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Quote from: Docnaster on December 03, 2023, 09:44:02 AM

The transition in the midfield position of Real Madrid is already on the process as we've seen the club manager Carlo Ancelotti rotate his club in the best ways that we can ever imagine. Luka Modric and Toni Kroos I think are definitely gonna leave the club at the end of the season after a very successful spell with Real Madrid but their departure will only be felt by the Real Madrid fans because of their very important impact to the club's success in the last one decade and not because of the how difficult it'll be replace them because at the moment, the club already gave young midfield players that'll perfectly replace the duo at the club.

Federico Valverde, Camavinga, Aurelien Tchouameni and Jude Bellingham are already four of the best midfielders I Europe and have already learnt a lot from the veteran duo of Luka Modric and Toni Kroos. When they leave next summer, I don't think they'll be missed rather their successors are going to take the club to greater heights.

Real Madrid midfielder transition running well regarding have some players in this position injured but Madrid keep on the top performance exactly won all Champion League matches round stage. Jude Bellingham success become replacement for Luka Modric position and last match Brahim Diaz can play well as attacking midfielder. Not much problem with Madrid although Camavinga and Aurelien Tchouameni are injured because have Valverde can play well not only as winger but also he can filled holding midfielder position.

Real Madrid have one match left on round stage match against Union Berlin, seems not problem for making all winning match in group stage although have settle as top standings finish position. Indeed last game Carlo Ancelotti will make all player rotation and give chance for young player from the academy its not problem get three points.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 03, 2023, 08:32:21 AM

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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

Erik ten Hag certainly feels bad about what his team is facing at the moment, only being able to draw with Galasataray even though they were already ahead so the chance of getting through the group phase became very difficult and yesterday in the English Premier League they lost to Newcastle with a narrow score even though their strikers performed badly because they only had one chance throughout the match.
With what Manchester United has shown, they will return to being like the team of a few seasons ago and that is quite disappointing because when Erik Ten Hag arrived he could give a little hope that there would be changes at Manchester United but it turned out that it was only temporary and was disappointing again.
Against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford, maybe they still have a chance to win if their opponents don't play at full strength because the result of this match doesn't affect Bayern Munich, who will qualify while hoping that the other team's match ends in a draw, but being a team whose fate is determined by the other team is not fun.

Seeing MU drop points, I felt very disappointed in them. They extinguished their hopes of continuing in the Champions League with a draw against Galatasaray when they led by 2 goals. The defense made mistakes, and the offense failed to take advantage of good opportunities, leaving MU with almost no chance of passing the group stage. MU's defense received absolutely no help from Garnacho and Rashford. For me, there are too many unreliable elements in the MU team. Erik ten Hag is not maximizing the potential of striker Marcus Rashford. He is one of the most experienced players today. Rashford was excellent last year. There's no doubt about that. But this year, he is no longer himself.

I am not satisfied with coach Erik ten Hag's position arrangement. The future boss of Man United is Jim Ratcliffe. I believe that when power comes, he will fire ten Hag.

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Quote from: BALIK on December 03, 2023, 07:41:59 AM

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I am looking forward to see how Real Madrid succeeds in making the transition especially in their midfield. Bellingham was a present from heaven for them because he is filling so many gaps that Real Madrid feared could become a problem for them. But now he partially solves the striker problem, also adds strength to the midfield and also takes on responsibility for some tasks in the defense. I guess there is nothing else you can ask a player to do for the team. But Kroos will also be gone in the near future and his passing was one of the best I have ever seen in football. The accuracy is from a different planet and it still impresses me how calm he is with the ball.

Real Madrid has succeeded in building their future midfielders. We can see there are many young midfielders in Real Madrid squad. Bellingham is one of the most shining young midfielder of Real Madrid, he already contributed very well since his arrival in Real Madrid. But I think Bellingham doesn't fix the problem of striker problem totally, he is just a temporary solution. Bellingham position is still an attacking midfielder, he doesn't change to be a real striker. I sometimes feel worried about how long Bellingham can be productive in scoring goals. I realize he often gets difficulty to score goals in big matches, specifically when they play against the teams with strong defense. So, Real Madrid is still in urgent to sign a pure striker, Mbappe should be the real solution.

Yes, Kroos is one of the best midfielders in football history. When Kroos decides to leave Real Madrid, it will be a very sad moment for Real Madrid fans. Kroos isn't only a midfielder who has great ability in attacking but he is also good in defense. His accuracy in delivering assists is impressive, no one doubts it. We must always remember the trio Casemiro-Kroos-Modric, these legend midfielders of Real Madrid will be unforgettable.

The transition in the midfield position of Real Madrid is already on the process as we've seen the club manager Carlo Ancelotti rotate his club in the best ways that we can ever imagine. Luka Modric and Toni Kroos I think are definitely gonna leave the club at the end of the season after a very successful spell with Real Madrid but their departure will only be felt by the Real Madrid fans because of their very important impact to the club's success in the last one decade and not because of the how difficult it'll be replace them because at the moment, the club already gave young midfield players that'll perfectly replace the duo at the club.

Federico Valverde, Camavinga, Aurelien Tchouameni and Jude Bellingham are already four of the best midfielders I Europe and have already learnt a lot from the veteran duo of Luka Modric and Toni Kroos. When they leave next summer, I don't think they'll be missed rather their successors are going to take the club to greater heights.

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Quote from: tusandii on December 03, 2023, 08:07:03 AM

It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

Erik ten Hag certainly feels bad about what his team is facing at the moment, only being able to draw with Galasataray even though they were already ahead so the chance of getting through the group phase became very difficult and yesterday in the English Premier League they lost to Newcastle with a narrow score even though their strikers performed badly because they only had one chance throughout the match.
With what Manchester United has shown, they will return to being like the team of a few seasons ago and that is quite disappointing because when Erik Ten Hag arrived he could give a little hope that there would be changes at Manchester United but it turned out that it was only temporary and was disappointing again.
Against Bayern Munich at Old Trafford, maybe they still have a chance to win if their opponents don't play at full strength because the result of this match doesn't affect Bayern Munich, who will qualify while hoping that the other team's match ends in a draw, but being a team whose fate is determined by the other team is not fun.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 03, 2023, 06:31:46 AM

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Manchester United looks like it will fail and not be able to get through the group phase, this is of course very embarrassing because if we look at the contestants in group A it should be Manchester United who accompany Bayern Munich to qualify for the knockout round but the results that have been achieved are the opposite, of course this is very help their disappointed fans. If United really fail then Erik Ten Hag should be fired immediately because he has failed miserably in managing the team well. Apart from that, the man from the Netherlands should not look for excuses because the owner of the Red Devils has spent quite a lot of money to buy players.

It's obvious it will only take a miracle to get Manchester united pass the group stage in the champions league and I don't think such is going to happen because the team continually experience decline I'm their performance by every passing match, Erik ten hag should be fired.

Yesterday in the premier league where Manchester united played against Newcastle united, their performance was so poor that I don't think they will get a chance with Galatasaray in the champions league with such performance, and going by the impression seen yesterday it was obvious something isn't right with the team but it's yet to be made known to the media nevertheless the attitude of the entire team showed something isn't right and the Coach should me most responsible in that regards.

It very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag position.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on December 02, 2023, 06:40:42 PM

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It seems like there will be no end when we talk about Manchester United because it is proven that this team is the silliest in the Champions League this season. They often get the chance to win with a fairly decent goal difference but in the end they concede a goal that shouldn't have happened. This resulted in a draw to defeat and at the same time made their chances of qualifying even more impossible.

I don’t see a team that have misused more chances than Manchester United in the champions league this season. They always start most of their games well and end up conceding unexpected goals that are not deserving checking from the way they started the game and coordinating themselves in the field.

They have lost all hope for qualifying to the knockout stage of the competition. I am not baffled by this and I think they must have learnt their lessons from all the silly mistakes they’ve made in the competition. There performance is so poor that even in the domestic league they’re still losing games.

I have lost hope about Manchester United. Things are not going to improve unless they make big changes. There needs to be a new coach in the authority and there needs to be better players compared to what there are right now in the club. And I don't know why as soon as Manchester United is able to win one or two matches back to back, that is also not even against good clubs, people start to think that all the problems are over. And it also does not take them too much time to realize that it is not true. Manchester United should be winning matches consistently throughout the whole season. Supposed to be unexpected. But here we have wins that are unexpected.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 02, 2023, 04:53:06 PM

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It really annoying seeing how staggering Manchester United who were at their best during the Era of Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United is doing righ now and it has become a decade of unresolved problem. The formula and tactics of Manchester United under Eric Ten Hag is not yielding any positive result and is high time the club should act and try to give another manager the opportunity to try to see if things will be put in order at United. Very annoying seeing that Man United is at the bottom of a group where Galatasaray and Copenhagen are group contenders.

M.United management insists on Eric Ten Hag. They should definitely fire this guy, he has no success in this team.
I wonder what the M.United management really thinks, this man is hurting this team day by day.

True and i do support it. The management is too long to take a decision about him. Look at how fuckin mount and hojlind contributed nothing in EPL. These guys were failed transfer made by ten hag. Ten hag didn't even know how to correctly buy a good player.
The club like manchester city was able buying some golden talents while this manchester red keeps do another shit to buy non sense player to join in the club. This is a fucking non sense thing but MU needs to fire ten hag.

There are so many capable players who will be willing to be a new a appointment. Someone like conte and xabi are good names to replace ten hag's position in manchester united. Why don't MU fans feel tired with him?
As a bettor and the performance of manchester united was far from good. newcastle is always able beating it right now. MU is now getting another non sense result in EPL.
It's very tragic to see how manchester united's performance has been declining a lot.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on December 03, 2023, 07:32:33 AM

In almost every match, we actually become accustomed to seeing a blunder occur in Man United's back line which puts their goal in danger. And what is surprising is that Erik Ten Heg has not even been able to fix this problem until now. Even though this was a weakness, a fatal mistake actually caused this team to get a lot of bad results. One important thing to note about Man United is the lack of good teamwork. Sometimes their midfield is also less aggressive in helping out in defense. The point is that Erik Ten Heg has to do a lot of work if he wants to return Man United to their best form.

Man United at the end of last season looked like the club most ready to achieve good achievements in the Champions League this season. But after the season started and the Champions League started. We are all disappointed because Man United's performance this season is very different from their performance at the end of last season. I don't know what happened to this club. But I feel there are also problems within the Man United squad.

This season United have only won when facing teams whose quality is below them. Meanwhile, when playing big matches against teams with the same or better quality players, United always loses.
this was Ten Hag's fault when he couldn't fix the problems in the team for so long. He seemed to have made the same mistake.
United are finished in the Champions League. and Ten Hag will make many requests to bring in new players in the transfer market later. it will cover his shortcomings when shifting blame to squad material that is not good.

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Quote from: tiCeR on December 03, 2023, 05:04:14 AM

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I am looking forward to see how Real Madrid succeeds in making the transition especially in their midfield. Bellingham was a present from heaven for them because he is filling so many gaps that Real Madrid feared could become a problem for them. But now he partially solves the striker problem, also adds strength to the midfield and also takes on responsibility for some tasks in the defense. I guess there is nothing else you can ask a player to do for the team. But Kroos will also be gone in the near future and his passing was one of the best I have ever seen in football. The accuracy is from a different planet and it still impresses me how calm he is with the ball.

Real Madrid has succeeded in building their future midfielders. We can see there are many young midfielders in Real Madrid squad. Bellingham is one of the most shining young midfielder of Real Madrid, he already contributed very well since his arrival in Real Madrid. But I think Bellingham doesn't fix the problem of striker problem totally, he is just a temporary solution. Bellingham position is still an attacking midfielder, he doesn't change to be a real striker. I sometimes feel worried about how long Bellingham can be productive in scoring goals. I realize he often gets difficulty to score goals in big matches, specifically when they play against the teams with strong defense. So, Real Madrid is still in urgent to sign a pure striker, Mbappe should be the real solution.

Yes, Kroos is one of the best midfielders in football history. When Kroos decides to leave Real Madrid, it will be a very sad moment for Real Madrid fans. Kroos isn't only a midfielder who has great ability in attacking but he is also good in defense. His accuracy in delivering assists is impressive, no one doubts it. We must always remember the trio Casemiro-Kroos-Modric, these legend midfielders of Real Madrid will be unforgettable.

Yet I think that this has opened up a variety of new possibilities for Ancelotti as he himself has probably not expected Bellingham to bring his defensive-offensive role to perfection so quickly. If Bellingham scored half as many goals, everyone would still be impressed by him. But it is absolutely mandatory for Real Madrid for the future to have that position backed up or complemented with one of the best strikers on the market. If Bellingham has ever a long-lasting injury, the subsequent effects on the team could be devastating as he is one of the best allrounders ever.

It was actually impressive to see what Real Madrid did with their older generation of players. And of course, nobody is going to forget the midfield trio. But of course, like everything, the new generation is going to have to take the place of the older ones. And Jude Bellingham is definitely one of the best things that happened for Real Madrid. At least in recent times. Sometimes it feels like time is passing by really quick. Whatever it is, we have been entertained by the Real Madrid midfield a lot. Let's hope that we can get the same things from the new generation of Real Madrid midfielders.

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Quote from: Belarge on December 03, 2023, 12:35:22 AM

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Replacing Erik Ten Hag this season seems a little too late because Manchester United can no longer fight for the last 16 in the Champions League because there is 1 rather tough match remaining.
Manchester United management ought replace coach Erik Ten Hag in 1/3 when Manchester United experienced consecutive defeats in the Champions League where Manchester United could not get full points against Copenhagen and Galatasaray so Manchester United could still fight for the remaining matches to compete for 2nd place in Group A the UCL.

However, if in the domestic league it is not too late because in the EPL there are still many matches remaining and Manchester United can still fight for the top 3 positions so that next season Manchester United can get another Champions League ticket and try to be better than this season, then Manchester United management must do it. move quickly to think about the future fate of Manchester United.

UEFA Champions League is definitely not their place, and they will eliminated from all rounds, you know their next destination? They're heading back to England after playing the Bavarians. Erik Ten Hag and his players need some adjustments interms of play, nothing improving about their performance other than repeating the same old team's display which is consider poor results. Manchester united doesn't even deemed fit to play against Bayern Munich because everyone knows how vulnerable they have grown to become against elite teams. They don't have anything solid other than making mistakes that would lead to goals.

In almost every match, we actually become accustomed to seeing a blunder occur in Man United's back line which puts their goal in danger. And what is surprising is that Erik Ten Heg has not even been able to fix this problem until now. Even though this was a weakness, a fatal mistake actually caused this team to get a lot of bad results. One important thing to note about Man United is the lack of good teamwork. Sometimes their midfield is also less aggressive in helping out in defense. The point is that Erik Ten Heg has to do a lot of work if he wants to return Man United to their best form.

Man United at the end of last season looked like the club most ready to achieve good achievements in the Champions League this season. But after the season started and the Champions League started. We are all disappointed because Man United's performance this season is very different from their performance at the end of last season. I don't know what happened to this club. But I feel there are also problems within the Man United squad.

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Quote from: klidex on December 03, 2023, 12:12:28 AM

Replacing Erik Ten Hag this season seems a little too late because Manchester United can no longer fight for the last 16 in the Champions League because there is 1 rather tough match remaining.
Manchester United management ought replace coach Erik Ten Hag in 1/3 when Manchester United experienced consecutive defeats in the Champions League where Manchester United could not get full points against Copenhagen and Galatasaray so Manchester United could still fight for the remaining matches to compete for 2nd place in Group A the UCL.

However, if in the domestic league it is not too late because in the EPL there are still many matches remaining and Manchester United can still fight for the top 3 positions so that next season Manchester United can get another Champions League ticket and try to be better than this season, then Manchester United management must do it. move quickly to think about the future fate of Manchester United.

I agree if Erik Ten Hag is replaced but in reality changing coaches is not an easy thing especially in the middle of a team journey to a match, even though as bad as Ten Hag is, he knows better the problems the club is facing. If there was another training option I would favor that guy over Ten Hag.

However until now I still haven't found the right person to continue Manchester United tough task this season. Maybe everyone is fed up with the choice of players that Ten Hag bought I'm also quite annoyed because the budget given by Glazer is the main problem why this club continues to decline. In the UCL they were only able to win once and this was Manchester United worst result while contributing to the UCL.

In the Premier League Newcastle proved successful in eliminating Manchester United from the top 5 in the standings even though the score 1-0 still continued the negative trend of Ten Hag fatigue.

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Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 03, 2023, 05:31:49 AM

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I don't expect Erik ten Hag to get sacked in case of saying goodbye to the Champions League in the group stage already. The board would give him more time for the sake of the Premier League. However if things still continue to go badly there also then he might not be able to see the end of the season there.

Manchester United are going to have a really difficult match against Bayern Munich home in the last fixture here.

Bayern Munich have already guaranteed advancing as the leader. We saw how Copenhagen got a point from them in Allianz Arena as well.

Manchester United can also defeat Bayern Munich home if they play decently.

Yes, I agree with you that Erik Ten Hag will not get sacked because he failed to qualify for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I believe he will get sacked if, after the January transfer window, Manchester United does not play a competitive football that will make them to book a spot in the Premier League top four.

It's hard to believe if ten hag will not be gotten a sack letter once he will be failed to bring manchester united into the top 16. Ten hag was not as good as what people think. The position of manchester united was still the same.
I think that anything can happen. Ten hag may not get a sack letter after MU failed to qualify for the knockout stage, but it doesn't mean it will be staying at the club till the next year.
The club can sack him anytime once the management will be deciding it through seeing the result from EPL. It's really disappointed about how manchester united was performing so badly.

Mu deserves to be coached by a better coach than him. I hope the management can take a very wise decision regarding his future in the club.
Manchester united needs to take a huge step or it will be running in the same place over time.

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Quote from: klidex on December 03, 2023, 12:12:28 AM

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It really annoying seeing how staggering Manchester United who were at their best during the Era of Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United is doing righ now and it has become a decade of unresolved problem. The formula and tactics of Manchester United under Eric Ten Hag is not yielding any positive result and is high time the club should act and try to give another manager the opportunity to try to see if things will be put in order at United. Very annoying seeing that Man United is at the bottom of a group where Galatasaray and Copenhagen are group contenders.

M.United management insists on Eric Ten Hag. They should definitely fire this guy, he has no success in this team.
I wonder what the M.United management thinks this man is hurting this team day by day.

Erik Ten Hag is doing Machester United more harm than good. Soon it will be clear that Manchester United will no longer progress under his management, and then Erik Ten Hag will be sacked. Manchester United should replace Erik Ten Hag with another coach before it is too late.

Replacing Erik Ten Hag this season seems a little too late because Manchester United can no longer fight for the last 16 in the Champions League because there is 1 rather tough match remaining.
Manchester United management ought replace coach Erik Ten Hag in 1/3 when Manchester United experienced consecutive defeats in the Champions League where Manchester United could not get full points against Copenhagen and Galatasaray so Manchester United could still fight for the remaining matches to compete for 2nd place in Group A the UCL.

However, if in the domestic league it is not too late because in the EPL there are still many matches remaining and Manchester United can still fight for the top 3 positions so that next season Manchester United can get another Champions League ticket and try to be better than this season, then Manchester United management must do it. move quickly to think about the future fate of Manchester United.

Its really depressing how Manchester United has performed in the Champions League this year. It is evident from seeing them play that they are not on the same level as teams like Bayern Munich. Their defense has several holes in it, much like Swiss cheese. The initial cause for concern was the team's incapacity to earn points against opponents such as Copenhagen and Galatasaray. They seem to be caught in a never-ending cycle of subpar work.

With all due respect, Erik Ten Hag has failed to turn things around. I had anticipated significant improvements given the money spent, yet things have continued much as before. I think United needs a change, and the management needs to be the first to go. Yes, there is still hope for the EPL, but I worry that we will only witness more of the same depressing outcomes if they do not take quick action.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on December 03, 2023, 03:31:19 AM

Manchester United looks like it will fail and not be able to get through the group phase, this is of course very embarrassing because if we look at the contestants in group A it should be Manchester United who accompany Bayern Munich to qualify for the knockout round but the results that have been achieved are the opposite, of course this is very help their disappointed fans. If United really fail then Erik Ten Hag should be fired immediately because he has failed miserably in managing the team well. Apart from that, the man from the Netherlands should not look for excuses because the owner of the Red Devils has spent quite a lot of money to buy players.

It's obvious it will only take a miracle to get Manchester united pass the group stage in the champions league and I don't think such is going to happen because the team continually experience decline I'm their performance by every passing match, Erik ten hag should be fired.

Yesterday in the premier league where Manchester united played against Newcastle united, their performance was so poor that I don't think they will get a chance with Galatasaray in the champions league with such performance, and going by the impression seen yesterday it was obvious something isn't right with the team but it's yet to be made known to the media nevertheless the attitude of the entire team showed something isn't right and the Coach should me most responsible in that regards.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 03, 2023, 01:46:08 AM

However, this is the last chance for Porto and Shakhtar to qualify for the last 16 and indeed only one of them was chosen to accompany Barcelona. It will certainly not be easy for Shakhtar to fight for opportunities in the away match to Porto headquarters and the fans will definitely put all the pressure on Shakhtar's players so that they feel frustrated.

Betting on Porto makes the most sense but I wouldn't do that because Shakhtar also have the same chance of winning. So if we place a bet on this match, of course the safe and easy option is BTTS (Yes) or the result over 2.5 because there will definitely be lots of goals scored. At least there will be more than 3 goals and a narrow win like 2-3 or 3-2 for one of the teams is also still a possibility.

As I understand it, in order for Shakhtar to qualify, they need to win with a goal difference of at least +3. This seems extremely unlikely, which is why the chance of them qualifying is estimated at 5.88.
Hmm... although Shakhtar's chances of winning with a handicap of -2 goals are estimated at 40. Why is there such a difference - it shouldn’t exist because these are equivalent events? Huh

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Quote from: Distraction on December 03, 2023, 03:42:49 AM

I don't expect Erik ten Hag to get sacked in case of saying goodbye to the Champions League in the group stage already. The board would give him more time for the sake of the Premier League. However if things still continue to go badly there also then he might not be able to see the end of the season there.

Manchester United are going to have a really difficult match against Bayern Munich home in the last fixture here.

Bayern Munich have already guaranteed advancing as the leader. We saw how Copenhagen got a point from them in Allianz Arena as well.

Manchester United can also defeat Bayern Munich home if they play decently.

Yes, I agree with you that Erik Ten Hag will not get sacked because he failed to qualify for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I believe he will get sacked if, after the January transfer window, Manchester United does not play a competitive football that will make them to book a spot in the Premier League top four.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on December 03, 2023, 04:07:54 AM

Quote from: Distraction on December 03, 2023, 03:42:49 AM

I don't expect Erik ten Hag to get sacked in case of saying goodbye to the Champions League in the group stage already. The board would give him more time for the sake of the Premier League. However if things still continue to go badly there also then he might not be able to see the end of the season there.

Manchester United are going to have a really difficult match against Bayern Munich home in the last fixture here.

Bayern Munich have already guaranteed advancing as the leader. We saw how Copenhagen got a point from them in Allianz Arena as well.

Manchester United can also defeat Bayern Munich home if they play decently.

There is a chance for Manchester United precisely because Bayern has already secured a place in the playoffs, otherwise I would say that with the current form, Manchester United have no chance. But even in this case, I assume that Bayern will not give it up so easily, although there is no point in Tuchel bringing the main squad to Old Trafford, it is better to give the main players a rest. And even if Manchester United can win, not everything will depend on them, they will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to play in a draw.

However, I see that there is prestige between two big clubs at stake, Bayern will definitely try to avoid defeat and will not make Manchester United happy. In fact, I think with United latest situation after being beaten by Newcastle, efforts to secure 3 points at Old Trafford are becoming increasingly thin, because after all beating Newcastle should be easier than beating Bayern later. It makes sense, I think, but we'll see how United journey in the UCL ends this time.

Personally, I think the Ten Hag squad chances of qualifying are closed, not a good idea expecting the Copenhagen versus Galatasaray match to end in a draw. It could be that even Galatasaray has the chance to fail because Copenhagen will act as hosts. If Copenhagen advances to accompany Bayern, then what a surprise, they will succeed in breaking all we predictions so far.

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After losing against Barcelona, this made Porto have to fight even harder until the final round before they could ensure they qualified for the round of 16. However, their opponents in the remaining matches are Shakhtar, who also have 9 points. In the first round, Porto managed to beat Shakhtar with a score of 1-3 and they did it while away to Shakhtar's headquarters. This time it's Porto's turn to host Shakhtar and it looks like Porto's advantage will multiply because they get direct support from fans. I feel this will be an all-out match between the two teams and whoever loses will be eliminated and have to go down to the European league.

Yes indeed and at least, Porto also has an unbeaten head to head record when Porto plays against Shakhtar in the Champion League. Moreover, at this moment also at least Porto is still the favorite team to win based on the current odds. With factors like that, on paper Porto should be able to beat Shakhtar in the last match of this group stage. But even so, because Porto and Shakhtar have the same points with 9 points, then of course Shakhtar will also try even better to be able to win in this match. Because anyway, if for example this match ends with a draw score, then of course Porto will still qualify because Porto wins aggressiveness of goals.

However, this is the last chance for Porto and Shakhtar to qualify for the last 16 and indeed only one of them was chosen to accompany Barcelona. It will certainly not be easy for Shakhtar to fight for opportunities in the away match to Porto headquarters and the fans will definitely put all the pressure on Shakhtar's players so that they feel frustrated.

Betting on Porto makes the most sense but I wouldn't do that because Shakhtar also have the same chance of winning. So if we place a bet on this match, of course the safe and easy option is BTTS (Yes) or the result over 2.5 because there will definitely be lots of goals scored. At least there will be more than 3 goals and a narrow win like 2-3 or 3-2 for one of the teams is also still a possibility.

Even now it can be said that this match is important for Porto and Shakhtar but when it comes to probabilities at the moment Porto is much more favorite.
The current situation that occurs is that Porto is most likely the one who qualifies for the next round.
Some conditions can strengthen this such as those who play home and with full support of fans, besides that the first leg at Shakhtar also it can be used as a reference in this match.
Although this will still be a
very difficult to predict but I think the biggest chance is still in Porto now.

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I am looking forward to see how Real Madrid succeeds in making the transition especially in their midfield. Bellingham was a present from heaven for them because he is filling so many gaps that Real Madrid feared could become a problem for them. But now he partially solves the striker problem, also adds strength to the midfield and also takes on responsibility for some tasks in the defense. I guess there is nothing else you can ask a player to do for the team. But Kroos will also be gone in the near future and his passing was one of the best I have ever seen in football. The accuracy is from a different planet and it still impresses me how calm he is with the ball.

Real Madrid has succeeded in building their future midfielders. We can see there are many young midfielders in Real Madrid squad. Bellingham is one of the most shining young midfielder of Real Madrid, he already contributed very well since his arrival in Real Madrid. But I think Bellingham doesn't fix the problem of striker problem totally, he is just a temporary solution. Bellingham position is still an attacking midfielder, he doesn't change to be a real striker. I sometimes feel worried about how long Bellingham can be productive in scoring goals. I realize he often gets difficulty to score goals in big matches, specifically when they play against the teams with strong defense. So, Real Madrid is still in urgent to sign a pure striker, Mbappe should be the real solution.

Yes, Kroos is one of the best midfielders in football history. When Kroos decides to leave Real Madrid, it will be a very sad moment for Real Madrid fans. Kroos isn't only a midfielder who has great ability in attacking but he is also good in defense. His accuracy in delivering assists is impressive, no one doubts it. We must always remember the trio Casemiro-Kroos-Modric, these legend midfielders of Real Madrid will be unforgettable.

Yet I think that this has opened up a variety of new possibilities for Ancelotti as he himself has probably not expected Bellingham to bring his defensive-offensive role to perfection so quickly. If Bellingham scored half as many goals, everyone would still be impressed by him. But it is absolutely mandatory for Real Madrid for the future to have that position backed up or complemented with one of the best strikers on the market. If Bellingham has ever a long-lasting injury, the subsequent effects on the team could be devastating as he is one of the best allrounders ever.

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Quote from: Distraction on December 03, 2023, 03:42:49 AM

I don't expect Erik ten Hag to get sacked in case of saying goodbye to the Champions League in the group stage already. The board would give him more time for the sake of the Premier League. However if things still continue to go badly there also then he might not be able to see the end of the season there.

Manchester United are going to have a really difficult match against Bayern Munich home in the last fixture here.

Bayern Munich have already guaranteed advancing as the leader. We saw how Copenhagen got a point from them in Allianz Arena as well.

Manchester United can also defeat Bayern Munich home if they play decently.

There is a chance for Manchester United precisely because Bayern has already secured a place in the playoffs, otherwise I would say that with the current form, Manchester United have no chance. But even in this case, I assume that Bayern will not give it up so easily, although there is no point in Tuchel bringing the main squad to Old Trafford, it is better to give the main players a rest. And even if Manchester United can win, not everything will depend on them, they will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to play in a draw.

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