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Quote from: meser# on December 13, 2023, 03:50:43 AM

Unfortunately, it was a half bad and half good night for Galatasaray. A defeat against Copenhag it caused to say goodbye to the Champions League. On the other hand, Bayern's win against Mancester United means they can continue in the European League. Thank you Bayern Grin

The most surprising result for me was Galatasaray's defeat against Copenhagen. It was completely beyond my expectations. But I saw that Copenhagen actually had difficulty winning that match. They had to play hard and caused Lukas Lerager to get an accumulation of yellow cards. This means that their goal scorer in that match cannot play in the first match of the round of 16.
I'm not surprised by United's defeat. And I saw that Bayern played without any pressure that night. It's natural because whatever the result of the match doesn't change anything at all.

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Quote from: JariKriting on December 13, 2023, 03:23:55 AM

manchester united in the domestic league also played very badly. the last match in the league played at home old traford, against bournomeuth also lost 3-0, so if the reason is to concentrate on the domestic league it is less clop.

This season has been one of the worst season for Manchester United because I believe that there other seasons was not this bad because even if they were not that good in performance on there other seasons but they were able to make some efforts but however there performance this season is nothing to write home about, there performance this season has been so inconsistent and you can hardly predict there match because there is every chances they will show you the opposite of your prediction on them.

However the match that got me surprise was there match against Bournemouth seeing how Manchester United was so disorganized on that match and finding it difficult to perform well. Actually I don't really know were Manchester United problem is coming from and if they are not able to fixed it I'm afraid that there performance next season will be exactly the same as this season.

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Galatasaray and Manchester United both played horrible in their games last night. Thanks to Manchester United's failing to win against Bayern Munich at least Galatasaray are going to the Europa League. I didn't expect Manchester United to finish Group A at the last position before the group stage started. I thought they would take one of the second or third position. But here we are.

The criticism will be getting bigger against Erik ten Hag from now on. The fans must be really frustrated at the result they got. I think Erik ten Hag might not last even until the end of the season.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 13, 2023, 03:37:44 AM

What a shameful performance overall from Manchester United who were not able to qualify in a group where it was also Copenhagen and Galatasaray.In such group not being able to go at least in Europa League is more shameful than what I am writing here.I saw the game yesterday night and it was not a good game to watch with a Manchester United out of ideas at all.Bayern didn't need to win the game at all yesterday yet it is in their mentality to win every game.

Let's give credit to Galatasarius and Copenhagen, they too have aged and played their best and at this stage they deserve to get out of the group and qualify for the europa league more than Manchester United.

It is already clear to everyone that Manchester United is in a deep crisis, the team lost 12 out of 24 games played, but apparently the management has no money to buy new players and fire Ten Haga.
So we will wait for new defeats of Manchester and gradual transformation of Manchester United from a top team to an average one, which no one is afraid of.

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Unfortunately, we lost. Copenhagen won with a one goal and continues in the Champions League.
I can't say Galatasaray played well, because they didn't.
We will continue in the UEFA Europa League. I hope we will have good success there.

It is not right to say that the UEFA Europa League may have been better for Galatasaray, but if they had stayed in the last 16 of the Champions League, Galatasaray would not have had a chance, but maybe they could go a little further in the UEFA Europa League. But if they continue to play as they do today, I'm sure they will leave the European league early. The game they played today was the worst game in the group, I think the team lacked the spirit to win.

They played badly, but I can't say they played very badly. We had opportunities but unfortunately we couldn't use them well. Realistically, I thought if we had gone to the next round we would have been eliminated there, maybe this was better for us.
I don't think they will leave the UEFA Europa League early.

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Unfortunately, it was a half bad and half good night for Galatasaray. A defeat against Copenhag it caused to say goodbye to the Champions League. On the other hand, Bayern's win against Mancester United means they can continue in the European League. Thank you Bayern Grin

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on December 13, 2023, 02:09:58 AM

Before the group matches started, many people said that United would be second, but we see that this is the UCL. There is a possibility that even Manchester United could come last here. With the European competition over, the only target for Manchester United should now be the Premier League. They played badly in all 6 matches. They fell well below expectations.

Initially, no one thought that Manchester United would finish in last place and what was even more surprising was that Copenhagen qualified alongside Bayern, this was really beyond many people's predictions.
However, with what has been seen so far, I think it is not surprising that the Manchester United team did not qualify because their performance is very bad, even in the Premier League they are very difficult and I think this is not a good season for Manchester United and I think they will not go to European competitions. again next season.

The result of last night's match that surprised me a little was Sevilla's defeat against Lens, this was really very bad and very surprising for Lens who had just played in European competition but they beat Sevilla and finished in 3rd place even though they didn't qualify for the last 16 but what? what Lens did was the best for his team.

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What a shameful performance overall from Manchester United who were not able to qualify in a group where it was also Copenhagen and Galatasaray.In such group not being able to go at least in Europa League is more shameful than what I am writing here.I saw the game yesterday night and it was not a good game to watch with a Manchester United out of ideas at all.Bayern didn't need to win the game at all yesterday yet it is in their mentality to win every game.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on December 12, 2023, 11:07:23 PM

Man United's defeat in this match was not surprising. With the condition of their squad not yet finding stability in their performance on the field, of course it is natural that they should lose to Bayern, who are still in their best condition. But I quite enjoyed this match because I saw that Man United's performance in this match was not too bad. Bayern also didn't have many opportunities in this match. Although this result disappointed all Man United fans. But losing by a narrow score isn't so bad.

manchester united against bayern munchen lost class, even though playing at home, lost is also not surprising because in the domestic league it has often lost when playing at home, the last match last weekend also lost against a weak team bournomeuth 3-0.

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The positive thing is that Man United will be able to focus more on the domestic league from now on. And they have to fight harder to climb to a better ranking in the domestic league. If Man United can return to their best performance then getting a ticket to the Champions League next season is still possible. But if Ten Heg fails to get Man United back to their best then maybe Man United will fail to get into the top 4 this season. It might even be difficult to get a ticket to the Europa League.

manchester united in the domestic league also played very badly. the last match in the league played at home old traford, against bournomeuth also lost 3-0, so if the reason is to concentrate on the domestic league it is less clop.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on December 13, 2023, 01:59:26 AM

With so many key players sitting on the injuries list for Newcastle United, I guess Newcastle United will find it very tough to avoid a defeat against AC Milan today in this crucial last group match in the Uefa Champions League even though they will have the luxury of playing this match at their home stadium. I think there is a very high chance for Newcastle United journey in the Uefa Champions League this season to come to an end.

But at least, Newcastle only need a draw in this match but yes, of course it still won't be easy because Milan will also certainly try their best to beat Newcastle in this match. But indeed, at least at this moment Newcastle do not have good conditions just about the many of injured Newcastle players, but if we consider other factors such as home matches at least Newcastle still have a chance to be able to hold Milan's draw.

But yes, maybe I also not entirely sure because yes, in Newcastle's last two matches in the Premier League also the fact that Newcastle lost with a big score against Everton and against Tottenham. Therefore, it is true that the factor of this injured player has a bad impact on Newcastle's performance and condition at this moment . But even so, Newcastle is still the favorite team based on the odds, and thus maybe there still be a chance for Newcastle to be able to play well.

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Copenhagen has just made a history today because they were can able to overcomes Galatasaray and finish at second place and automatically qualified to the next round and playing at their home Copenhagen playing slightly under pressure but during the match their defender players were displayed solid defense because although Galatasaray can able to threaten their defense several times but Copenhagen players still discipline and Lerager has became an the hero of Copenhagen because he can scored and help this team to collect 3 points

Galatasaray had quite a lot of chances but Copenhagen's defensive game was not easy to penetrate. especially after Copenhangen was 1 goal ahead, it was like a strong defense that couldn't be penetrated. a difficulty faced by Galatasaray. and they had to be satisfied because they lost the deciding match. at least they still have a chance to play off in the Europa League, they still have a chance to continue competing in the Europa League. and as for United, it was a nightmare for them who had to be eliminated because they lost to Munich. Quite a bad season for United.

Before the group matches started, many people said that United would be second, but we see that this is the UCL. There is a possibility that even Manchester United could come last here. With the European competition over, the only target for Manchester United should now be the Premier League. They played badly in all 6 matches. They fell well below expectations.

But this is more about a general problem that Manchester United has and not so much about the Champions League in specific. Their whole season is consistently bad, which is why I think many expectations were quickly adjusted as to whether Manchester United has a chance to get past the group stage. Now they messed it up completely and can't even play in the Europa League, but I don't know if that is a disadvantage for them or a well needed stop sign.

If the time has not come now, I wonder when it will come that the Manchester United management realizes they are going the wrong direction. There are no signs of life within the team, nothing. Everyone there should be aware that both the Champions League and Europa League qualification would be a miracle this season. They have some sad years ahead of them, taking into account that once this was the biggest club in Europe.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 13, 2023, 12:09:25 AM

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Copenhagen has just made a history today because they were can able to overcomes Galatasaray and finish at second place and automatically qualified to the next round and playing at their home Copenhagen playing slightly under pressure but during the match their defender players were displayed solid defense because although Galatasaray can able to threaten their defense several times but Copenhagen players still discipline and Lerager has became an the hero of Copenhagen because he can scored and help this team to collect 3 points

Galatasaray had quite a lot of chances but Copenhagen's defensive game was not easy to penetrate. especially after Copenhangen was 1 goal ahead, it was like a strong defense that couldn't be penetrated. a difficulty faced by Galatasaray. and they had to be satisfied because they lost the deciding match. at least they still have a chance to play off in the Europa League, they still have a chance to continue competing in the Europa League. and as for United, it was a nightmare for them who had to be eliminated because they lost to Munich. Quite a bad season for United.

Before the group matches started, many people said that United would be second, but we see that this is the UCL. There is a possibility that even Manchester United could come last here. With the European competition over, the only target for Manchester United should now be the Premier League. They played badly in all 6 matches. They fell well below expectations.

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Where's Manchester United? one of strongest club in this world must be able to qualify for quarter final either in Champions League or Europa League right? Can anyone mention which Premier League club that stay at the bottom during the group stage in Champions League except Manchester United? Cheesy

However we have another exciting upcoming matches which are Newcastle vs Milan and Dortmund vs PSG, If both Newcastle and Dortmund win, this will be an interesting story again since PSG will not qualify to the next round.

Manchester united has reduced to the last position in the group A, which is a sign that Manchester united will not go far in this champions league tournament because their performance in this season will not bring them good result. They started the match well in the first half, hopping that they will use home advantage to prove to people that they will use their opportunity well by defeating Bayern Munich 2-0, but the match change to another level in the second half that made Bayern Munich to scored a single goal in the 70th minutes to defeated Manchester united 0-1. I think AC Milan will defeat Newcastle united today because they are doing well in the Italian league competition which they can still prove it in this match to defeat Newcastle united 2-1.

It was a must-win game for Man United. Winning the match wouldn't have mattered, but they went down fighting. Bayern hardly got out of second gear in a game that Man United had to win, managing only 1 shot on target. The 1-0 defeat to Bayern Munich under Erik ten Hag means they finish at the bottom of Group A and miss out on all European competitions. It was a disastrous campaign, and expecting a miracle in the last fixture after the previous blunders was too much. For Man United gaining points against Galatasaray and Copenhagen would have been enough, but unfortunately, they didn't.

I was not shocked at the result of Manchester United's scorelines yesternite after 90'. It was expected, I mean where they hoping to qualify somehow? When they would have gotten the right points, they lost wholely.
For Arsenal, their 1 all draw would have no effect on their qualification as they progressed already to the RO16 without even needing to win at all in yesternites match.

Today's matches am looking forward to is that of Manchester city and that of PSG. It's gonna be interesting and I won't place any bets though until the RO16 fixtures comes out.

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Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 12, 2023, 04:54:49 PM

With the current scoreline between Manchester United vs Bayern Munich and Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, Manchester United has been officially knocked out of the Uefa Champions League this season. Copenhagen will be the club to reach the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League with Bayern Munich.

Even before the game, I don't think Manchester United will win because I know they'll play the kind of game they usually play. It's even a good thing that Manchester United is eliminated from the Champions League; at least the team's supporters can rest easy. Many fans believe Manchester United can beat Bayern Munich because they lost to them in the Bundesliga with a smaller squad. However, Bayern Munich is still one of the best teams we've ever seen, and I think they can compete well in every league this season.

Manchester United is not going anywhere this season, and I don't even think they will be able to maintain their current position in the Premier League. Many supporters of the team are claiming that they can qualify for the Champions League next season, but I don't think Manchester United will qualify for the Europa League due to their performance. I don't wish the team any harm, but the way they are playing will infuriate everyone. Even with their talented players, the team is unable to defeat small teams in the Champions League, making it impossible for them to advance past the round of 16.

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With so many key players sitting on the injuries list for Newcastle United, I guess Newcastle United will find it very tough to avoid a defeat against AC Milan today in this crucial last group match in the Uefa Champions League even though they will have the luxury of playing this match at their home stadium. I think there is a very high chance for Newcastle United journey in the Uefa Champions League this season to come to an end.

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Where's Manchester United? one of strongest club in this world must be able to qualify for quarter final either in Champions League or Europa League right? Can anyone mention which Premier League club that stay at the bottom during the group stage in Champions League except Manchester United? Cheesy

However we have another exciting upcoming matches which are Newcastle vs Milan and Dortmund vs PSG, If both Newcastle and Dortmund win, this will be an interesting story again since PSG will not qualify to the next round.

Manchester united has reduced to the last position in the group A, which is a sign that Manchester united will not go far in this champions league tournament because their performance in this season will not bring them good result. They started the match well in the first half, hopping that they will use home advantage to prove to people that they will use their opportunity well by defeating Bayern Munich 2-0, but the match change to another level in the second half that made Bayern Munich to scored a single goal in the 70th minutes to defeated Manchester united 0-1. I think AC Milan will defeat Newcastle united today because they are doing well in the Italian league competition which they can still prove it in this match to defeat Newcastle united 2-1.

It was a must-win game for Man United. Winning the match wouldn't have mattered, but they went down fighting. Bayern hardly got out of second gear in a game that Man United had to win, managing only 1 shot on target. The 1-0 defeat to Bayern Munich under Erik ten Hag means they finish at the bottom of Group A and miss out on all European competitions. It was a disastrous campaign, and expecting a miracle in the last fixture after the previous blunders was too much. For Man United gaining points against Galatasaray and Copenhagen would have been enough, but unfortunately, they didn't.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on December 12, 2023, 11:07:23 PM

Man United's defeat in this match was not surprising. With the condition of their squad not yet finding stability in their performance on the field, of course it is natural that they should lose to Bayern, who are still in their best condition. But I quite enjoyed this match because I saw that Man United's performance in this match was not too bad. Bayern also didn't have many opportunities in this match. Although this result disappointed all Man United fans. But losing by a narrow score isn't so bad.

Right from the beginning of the match, I don't even expect much from Manchester United based on their poor performance currently, so I believe they will hardly defeat Bayern Munich despite Bayern Munich had qualified for next in the Champions League competition and they may not have put much effort into the game. I think that is what happened. Assuming that Bayern Munich played with much effort, the goals should be more than a goal. To know how poorly Manchester United played yesterday, they just got one short on the goal target. I don't really see any improvement in that team anymore because in that type of game yesterday, I wanted Manchester United to be desperate to win the game just to get a chance to play in the Europa competition, but I don't see any signs of improvement from them.

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The positive thing is that Man United will be able to focus more on the domestic league from now on. And they have to fight harder to climb to a better ranking in the domestic league. If Man United can return to their best performance then getting a ticket to the Champions League next season is still possible. But if Ten Heg fails to get Man United back to their best then maybe Man United will fail to get into the top 4 this season. It might even be difficult to get a ticket to the Europa League.

It is very possible they should start improving their performance and start doing better in the domestic league because there is less competition for them, and I think that will help them focus on their domestic league. Manchester United's performances are not that bad in their domestic league, and with little effort, they can have better positions in the Premier League table at the end of the season.

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GROUP E
Atlético de Madrid vs Lazio (21:00)
Celtic vs Feyenoord (21:00)

In this group Atlético de Madrid and Lazio have already qualified but the mean thing is to fight for the top while Feyenoord don't need any advantage to qualify for Europa they are already there and Celtic is finally out.

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GROUP F
Dortmund vs Paris (21:00)
Newcastle vs Milan (21:00)

Here Dortmund has qualify, as for Paris, Newcastle and Milan the outcome of their match will determine who is go to qualify for round 16 and also Europa and who will be eliminated too.

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GROUP G
Leipzig vs Young Boys (18:45)
Crvena zvezda vs Man City (18:45)

Manchester City and Leipzig have qualify to round 16 while Young Boys straight to Europa and Crvena zvezda has been eliminated

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GROUP H
Porto vs Shakhtar Donetsk (21:00)
Antwerp vs Barcelona (21:00)

I this group Barcelona has qualified, the faith of Shakhtar Donetsk and Porto lies on the outcome of their match against each other while Antwerp are going home straight.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 13, 2023, 12:12:55 AM

Where's Manchester United? one of strongest club in this world must be able to qualify for quarter final either in Champions League or Europa League right? Can anyone mention which Premier League club that stay at the bottom during the group stage in Champions League except Manchester United? Cheesy

I can remember that correctly if manchester united fans were beliving this club get tsunamy trophy this season, but it's always disaster to watch this club. It's not even going to the europa league. I can mention a potential club that will be at the bottomg during the group stage. What about newcastle? The fate of newcastle has not yet determined caused by the match will begin soon. The gameplay of manchester united against bayern is a disaster, it's terrible to watch too.

Watching cartoon is much more entertain than watch manchester united in the game against bayern. bayern is in another level compared to the manchester united right now. It's just downhill from here for manchester united. It's embarassing.
This team is so terrible. MU is not deserve our attention anymore since this club out from UCL.

We are too valued to watch united. Cheesy

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However we have another exciting upcoming matches which are Newcastle vs Milan and Dortmund vs PSG, If both Newcastle and Dortmund win, this will be an interesting story again since PSG will not qualify to the next round.

It's hard to tell that if PSG will not win against dortmund. Im feeling if PSG will manage it to pass the group stage to qualify for the upcoming match.

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Honestly, before the PSV vas Arsenal game last night, I was expecting to see some academy players to feature but when I saw their record 15wins in 15games, unbeaten at home I thought we might not see them, because Arteta will not feature them, so I probably made my peace with that then. It's not too much.
I think the best time to field a youngin was in the second half of their game against RC Lens after going 5-0 ahead before 60 minutes. The next best time was yesterday.

Yes they lost a game and needed something to get back on track, but it wasn't even as if they lost form. They just had a bad day. They’re already top and qualifed regardless.

I understand starting Gabriel and Saliba due to them being short. I understand Cedric, Nelson and Nketiah. I understand the need for some senior players to get minutes.

What I don't understand however is that Arteta is somehow telling me no academy player is ok to play 10 minutes in the most low-pressure game we've had all season to get something.

Jesus coming on in the 88th minute, Rice coming on to defend a 1-1 draw?
I understand now that Arteta may not be the biggest proponent of youth and academy, fair on him. Everybody have their own way, I hope he is able to back it up with trophies at the end of the day.

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