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Quote from: makishart on December 04, 2023, 07:53:26 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 04, 2023, 05:48:07 AM

Porto and Shakthar will appear all out in their last match, because the results of the match will determine whether they will qualify for the last 16 or not. For Porto maybe a draw is enough to bring them to the knockout round, but still if they play it safe then the risk is also very large, because it is certain that Shakthar will appear all out. As for Shakhtar, victory is the only way they can get 1 ticket to the last 16.
The problem for them is that they will play as a guest team, and when their first meeting also lost to Porto, of course this will be even more difficult.

Porto had beaten shakhtar with 3-1 as the final result in the first leg. Im sure porto will be doing it again in the second leg. The chance for porto to win against shakhtar is far bigger. Porto is really strong. Porto has destroyed shakhtar when it was playing away and the next match is going to happen at porto's home. How can i pick shakhtar to win the game? porto is obviously the best choice in this match. Im sure that porto will be once again humiliate shakhtar. The club needs to prepare very strong mentality once it will be playing away against shakhtar.

Im predicting at least 3 -4 goals to be made in this match. Porto looks very superior compared with shakhtar donetsk. Shakhtar's chance is very small to win against porto. Porto has known the main weakness of shakhtar.
Porto will be humiliating shakhtar. Everyone will take porto for this match.

Yes at a glance and if you look at the results of their previous matches, it is not wrong to be Porto as a favorite. But Porto are now at a greater burden in my opinion, why? because usually with Shakhtar's status as a guest team and they are required to win, then Shakthtar will play as they can. If they are good at realizing their status, then they will appear as it is or you could say whether they qualify or not they don't think about it. But that's also if they think so.

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Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

Bayern have no problems in the Bundesliga and, on the contrary, they lack strong opponents to train with, so I expect Bayern to play at full strength and therefore most likely to beat United. Moreover, the game could end with a score of 3-5 or something like that (if United is able to resist), but I think that Bayern will win. The most interesting thing is who will win in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray pair. Both teams played solid football and it's a pity that someone had to be the loser.

I've often said this actually, that they are already comfortable when passing the 4th match, they just need to relax and wait for their next opponent in the Champions League. But will they be able to accept being defeated by Manchester United? in my opinion not, because prestige is also at stake there. They also looked not very ambitious in the previous match and could only play a draw and I think that's what they will do, if they don't win then at least they don't lose, that's the most realistic in my opinion.

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Quote from: hahay on December 04, 2023, 11:09:12 AM

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

Manchester United must determine their own fate and depending on the results of Copenhagen match with Galatasaray, if these two competitors draw while Manchester United manages to beat Bayern Munich, then Manchester United will certainly qualify for the knockout rounds. But if one of Copenhagen and Galatasaray wins the match, Manchester United victory will not be able to keep them in the UCL. Ten Hag must try to save Manchester United so they can survive in European competition, at least if they are eliminated from the UCL they can get a ticket to the Europa League.

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Quote from: hahay on December 04, 2023, 11:09:12 AM

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

Bayern have no problems in the Bundesliga and, on the contrary, they lack strong opponents to train with, so I expect Bayern to play at full strength and therefore most likely to beat United. Moreover, the game could end with a score of 3-5 or something like that (if United is able to resist), but I think that Bayern will win. The most interesting thing is who will win in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray pair. Both teams played solid football and it's a pity that someone had to be the loser.

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I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.

Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.

There is no other way for Manchester United other than to win the last match of the group stage which will be played at Old Trafford. Bayern Munich, which has been confirmed as group winners, will not take risks in this match, perhaps Tuchel will field a second layer of squad to give the reserve players a chance to play while also resting the main players who have always played in different competitions.
If Thomas Tuchel uses substitute players at Old Trafford, Manchester United must take advantage of the opportunity to add three points. Victory will open up opportunities for Manchester United to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16 if the other match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray is a draw.

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Quote from: Roseline492 on December 04, 2023, 09:48:48 AM

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Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.

You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

I think it's pointless to give Manchester United any confidence of coming out successfully from the group stage to the next stage, even Europa is not guarantee right now in this stage but I know that it's not a good thing to give up even when there is no hope. If Manchester United comes out of this creepy hole and make a good way to the Champions League, trust me they will go far after that because they will be the most luckiest team to come far after all the gimmick that is surrounding them.

Erik Ten need to do better and scold players when necessary, he is always defending Onana but I get his reason, he doesn't want to be judge for making bad decisions about the player he thinks was better than David De Gea but I still prefer De Gea over any goalkeeper that Manchester United and Ten Hag will bring to that team.

Erik Ten Hag should not mix business up with feelings, Some certain players are not working hard and will lead to him being sacked. Do you also feel like he's gradually losing control of the dressing room? There are player's that needs to leave the club honestly, they have played from the time of Jose Mourinho till date they all need to be part of the so called rebuild shit.

For the Champions League, they shouldn't even go.for the Europa League Competition, instead of that they should be knockout completely. Manchester United can only qualify with luck and God Grace!!

@Cookdata, no, I don't think there is any hope about Manchester United in the Champions League anymore. Yes,they could have done so much better even with the team that they have currently. But they were unable to do literally anything. Whenever there are 1/2 good matches people seem to forget that Manchester United is trash right now. And I absolutely agree that bringing in Onana and saying that he is better compared to De Gea is absolutely terrible from the coach. But what do you expect? This is the same coach who kicked out Cristiano Ronaldo and kept Harry Maguire in the team. Even when there was a chance to sell him, he said that Harry Maguire is very important for the squad.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 04, 2023, 08:53:37 AM

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I agree with you, if Manchester united eventually win Bayern probably because bayern use theirs rotational payers knowing how risk free this match is to them and it turns in favour of Manchester united, they will still hope Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray.

Qualification is no longer in the hands of Manchester United, the best they can do is to get their own job done by beating Bayern Munich and hope for a miracle in the other game. Beating Bayern isn't going to be an easy task, i know Bayern have already qualified and they might not play their first team, but any team bayern plays is going to be a strong one, United themselves are in a bad position, they are lacking in confidence, so they might fail to win even if Bayern plays a weaker team.

Qualification to the champions league finals is no longer in the hands of Manchester United. What they really can influence is to be able to qualify for Europa League and for them to do that they really need to beat Bayern Munich which is not so impossible for them to do because Bayern Munich will still remain at the top of the group table whether they win or lose. Infact Bayern Munich has already qualified for another level of the champions league competition this season. This means they might not necessarily fixture all their stars, however Harry Kane must be available.

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This will be a difficult match for Manchester United because they will face Bayern Munich, but there is no other choice for Erik Ten Hag but to mobilize his best squad to play optimally and win this important match.
Even though it is impossible, nothing is impossible if Erik Ten Hag can formulate the best strategy and can also place the right players, with the best tactics and also prayers to beat Bayern Munich.
And I'm not saying Manchester United don't perform well, they are just inconsistent with match results but sometimes surprising.

Manchester United will indeed have a hard time innthe match because of the position of their opponent on the group table, Bayern Munich is topping the chat on the group stage level, and for such much of the pressure is on them to deliver on-time results so for sure, Bayern will be aiming to top the group even in the next stage so allowing Manchester United to have any chance, will result in them losing their position possibly and at some point there may be pressure from the man u squad but the truth is that it won't be an impossible mission for Manchester United to win the match but then it must have to do with alot of luck on their side.

When the spirit of Manchester United has not left the club. I mean when they were called the red devils, winning Bayern Munich is not a difficulty task to them. It is just that things have really fallen apart in the Manchester United squad and what Erik Ten Hang need to do is to build with strength and pressure the more. That is the only way out, he started it last season and gave up.

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0 chance for sevilla to be qualified. Im not expecting a lot from this guy. In fact, sevilla is also having the last chance to get into the europa league as long as it will be able to beat lens. This is another hard task that must be done by 5 times europa league winner.
Will sevilla back to the europa league? maybe yes, maybe no. We will know the answer later. Sevilla needs also to put its focus into the la liga caused by it has horrible performance.

I don't know what things that made sevilla played so badly in any competitions. Is there something wrong with the club? Time will tell us.
The new coach seems unable to bring up the performance sevilla again. It seems like the gamble to replace mendilibar was a flop. Sevilla could give mendilibar more time before try to sack him.
So, sevilla used the same trick when it was sacking the coach before mendilibar. Sevilal

Sevilla are really in a sad condition now and I still think that it was a huge mistake they made when they parted ways with Mendilibar early in this season. Because he was the manager who made them champions in the Europa League last season. In addition in his management the team recovered really well in the La Liga also.

I wonder who thought of parting ways with Mendilibar in the first place. Why would you be so in a hurry to make big decisions? You have a good manager in the end. I just don't understand this kind of boards. Sad

If I'm not mistaken about Sevilla, they are reportedly hit by a financial crisis. As a result, they were forced to let go of several important players who had contributed to the Europa League last season. What was worse, Sevilla was forced to part with their technical director Monchi. The situation then became more complicated than expected, and on October 8 management had to take a stand by relieving Mendilibar of his duties.

On the one hand, management had high hopes for the new coach with the dismissal of Mendilibar, but until week 15 we have not seen any signs of revival from them. Sevilla have not tasted the sweetness of winning 8 matches, the last time they tasted victory over Almeria 5-1 in Week 7.

Sevilla progress in the Champions League has been dashed, their only hope is for the Europa League play-offs. First they have to beat Lens, which is a bit difficult because in this match they will act as the visiting team. Especially with its current performance, on paper Lens deserves to be superior on matchday 6.

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Quote from: Roseline492 on December 04, 2023, 09:48:48 AM

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Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.

You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

Actually, what you said is correct: Bayern will not focus on winning or losing in this match. But I believe they will still bring out the official lineup for the game. Their elimination of MU is also something that needs to be done because MU is still a heavy opponent in this arena. They will still play their best to bring home victory, helping the whole team have the spirit of winning and being undefeated this season.
MU's victory over Bayern was difficult because, in the first match, they were defeated by Bayern. There will be no chance for them. Hopefully, MU will try to protect the goal and not concede too many goals. This will shock MU fans.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on December 04, 2023, 08:06:43 AM

This will be a difficult match for Manchester United because they will face Bayern Munich, but there is no other choice for Erik Ten Hag but to mobilize his best squad to play optimally and win this important match.
Even though it is impossible, nothing is impossible if Erik Ten Hag can formulate the best strategy and can also place the right players, with the best tactics and also prayers to beat Bayern Munich.
And I'm not saying Manchester United don't perform well, they are just inconsistent with match results but sometimes surprising.

I don't think Erik ten hag has an issue with mobilizing his squad as they are very much okay and probably in what looks like a good form but personally I see most of the problems with himself, as a Coach with such attitude which he posseses, it's very paramount that his players will be affected in many ways which is obvious at the moment.

These players look like they will do better under the supervision of another coach, all the need is a better tactical strategy by the coach and good placement of the players with a better relationship with them mad not parading his ego around the players which makes them in turn very uncomfortable in the team. they will be facing a team who lack non of all these so in oder to be an equal or ahead, they have to put all this in place I'd he must get a win or a draw from them even if it's obvious it will not help them qualify but it will tell on their confidence after now.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on December 04, 2023, 08:06:43 AM

This will be a difficult match for Manchester United because they will face Bayern Munich, but there is no other choice for Erik Ten Hag but to mobilize his best squad to play optimally and win this important match.
Even though it is impossible, nothing is impossible if Erik Ten Hag can formulate the best strategy and can also place the right players, with the best tactics and also prayers to beat Bayern Munich.
And I'm not saying Manchester United don't perform well, they are just inconsistent with match results but sometimes surprising.

Manchester United will indeed have a hard time innthe match because of the position of their opponent on the group table, Bayern Munich is topping the chat on the group stage level, and for such much of the pressure is on them to deliver on-time results so for sure, Bayern will be aiming to top the group even in the next stage so allowing Manchester United to have any chance, will result in them losing their position possibly and at some point there may be pressure from the man u squad but the truth is that it won't be an impossible mission for Manchester United to win the match but then it must have to do with alot of luck on their side.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 04, 2023, 05:48:07 AM

Porto and Shakthar will appear all out in their last match, because the results of the match will determine whether they will qualify for the last 16 or not. For Porto maybe a draw is enough to bring them to the knockout round, but still if they play it safe then the risk is also very large, because it is certain that Shakthar will appear all out. As for Shakhtar, victory is the only way they can get 1 ticket to the last 16.
The problem for them is that they will play as a guest team, and when their first meeting also lost to Porto, of course this will be even more difficult.

Shakhtar's main problem in this match is that it will be the away team and its fans will not be able to support it as it deserves. Although Porto is a strong competitor, it is not difficult for Shakhtar to achieve victory given the excellence of its players in decisive matches.
Recent analysis of historical statistic data, including recent performances and player stats up, suggested the most likely outcome of this match was a Porto win with a probability of 56.3%. Still this prediction gives 43.7% to Shakhtar which is not that bad at all.
Although I am confident that Shakhtar-Donetsk is able to extract a profit from Porto, I am still hesitant between betting on Shakhtar or settling for a draw.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on December 04, 2023, 08:36:39 AM

Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.

You are right because with the points Bayern Munich have right now there focus is not much on there match against Manchester United because they will like to reserve most of there key players so that they will have enough energy to perform well on there next round, so that will make them use there younger players against Manchester United.

So however if Manchester United utilizes the opportunity and win Bayern Munich they could stand a bit chance of hopping for the second position if Galatasaray and Copenhagen plays draw.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 04, 2023, 02:27:42 AM

0 chance for sevilla to be qualified. Im not expecting a lot from this guy. In fact, sevilla is also having the last chance to get into the europa league as long as it will be able to beat lens. This is another hard task that must be done by 5 times europa league winner.
Will sevilla back to the europa league? maybe yes, maybe no. We will know the answer later. Sevilla needs also to put its focus into the la liga caused by it has horrible performance.

I don't know what things that made sevilla played so badly in any competitions. Is there something wrong with the club? Time will tell us.
The new coach seems unable to bring up the performance sevilla again. It seems like the gamble to replace mendilibar was a flop. Sevilla could give mendilibar more time before try to sack him.
So, sevilla used the same trick when it was sacking the coach before mendilibar. Sevilal

Sevilla are really in a sad condition now and I still think that it was a huge mistake they made when they parted ways with Mendilibar early in this season. Because he was the manager who made them champions in the Europa League last season. In addition in his management the team recovered really well in the La Liga also.

I wonder who thought of parting ways with Mendilibar in the first place. Why would you be so in a hurry to make big decisions? You have a good manager in the end. I just don't understand this kind of boards. Sad

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Quote from: Awaklara on December 04, 2023, 08:58:02 AM

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Now the advancement is certain alone for Munich but the other three would have to fight in their own final games and still pray that the counterpart teams get a result that'd give them a chance to qualify as well. I don't know how United will face Munich because they're not in form even if they'd be the hosts, Munich are doing exceedingly well and they've not failed to make clubs stay down. Ten Hag has to do the greatest needful and also pray really hard because their destiny isn't in their hands solely.

Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.

Ten Hag must implement an all-out strategy in the final match of the UCL group phase. there is no other choice but to win against Munich. It seems difficult, but maybe luck will help MU beat Munich.
Meanwhile, Copenhagen and Galatasaray are still very likely to end in a draw like their first match. in such a situation, goal points will also be very influential. all teams must think through several scenarios. but the main thing is still to get a win for their respective teams.

What strategy it is? im sure bayern has been also aware with the gameplay of manchester united. The only chance for manchester united will be there only if copenhagen gets draw against galatasaray. If either of those teams are winning the game.
MU will be finished. No chance for manchester united to go to the knock out stage. Talking about the probability owned by manchester united. United has only less than 10% go qualify for the next stage.
Winning against bayern is also mandatory for manchester united.

Im very pessimistic to believe if MU will be qualified for the knock out stage. It only needs a miracle right now. It's hard to imagine that if MU will be able to pass the group stage with very dramatic story
Let's see it soon.

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Quote from: Awaklara on December 04, 2023, 08:58:02 AM

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Quote from: QueenVera on December 04, 2023, 07:52:17 AM

Now the advancement is certain alone for Munich but the other three would have to fight in their own final games and still pray that the counterpart teams get a result that'd give them a chance to qualify as well. I don't know how United will face Munich because they're not in form even if they'd be the hosts, Munich are doing exceedingly well and they've not failed to make clubs stay down. Ten Hag has to do the greatest needful and also pray really hard because their destiny isn't in their hands solely.

Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.

Ten Hag must implement an all-out strategy in the final match of the UCL group phase. there is no other choice but to win against Munich. It seems difficult, but maybe luck will help MU beat Munich.
Meanwhile, Copenhagen and Galatasaray are still very likely to end in a draw like their first match. in such a situation, goal points will also be very influential. all teams must think through several scenarios. but the main thing is still to get a win for their respective teams.

The last match made the fans tense and hoped that Manchester United could get third place even though it was difficult, but Manchester United fans believed that luck would definitely happen, but for me, being able to hold a draw is a very good result because Bayern Munich has a much stronger depth of players than Manchester United. and maybe I no longer hope for Manchester United to win because I am too disappointed with Erik Ten Hag.
No matter how strong Manchester United's players are, if the coach is still Erik Ten Hag, it will be very difficult to improve the club's performance and it will probably only continue to suffer.

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Quote from: borovichok on December 04, 2023, 08:50:44 AM

Quote from: topbitcoin on December 04, 2023, 08:36:39 AM

Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.

Important games are not to be jeopardize this season. Scenarios are reached and events are watched for entertainment in UEFA Champions League. Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United are no threat for the Bundesliga Giant as they're easily winning matches, no stress. Bayern Munich have qualified for next round but they just have to take things really easy because there are upcoming tough matches which is very important for the club to win. Thomas Tuchel is brilliant, no doubt about that, the things set in place have ginger and boost the performance of the club.

I'm not going to talk about Bayern because they've already qualified but the scenario I'm referring to is the three clubs that still haven't confirmed themselves to qualify.
Currently the situation of the three teams below Bayern they still have a chance depending on the results of the matches that occur in the last match but specifically for Manchester United they are more complicated than Copenhagen and Galatasaray who only have to win the last match to qualify without caring about other clubs.
As for Bayern, they are actually not too strange with the results now because in the matches in the group phase in almost every season they can always win the group so now regardless of what Tuchel's achievements at Bayern they remain in the same position as before.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on December 04, 2023, 08:36:39 AM

Quote from: QueenVera on December 04, 2023, 07:52:17 AM

Now the advancement is certain alone for Munich but the other three would have to fight in their own final games and still pray that the counterpart teams get a result that'd give them a chance to qualify as well. I don't know how United will face Munich because they're not in form even if they'd be the hosts, Munich are doing exceedingly well and they've not failed to make clubs stay down. Ten Hag has to do the greatest needful and also pray really hard because their destiny isn't in their hands solely.

Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.

Ten Hag must implement an all-out strategy in the final match of the UCL group phase. there is no other choice but to win against Munich. It seems difficult, but maybe luck will help MU beat Munich.
Meanwhile, Copenhagen and Galatasaray are still very likely to end in a draw like their first match. in such a situation, goal points will also be very influential. all teams must think through several scenarios. but the main thing is still to get a win for their respective teams.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 04, 2023, 04:06:51 AM

I agree with you, if Manchester united eventually win Bayern probably because bayern use theirs rotational payers knowing how risk free this match is to them and it turns in favour of Manchester united, they will still hope Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray.

Qualification is no longer in the hands of Manchester United, the best they can do is to get their own job done by beating Bayern Munich and hope for a miracle in the other game. Beating Bayern isn't going to be an easy task, i know Bayern have already qualified and they might not play their first team, but any team bayern plays is going to be a strong one, United themselves are in a bad position, they are lacking in confidence, so they might fail to win even if Bayern plays a weaker team.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on December 04, 2023, 08:36:39 AM

Actually for Bayern from the 5th match they are also safe so they are not too eager to get 3 points in the previous match because after all they need to save energy for matches that are not too important.
But now we only look at the 3 teams whose points are still possible to qualify.
Several scenarios can happen in this 6th match because after all, even though Manchester United is the most likely club not to qualify in terms of probability, they can still compete, it's just that the way is still very difficult.
On the other hand, this is an opportunity for Copenhagen and Galatasaray because whoever wins will qualify for the next phase.

Important games are not to be jeopardize this season. Scenarios are reached and events are watched for entertainment in UEFA Champions League. Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United are no threat for the Bundesliga Giant as they're easily winning matches, no stress. Bayern Munich have qualified for next round but they just have to take things really easy because there are upcoming tough matches which is very important for the club to win. Thomas Tuchel is brilliant, no doubt about that, the things set in place have ginger and boost the performance of the club.

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