haaland and Kelvin De Bryune play together ones again.


Kevin De Bruyne, Jeremy Doku, Rodri, Bernado Silva are all ready for both the Champions League and also the Premier League. Pep Guardiola and his players will do a lot of harm and show who's boss.
Manchester United couldn't do well against Copenhagen during the group stage, now Manchester City will do same against them during the round of sixteen.
They wouldn't get it easy because they also caused trouble to Bayern Munich who struggled on both accounts when they played against them before they finally won.

Erling Haaland is already back from Injury, he is not completely ready but he has been running around on the grass while waiting for him chances on the big games.
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January 08, 2024, 10:44:39 AM
This year uefa champions league round of 16 is not tough, the only tough matches in the round of 16 are Barcelona vs Napoli and Atletico Madrid vs Inter Milan. I see Borussia Dortmund winning against PSV because Dortmund is more experienced than PSV in the uefa champions League, and Borussia Dortmund topped the group where clubs like PSG and AC Milan are.
The matches for the round of 16 have not yet started because all matches for the Champions League will resume in mid-February even though many people have made predictions from now on. You may say that Borussia Dortmund is more experienced in the Champions League than PSV, but this season there could be quite different results because PSV is also quite strong this season so Borussia Dortmund cannot be careless with the experience they have.
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January 08, 2024, 10:32:01 AM
There has been no official news, but leaks say that Mbappe has already signed a contract with Real Madrid (the transfer will take place in the summer). Now there is no official announcement of this news, since apparently Mbappe wants to calmly finish the season for PSG and calmly leave without scandals and conflicts with the fans. Or maybe this news will be announced after Real and PSG either play each other in the Champions League or avoid this possibility (one of the clubs is eliminated).

Even though this is still a rumor, what you say sounds reasonable. Because if this news leaks to the public, it will certainly cause a tremendous uproar at PSG. Mbappe will be uncomfortable playing and staying at PSG because he will definitely be booed by PSG fans. Especially if they face Real Madrid in the Champions League and PSG lose. So any excuse will not be accepted other than insults to Mbappe because he will be accused of not playing seriously. Honestly, I hope these rumors become facts because I want to see Mbappe's performance in a more competitive league.
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January 08, 2024, 10:06:48 AM
This year uefa champions league round of 16 is not tough, the only tough matches in the round of 16 are Barcelona vs Napoli and Atletico Madrid vs Inter Milan.
I don't think i'd agree with that, i think every match in the CL knockout stages is tough, of course there are going to be teams that are stronger and are favorites to win, but it always doesn't mean it would happen in that way, there would prolly be one or two upsets and even if there is none, the underdog teams can make the game tough and more interesting (even if they end up losing). The competition gets tougher and more interesting as it progresses, but even the RO16 can produce some cracking games.
If you go through the fixtures of the uefa champions league round of 16 you will see that most matches there are not tough, we already know the clubs that will be knocked out in the round of 16. It will be hard for an upset to happen because those big clubs will want to score so many goals against the weak clubs to make the second tie easier.
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January 08, 2024, 10:06:04 AM
Indeed City played a great game but they need De Bruyne back as quick as they can if they want to go back 2 back UCL champions. This season is way hard for them to conquer the trophy and from my point of view , I do think Bayern are the 1st favorites and then City and Real but you are right , De Bruyne presence will be felt as soon as he steps on the pitch and City also needs him for EPL fight.  Cool
Manchester City really need his presence in the squad to help improve their attack. The Cityzen had lost their best momentum since losing De Bruyne, they had slipped several times in the EPL which made them lose the top of the standings. Manchester City still has a big chance to win the UCL trophy in a row, they must be able to return to their best playing form like last season to compete with Bayern Munich and Real Madrid who appear consistently in different competitions. De Bruyne's presence will create a different atmosphere in the squad, he is expected to make a contribution that can improve the quality of Manchester City's game.
Manchester city can at very least still defend its position in the EPL. The chance to compete for title race is still there. Pep needs to strengthen his club and this is the main key to be achieved by manchester city. I would like to see what plan has been prepared by him.
It seems this is going to be another interesting thing for sure. As long as city will able to play with its full squad and i do believe if manchester city will able to play perfectly against any opponents. Many people are still waiting for the superstars to come back.
Im very convincing if manchester city will able to win the trophy again. Im feeling much better once i have seen that if key players of manchester city will be playing. It's caused by that if i just think that if those are still performing so well even though they have suffered injury
I have no complaint about that at all caused by they will always help city to win any trophy till this time. Manchester city is consistently winning the trophy.
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January 08, 2024, 09:31:18 AM
There has been no official news, but leaks say that Mbappe has already signed a contract with Real Madrid (the transfer will take place in the summer). Now there is no official announcement of this news, since apparently Mbappe wants to calmly finish the season for PSG and calmly leave without scandals and conflicts with the fans. Or maybe this news will be announced after Real and PSG either play each other in the Champions League or avoid this possibility (one of the clubs is eliminated).
So far there has been no official report from the club or the player's agent regarding his signing a contract with Real Madrid even though rumors that he will leave for Real Madrid are growing. If it is true that the agreement between PSG and Real Madrid has gone so far then next season will be quite interesting to see the strength that Real Madrid has and this will make Real Madrid's attack power even more dangerous.

If you look at some of the reports, I'm sure Mbappe will play for Real Madrid and maybe as you said, both parties are still waiting for the right time to announce it. Because if it is done now, fans will be quite disappointed, because PSG is still playing in the Champions League.
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January 08, 2024, 09:23:22 AM
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The quality of Manchester City have increased and its time to resume betting on the club because they're now consistent and doesn't fluctuate as before. Manchester City flogged Hundersfield 5-0 in the FA Cup. It was described as such an easy victory for the Citizens at Etihad stadium, everything running in path of their winning was smooth. Pep Guardiola is now relaxed because one of his key player have made return back to the squad after suffering a long term injury. Kelvin De Bruyne have measure crucial assist to Jeremy Doku who netted in style. I would gladly say, Manchester City have bounce back and they're extremely on different stats.
The real key to success that Manchester City has is Haaland and also De Bruyne, if these two players enter the field in every match, there is big possibility that the result will be win and of course last season was an example that both of them are players who always win until 3 championship titles.

The combination of Erling Haaland and Kelvin De Bryune is really what I tag as "cause trouble" because you can really spot the difference when this two players are being featured together in a match and when they ain't featured together but it's just unfortunate that Kelvin De Bryune has been absent due injuries and his return to fitness and to the pitch of play against their match with Huddersfield was really a huge celebration for Manchester city because his impact in the club is superb.

 Erling Haaland who hasn't featured since Manchester city's match against Aston villa due to injury is also speculated by Pep Guardiola to return in their match against Newcastle on Saturday so it will really been an awesome combination to see both Erling Haaland and Kelvin De Bryune play together ones again.
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January 08, 2024, 09:21:37 AM
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yep, we probably dont need to worry too much even though Ancelotti failed to bring in a pure striker like Mbappe but the players that Real Madrid have still look very good with some of the players you mentioned, especially Vinicius and Bellingham who currently seem to be key players for Madrid to continue to get the winning score to win the title in UCL and on the one hand we dont know for sure whether Madrid really failed to bring in a striker player or whether it would be a surprise to be able to bring in a truly quality player.

mbappe or Haaland are both very suitable to be Real Madrid strikers, its just that these two players seem really difficult to get because the team that has these two players also has the goal of trying to try their hand at the UCL this season so it little difficult to recruit these high quality players.
but who knows if it will be surprise because money can change a football player mind and I am more comfortable waiting for whatever player will be brought to Real Madrid, of course the player has very good quality talent but I support you if Haaland will be better suitable compared to Mbappe.
Honestly, I agree. Madrid's squad is formidable even without Mbappe or Haaland, but the conjecture is exciting. Vitius and Bellingham have shown that Madrid doesnt need a star striker to succeed. Ancelotti's skill development and team vision are shining. His approach of establishing a cohesive team rather than adding stars is admirable.

Mbappe's addition excites me. Madrid would soar. He'd add energy to Vinicius, Bellingham, and Rodrygo. Mbappe might make their team invincible. Im eagerly anticipating clarification, but Im confident in Ancelotti's strategy and the present squad's UCL impact.
Currently, Madrid is the favorite in the Champions League even though we know that there are no Halaand and Mbappe names in Ancelotti lineup. Los Blancos bargaining value does not lie in just one or two players, therefore concerns about the existence of an ideal striker on the front line have been resolved very well. It cannot be denied that the two strikers mentioned above are the best at the moment, if Madrid can sign one of them then all teams will be afraid to face them.

Halaand and Mbappe are typical players who remain sharp wherever they go, because the technical quality and individual skills they have are above the average of other players, lucky if they have the opportunity to strengthen Madrid, I say that because I think Madrid is the dream club of all players . Ancelotti has no shortage of options on the front lines, who knows, in the future Ancelotti could experiment with Bellingham position, to place him a little further forward to become number 9.

Perez with his budget resources, can easily attract any player he wants, he is a genius when it comes to player transfers. If Perez has expressed his desire, sooner or later usually this intention will be realized and the player he is targeting will be at the Santiago Bernabeu. It is natural that money will work to fulfill Mr Perez wishes.
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January 08, 2024, 09:10:40 AM
There have been no news in recent times about mbappe or osimhen's negotiations with real Madrid so it's very likely neither of both will be joining the Spanish side by the recent transfer windows because if they were to join they would have most likely have some deal negation already on going but then there have not been any news of any yet
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There has been no official news, but leaks say that Mbappe has already signed a contract with Real Madrid (the transfer will take place in the summer). Now there is no official announcement of this news, since apparently Mbappe wants to calmly finish the season for PSG and calmly leave without scandals and conflicts with the fans. Or maybe this news will be announced after Real and PSG either play each other in the Champions League or avoid this possibility (one of the clubs is eliminated).
There is indeed a rumor saying that an agreement has been reached between Mbappe and Real Madrid, where Mbappe will join Real Madrid when his contract at PSG ends. But still, as long as there is no official statement from either party, I think it will remain speculation. As we know Mbappe once gave Real Madrid false hope, so there is no guarantee that Mbappe will not repeat his actions.

We have always the same story every year, but in the end never ended happening, the problesm Real Madrid is facing in this transfer are two, one the PSG itself, the qataris owners are not gonna let his star go easy, and second Mbape itself, he dont want to give Real Madrid the rights of his image, a common practice in Real Madrid signs.
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January 08, 2024, 09:02:59 AM
There have been no news in recent times about mbappe or osimhen's negotiations with real Madrid so it's very likely neither of both will be joining the Spanish side by the recent transfer windows because if they were to join they would have most likely have some deal negation already on going but then there have not been any news of any yet
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There has been no official news, but leaks say that Mbappe has already signed a contract with Real Madrid (the transfer will take place in the summer). Now there is no official announcement of this news, since apparently Mbappe wants to calmly finish the season for PSG and calmly leave without scandals and conflicts with the fans. Or maybe this news will be announced after Real and PSG either play each other in the Champions League or avoid this possibility (one of the clubs is eliminated).
There is indeed a rumor saying that an agreement has been reached between Mbappe and Real Madrid, where Mbappe will join Real Madrid when his contract at PSG ends. But still, as long as there is no official statement from either party, I think it will remain speculation. As we know Mbappe once gave Real Madrid false hope, so there is no guarantee that Mbappe will not repeat his actions.
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January 08, 2024, 08:49:09 AM
This year uefa champions league round of 16 is not tough, the only tough matches in the round of 16 are Barcelona vs Napoli and Atletico Madrid vs Inter Milan. I see Borussia Dortmund winning against PSV because Dortmund is more experienced than PSV in the uefa champions League, and Borussia Dortmund topped the group where clubs like PSG and AC Milan are.
Yes the round of sixteen this year doesn't really look tough and you surely cannot blame it on the organizers of the UCL because they are not the reason it did played out this way it's exactly the teams who were able to qualify pass the group stage that did got the chance to participate in the round of sixteen.

Borussia Dortmund has really proven to be a tough team at the group stage where they did showed so much resilience enough to get to top their group and qualifying at the first position but then PSV's total performance so far I'm the UCL ha sbeen such that can't be undermined because they were able to finish second against bigger teams they did have in their group, I'm seeing a possible draw but like you said just maybe Dortmund may use their experience to getting the better part of this game.
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