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December 06, 2023, 09:20:55 PM
To be fair it could very well be because of the team as well, Lewandowski is not playing just 1v1 football on some street, its 11v11 and maybe the team is not giving him the balls that he needs. When you do not pass to a player like him properly, then you end up with a bad result from him, he can't give you the goals you need if you just make him find the score himself, you need to pass him at the right time which is a team thing. I believe that he has done wonderful last year because they really relied on him last year, but this season they are playing other players that can score too, which results with those players trying to shoot more often, and gives him less passes he can finish.
A striker must be able to put himself in the right position so that he can get the ball from another player to score a goal and this type of striker usually really depends on the performance of the midfielders and the support of the wingers. Barcelona have good resources in midfield and the wings should not make it difficult for Lewandowski to score goals. There are times when players miss the best moment to score a goal and that is why football is about collectivity not about one person, so that when the striker is unable to score a goal there are other players who can take that role.

Barcelona has always failed to qualify for the group phase in the last two seasons, or more precisely when Lionel Messi left Camp Nou, so Xavi was asked to focus more on overcoming this problem so as not to fail again. This season, Barcelona has confirmed that they will qualify for the next round even though there is still one match left in the group phase and this is what the management and fans hope for.
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December 06, 2023, 07:35:36 PM
To be fair it could very well be because of the team as well, Lewandowski is not playing just 1v1 football on some street, its 11v11 and maybe the team is not giving him the balls that he needs. When you do not pass to a player like him properly, then you end up with a bad result from him, he can't give you the goals you need if you just make him find the score himself, you need to pass him at the right time which is a team thing. I believe that he has done wonderful last year because they really relied on him last year, but this season they are playing other players that can score too, which results with those players trying to shoot more often, and gives him less passes he can finish.
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December 06, 2023, 07:10:47 PM
Yes just look at Barcelona and how they have been doing the last few years. Regardless of winning the title last season, in my opinion they were not part of the highest elite group anymore as they weren't playing this level that is unreachable for most others. They have had a good season and Real Madrid wasn't playing well in La Liga, which is why Barcelona could win the title. Now they are struggling in La Liga again and got lucky with their Champions League group, but I don't think they will be around in the semifinals of the Champions League.
If you look at Barcelona's current performance and even overall in the last few years, it is natural that the Barcelona team is no longer favored to compete for the UCL title, and I agree with you if you say that Barcelona is currently not one of the elite teams in Europe. they are really in a very bad state and there has been no progress in the last few years.
So this season it is quite logical if we predict that Barcelona will not go further and what happened in the group phase cannot be a reference because their opponents in the group phase were weak teams and Barcelona was a little lucky to join group H.

Of a truth Barcelona is not really in their best this season even for the fact that they have tactical and talented players but yet they struggle to win matches even win with low goal difference unlike Barcelona before that wins with high goal difference in their matches but despite the fact that they haven't really shown their best this season i still applaud their performance so far like for them to be in the third position in the league table means they are still in good form as they are just 5 points behind the league leaders Real Madrid.

Barcelona in the last season was much better and they had a better performance but because of the financial issues they have in this team, we can't expect to see more from Xavi, I was hoping to see a good performance from Barcelona during this Chmpaunos League but to be honest this team is not in the same situation with other teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munch, especially in this tournament and there is not much hope for them.
So true, it can be seen from how lewandowski was consistently producing the goals regularly unlike this season. Lewandowski is having terrible performance that is giving non significant impact to the club. It's very very bad to see how it was performing so badly.
Barcelona can lose la liga if it keeps perform so poorly like that. Real madrid becomes even stronger than before and i do like that. I hope real amdrid will be dominating everything right now. The club needs to sign the good players but glad to see that it has financial trouble.
The chance for xavi to build his team is being limited as it was not having lots of budget to do that. Real madrid is very strong right now. It has very good chemistry. Bellingham., vini and mbappe soon will be going so crazy.
That's amazing to see how real madrid is working as a team. Barcelona will lose la liga and UCL this season. I have no faith in this team. Madrid will be dominating everything.
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December 06, 2023, 06:33:52 PM
Yes just look at Barcelona and how they have been doing the last few years. Regardless of winning the title last season, in my opinion they were not part of the highest elite group anymore as they weren't playing this level that is unreachable for most others. They have had a good season and Real Madrid wasn't playing well in La Liga, which is why Barcelona could win the title. Now they are struggling in La Liga again and got lucky with their Champions League group, but I don't think they will be around in the semifinals of the Champions League.
If you look at Barcelona's current performance and even overall in the last few years, it is natural that the Barcelona team is no longer favored to compete for the UCL title, and I agree with you if you say that Barcelona is currently not one of the elite teams in Europe. they are really in a very bad state and there has been no progress in the last few years.
So this season it is quite logical if we predict that Barcelona will not go further and what happened in the group phase cannot be a reference because their opponents in the group phase were weak teams and Barcelona was a little lucky to join group H.

Of a truth Barcelona is not really in their best this season even for the fact that they have tactical and talented players but yet they struggle to win matches even win with low goal difference unlike Barcelona before that wins with high goal difference in their matches but despite the fact that they haven't really shown their best this season i still applaud their performance so far like for them to be in the third position in the league table means they are still in good form as they are just 5 points behind the league leaders Real Madrid.

Barcelona in the last season was much better and they had a better performance but because of the financial issues they have in this team, we can't expect to see more from Xavi, I was hoping to see a good performance from Barcelona during this Chmpaunos League but to be honest this team is not in the same situation with other teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munch, especially in this tournament and there is not much hope for them.
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December 06, 2023, 06:15:32 PM
I still think Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying though they are playing against Bayern but because of how they played in their first leg though they lost but it was a difference of 1 goal and which nobody expected, we all thought bayern would have won that game with more goals and concede less. While man United has been inconsistent I think they still got a chance of being the better team here if they really want to

Even if you consider this chance for Manchester United to win the game against Bayern Munich and get qualified in this group to pass the stage, but Manchester United is not a team in the good situation to have any chance in this tournament during this season and I think it's better for Ten Hag to focus on the Premer League instead of that.

You have raised a very good point here and I also agree that Manchester United doesn’t have a strong team that can compete for the champions league title going further to the elimination stage. If they get to qualify at this state they are now, the attention of the team will be shifted to the UCL on how to make themself farewell there and will forget about the premier league matches. If they diversify their attention, they might end up losing the two in the end. I feel they should focus more on maintaining a good lead in the premier league, fighting to maintain a spot within the top four position will be the best for them.
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December 06, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
Even if you consider this chance for Manchester United to win the game against Bayern Munich and get qualified in this group to pass the stage, but Manchester United is not a team in the good situation to have any chance in this tournament during this season and I think it's better for Ten Hag to focus on the Premer League instead of that.

The focus of the Red Devils is to earn another solid spot in UEFA Champions League next season and qualifying for next round in UCL this season, that alone will boosts their performance against mediocre teams and also elite clubs. Manchester united have misused their chances of qualifying for the next phase of the UEFA Champions League and now they have a die-hard job to win  Bayern Munich in the last leg of group stage match. Erik Ten Hag will only attempt to beat Thomas Tuchel but he will not lack the necessary strategies to implement against such an elite Bundesliga giant.
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December 06, 2023, 05:48:47 PM
I still think Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying though they are playing against Bayern but because of how they played in their first leg though they lost but it was a difference of 1 goal and which nobody expected, we all thought bayern would have won that game with more goals and concede less. While man United has been inconsistent I think they still got a chance of being the better team here if they really want to
It is true that they are still have the chance to qualify for the next round. However, the chance seems quite small, they need to beat Bayern Munich and the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray must end with a draw. Man United surely has the advantage for the final match because they will play at home. They must struggle all out to ensure they will get full points, meanwhile the match won't impact anything for Bayern Munich. In this matter, we can assume Bayern Munich won't play with their main squad. On the other hand, for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is actually difficult to predict. Both must try their best to get points, so there is a chance for a draw. This what Man United expects for the upcoming match.

It will be very difficult for Manchester United to qualify for the round of 16 in the Champions League because even if they defeat Bayern Munich, I don't think Galatasaray and Copenhagen will draw because one club must win the match and I believe Galatasaray have a chance to defeat them, is only Europa League that I can say Manchester United can go this season if they get lucky and defeat Bayern Munich but it will be very difficult for them because Bayern Munich are in good form in the competition, is just for Manchester United to try and win the match because even they don't get the opportunity to qualify to the next round, they can move to the Europa League and win the trophy and get the opportunity to qualify to the Champions Leagues automatically next season if they can win the trophy,  because even if Manchester gets lucky and qualifies to the next round, they can't win the Champions Leagues trophys because they are not in good enough shape to compete with other top clubs in the competition.
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December 06, 2023, 05:30:52 PM
There is still hope for everyone to qualify for this group, only Bayern Munich is certain to progress to the next round. However, I see that only Man United has a harder time qualifying in this group because their opponent is Bayern Munich and for me Bayern Munich is not an easy opponent even though in the 5th match yesterday they drew against Copenhagen. In fact, this draw will be a special motivation for Bayern Munich to chase three points in the closing match of Group A with 16 points.

Onana is actually good if his defender is also good, I don't blame Onana alone for Man United's conceding. But this is ETH's job to prepare defenders to remain solid and strong in Man United's defense. My prediction in group A that will accompany Bayern Munich to the last 16 is Galatasaray.
I still think Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying though they are playing against Bayern but because of how they played in their first leg though they lost but it was a difference of 1 goal and which nobody expected, we all thought bayern would have won that game with more goals and concede less. While man United has been inconsistent I think they still got a chance of being the better team here if they really want to

Even if you consider this chance for Manchester United to win the game against Bayern Munich and get qualified in this group to pass the stage, but Manchester United is not a team in the good situation to have any chance in this tournament during this season and I think it's better for Ten Hag to focus on the Premer League instead of that.
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December 06, 2023, 05:26:27 PM
Manchester united is performing well tonight in their premier league game , they had a lead in the early hours of the first half and it seem their left flnks is more active, against Chelsea they seem to have a very brilliant performance but amongst the teams in their group in the UCL, I don't know if there's any I could probably liken to Chelsea in strength.

If Manchester united could put up same spirit and performance as they are doing tonight against Bayern Munich in their next UCL fixture, I think they will do more better than expected of them, but then Chelsea doesn't look like a better comparison for Bayern Munich so judging their strength against Chelsea to match against that which could be put up against Bayern Munich to get a victory may not be a perfect comparison but hen if they can play this well they will get a draw in a worse case and even if it turns out they don't qualify but they they must have played well regardless.
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December 06, 2023, 04:56:16 PM
I still think Manchester United still has a chance of qualifying though they are playing against Bayern but because of how they played in their first leg though they lost but it was a difference of 1 goal and which nobody expected, we all thought bayern would have won that game with more goals and concede less. While man United has been inconsistent I think they still got a chance of being the better team here if they really want to
It is true that they are still have the chance to qualify for the next round. However, the chance seems quite small, they need to beat Bayern Munich and the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray must end with a draw. Man United surely has the advantage for the final match because they will play at home. They must struggle all out to ensure they will get full points, meanwhile the match won't impact anything for Bayern Munich. In this matter, we can assume Bayern Munich won't play with their main squad. On the other hand, for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is actually difficult to predict. Both must try their best to get points, so there is a chance for a draw. This what Man United expects for the upcoming match.

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December 06, 2023, 04:49:04 PM
Bayern already has enough points to guarantee first place in the group, they don't have any other team in that group that threatens their position, and Bayern has more serious concerns in the Bundesliga in which a defeat in the Bundesliga game could make the title was escaping them and we all know how Bayern's management gives priority to winning the Bundesliga, so I see the Bayern coach putting less important players in that game, he will let all the best players rest, this will be good for the team because it will avoid Injuries are everything that Bayern doesn't need to have, they are injured players

Bayern Munich do not take anything for granted. They try to win every match they play.
If you know Bayern Munich you'll know they play their best against big opponents. It's a bragging rights for Bayern Munich. They're a very proud people as they won't want to stain their record and allow Manchester United beat them.
United needs the win more but that doesn't mean they'll be more motivated. You have to be very well to win Bayern Munich . The fact that Bayern Munich have already qualified and topped the ground and that Bayern has stronger games in the league are not advantage to Manchester United, knowing the kind of team that Bayern is. What I can say is an advantage to Manchester United is that they'll be playing that game at Old Trafford, but then again, with the way United have been this season, I don't even know if that is an advantage.

whereas in the case of manchester united, they will make an effort to win the game because they could still go to the european league if the galatasaray game has a winner

Manchester United fielded their best teams against Copenhagen and Galatasaray and what was the result? If not for Onana that saved a dying minute penalty in the first leg against Copenhagen, Man United would have not been able to get full point in any of the matches against Copenhagen.
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December 06, 2023, 04:48:14 PM
Manchester United missed out their opportunity to qualify the day they lost to Galatasary,a match that they already lead.That game shows that Ten Hag doesn't really know how to handle the players at United,it seems the job is too big for him.Another problem United have is that there are too much big players who have ego,and aren't ready to take the coach's instructions,or is ready to be subject to the command of the coach.
Bayern Munich will still win them in this game because if they could not defeat Galatasary,then I conclude that Bayern are too good for them to win.And if I should make a possible prediction of the outcome of the match,I will predict a 4:2 victory to Bayern.
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Op you are right about Eric Ten Hag, he looks lost and confused. He looks like a man who has run out of idea. Most Manchester United players has lost Faith in their manager because use of the way he is handling the Sancho case. Those players are not happy and they are just playing the way they like, that's why it appears that they are not committed in playing for the club.
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December 06, 2023, 04:28:19 PM
They have some good player Material at Manchester United and now I think they need a coach who understands how to turn the team into a union. It is not about hard training, it is about making them feel confident again and bring them into a state of mind that they can also make use of their potential. It would be great to see a serious big name as a coach on their bench very soon. Manchester United used to be one of the best addresses in European football and now they are getting closer and closer to oblivion.
Although Man Utd's ranking in the Premier League can still be said to be quite good. But at UCL we can see Man Utd in a quite sad and critical condition. Well, I think this club needs a coach who can make the players in the squad become even better at building teamwork. They must trust each other and build good relationships between fellow players. Ten Heg seems to be applying a slightly different method there. He makes fellow players compete within the club. This could cause players to knock each other out. So we can see that this squad does not seem harmonious when playing.

Even in the match against Bayern, I doubt that Man Utd will get good results. Unless Bayern softens a little. Karen Bayern may no longer consider this match important. Because Bayern already holds the key to entering the round of 16.

The situation for Manchester United in the Premier League is more than critical!! Their problem is that none of the teams ahead of them is ahead of them because of luck, but because they are stronger than Manchester United. This would have consequences for this season and for next season if they miss the qualification for the Champions League and to me it already looks like that. I know it is still early days, but I doubt that anyone believes there will be a significant change in their whole game from one week to another. They need to convert into a new team so to say... With this team and coach this is going nowhere for them.
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December 06, 2023, 04:23:27 PM
I still give United a 20% of chances, for me is most difficult to see them winning the game against Bayern Munich than wait for the draw between Copenague and Galatasaray. Because the other two little teams are gonna be so idiot that they destroy themselves with a draw who doesnt help any of them
The other two teams will be very serious and play to win, but the result is more likely to end in a draw because of how intense their match is going to be. A draw won’t help any of them to have a better chance to qualify for the champions league round of 16 but will only help one and the other to qualify for the Europa League. Manchester United can only be helped with the draw more if they can win their match against Bayern Munich which in all cases seems very impossible to happen.

Exactly. Both teams are looking for a win to qualify for the Champions League round of 16, so with the too-consistent efforts that both of them put in Their front is what will make their match tough; everybody will be looking for a win. Probably, with this, one of them must win or end in a draw, which will be a victory for Manchester United. However, Manchester United are not in a position to beat Bayern Munich right now. Bayern Munich's performance is clearly better than that of Manchester United. So I don’t think we need to talk about that fact, which is already clear in my opinion, although the previous match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich had a 1-goal interval and most people were expecting Bayern Munich to win. Let's see how Manchester United will perform that day.

This is what makes this game between Copenhagen and Galatasaray so thrilling. If they are sitting on a draw there is no way to ignore the game between Manchester United and Bayern Munich. I think there will be a lot of information going back and forth between the stadiums and also the coaches and the players. But who knows maybe one comes out as the clear winner tomorrow and takes a comfortable lead at some time during the game. On the one hand I expect a game that is all about stable defenses, but on the other hand I think as soon as we get to see one goal the other team will open up and go for it.

Both games are very important, they will be make-or-break games for both teams in the Europa League.
It doesn't mean anything for B.Munich but I think they will play with a full squad.
M.United definitely need to win if they want to continue.
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December 06, 2023, 04:23:18 PM
The match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich on Tuesday which also is the last match of the group stage of champions league is one match I look forward to. Manchester United has a very slim chance to qualify for the next round of the champions league which is the quarter finals. For Manchester United to qualify,  they have to win Bayern Munich which is quite a different task to achieve because Bayern Munich is very much in form and Bayern Munich is topping the league.

Whether Manchester win Bayern Munich or not  Bayern Munich will still qualify as number one but if they are unable to win Bayern Munich,  they (Manchester United) will not be able to qualify. But even if Manchester United win Bayern Munich then  Galatasaray and Copenhagen draw the match, Manchester United will still not qualify. Manchester United need to win so they can play in Europa League even if they cannot qualify for the champions league.
Manchester United missed out their opportunity to qualify the day they lost to Galatasary,a match that they already lead.That game shows that Ten Hag doesn't really know how to handle the players at United,it seems the job is too big for him.Another problem United have is that there are too much big players who have ego,and aren't ready to take the coach's instructions,or is ready to be subject to the command of the coach.
Bayern Munich will still win them in this game because if they could not defeat Galatasary,then I conclude that Bayern are too good for them to win.And if I should make a possible prediction of the outcome of the match,I will predict a 4:2 victory to Bayern.
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December 06, 2023, 04:21:28 PM
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There is still hope for everyone to qualify for this group, only Bayern Munich is certain to progress to the next round. However, I see that only Man United has a harder time qualifying in this group because their opponent is Bayern Munich and for me Bayern Munich is not an easy opponent even though in the 5th match yesterday they drew against Copenhagen. In fact, this draw will be a special motivation for Bayern Munich to chase three points in the closing match of Group A with 16 points.

Onana is actually good if his defender is also good, I don't blame Onana alone for Man United's conceding. But this is ETH's job to prepare defenders to remain solid and strong in Man United's defense. My prediction in group A that will accompany Bayern Munich to the last 16 is Galatasaray.
Let's say Manchester United can win the match against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford, but whether or not they qualify for the round of 16 also really depends on the other teams. Galatasaray will not easily let Copenhagen beat them or hold them to a draw, which is hard to think considering their form. I can expect Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich if their performance is the same as the match against Chelsea today, but this team is not very stable.

Honestly, I don't care what scenario could take Manchester United through to the round of 16, the point is I expect them to be there this season. Ten Hag had to fight to win a place in the round of 16 by using all his technical skills and intelligence in formulating strategies, but still, Bayern Munich is a team that is difficult to beat.
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December 06, 2023, 04:14:43 PM
Bayern already has enough points to guarantee first place in the group, they don't have any other team in that group that threatens their position, and Bayern has more serious concerns in the Bundesliga in which a defeat in the Bundesliga game could make the title was escaping them and we all know how Bayern's management gives priority to winning the Bundesliga, so I see the Bayern coach putting less important players in that game, he will let all the best players rest, this will be good for the team because it will avoid Injuries are everything that Bayern doesn't need to have, they are injured players

This is just your thought and what if the Bayern Munich team wants to top their group with a maximum of points and don't want to entertain any defeat in this Championship league and maybe even targeting to go unbeatable in the Champions League this season, so it's not just as we see or say it, this is Champions League and they owe Manchester United no pity to allow them to defeat them even though Bayern decides to rest some of their players. Bayern will even be interested to getting rid of Manchester United in this group stage, as Man Utd May even be a threat in their Champions League title race if they allow them escape these group stage matches and qualify.



Yes, giving an easy victory to Manchester United is something that is not good for the big name of the Bayern Munich team because ya, ofcourse they have the prestige that will still play well at least not to lose . It does not matter, whether Bayern Munich will only play second tier players or not, because of course Bayern Munich target is still to get good result in this match . So ya, even though Bayern Munich has got a ticket to the last 16 but ya, that will also not be a factor for Bayern Munich to be weak. Because basically Bayern Munich is a big team, which ofcourse has good management as well so that it will still maintain their performance to remain good as well.

What's the chance they'll even play without half the main roster? They seem to have all the players feeling fine and there is no point in resting them. So it seems to me that there will be no second-team game and it will be an easy win for Bayern and MU out of the tournament, although the chances of a draw have not been cancelled, then maybe they will qualify for the Europa League
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December 06, 2023, 03:51:46 PM
The match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich on Tuesday which also is the last match of the group stage of champions league is one match I look forward to. Manchester United has a very slim chance to qualify for the next round of the champions league which is the quarter finals. For Manchester United to qualify,  they have to win Bayern Munich which is quite a different task to achieve because Bayern Munich is very much in form and Bayern Munich is topping the league.

Whether Manchester win Bayern Munich or not  Bayern Munich will still qualify as number one but if they are unable to win Bayern Munich,  they (Manchester United) will not be able to qualify. But even if Manchester United win Bayern Munich then  Galatasaray and Copenhagen draw the match, Manchester United will still not qualify. Manchester United need to win so they can play in Europa League even if they cannot qualify for the champions league.
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December 06, 2023, 03:32:41 PM
I still give United a 20% of chances, for me is most difficult to see them winning the game against Bayern Munich than wait for the draw between Copenague and Galatasaray. Because the other two little teams are gonna be so idiot that they destroy themselves with a draw who doesnt help any of them
The other two teams will be very serious and play to win, but the result is more likely to end in a draw because of how intense their match is going to be. A draw won’t help any of them to have a better chance to qualify for the champions league round of 16 but will only help one and the other to qualify for the Europa League. Manchester United can only be helped with the draw more if they can win their match against Bayern Munich which in all cases seems very impossible to happen.

Exactly. Both teams are looking for a win to qualify for the Champions League round of 16, so with the too-consistent efforts that both of them put in Their front is what will make their match tough; everybody will be looking for a win. Probably, with this, one of them must win or end in a draw, which will be a victory for Manchester United. However, Manchester United are not in a position to beat Bayern Munich right now. Bayern Munich's performance is clearly better than that of Manchester United. So I don’t think we need to talk about that fact, which is already clear in my opinion, although the previous match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich had a 1-goal interval and most people were expecting Bayern Munich to win. Let's see how Manchester United will perform that day.

This is what makes this game between Copenhagen and Galatasaray so thrilling. If they are sitting on a draw there is no way to ignore the game between Manchester United and Bayern Munich. I think there will be a lot of information going back and forth between the stadiums and also the coaches and the players. But who knows maybe one comes out as the clear winner tomorrow and takes a comfortable lead at some time during the game. On the one hand I expect a game that is all about stable defenses, but on the other hand I think as soon as we get to see one goal the other team will open up and go for it.
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December 06, 2023, 03:25:19 PM
I still give United a 20% of chances, for me is most difficult to see them winning the game against Bayern Munich than wait for the draw between Copenague and Galatasaray. Because the other two little teams are gonna be so idiot that they destroy themselves with a draw who doesnt help any of them
The other two teams will be very serious and play to win, but the result is more likely to end in a draw because of how intense their match is going to be. A draw won’t help any of them to have a better chance to qualify for the champions league round of 16 but will only help one and the other to qualify for the Europa League. Manchester United can only be helped with the draw more if they can win their match against Bayern Munich which in all cases seems very impossible to happen.

Exactly. Both teams are looking for a win to qualify for the Champions League round of 16, so with the too-consistent efforts that both of them put in Their front is what will make their match tough; everybody will be looking for a win. Probably, with this, one of them must win or end in a draw, which will be a victory for Manchester United. However, Manchester United are not in a position to beat Bayern Munich right now. Bayern Munich's performance is clearly better than that of Manchester United. So I don’t think we need to talk about that fact, which is already clear in my opinion, although the previous match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich had a 1-goal interval and most people were expecting Bayern Munich to win. Let's see how Manchester United will perform that day.
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