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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 24, 2023, 05:27:33 PM

Napoli is going to play soon against Real Madrid this is going to be definitely a hard match for them to beat a team like Real Madrid. Napoli can hope to earn some points from this match because after the performance they had with Rudi Garcia in this season, Napoli is using another coach and that's a good chance for him to prove himself.

It is not only a difficult match for Napoli players, but Real Madrid players also will feel the same. If we look at the current condition of Real Madrid squad, I think Napoli squad is in much better condition. Real Madrid has too many injured players, there are 7 injured players. Sadly, all the injured players are the key players. Vinicius, Bellingham, Camavinga, Tchouaméni, and Kepa seem to be unavailable for the next match. In my opinion, Napoli will get the advantage with Real Madrid situation. I guess, Napoli will have a higher chance to win the match.

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 24, 2023, 05:27:33 PM

Also, Napoli's CEO, Aurelio De Laurentiis, was usually watched the Napoli game when the team was playing away but because of the meniscus repair surgery, he will be absent.

The absence of Napoli CEO won't bring a significant impact. The CEO won't have a big role to control Napoli game. The coach is the man who will have the biggest role in the match. Since the coach will be among the players, I think the absence of the CEO will bring no impacts.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 24, 2023, 04:25:39 PM

Quote from: rendravolt on November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM

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We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

I would laugh like crazy if Barcelona failed to qualify for the third year in a row, but unfortunately the likelihood of this is low. But there is an equally interesting option: Porto beats Barcelona and takes first place, and Barcelona takes second place and ends up with Bayern in the 1/8 and we are seeing a classic ~~beating~~ confrontation Grin

Man, don't let the Barcelona vs Bayern Munich meeting happen again, it will definitely be very painful for Blaugrana fans. Cheesy

I don't deny that this could happen because considering the possibility that it exists is still a mystery at this time and Barcelona doesn't want to face an opponent who brings back these bad memories. I actually don't want to think negatively about Barcelona and if they fail again and don't qualify from the group stage then they will create a hat trick as a team that has never qualified for 3 consecutive seasons. Well, let's just see what will happen later and surely the surprise will be much more pleasant than the results we have known for a long time.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM

We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

If Barcelona or Porto fail to qualify from the group phase then that would be the most surprising, and I think it is impossible to happen, and in fact if Barcelona and Porto only draw in the last two matches Shakhtar will still be behind on points so I see there will be no surprises in this group, unless Barcelona or Porto play so badly that they suffer two defeats in their last two matches, but the chance of that happening is very small, that's why Group F is still the most difficult group to predict which team will qualify because all four of them still have the same chance, unlike Group H, where even though Shakhtar has a chance, its fate is very much determined by the bad results of the two teams above them.
Indeed, Barcelona's defeat against Shakhtar was very surprising, but Porto will certainly will not follow in Barcelona's footsteps because they will see the match against Shakhtar as the final opportunity to qualify because beating Barcelona is not an easy job.

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We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

Group F is very interesting to talk about because all clubs still have a chance of qualifying, but Group H is no less interesting, but we can see for sure that Antwerp will not qualify for the round of 16 and the European league, but yes, there are still 3 contenders. still has a chance of qualifying for the next round and in the 5th match in the champions league Barcelona will face Porto and Shaktar with Antwerp which is clear that Shaktar will win the match and have 9 points which means these 3 clubs have the same points and if Barcelona loses the match Later, against Porto, Barcelona's chances will be smaller to qualify and to be honest, I'm a little doubtful about Barcelona's current performance because Barcelona's key players are injured so Barcelona can only rely on the remaining players, especially Lewandowski, so I think Porto will have a good chance. in the next match even though they are playing away.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 24, 2023, 06:54:55 PM

I'm expecting same two to three goals when Paris Saint Germans host the visitors Newcastle United. Newcastle cannot even win against Chelsea tommorow and they expect a win against PSG? Thats a very big joke!
Newcastle have got to be the very first team that will be knocked out of Group F. The group of hell now seems predictable as the group stage gets to an end.

Does this mean we have to eliminate Newcastle here? And the chances of qualifying for the next round are between Milan, Dortmound and PSG? I think it's too early to predict Newcastle will lose. Newcastle has much better goal statistics than Chelsea with 27 goals and 13 goals conceded. They still have a chance to qualify for the next round and although I admit it will be very difficult because of the equal strength in each club from group F.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 24, 2023, 12:55:45 PM

Lets see how Newcastle come back from this international break, they are a very good team, the issue they have this last times were they are short on players so they started to feel really tired, and this impact so much in their performance, with this break some players can rest so lets see if they can turn the tide.

You got to see the game from Paris Saint Germans? If you did, you'll see hat they're more than ready for Newcastle United. They stand no chance against Paris Saint Germans. This is a game that Luis Enrique will not gamble or joke about. Kylian Mbappe and Ousman Dembele both scored tonight to help go over the top of the league standing.

I'm expecting same two to three goals when Paris Saint Germans host the visitors Newcastle United. Newcastle cannot even win against Chelsea tommorow and they expect a win against PSG? Thats a very big joke!
Newcastle have got to be the very first team that will be knocked out of Group F. The group of hell now seems predictable as the group stage gets to an end.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on November 24, 2023, 02:57:33 PM

After the first game in this group between PSG and Newcastle, everybody thought they were going to qualify easily because they had a very good performance against PSG who we all know to be one of the biggest teams in Europe.But they later dropped form to the extent of being at the bottom of the table,and everyone is seeing them as the side that will be eliminated from the group stage,while Dortmund that I thought were not going to qualify from that group are currently topping it.It is true that Newcastle's performance dropped rapidly because they haven't been doing well in the premier league too,maybe because they are involved in so many competition,and they use almost thesame players in all those games.However,I don't see them qualifying from this group.

It would seem to me that Newcastle simply does not have the roster depth needed to face both competitions, and it could possibly be a good idea for them to give up on the UCL as their chances to make it to the next round are very low, however this is not going to be easy, as players at that level love to compete and without a doubt the UCL is the best club tournament around the world, and giving up even if the right decision would probably not sit well with the players.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on November 23, 2023, 04:46:37 AM

Newcastle does have the lowest points compared to the other teams in Group F, but I think they still have a chance to qualify for the next round. In the match against PSG, they will indeed play as guests and maybe this will be a tough fight for them considering that so many players are injured but if we look at the results of their first meeting, I think Newcastle still has a chance to win this match.

I never claimed that Newcastle will have no chance. Newcastle still has the chance but it looks like a very small chance. If Newcastle squad is in a good condition, I will no doubt to say Newcastle to have a chance winning the match against PSG away. But the current condition of Newcastle squad looks very unconvincingly, many of their players are injured, especially for the attackers. So, even if Newcastle has quality players, it will be useless if they can't play in the match.

Quote from: Winterfrost on November 23, 2023, 07:39:06 AM

This is will be difficult for Newcastle. A must win is not guaranteed for them. Because their opponent wants to win as well, only with those magical moments in football where the unexpected happens is where we can see Newcastle play in the next UCL round.

Yes, Newcastle must win the next match if they want to keep the dream to qualify for the next round. Sadly, it seems very difficult due to the injury problem. Moreover, it is true that PSG will play all out to secure their position in the top 2 of the table. They won't give the chance for Newcastle to steal any point.

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Quote from: ginsan on November 24, 2023, 04:54:53 PM

PSG is the favorite team to secure victory when they face Newcastle United. On paper the squads of these two teams are very different because PSG has many star players in their team while for Newcastle United they are not in their best form because of defeats in the domestic league and also lost in the Champions League when they faced Dortmund. So their decline in performance will make it difficult for Newcastle United to face PSG. Even though in the first leg Newcastle United was able to beat PSG with a score of 4-1, this second leg will make it quite difficult for Newcastle United to be able to repeat what they did in the first leg.

I think for group F the results of the 5th match this week will make these 4 teams determine their fate to be the best and strengthen them to qualify for the round of 16. PSG and Dortmund are currently quite favorites to qualify for the next round because these two teams have so far been quite strong compared to the opponents they have faced this week.

I think that PSG under the coaching of Luis Enrique they have really united and Mbappe has again found his best form with his contribution through the goals he has scored so far. In the Champions League, PSG has bigger targets under Luis Enrique coaching because PSG has changed coaches in order to win the UCL trophy and this season they have a coach who has impressive experience in the Champions League. So in the match against Newcastle United of course PSG will try their best to beat Newcastle United and also this match will be a revenge match for their defeat in the first leg.

For Luis Enrique he has quite a strong strength in his team and if he fails then he really not be able to utilize the best qualities of his players. The matches in the Champions League are always quite exciting, especially in the group phase because the 4 teams still have a chance so they will play better than what they have shown in the domestic league. PSG also performed impressively in today match where they were able to beat Monaco and that will make them confident enough to be able to take their revenge on Newcastle United.

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Napoli is going to play soon against Real Madrid this is going to be definitely a hard match for them to beat a team like Real Madrid. Napoli can hope to earn some points from this match because after the performance they had with Rudi Garcia in this season, Napoli is using another coach and that's a good chance for him to prove himself.
Also, Napoli's CEO, Aurelio De Laurentiis, was usually watched the Napoli game when the team was playing away but because of the meniscus repair surgery, he will be absent.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 24, 2023, 04:25:39 PM

I would laugh like crazy if Barcelona failed to qualify for the third year in a row, but unfortunately the likelihood of this is low. But there is an equally interesting option: Porto beats Barcelona and takes first place, and Barcelona takes second place and ends up with Bayern in the 1/8 and we are seeing a classic ~~beating~~ confrontation Grin

I will just say you’re big hater of Barcelona because this wishes are too much on them. Imagine having to have them finish group runner up and then the draw comes off as Barca against Bayern Munich, i would just advice Barca then to fogey about the next around after that. But nonetheless the Bayern Munich club are not close to perfection as we have them during Robben and Ribery era, so I doubt if it will be humiliating as before. But the encounter will always be thrilling.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 24, 2023, 03:32:45 PM

PSG's probability is higher than Newcastle in the fifth matchday match. both based on betting odds, and as the home team. apart from that, if we refer to their performance in their respective domestic leagues. In the first meeting, for me it was purely Enrique's mistake when developing his tactics and strategy.
Currently, PSG is playing their match against Monaco and three points is the result they must get. plus, motivating when Paris Saint Germain hosts Newcastle in the fifth matchday meeting of the Champions League group phase.

In fact, this match will be a real challenge for Newcastle as the away team, they will try to go all out to get full points at the Parc des Princess. not an easy match, especially technically and tactically, I think PSG is much better. If Newcastle fails, it means they will be eliminated in this group phase. in the other match in the Group E phase, it will be no less exciting and interesting. Dortmund and AC Milan will both be fighting each other to win in order to determine their chances of progressing to the next phase.

PSG is the favorite team to secure victory when they face Newcastle United. On paper the squads of these two teams are very different because PSG has many star players in their team while for Newcastle United they are not in their best form because of defeats in the domestic league and also lost in the Champions League when they faced Dortmund. So their decline in performance will make it difficult for Newcastle United to face PSG. Even though in the first leg Newcastle United was able to beat PSG with a score of 4-1, this second leg will make it quite difficult for Newcastle United to be able to repeat what they did in the first leg.

I think for group F the results of the 5th match this week will make these 4 teams determine their fate to be the best and strengthen them to qualify for the round of 16. PSG and Dortmund are currently quite favorites to qualify for the next round because these two teams have so far been quite strong compared to the opponents they have faced this week.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on November 23, 2023, 02:39:14 PM

About that Bayern Munich v Copenhagen matchup I wouldn't expect Copenhagen to win to tell the truth. I'm aware of the fact that Bayern Munich have even guaranteed qualifying for next stage as leader of the group.

However I don't expect them to just play badly or very complacently. I would expect some rotation in the lineup depending on their general fixture though. But it is still going to be played in Germany in the end. Bayern Munich wouldn't let 3 points slip through their hands just like that. But Copenhagen would do their best as they are quite a fighter in the group.

Bayern Munich are the type of team that will always collect every point deem fit to be collected even if they have qualified for the next round of the competition. Copenhagen is a fighter but in this match they have no chance to win the game. Football is a very unpredictable game and anything can happen in this match but we can’t give them the full hope of winning this game because Bayern Munich is a stronger and better team than Copenhagen who are still amateurs in this competition without much experience about the game as Bayern Munich. This is not a much anticipated game as that of Manchester United versus Galatasaray which is very hard to decide the winner in that game.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 24, 2023, 03:32:45 PM

PSG's probability is higher than Newcastle in the fifth matchday match. both based on betting odds, and as the home team. apart from that, if we refer to their performance in their respective domestic leagues. In the first meeting, for me it was purely Enrique's mistake when developing his tactics and strategy.
Currently, PSG is playing their match against Monaco and three points is the result they must get. plus, motivating when Paris Saint Germain hosts Newcastle in the fifth matchday meeting of the Champions League group phase.

In fact, this match will be a real challenge for Newcastle as the away team, they will try to go all out to get full points at the Parc des Princess. not an easy match, especially technically and tactically, I think PSG is much better. If Newcastle fails, it means they will be eliminated in this group phase. in the other match in the Group E phase, it will be no less exciting and interesting. Dortmund and AC Milan will both be fighting each other to win in order to determine their chances of progressing to the next phase.

That is something that is very natural to happen because after all, looking at the probabilities, PSG is definitely the favourite club again because they have slightly better players and now they are playing at home which of course this can add to their enthusiasm anyway.
It's just that in this match I expect something different again in terms of results because I expect Newcastle to win again like the match in their first leg.
This is indeed a very difficult mission but there is nothing wrong with Newcastle playing all out in this match because this is a life and death match for them because if they lose this match then the opportunity to qualify in their debut for the Champions League could disappear in the 5th match of the Champions League group phase this time.

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New castle still have a slim chance in the group F just like every other team in the group does, of which if they are brilliant with their performance in their next game, they could possibly win and get a chance to be at the second position in their group and make it pass group stage

PSG is currently facing another team in the Ligue 1 which I think will stress them a little as it's already playing out, this could be an advantage for Newcastle because they will be coming back from their break with all strength and their first encounter will be against PSG although they have some injuries but then they can possibly bet something good out of this match if their performance is really brilliant enough.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM

We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

I would laugh like crazy if Barcelona failed to qualify for the third year in a row, but unfortunately the likelihood of this is low. But there is an equally interesting option: Porto beats Barcelona and takes first place, and Barcelona takes second place and ends up with Bayern in the 1/8 and we are seeing a classic ~~beating~~ confrontation Grin

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Quote from: fzkto on November 23, 2023, 04:21:39 PM

Milan played very well against PSG in their last game and managed to pick up three points. If they beat Dortmund in the next game, they will have a chance to get out of the group. In general, their Group F is the most unpredictable of all the others.

Yep. In the last match, AC Milan won against PSG. The goals were made by Giroud and Leao. These players have a big role for the productivity of AC Milan goals. As long as those players can play in the match against Dortmund, I think there is a chance to win and get 3 points. But if Leao still can't recover before the match, I'm a bit doubtful about the chance of AC Milan to beat Dortmund. Without Leao, AC Milan front line seems not very convincing. I only bet a draw result if Leao will be absent for the match.

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Despite the fact that Milan has a lot of injury worries I still don't think Dortmund has the upper hand in this game because Milan still have very good players to fill in the vacant positions and defensively Milan is far better than Dortmund, though Dortmund have fantastic attacking players upfront but I still think the Milan defence can handle that and I also trust Milan's coach to engage some tactical expertise to be able to contain the German side.

Actually, the injury problem in AC Milan is mostly experienced by the defenders. There are 4 injured defenders but it won't be a serious because there are enough defenders for the upcoming match. AC Milan still has Fikayo Tomori, Simon Kjaer, Malick Thiaw, Theo Hernández, and Alessandro Florenzi. These players will be strong enough to put on the defense line of AC Milan against Dortmund. Davide Calabria is also likely to recover before the match. So, there will be no serious problem for AC Milan.

Dortmund also have some injured players. The worse thing that their main goalkeeper is injured and there is no exact time for the recovery. So, in the upcoming match, Dortmund seems to play without their main goalkeeper. It will be a big lose for Dortmund because the substituted goalkeepers have bad quality. Although Dortmund has fantastic attackers, it will be useless if they have weak defense.

Milan played very well against PSG in their last game and managed to pick up three points. If they beat Dortmund in the next game, they will have a chance to get out of the group. In general, their Group F is the most unpredictable of all the others.

I think Borussia Dortmund have the best chance of getting out of the group now, obviously. Milan can reach the 1/8 finals if they win both matches, otherwise their exit from the group will be debatable and everything will be decided in the last match. I also think that Newcastle can beat PSG quite easily

Just because Dortmund got seven points so far in group F of the Chmapniso League, we can't say the performance of Dortmund was amazing so far. Dortmund is the team that usually has unstable performance and sure compared to a team like PSG in this group, they don't have famous superstar players yet. I think PSG is the first team in this group and then between Dortmund and AC Milan, I choose AC Milan for the second team.

It's hard to compare Dortmund and PSG, because PSG have no opponents in Ligue 1, while the latter have at least Bayern. In the Champions League Borussia shows itself I think well and I think that they will be able to reach the 1/8, although everything will depend on the last two matches. But even from the second place is very good

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Quote from: un_rank on November 24, 2023, 01:14:27 PM

Looking forward to the clash at the Parc de Princes between PSG and Newcastle.
The PSG fans will definitely be coming in with a lot of energy to spur the team to success and will have at the back of their mind the experience their team went through at the away fixture.

Both teams are playing tough matches this weekend, against Monaco and Chelsea and will have to commit energy to that before refocusing to the Champions league, PSG have the benefit of playing a day earlier, we will see if that plays a role in Tuesday's fixture.

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PSG's probability is higher than Newcastle in the fifth matchday match. both based on betting odds, and as the home team. apart from that, if we refer to their performance in their respective domestic leagues. In the first meeting, for me it was purely Enrique's mistake when developing his tactics and strategy.
Currently, PSG is playing their match against Monaco and three points is the result they must get. plus, motivating when Paris Saint Germain hosts Newcastle in the fifth matchday meeting of the Champions League group phase.

In fact, this match will be a real challenge for Newcastle as the away team, they will try to go all out to get full points at the Parc des Princess. not an easy match, especially technically and tactically, I think PSG is much better. If Newcastle fails, it means they will be eliminated in this group phase. in the other match in the Group E phase, it will be no less exciting and interesting. Dortmund and AC Milan will both be fighting each other to win in order to determine their chances of progressing to the next phase.

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Group F has been helling from the very first week the Champions League resumed, No one has confidently predicted the outcome of who win and goes ahead of the rest clubs in that group. Some of the groups are also lively, the group with Barcelona and Arsenal.
The return of Arsenal has not gone as planned, they are gradually facing every game as they come, a win will verify Arsenal involving in the next stage.

Newcastle will have to win twice games to qualify otherwise they will be out of the tournament, Same for Ac Milan. They want to save the job of their coach? Then qualification is important. Consistency will take Psg and Dortmund higher.

You are right group F is one of the toughest group on this champions League unlike other minor group that is comprises of clubs that are not much strong, but however just like you said this group F can hardly be predicted because all the club are almost equal in times of performance but the only difference there is that Borussia Dortmund and PSG are more experienced club in times of playing champions League because they have a lot of history on champions League while Newcastle United mostly performed only on premier league match so champions League seem to be a bit difficult for them.

However Newcastle United seem more to be on a losing side of there group because for them to qualify they need to win there two straight matches and considering that the other clubs seem more experienced than them it will surely make there chances of qualifying very difficult or impossible for them.

After the first game in this group between PSG and Newcastle, everybody thought they were going to qualify easily because they had a very good performance against PSG who we all know to be one of the biggest teams in Europe.But they later dropped form to the extent of being at the bottom of the table,and everyone is seeing them as the side that will be eliminated from the group stage,while Dortmund that I thought were not going to qualify from that group are currently topping it.It is true that Newcastle's performance dropped rapidly because they haven't been doing well in the premier league too,maybe because they are involved in so many competition,and they use almost thesame players in all those games.However,I don't see them qualifying from this group.

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