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Quote from: Awaklara on November 23, 2023, 10:40:51 AM

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In case of wins for AC Milan and PSG in this round we will have just three teams for the qualification and Newcastle United will be having exit from Champions League, but doors could be open for them to jump into UEFA Europa League.

the situation in group F was indeed the most tense. The results for this group will depend on the last two matches, each team certainly doesn't want to make mistakes and is working hard for a direct ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League.
Dortmund is currently at the top of the other teams. but the situation could change if they lose the remaining matches. the situation in group F is very difficult to predict. because all teams clearly don't want to lose in the race for places.

Nothing can really be predicted with certainty in this group because in Group F, every team at least has a chance to qualify. Although ya, of course there will always be a difference but unfortunately, the difference in chances for those in this group is not significant. Therefore, even though Dortmund is currently at the top of the standings but ya, in reality Dortmund still cannot be sure of qualifying for the round of 16. So yes, in essence this group is a difficult group because every team has a good effort too, of course to be able to finish in the top three.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM

We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

Thus, Shakhtar have had greater luck in their last two matches, of course, as you mentioned, Barcelona and Porto must be fully alert. Barcelona and Porto will face each other on matchday 5. If the two draw, Shakhtar will be very fortunate to narrow the points gap. I was quite surprised by the previous defeat of Xavi's squad, perhaps many of us lost their bets in that match, and their progress in qualifying for the round of 16 was delayed.

Barcelona, Porto and Shakhtar have made Antwerp their point barn, and even the remaining two matches in the future will be exploited again to smooth the steps of the three clubs. However, it could be that Antwerp becomes a stumbling block because it is too underestimated, and will make Shakhtar and Barcelona cry a little, because at UCL surprises often occur and are difficult to understand.

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Quote from: Awaklara on November 23, 2023, 10:40:51 AM

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In case of wins for AC Milan and PSG in this round we will have just three teams for the qualification and Newcastle United will be having exit from Champions League, but doors could be open for them to jump into UEFA Europa League.

the situation in group F was indeed the most tense. The results for this group will depend on the last two matches, each team certainly doesn't want to make mistakes and is working hard for a direct ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League.
Dortmund is currently at the top of the other teams. but the situation could change if they lose the remaining matches. the situation in group F is very difficult to predict. because all teams clearly don't want to lose in the race for places.

Group F is a group that is difficult to predict, and I consider this group to be the hell group because these four teams are great teams that have the same quality and squad.
And with each team still having the chance to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League, the remaining two matches in Group F will be very crucial to win and the remaining two matches will be very exciting and tense matches. And it is guaranteed that they will play very carefully and will also strengthen their defense because every team has the opportunity to score goals.

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For me the best groups to see are gonna be the group A, to see if Manchester United can recover in Istanbul or if they go to Europa League, Group B can be interesting , sevilla plays his last coin, and if they win the last round can be fire.

And group E and F, are gonna be very good to see also.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 23, 2023, 07:22:36 AM

In general, I'm also surprised that they are in last place, but this is a common situation for underdogs - sometimes they can soar much higher than average, and sometimes they can fall just as much. If they didn’t have such volatility, they would be almost top clubs. However, they still have the opportunity to bypass Salzburg and get into the Europa League.

There is no doubt about this Benfica is the biggest shocking team in this season but overall we have no good performance from the other two Portugal teams as well with just Porto having some chances for going into round of the 16 Braga is also having not good performance as they are going to host Union Berlin which is at the bottom, but this win can bring them near to jump with last game is against Napoli in Italy.

Porto is having some advantage as they will visit Barcelona for the next game, and then they have at home against Shakhtar which is also going to have 3 points which will bring them to level with Porto and last game could be final for the both winner will in round of 16 and loser will be in Europa Cup with most chances Porto can go through.

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We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

Anything can still happen, both Barcelona and Porto need to maximize in their last 2 matches, or at least win 1 more match to ensure they are in the last 16 and qualify from this group.
Shakthar is really worrying for the two clubs above them, because once I 2 clubs make a mistake, then they will be punished by Shaktar. They must be really focused if they want 1 ticket in their hands.
With this kind of competition, it's very interesting for me and I'm looking forward to their last 2 matches. Will there be any surprises?

Group H seem like an open group to me seeing FC Porto and FC Barcelona on same points and the shakthar in third place makes it even more interesting, all eyes are going to be on this group and I also suspect that between Barcelona and Porto one might loose their chance of qualifying if either of them drops point in their last two games in the champions league group stage.

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Quote from: Awaklara on November 23, 2023, 10:40:51 AM

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In case of wins for AC Milan and PSG in this round we will have just three teams for the qualification and Newcastle United will be having exit from Champions League, but doors could be open for them to jump into UEFA Europa League.

the situation in group F was indeed the most tense. The results for this group will depend on the last two matches, each team certainly doesn't want to make mistakes and is working hard for a direct ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League.
Dortmund is currently at the top of the other teams. but the situation could change if they lose the remaining matches. the situation in group F is very difficult to predict. because all teams clearly don't want to lose in the race for places.

In the remaining two matches, the four clubs have the ambition to beat each other, regardless of the situation each of them is facing in domestic competition. Each club chances of qualifying for the round of 16 depend on each other, which makes it difficult to predict the final result of this Group F match. Their previous matches can no longer be used as a full benchmark, because the international break has created a different feel for all clubs.

Apart from that, betting on Group F participant matches is also very risky, and it is also necessary to avoid betting on clubs that are guaranteed to qualify. However, what would be most painful would be if PSG failed to progress to the next stage, because they have such good squad depth, on the other hand, so far Enrique squad has never drawn in the previous four group phase matches. It is indeed correct to say that this group is the hell group for this edition of UCL.

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I never thought that Napoli were favorites for the Champions League. This team played very well last season, and this season their performance is not weak. Still, a stronger squad is needed if they want to win the Champions League title. They lost against Real Madrid in the Champions League group stage match. Napoli shared the points in the home match against Union Berlin. If they perform like this, they will not be able to qualify even for the semi-finals of the Champions League. However, for the Champions League, I consider Bayern Munich, Manchester City and Real Madrid to be the favorites this season. Compared to these teams, Napoli is far behind.

Napoli become really different after Spalletti left and Osimhen is injured, they're going back become a mediocre club. Napoli is nothing more than a lucky club where they can perform really good only for one season.

While Bayern Munich and Real Madrid, both of them always consistent and able to enter quarter finals regardless the result is.

Agreed about this all things are going down badly with change of coach can bring some improvement but still it's not going to enough for having spot into last for their performance in Serie A is also down and in last few games they are suffering badly even their chances are high for the round of 16, but after this nothing is predictable Victor Osimhen is also not good as he was in last season and few more changes are expected in coming transfer window which can give them setback.

We have few teams which are at the top for the title and having spots into last four even still upsets and surprises are expected because these are beauty of the Champions League and without surprises having end of any season is also not entertaining.

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Quote from: Awaklara on November 23, 2023, 10:40:51 AM

Quote from: wiss19 on November 23, 2023, 10:32:58 AM

In case of wins for AC Milan and PSG in this round we will have just three teams for the qualification and Newcastle United will be having exit from Champions League, but doors could be open for them to jump into UEFA Europa League.

the situation in group F was indeed the most tense. The results for this group will depend on the last two matches, each team certainly doesn't want to make mistakes and is working hard for a direct ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League.
Dortmund is currently at the top of the other teams. but the situation could change if they lose the remaining matches. the situation in group F is very difficult to predict. because all teams clearly don't want to lose in the race for places.

In match 5 I think we will at least have a bright spot about who will be able to qualify even though it must be confirmed again until the last match in the group phase to know this but indeed a Hell group like this is definitely an interesting treat because in the end this is what we all expect in the Champions League even in the group phase.

Their probability of qualifying is also still very much there now it's just that for something like that there needs to be action especially to get 3 points in this 5th match because it can make a difference in points that can be profitable only in this 5th match whoever the losing club is then the possibility will be reduced to qualify especially if it is Milan and Newcastle.

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Quote from: wiss19 on November 23, 2023, 10:32:58 AM

In case of wins for AC Milan and PSG in this round we will have just three teams for the qualification and Newcastle United will be having exit from Champions League, but doors could be open for them to jump into UEFA Europa League.

the situation in group F was indeed the most tense. The results for this group will depend on the last two matches, each team certainly doesn't want to make mistakes and is working hard for a direct ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League.
Dortmund is currently at the top of the other teams. but the situation could change if they lose the remaining matches. the situation in group F is very difficult to predict. because all teams clearly don't want to lose in the race for places.

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Every team in Group F has a chance to qualify for the Round of 16. And the team that plays well and wins in the last two matches will qualify for round of 16. In the next match, AC Milan will play against Dortmund, and PSG will play against Newcastle. If Milan and PSG can win their home matches, I'd say both teams will qualify for the round of 16. Because Newcastle and Dortmund teams are not weak but their performance is quite erratic. However, my favorites in Group F are Milan and PSG. Looking forward to see how these two teams perform in their next match.

Yes, all the teams have the chance to win but it seems Newcastle to have very small chance. Newcastle must win all the remaining matches to have a good chance to qualify for the next round. Sadly, there are too many injured players on Newcastle squad, so it is a big obstacle that makes them probably difficult to give their best performance. The upcoming matches surely will be the crucial matches, which teams to win the matches will have bigger chance to qualify for the next round. Since PSG and AC Milan will play at home, I can agree that they are the favorite to win the matches. If both of them win the upcoming matches, no doubt PSG and AC Milan probably qualify for the knock-out round.

After having impressive start of their first campaign in years now suddenly things are going badly down last two defeats bring them to the bottom and now with many issues and injuries they are going to face PSG which is surely not good because this defeat will bring them in more trouble in this campaign and PSG will have advantage for their spot in next round they will have last game against Dortmund in Germany and Newcastle United having their last game against AC Milan at home with both teams are currently at same level injuries and suspension of players creating problem for them.

In case of wins for AC Milan and PSG in this round we will have just three teams for the qualification and Newcastle United will be having exit from Champions League, but doors could be open for them to jump into UEFA Europa League.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 22, 2023, 05:59:18 PM

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Indeed, in group F now the atmosphere is simply tense.
Milan will not have an easy game and perhaps they will be defeated by Borussia and this will be a shift to last position and perhaps they will remain penultimate in the group. A miracle is needed for Milan fans.

Group F is the most competitive group in UCL this season. All the teams in group F are strong teams.
Actually, it is still difficult to predict which team to win in the upcoming matches. I think AC Milan still has a chance to win against Dortmund. Although their performance is decreasing lately and they lost some main players due to injury problem, but they are still a big team. Dortmund also seems to have no their main goalkeeper in the upcoming match because he is injured. So, it is not impossible if AC Milan can defeat Dortmund in the next match. In addition, Rafael Leão is predicted to be available for the match against Dortmund. He is predicted to recover in November, 28. It is a day before the upcoming match.

The problem with this group is that almost all the teams are unpredictable. so you cannot predict how the teams are going to perform on that given day. I did not have much expectations from a few teams in this group. Especially I did not have much hope for Dortmund. But they definitely proved me wrong and are now at the top of the table. So it is definitely unpredictable. Part of it is because the teams are not consistent. In some matches, they do well in but they really shouldn't be,, in the other matches they perform badly when they shouldn’t be.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM

We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

Barcelona will definitely quality, they failed to pay attention and focus on the last game they played against Shakhtar Donetsk, not even equalizing was achieved in that game and that sucked. Most of them fans continued bashing and lashing out at Robert Lewandoski for not being able to help them score goals, but I ask how many of them players create chances for him to score?
Xavi Hernandez needs to communicate sense into some of these young lads, they lack respect when playing with them elders. Why shoot the ball when you have a clear opportunity of passing that will definitely lead to goal. I'm certain they'll come first in that group.

Shakhtar Donetsk are doing well, qualifications to the knock out round can only happen with a miracle. They fail to do so amd they're back in the Europa League Competition.

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Quote from: samuraijin on November 23, 2023, 08:20:52 AM

In my opinion, AC Milan will provide very fierce resistance in the next match, because AC Milan must win if they want to continue to advance to the next round, because this match is a crucial match to determine whether AC Milan passes or not from the group phase, if they lose or not. If you draw, there will be little chance of qualifying, but if you win the match then PSG and Newcastle will definitely not qualify.

Very true AC Milan may be able to strongly resist any attempt to win them because they are playing from home and this match has a lot to do with their chances of qualifying of if they would most likely crash out of the champions league by the end of the group stage games.

Dortmund still have possible chances of been pushed to the second position especially if thy loose to AC Milan in their next fixture, with the point difference amongst every team in the group F of the champions league, it still looks like they all have chances to qualify with their round five game standing in as a very huge determinant for them. Dortmund is a point ahead of PSG and PSG is. Point ahead of AC Milan and AC Milan is a point ahead of Newcastle so they all need a win especially PSG and Dortmund.

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On the contrary Newcastle United has the lowest points on there group which brings them down to the button of their group table because they are four teams on each group and in group F is comprises of Borussia Dortmund which is currently leading on there table while the second one PSG which is in the second position on there group and thirdly AC Milan which is also on there third position on the group then there last is Newcastle United.

I'm actually surprised seeing them on the button of there group because they were really doing well this season including all there leagues they were performing so impressive but I don't no why all of a sudden they began to fail in performance. So perhaps even if they win PSG on there meeting they will not still qualify.

Newcastle had quite an impressive performance last season, and I think this season their performance is not that bad either. It's just that they are currently facing quite a complicated problem, where many of their players are injured and this is what caused their performance to not be optimal. Winning against PSG does not guarantee they can qualify for the next round because they still need one more win against AC Milan. But, a win against PSG will make their chances even better and that should increase their confidence.

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I agree with you that Newcastle United lost three points against Borussia Dortmund both home and away, that is because Newcastle United players lack Uefa Champions League experience. Even though Ac Milan is not in form in the Italy Serie a and dropped points in their last league game, they can still win their match against Borussia Dortmund because the Uefa Champions League has a different spirit of play, and Ac Milan can use home advantage to beat Borussia Dortmund.

We will see at the beginning of the week how AC Milan plays at home against Borussia Dortmund, because AC Milan needs a win to reach the top. Likewise, Newcastle United must be able to win in order to get a safer position in the Champions League even though the opponent Newcastle United will face is PSG. I want to see the four teams compete until the end because it will be quite interesting for Champions League fans, especially since their points are still close enough so any small change will definitely have a very big effect.

In my opinion, AC Milan will provide very fierce resistance in the next match, because AC Milan must win if they want to continue to advance to the next round, because this match is a crucial match to determine whether AC Milan passes or not from the group phase, if they lose or not. If you draw, there will be little chance of qualifying, but if you win the match then PSG and Newcastle will definitely not qualify.

The football fans are being focused into the squad of acmilan. Some players have been confirmed to miss the match against dortmund. This is the most important match for acmilan but that's very bad if leao.

Look at this picture

Leao is still being doubted by the club to play against dortmund. Okafor has become the latest player that was injured. Acmilan will be missing a lot of important players for the big match against dortmund.
Acmilan will be missing a lot of players. It gives lots of advantages for dortmund. Maignan will not able to play too.

Dortmund will able to win against milan easily.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 23, 2023, 07:57:27 AM

We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

Anything can still happen, both Barcelona and Porto need to maximize in their last 2 matches, or at least win 1 more match to ensure they are in the last 16 and qualify from this group.
Shakthar is really worrying for the two clubs above them, because once I 2 clubs make a mistake, then they will be punished by Shaktar. They must be really focused if they want 1 ticket in their hands.
With this kind of competition, it's very interesting for me and I'm looking forward to their last 2 matches. Will there be any surprises?

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 23, 2023, 06:45:22 AM

For group F, the opportunity to see which team will qualify for the knockout round until the sixth match is very wide open, although it will still depend on this fifth match. When PSG can win against Newcastle and Dortmund can beat AC Milan then the sixth match is no longer important other than just to determine who is in first place in the group, but if in the fifth match, the results of both matches are a draw then all teams still have a chance to qualify, but there are other things. is that if PSG wins and AC Milan wins then the sixth match will be more exciting because PSG has the opportunity to be eliminated if they lose to Dortmund because they lose by a point difference to AC Milan, this is really a very tough group compared to other groups where several teams have already managed to advance to the round of 16.

I'm sure all fans will be entertained and looking forward to every match that happens in Group F. No wonder we are eager to see the final result of the Group stage rather than other clubs that are quite predictable. Newcastle who want to repeat their victory will not be made easy by PSG players Enrique must have made an evaluation where the defense is easily penetrated by the opponent counterattack. I don't expect PSG to submit again, playing at home should be a positive point in controlling the field. At least in this important match PSG must be able to provoke the mentality of Newcastle players I mean PSG is quite familiar in the UCL competition so they only need to make the focus of Newcastle players waver. A little hard play doesn't matter if it's needed.

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Quote from: wmaurik on November 23, 2023, 05:36:53 AM

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I agree with you that Newcastle United lost three points against Borussia Dortmund both home and away, that is because Newcastle United players lack Uefa Champions League experience. Even though Ac Milan is not in form in the Italy Serie a and dropped points in their last league game, they can still win their match against Borussia Dortmund because the Uefa Champions League has a different spirit of play, and Ac Milan can use home advantage to beat Borussia Dortmund.

We will see at the beginning of the week how AC Milan plays at home against Borussia Dortmund, because AC Milan needs a win to reach the top. Likewise, Newcastle United must be able to win in order to get a safer position in the Champions League even though the opponent Newcastle United will face is PSG. I want to see the four teams compete until the end because it will be quite interesting for Champions League fans, especially since their points are still close enough so any small change will definitely have a very big effect.

In my opinion, AC Milan will provide very fierce resistance in the next match, because AC Milan must win if they want to continue to advance to the next round, because this match is a crucial match to determine whether AC Milan passes or not from the group phase, if they lose or not. If you draw, there will be little chance of qualifying, but if you win the match then PSG and Newcastle will definitely not qualify.

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We are too busy talking about group F and forget that group H is also an interesting group. As we know, Barcelona lost against Shakhtar and that also dashed Barcelona's hopes of qualifying for the round of 16 early. Now Barcelona and Porto have the same 9 points and this will be an exciting competition considering that anyone can win the group with two matches remaining.

However, that's actually not the main point, but Shakhtar, who currently has 6 points, could shift one of the places at the top of Group H because they will play Antwerp (who obviously didn't qualify) and they will definitely get 3 additional points. After that Shakstar will play Porto in the last match and if they do well then Shakstar will collect 12 points. Barcelona and Porto must be careful if they don't want to lose their current place. Wink

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