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On the contrary I don't think the match will be that serious because in as much as Bayern Munich want to put more effort on that match but the competition ahead of them will make them to reserve there players for more tougher match to come because even if they lose the match against Manchester United they still have nothing to lose, and even if they decided to use all there key players and eventually wins Manchester United the points will make no meaning for them.

The way I'm seeing the match if Manchester United put more effort like the performance they put during their match against Chelsea it will surely be a win game for them.

This could be the primary factor why Manchester United still has a tiny chance to progress to the next round although they don't deserve it to be honest. The win against Chelsea now gave them some room to calm down and start focusing on their next games, but it would be insane if they do beat Bayern Munich and Copenhagen and Galatasaray finish their game with a draw and the chaotic club Manchester United ends up playing in the round of 16 in the Champions League. I think it would be ridiculous if we look at all the performances the team has shown this season.
Yeah I agree with you that Manchester United doesn't deserve the wining because they actually don't have what it takes to be there perhaps even if the eventually wins Bayern Munich there chances of wining any team on the next round is very small because the next round is really going to be tougher compare to the teams they have meet earlier, so that's why I said the possibility of Manchester United to be able to perform on the next round may not be certain because is going to be very competitive.

Well Copenhagen and Galatasaray match will determine the faith of Manchester United.
Man United victory in the EPL against Chelsea cannot be used as a complete reference, because the levels of Chelsea and Bayern Munchen this season are very different. I personally see that United will lose hope on matchday 6, because on paper it is very difficult to predict that they will secure 3 points over Bayern later, even though Ten Hag and his squad act as hosts.

We certainly know very well how United will qualify for the round of 16, by relying on a draw from the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, and of course with the main requirement of beating Bayern. so it makes sense to say their chances are nil now, it would take a big miracle to see them play in the next round.

Actually, United is a good team and has a quality squad, but recently their performance has been very far from everyone expectations. they are currently receiving a lot of sharp criticism, especially Ten Hag and Onana.
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December 07, 2023, 01:21:09 PM
Bayern Munich is not the type of team that will play this match as one of the normal ones they do play since they’ve already qualified. They will want to play this match with full strength in order to have a good record on Manchester United in the future. Poor Manchester United, and their form doesn’t speak well of them to be able to hold this team to even a draw. We will have between Copenhagen and Galatasaray to join Bayern Munich from this group for the round of sixteen of the champions league.
On the contrary I don't think the match will be that serious because in as much as Bayern Munich want to put more effort on that match but the competition ahead of them will make them to reserve there players for more tougher match to come because even if they lose the match against Manchester United they still have nothing to lose, and even if they decided to use all there key players and eventually wins Manchester United the points will make no meaning for them.

The way I'm seeing the match if Manchester United put more effort like the performance they put during their match against Chelsea it will surely be a win game for them.

This could be the primary factor why Manchester United still has a tiny chance to progress to the next round although they don't deserve it to be honest. The win against Chelsea now gave them some room to calm down and start focusing on their next games, but it would be insane if they do beat Bayern Munich and Copenhagen and Galatasaray finish their game with a draw and the chaotic club Manchester United ends up playing in the round of 16 in the Champions League. I think it would be ridiculous if we look at all the performances the team has shown this season.
Yeah I agree with you that Manchester United doesn't deserve the wining because they actually don't have what it takes to be there perhaps even if the eventually wins Bayern Munich there chances of wining any team on the next round is very small because the next round is really going to be tougher compare to the teams they have meet earlier, so that's why I said the possibility of Manchester United to be able to perform on the next round may not be certain because is going to be very competitive.

Well Copenhagen and Galatasaray match will determine the faith of Manchester United.
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December 07, 2023, 01:21:04 PM
Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

This does not surprise me because it is obvious that Manchester United will not have a chance in this game and that their campaign in the Champions League this season will end next week. Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16, but they continue to play as if they must win all of their remaining games to advance to the next round. They will not take it easy on Manchester United, and United are not in a position to even avert the pressure that Bayern Munich will integrate in this match.

Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches

Copenhagen also played well in their last match, which ended in a draw with Bayern Munich. I also have a little confidence in this club after watching them play their last game against Bayern Munich. It was clear that Copenhagen would give their all in this match in order to qualify for the round of 16 alongside Bayern Munich. They also have the advantage of playing at home; if they play well, they can win this match; if they don't, Galatasaray will mercilessly beat them and force them to give up their chances of qualifying for the round of 16. This will be a difficult match for these two teams, so a prediction on how they will fare cannot be ascertained now.
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December 07, 2023, 01:20:18 PM
After seeing Manchester City's performance recently I started to doubt their future performances in the Champions League also. Because there is a huge decline in their performance. After getting 3 draws in a row in the Premier League they played a horrible game against Aston Villa. They were not much different than a ghost on the pitch.  Sad

If Guardiola can't make this team recover as soon as possible I'm really worried about their future in the season. They might finish it without a big title.

I wonder what the reason behind has been so far. Because everything started all of a sudden and still goes on badly for many weeks.
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December 07, 2023, 01:10:42 PM
Obviously that is a difficult thing to do considering that Munich is not a weak club, they are the strongest club in the UCL so they will probably have difficulty winning against them. Let's just say that if Manchester United managed to win narrowly with 1 - 0, that doesn't guarantee qualification either because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will not be able to play a draw because one of them wants to qualify from the group to the next round.
It could be said that Man United only has a 5% chance of qualifying for the last 16, they need a miracle in these two matches. Man United can beat Bayern Munich on the other hand Galatasaray vs Copenhagen must be a draw. As you said, Galatasaray and Copenhagen of course also beat each other so that they can qualify so this match is unlikely to end in a draw.
I do agree that it is going to be a low chance, but not because the other game won't be a draw. I think it is a lot less likely that United would win, that's the hardest part for them, of course other teams could beat each other as well, but that is not impossible, we could see them beat each other for sure, we just need to make sure that United wins too for that to mean something.

If United gets a draw, or loss, then the other game result doesn't even matter, and I think they could get a draw that game as well, Copenhagen and Galatasaray are not too different from each other, feels like it should be a game that may end up in  a draw if you ask me, like the first game was. Copenhagen has more advantage, draw at away game, could mean a win at away game. In that situation Galatasaray should pray United loses.
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December 07, 2023, 01:07:29 PM
Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches
Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches

So far the weakest team in this group is Manchester United. I also think Galatasaray have a better chance to stay in second place. I don't think Copenhagen or Manchester United can do it. Their performances have been worse than Galatasaray's.
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December 07, 2023, 12:47:36 PM
It can be done if Manchester United win against Bayern and Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray indirectly they will definitely qualify because they are 1 point ahead of Copenhagen and Galatasaray but if they win but one of Copenhagen and Galatasaray wins then they will only be in the Europa League but another possibility if Manchester United lose or draw then they will only be at the bottom of the standings without being able to say much for the Champions League this season.

I personally wouldn't expect too much actually but of course Manchester United winning is very good just that Bayern don't want to lose their unbeaten record in the group phase.
Yes, opportunities will always be there in football, I look a bit pessimistic about Manchester United, their chances are very small to qualify for the next phase, because Copenhagen and Galatasaray will go all out in the deciding match for Group A, of course Copenhagen in this match has the advantage It's very big to win the match later, because they are playing at their own headquarters. Mentally, of course Galatasaray will be under pressure from the boisterous support of the crowd, of course the two coaches already know how each team plays, it is the fitness and cohesiveness of each player that can Pumping this all up.


Galatasaray's performance in the last matches was very good. They may seem to be behind in the rankings now, but they played very well even in the matches they lost and were a little unlucky. So I think they have a good chance of winning in the next match.
Of course, it will be a very difficult match and a very difficult away game, but if Galatasaray wins this match, it will be 2nd in the group. That's why I think they will come to the match very prepared, they will not make the simple mistakes they made in other matches
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December 07, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
Bayern Munich is not the type of team that will play this match as one of the normal ones they do play since they’ve already qualified. They will want to play this match with full strength in order to have a good record on Manchester United in the future. Poor Manchester United, and their form doesn’t speak well of them to be able to hold this team to even a draw. We will have between Copenhagen and Galatasaray to join Bayern Munich from this group for the round of sixteen of the champions league.
On the contrary I don't think the match will be that serious because in as much as Bayern Munich want to put more effort on that match but the competition ahead of them will make them to reserve there players for more tougher match to come because even if they lose the match against Manchester United they still have nothing to lose, and even if they decided to use all there key players and eventually wins Manchester United the points will make no meaning for them.

The way I'm seeing the match if Manchester United put more effort like the performance they put during their match against Chelsea it will surely be a win game for them.

This could be the primary factor why Manchester United still has a tiny chance to progress to the next round although they don't deserve it to be honest. The win against Chelsea now gave them some room to calm down and start focusing on their next games, but it would be insane if they do beat Bayern Munich and Copenhagen and Galatasaray finish their game with a draw and the chaotic club Manchester United ends up playing in the round of 16 in the Champions League. I think it would be ridiculous if we look at all the performances the team has shown this season.
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December 07, 2023, 12:21:20 PM
Bayern Munich is not the type of team that will play this match as one of the normal ones they do play since they’ve already qualified. They will want to play this match with full strength in order to have a good record on Manchester United in the future. Poor Manchester United, and their form doesn’t speak well of them to be able to hold this team to even a draw. We will have between Copenhagen and Galatasaray to join Bayern Munich from this group for the round of sixteen of the champions league.
On the contrary I don't think the match will be that serious because in as much as Bayern Munich want to put more effort on that match but the competition ahead of them will make them to reserve there players for more tougher match to come because even if they lose the match against Manchester United they still have nothing to lose, and even if they decided to use all there key players and eventually wins Manchester United the points will make no meaning for them.

The way I'm seeing the match if Manchester United put more effort like the performance they put during their match against Chelsea it will surely be a win game for them.
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December 07, 2023, 11:53:01 AM
Atletico Madrid have done a really great work in the group stage until now. They will probably finish the stage as the leader as I think that they would beat Lazio home in their last group game. They have been impressive statistically also because they have 3.0 goal average per game at the moment. Considering that they don't have a too easy group this is really good.

I mean that Celtic is of course the weakest link here. They couldn't do anything good until now and they don't even have a chance left for the Europa League.

But Lazio and Feyenoord haven't been easy competitors for Atletico Madrid.
It is certain that Atletico will do it against Lazio and I think away wins are also very important as a statistical record of wins against other teams from outside Spain. Lazio looks like they will face difficulties in this away match but even if they lose they will still qualify with Atletico for the round of 16.

Celtic are the only points producing team in Group E and I didn't expect them to be this bad without a single win in the 5 matches they have played. But if Celtic can get 3 points at home against Feyenoord at least it can cure their failure in the Champions League this season.
The match between Atletico Madrid vs Lazio in the last match in my opinion will not be interesting anymore, because both teams have confirmed themselves in the last 16, it's just that maybe in this match it will fight over who will be the top of the standings. I think these two teams will economize their energy, or in other words they will not be exhausted to win and they will prefer to maintain their physical condition in the match in the knock out round later.

The other match between Celtic vs Feyenoord will also be the same, it is certain who will go to the Europa League and who will be completely eliminated without another competition. Celtic may want to close out this game with a win, but it won't matter at all.
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December 07, 2023, 11:35:56 AM
Ten hag is always trying to do his best to make sure manchester united will always be able to climbing up. The only problem if sometimes you can't even expect if there was a problem occured to the players. Glad to see that the players who were always getting blamed by the fans are performing so crazily at the middle of season. I must be named all of them and they are meguire and tominay. Even meguire has become a player of the month and this proves that if those dudes are still very important for the club.

Manchester united was almost kicking him from the club in the last summer transfer season. Anything is still remain unpredictable in the football. You can say that if manchester united was doing very important thing but in fact if it is also performing so perfect right now.
People are unable predicting the situation to be even better than before. It's unpredictable to see tominay and meguire play so well together. It would be a mistake to sell meguire.  
Maguire is a typical player who works hard even though he received a lot of criticism from fans and was benched by Erik Ten Hak, but when he was given the opportunity because Luke Shaw, Martinez and Bissaka were injured he made good use of it. If you pay attention, Maguire is one of the players who is very serious when playing and he is trying to restore his performance even though he is under great pressure. Maguire can be said to be one of the best players this month and in the last match against Chelsea his contribution was so great that Man United managed to win the match.

The percentage of qualifying for the round of 16 is quite small, but we still have hope and hopefully Man United can beat Bayern Munich with a bigger margin. Onana needs to be rested by Erik Ten Hak and I really hope that Bayindir is given a chance in the last match of the group phase so that there is a difference in that match.
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December 07, 2023, 11:15:29 AM
Mathematically, it's still very much possible for Manchester United to progress to the next round of the UEFA Champions League competition and that's if they can beat Bayern Munich at home while Copenhagen play our a draw against Galatasaray but in my own opinion, they'll need a miracle to reach the round of 16 in the competition because the last two matches in the group is very unlikely to produce such results.  Bayern Munich has been very impressive since the start of the season and are one of the few clubs that are yet to lose a game in the competition so for Manchester United to beat them in that game at Old Trafford next week, they'll have to play to their full strength while hoping for Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel not to field his strongest squad since they've already won the group.

Copenhagen home game against Galatasaray is also unlikely to produce a draw because the two teams knows what's at stake going into the game. Copenhagen will be playing in front of their home fans and that I think will give them extra motivation to win the game and progress to round of 16 while Turkish champions Galatasaray also will be seeking to win the game to reach the knockout stages. Any of the three teams between Manchester United, Copenhagen and Galatasaray can still qualify but Manchester United in my opinion are in a more difficult situation to make to the knockout stages of the competition.

Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

It's hard to say how MU would be getting motivate. The chance owned by manchester united is very small. The main requirement that shall be fulfilled if copenhagen must get draw against galatasaray. The key is about how one of team from other match will not able to win the game. Mu will have a chance to surpass their points as long as MU will able to beat bayern but this unlikely to happen. i consider that if bayern is a strong team right now.

This is why im become quite skeptical with manchester united's chance to pass the group stage. I would rather than watch the match between copenhagen vs galatasray instead of manchester united vs bayern.
The match betwen galatasaray vs copenhagen will become the hottest match. It's caued by this match is going to determine the fate of three clubs in the group.

1 for knockout stage, 1 for UEL and 1 out from UCL.
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December 07, 2023, 11:00:20 AM
It's true what you say. I think United would be better off focusing on getting a place in the top four to get a ticket to the Champions League next season. Currently they are in 6th place in the standings and they still have a very big chance of doing that. I'm not sure if they can qualify for the UEFA Europa League. And if you look at United's current quality I think it's better for them to stay focused on the EPL.
Trying to get to the top four in the Premier League will also not be easy this season, unless the Manchester United team has a new breakthrough in the way they play. Because in general Manchester United still has a lot to improve this season and they also still need to buy better players when the transfer market opens again so that they have different strengths after that.

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Many fans are urging club management to replace Ten Hag. It seems like they have given the coach many opportunities. I don't know what considerations the club management had in mind when deciding to keep Ten Hag.
Maybe the club management is looking at who is worthy to coach Manchester United, because currently Manchester United not only lacks tactics, but also lacks the best players so that Manchester United is only able to win narrowly and with certain teams, such as when facing Chelsea. Meanwhile, with a stronger team, they are likely to always lose this season.

No one can guarantee whether Manchester United will always lose or not when playing against other top teams. Because ya, after all, here in the Champions League group stage also the fact that Manchester United only won once and even, against a very unfavored team like Copenhagen the fact that Manchester United can still be defeated. So ya, I personally cannot guarantee for a result whether it will win or lose, because at least Manchester United at this moment has an unstable performance. Therefore, whether Manchester United to focus on the Premier League or the Champion League, because in the end Manchester United is still difficult to become a winner.
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December 07, 2023, 10:42:50 AM
Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

Even without the bookmakers prediction of this match, every football game lover will know that the probability of Manchester United winning this match is very small and cannot be counted on. They have already given up their opportunities that would have given them a better chance of qualifying for the round of sixteen, at this moment, they are in a very tight situation that has minimal chances of qualification. Not even a draw in this match will give them a hope of qualifying.

Bayern Munich is not the type of team that will play this match as one of the normal ones they do play since they’ve already qualified. They will want to play this match with full strength in order to have a good record on Manchester United in the future. Poor Manchester United, and their form doesn’t speak well of them to be able to hold this team to even a draw. We will have between Copenhagen and Galatasaray to join Bayern Munich from this group for the round of sixteen of the champions league.
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December 07, 2023, 10:42:17 AM
It can be done if Manchester United win against Bayern and Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray indirectly they will definitely qualify because they are 1 point ahead of Copenhagen and Galatasaray but if they win but one of Copenhagen and Galatasaray wins then they will only be in the Europa League but another possibility if Manchester United lose or draw then they will only be at the bottom of the standings without being able to say much for the Champions League this season.

I personally wouldn't expect too much actually but of course Manchester United winning is very good just that Bayern don't want to lose their unbeaten record in the group phase.
Yes, opportunities will always be there in football, I look a bit pessimistic about Manchester United, their chances are very small to qualify for the next phase, because Copenhagen and Galatasaray will go all out in the deciding match for Group A, of course Copenhagen in this match has the advantage It's very big to win the match later, because they are playing at their own headquarters. Mentally, of course Galatasaray will be under pressure from the boisterous support of the crowd, of course the two coaches already know how each team plays, it is the fitness and cohesiveness of each player that can Pumping this all up.
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December 07, 2023, 10:41:11 AM
Trying to get to the top four in the Premier League will also not be easy this season, unless the Manchester United team has a new breakthrough in the way they play. Because in general Manchester United still has a lot to improve this season and they also still need to buy better players when the transfer market opens again so that they have different strengths after that.
They have to try to get it because a position in top four of Premier League will help them having chances to play in Champions League. This chance has many meanings for them, first for their club finance, second for their players with opportunities to play against strong clubs in Europe. Matches in Champions League will help their players learning many great lessons and can help them growing up more.

I am not sure if Bayern Munich will play to win this match. If Bayern Munich is playing to win then I would say winning against Manchester United is not a tough task for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich does not need to win this match but Manchester United must win it. I am sure Bayern Munich will not play with attitude like giving away a big gift for Manchester United, come and get three points from them.

That match will not be an easy one for Manchester United because the opponent is strong even with their second team. More challenging, Manchester United will have to play this match with so much pressure and I think we already know how weak their players' mentality is.
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December 07, 2023, 10:16:48 AM
Sometimes Criticism makes someone more better,Maguire has suffered criticism and abuse in the hands of their fans,but the player kept on believing in himself and kept on doing what he was supposed to do,and finally,things have changed,he is no longer the topic of the day,rather,he is used as an example to urge other players belt up and  improve.Maguire is really an example to many United players who are performing below expectation to believe in themselves and try to improve on their performance.Manchester United shocked everybody when they won Chelsea who everybody thought were going to win in this encounter in the premier league.
It is good to see them win a big team again.

I agree with you, criticism some times is needed to get some one better than they have been as it will most likely go a long way in helping them becoming aware of their performance and know were to and how to improve such that they will escape further criticism, although sometimes it could break some one if not done constructively.

Another person who needs same approach should be Bruno Fernandes, he is one player who I think is making some moves that has been over looked over time and may gradually get an effect on the team if not curbed now, although he has been of good performance before now but currently it's below expectations and it doesn't seem like ten hag is aware or maybe he is one of his fave because he's also doing similar thing with Onana .
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December 07, 2023, 10:11:43 AM
It's true what you say. I think United would be better off focusing on getting a place in the top four to get a ticket to the Champions League next season. Currently they are in 6th place in the standings and they still have a very big chance of doing that. I'm not sure if they can qualify for the UEFA Europa League. And if you look at United's current quality I think it's better for them to stay focused on the EPL.
Trying to get to the top four in the Premier League will also not be easy this season, unless the Manchester United team has a new breakthrough in the way they play. Because in general Manchester United still has a lot to improve this season and they also still need to buy better players when the transfer market opens again so that they have different strengths after that.

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Many fans are urging club management to replace Ten Hag. It seems like they have given the coach many opportunities. I don't know what considerations the club management had in mind when deciding to keep Ten Hag.
Maybe the club management is looking at who is worthy to coach Manchester United, because currently Manchester United not only lacks tactics, but also lacks the best players so that Manchester United is only able to win narrowly and with certain teams, such as when facing Chelsea. Meanwhile, with a stronger team, they are likely to always lose this season.
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December 07, 2023, 10:09:10 AM
Atletico Madrid have done a really great work in the group stage until now. They will probably finish the stage as the leader as I think that they would beat Lazio home in their last group game. They have been impressive statistically also because they have 3.0 goal average per game at the moment. Considering that they don't have a too easy group this is really good.

I mean that Celtic is of course the weakest link here. They couldn't do anything good until now and they don't even have a chance left for the Europa League.

But Lazio and Feyenoord haven't been easy competitors for Atletico Madrid.
It is certain that Atletico will do it against Lazio and I think away wins are also very important as a statistical record of wins against other teams from outside Spain. Lazio looks like they will face difficulties in this away match but even if they lose they will still qualify with Atletico for the round of 16.

Celtic are the only points producing team in Group E and I didn't expect them to be this bad without a single win in the 5 matches they have played. But if Celtic can get 3 points at home against Feyenoord at least it can cure their failure in the Champions League this season.

This match doesn't matter a lot for those clubs. I think that those clubs will not be playing seriously in the last matchday. I would prefer to take other match as the main concern instead of this match. We have learned that if we can also be pranked by those teams. Lazio and atletico madrid have been qualified and there's no need to bet on this match. I would rather than try to take a bet in another group like group a or f instead of it.

Manchester united and some clubs in the group F were struggling. They were facing their last chances to qualify for the knock out stage. Im sure that they are all going all in against their opponents.
Some clubs are trying so hard to qualify even though it has no chance anymore like manchester united. Ten hag is surely praying for his club to get a miracle then Mu will able to qualify but the chance is very very small.
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December 07, 2023, 10:06:51 AM
They must win against Bayern while hoping Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw and that is not an easy matter.
Obviously that is a difficult thing to do considering that Munich is not a weak club, they are the strongest club in the UCL so they will probably have difficulty winning against them. Let's just say that if Manchester United managed to win narrowly with 1 - 0, that doesn't guarantee qualification either because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will not be able to play a draw because one of them wants to qualify from the group to the next round.

I just think that it is possible that Galatasaray will qualify for the group accompanying Munich because of course Manchester United will not succeed. But even if they qualify or not, Manchester United still have to play as hard as possible and not suffer another defeat in this last match which will also determine whether they qualify or not.
Personally, Im not expecting much from Manchester United versus Bayern. Bayern's UCL strength makes it difficult. United's tight triumph doesnt ensure a simple ride against a tough opponent. Football is unpredictable, though. United's game at Old Trafford may offer them a mental edge against the odds. Taking advantage and playing with what they have is key. In the second scenario, Copenhagen vs. Galatasaray is anyone's game. A draw is improbable as both sides compete for a spot in the following round. If United beats Bayern and one of them wins, it may imply Europa League for United. Football's complexity is its appeal, right? There are always surprises, and miracles happen in sports.
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