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Quote from: twiki on November 04, 2023, 08:38:18 AM

I guess the favorite will be Galatasaray!
They are now showing a truly beautiful game more than ever. No matter what, they go to the front. look at the game against Bayern. Didn't Galatasaray show skill! This is the same club that deserves the best. It has a perfect balance of defense and incredible attack! that's why they're doing so well! If I'm wrong, correct me!

We will see in the next match at the Allianz Arena, whether Galatasaray is able to beat Bayern Munich to strengthen its position in second place in the standings, because if Galatasaray loses and Manchester United is able to win at home to Copenhagen, it will create greater pressure on Galatasaray's side because Manchester United also still has a chance to qualify if they are able to win the three remaining matches in the Champions League group phase.

Personally, I would bet on Bayern Munich winning this match. Playing at home to Bayern Munich certainly makes it difficult for Galatasaray to win this match. Indeed, Galatasaray should not be underestimated because they also have star players, but I think the Allianz Arena is still haunted by every opponent. Moreover, Bayern Munich has the ambition to win all the matches in the group phase in order to increase their confidence as serious competitors in the UCL league this season. Apart from that, they also want to become group champions to avoid strong teams.

Yes, Man United's chances are actually still wide open if they can beat Copenhagen and move Galatasaray to second place. Even though it is not stable at the moment, in the next match they will win again with the capital they have beaten Fulham in the EPL. Slowly Man United will rise.

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Quote from: twiki on November 04, 2023, 08:38:18 AM

I guess the favorite will be Galatasaray!
They are now showing a truly beautiful game more than ever. No matter what, they go to the front. look at the game against Bayern. Didn't Galatasaray show skill! This is the same club that deserves the best. It has a perfect balance of defense and incredible attack! that's why they're doing so well! If I'm wrong, correct me!

We will see in the next match at the Allianz Arena, whether Galatasaray is able to beat Bayern Munich to strengthen its position in second place in the standings, because if Galatasaray loses and Manchester United is able to win at home to Copenhagen, it will create greater pressure on Galatasaray's side because Manchester United also still has a chance to qualify if they are able to win the three remaining matches in the Champions League group phase.

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But considering Benfica's previous achievement of being able to reach the quarter finals, they should be able to achieve the same thing this season. However, it seems that it is not going smoothly enough and they are having a very difficult time with Real Sociedad and Inter as strong candidates for teams to qualify for the group phase. For Salzburg, I actually don't see this team as more than an ordinary team when they are in the Champions League competition, but at least they can still get points compared to Benfica. So even though both are teams in the farmers' league, it is clear that Salzburg is still slightly better than Benfica.

There is always something different every season and this time what is different is that Benfica did not perform as well as last season, of course there were problems in their team so that happened where out of three matches they did not produce a single point and I agree with you that Benfica is the team that will be the most difficult to win. can qualify from the group phase, or we can say that their chances are closed because in this group if Inter Milan and Real Sociedad each win just one win, it is enough to make them qualify from the group phase to play in the round of 16.
And in the fourth match against Real Sociedad, Benfica will face difficulty getting points because when they host Sociedad they lose, especially when playing at Sociedad's home ground.

No chance for benfica. This club will not also qualify for the europa league as it will stay at the bottom place. Benfica got three losses in a row which mean it has zero points while the first and second position of its group have 7 points. If these clubs will able to win 1 more matches and i think that it's impossible for benfica to go up. The club must admit that if it will not able to pass the group stage this season. Benfica must also accept the fact that if its club was not performing so well. Intermilan and sociedad are equal at this moment.
It's likely that if this will not happen. The winners from the first and second place can be determine. Intermilan and benfica will be passing to the knock out stage.

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Quote from: Bobrox on November 04, 2023, 09:22:35 AM

Talking about favorite teams for winning Champion League actually Manchester City is the first number and allow by Real Madrid then Bayern Munich, for Barcelona I don't really optimistic for winning Champion League tittle.

If we are just speculating, the strongest candidate for us should be a club that has very reliable star players and is proud of everyone, such as Manchester City has Haaland, then Real Madrid has Bellingham and Bayern Munich has Harry Kane.
Even though Barcelona also has superior players like Lewandowski, for me it is not enough to just rely on 1 player like other big clubs which have full support from other reliable players so I have the same speculation as you that it seems like Barca will find it a little difficult to win the Champions League title this season this is because after losing Messi Barca will not be as strong as before.

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There are still three matches remaining in the group phase of the Champions League to see who will progress to the next round and Manchester United must really think about this seriously. Because they have to try to get through the group stage first so they can progress to the next round further, although I also don't think that Manchester United will go too far in the Champions League this season even though you yourself have said that the Manchester United coach has found a way to train the players to be better.

Manchester United certainly still has the possibility of qualifying for the last 16, but I'm not sure Ten Hag can take advantage of it even though I don't fully expect them to fail. If Manchester United can win 2 of the remaining 3 matches, then I believe they can qualify for the round of 16 compared to Galatasaray and Copenhagen. Anything is possible right now, but it all depends on how Ten Hag and his players set their goals.

I hope Ten Hag can beat Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next 2 matches because I think these two matches will determine their chances of qualifying the most. Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich, although they can, the chances are no better than winning the matches against Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Let's focus on Copenhagen next up, if they can get a good game and win the game against Copenhagen then they will do same against Galatasaray. They just had a narrow win against Fulham with the help of Bruno Fernandez.
Copenhagen really schooled Manchester United during the last game, I won't want that to repeat itself in the next few days.

As much as they keep on fighting and working together, there is always hope for them. Bruno Fernandez amdthe rest of Manchester United player's have just given peace of mind to Erik Ten Hag.
He can no sleep well and prepare for Copenhagen.

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Quote from: twiki on November 04, 2023, 08:02:59 AM

Manchester United controlled the ball, but unfortunately did not make a single shot on target at Fulham.
from the beginning of the game there was a goal scored, but alas, after looking at the VAR, the goal was canceled because it was offside.
But as before, the Red Devils did not keep track of their shots against Fulhep. it's all just sad. Let's hope that something will change in the second half.

This could affect the state of the game in the Champions League

There was one shot on target by a Man United player in the first half and one goal was disallowed by the referee because Maguire was deemed to have commit interference that results in offside before the goal. In the second half there were also several opportunities to score goals but again because they were too selfish they ultimately failed to score. On the other hand Fulham tried to put pressure on Man United in the 60th minute and they didn't stop attacking Man United's defense, but they were still lucky that Onana was able to make good saves on several occasions.

Initially I predicted that Man United would win the match with two goals, but in fact they had difficulty finding opportunities because there were many mistakes made by the front players and midfielders. Bruno Fernandez managed to take advantage of the chaos in front of the goal to score the winning goal. If Man United play like this in the Champions League then I would doubt they would qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: marcous on November 04, 2023, 04:53:05 AM

I think Barcelona also deserves to be favorite along with Man City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munchen. It's not without reason that i say this, we can see that currently Xavi squad has wiped out three matches with a win and is at the top of the group standings with 9 points. If we look more closely, City has lost twice in the EPL, namely at the hands of Wolves and Arsenal, Munchen was beaten yesterday by a third division team in the DFB Pokal. Madrid has also been beaten by ATM and Barcelona also lost in the El Clasico match. So i think each favorite club has a negative record at their respective domestic levels.

Barcelona have good opportunity this season their participants in UEFA Champion League, not in the difficult group stage teams and they have won 3 of 3 matches just need one match left for qualifying to next round. Current 3rd team standings Shakhtar Donetsk have three points and good opportunity for Barcelona in the first time after last two season failed reach to knock out round. Next match, Shakhtar Donetsk vs Barcelona and moment for Xavi Hernandez penetrate his failure last two season when Barcelona have eliminating to UEFA Europe League.

Talking about favorite teams for winning Champion League actually Manchester City is the first number and allow by Real Madrid then Bayern Munich, for Barcelona I don't really optimistic for winning Champion League tittle.

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Quote from: bangjoe on November 02, 2023, 06:58:46 PM

They still have a long way to go to be in the knockout stages. I didn't imagine Mamchester United would be in such a difficult situation, because at the beginning I thought Bayern Munich and Manchester United were the top favorites in this group, and that all changed when they lost to Galatasaray in the first leg.
A win is a must for Manchester United in the 3 games they have to play, it will determine whether they will qualify or not to the next round. Galatasaray have the upper hand now, with the situation they are in now, of course Galatasaray have the advantage.

I guess the favorite will be Galatasaray!
They are now showing a truly beautiful game more than ever. No matter what, they go to the front. look at the game against Bayern. Didn't Galatasaray show skill! This is the same club that deserves the best. It has a perfect balance of defense and incredible attack! that's why they're doing so well! If I'm wrong, correct me!

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Quote from: bitLeap on November 04, 2023, 01:58:01 AM

If the two teams that are now in first and second place in the standings (Inter Milan and Real Sociedad) collect 3 more points, then it will erase the hopes of Benfica. As for Salzburg, although they still have hope, but they still have to hope that one of Inter Milan or Real Sociedad loses in their last 3 matches and instead Salzburg must win all the remaining matches. With a scenario like that, it is something that is very difficult to realize, especially the two teams above will also always aim for good results in every match they do to ensure themselves that they will qualify from this group phase.

I don't think Benfica still have any chance because the two teams above are not going to loose any match again they may draw buy they will be very careful to not loosing because they are aware how much it could cost them, and benfica have no point currently.

Even if they win any match they still don't have any chance because it will require them to win four matches to be ahead of any of the too teams, Salzburg have a conditional slim chance and that is if either of inter Milan or Real socidad loose two out of their next three matches which is almost not possible, they wouldn't let such happen because they definitely wouldn't want to loose they chance of qualifying after having seven points earlier.

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Is anyone watching Manchester United vs Fulham right now?

Manchester United controlled the ball, but unfortunately did not make a single shot on target at Fulham.
from the beginning of the game there was a goal scored, but alas, after looking at the VAR, the goal was canceled because it was offside.
But as before, the Red Devils did not keep track of their shots against Fulhep. it's all just sad. Let's hope that something will change in the second half.

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There is an opportunity for Manchester United if he won his last two matches and at the same time Galatasaray suffered just one defeat it could push Manchester United to the second position to continue to the knockout.

Yes. Man United should try to win all the remaining matches. And they expect that Bayern Munich defeats Galatasaray again. The most difficult thing that Man United also has a match against Bayern Munich in the final match of the group stage.

If you look at the strength of the teams in Group A with 3 matches remaining. So United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are very difficult. For example, let's say Muechen manages to beat United and Galatasaray, the points are still the same. Then United and Galatasaray managed to beat Coppenhagen. Finally, the deciding match is United vs Galatasaray. If Galatasaray wins or draws, they will qualify. On the other hand, United must use all their strength to win the match against Galatasaray. I think this is the option that comes to mind.

They still have a long way to go to be in the knockout stages. I didn't imagine Mamchester United would be in such a difficult situation, because at the beginning I thought Bayern Munich and Manchester United were the top favorites in this group, and that all changed when they lost to Galatasaray in the first leg.
A win is a must for Manchester United in the 3 games they have to play, it will determine whether they will qualify or not to the next round. Galatasaray have the upper hand now, with the situation they are in now, of course Galatasaray have the advantage.

there is no other way than to accept Man United current ugliness, even though they failed in the UCL, there will be an opportunity in the european league and there, if Ten Hag fails again to get the title, he will definitely lose a lot of fans and on the one hand, competition in the european league will also be difficult because there are several other strong teams such as Liverpool and Leverkusen are very strong in the European league.

last hope to give Man United a chance when the transfer market opens again must be to get lots of players to improve Man United performance and if that effort still fails, it looks like we will have to say goodbye to Ten Hag who will be fired from Man United.

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Quote from: rendravolt on November 04, 2023, 05:34:05 AM

But considering Benfica's previous achievement of being able to reach the quarter finals, they should be able to achieve the same thing this season. However, it seems that it is not going smoothly enough and they are having a very difficult time with Real Sociedad and Inter as strong candidates for teams to qualify for the group phase. For Salzburg, I actually don't see this team as more than an ordinary team when they are in the Champions League competition, but at least they can still get points compared to Benfica. So even though both are teams in the farmers' league, it is clear that Salzburg is still slightly better than Benfica.

There is always something different every season and this time what is different is that Benfica did not perform as well as last season, of course there were problems in their team so that happened where out of three matches they did not produce a single point and I agree with you that Benfica is the team that will be the most difficult to win. can qualify from the group phase, or we can say that their chances are closed because in this group if Inter Milan and Real Sociedad each win just one win, it is enough to make them qualify from the group phase to play in the round of 16.
And in the fourth match against Real Sociedad, Benfica will face difficulty getting points because when they host Sociedad they lose, especially when playing at Sociedad's home ground.

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Honestly as I said in the post I would like to see Manchester United in this condition when they play against us once again in the Champions League. Grin

I'm a Galatasaray fan and it has been a long time since I saw my team showing a this good performance in this competition. I believe that they have the strength to beat the Manchester club once again.

But when it comes to the EPL I would like to see them finishing the season in a good place in the standings. They don't deserve to be this bad there with a good squad. They are dealing with some injuries too though but this can't be an excuse. Erik ten Hag's future here would be in danger otherwise.

I’m not exactly a Galatasaray fan, but I’ve seen and noticed more than once what they are capable of!
As I mentioned earlier, Galatasaray especially gives their all in the game against their rivals Besiktas in their Turkish league. I even had the opportunity to visit their RAMS Park. Everything lifts your spirit so much that you can’t help but become their fan. Grin

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Manchester United are hopeless for now. It is easily seen from the way they play each one of their games. Still no progress since the day Galatasaray beat them by 3-2 away in the Champions League. I hope that we can take advantage of their situation once again to get another win in Istanbul. Grin

This would be a very important win for us to reach last 16.

Returning to Manchester United they are still having serious issues in defense and I can't say that they very comfortable with scoring goals in general either. Even their most productive players from last season are playing poorly now. I feel like they will draw with Copenhagen and lose to Galatasaray - Bayern Munich duo again. This would be enough to send them down to the Europa League.

There is still hope for a miracle. Don't give up on Manchester United. Perhaps the team will understand that not only Hug is to blame for such a bad game, but they themselves. then everything will go a little better and I really hope that in the match with Fulham Manchester United will show that they can show a beautiful game.

Honestly as I said in the post I would like to see Manchester United in this condition when they play against us once again in the Champions League. Grin

I'm a Galatasaray fan and it has been a long time since I saw my team showing a this good performance in this competition. I believe that they have the strength to beat the Manchester club once again.

But when it comes to the EPL I would like to see them finishing the season in a good place in the standings. They don't deserve to be this bad there with a good squad. They are dealing with some injuries too though but this can't be an excuse. Erik ten Hag's future here would be in danger otherwise.

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There is an opportunity for Manchester United if he won his last two matches and at the same time Galatasaray suffered just one defeat it could push Manchester United to the second position to continue to the knockout.

Yes. Man United should try to win all the remaining matches. And they expect that Bayern Munich defeats Galatasaray again. The most difficult thing that Man United also has a match against Bayern Munich in the final match of the group stage.

If you look at the strength of the teams in Group A with 3 matches remaining. So United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are very difficult. For example, let's say Muechen manages to beat United and Galatasaray, the points are still the same. Then United and Galatasaray managed to beat Coppenhagen. Finally, the deciding match is United vs Galatasaray. If Galatasaray wins or draws, they will qualify. On the other hand, United must use all their strength to win the match against Galatasaray. I think this is the option that comes to mind.

They still have a long way to go to be in the knockout stages. I didn't imagine Mamchester United would be in such a difficult situation, because at the beginning I thought Bayern Munich and Manchester United were the top favorites in this group, and that all changed when they lost to Galatasaray in the first leg.
A win is a must for Manchester United in the 3 games they have to play, it will determine whether they will qualify or not to the next round. Galatasaray have the upper hand now, with the situation they are in now, of course Galatasaray have the advantage.

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If the two teams that are now in first and second place in the standings (Inter Milan and Real Sociedad) collect 3 more points, then it will erase the hopes of Benfica. As for Salzburg, although they still have hope, but they still have to hope that one of Inter Milan or Real Sociedad loses in their last 3 matches and instead Salzburg must win all the remaining matches. With a scenario like that, it is something that is very difficult to realize, especially the two teams above will also always aim for good results in every match they do to ensure themselves that they will qualify from this group phase.

Both Benfica and Salzburg are only play in farmer league, that's why they can't compete against tough teams from other regions. It's different with Inter and Real Sociedad, they might be not the best in their own leagues, but they're used to fight against top teams every season.

Not to mention the good players in Benfica and Salzburg will join to other teams since they're more stronger or popular.

But considering Benfica's previous achievement of being able to reach the quarter finals, they should be able to achieve the same thing this season. However, it seems that it is not going smoothly enough and they are having a very difficult time with Real Sociedad and Inter as strong candidates for teams to qualify for the group phase. For Salzburg, I actually don't see this team as more than an ordinary team when they are in the Champions League competition, but at least they can still get points compared to Benfica. So even though both are teams in the farmers' league, it is clear that Salzburg is still slightly better than Benfica.

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The biggest competitor for the Champions League title is currently Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Bayern Munich. All of them have big chances to actually win the Champions League title. And I also believe that all three of them are going to be in the semifinals of the competition.

If we talk about Barcelona, I don't think they have any chance of winning the Champions League title, to be honest. I am not saying Barcelona is not a good team. They are better than a lot of teams, actually most teams in the world. But they are not Champions League material, to be honest.

I think Barcelona also deserves to be favorite along with Man City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munchen. It's not without reason that i say this, we can see that currently Xavi squad has wiped out three matches with a win and is at the top of the group standings with 9 points. If we look more closely, City has lost twice in the EPL, namely at the hands of Wolves and Arsenal, Munchen was beaten yesterday by a third division team in the DFB Pokal. Madrid has also been beaten by ATM and Barcelona also lost in the El Clasico match. So i think each favorite club has a negative record at their respective domestic levels.

Meanwhile in the UCL, four clubs lead the standings with perfect points without defeat, it is very likely that this positive trend can continue. So in my opinion, the opportunities currently available are still the same, although the situations they face are quite diverse. The knockout stage will be more difficult than we imagined, I think the tough battle will start at that stage.

Barcelona was not as strong as those clubs. This club is rarely winning UCL after it was losing its prime era. I meant look at how barcelona was always going out early unlike real madrid which is always surviving in the UCL till semifinal or even final.
That proves that if barcelona's level is still far below real madrid at this moment. Bayern is always humiliating barcelona once these two clubs will met. I think that barcelona is not a strong contender to win UCL this season.

The situation is uncertain right now, but I believe Barcelona has lower chances compared to clubs like Real Madrid and Bayern. People have been calling these clubs are strongest contender caused by their consistentcy in the UCL.

There's also a reason why barcelona is still far compared with those two clubs too. It's quite clear if people were not even favoring barcelona to win UCL this season. It's still underperform.

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Their failure to win in the 3 matches they have played is a sign that Benfica no longer has any hope of qualifying from the group phase and the team should be more realistic now that they cannot force and forget to focus on their domestic league just to catch up with the huge gap. not sure about this.
Maybe finishing in 3rd place and going to the Europa League is something they can achieve, otherwise I think there is no possibility for Benfica.

If the two teams that are now in first and second place in the standings (Inter Milan and Real Sociedad) collect 3 more points, then it will erase the hopes of Benfica. As for Salzburg, although they still have hope, but they still have to hope that one of Inter Milan or Real Sociedad loses in their last 3 matches and instead Salzburg must win all the remaining matches. With a scenario like that, it is something that is very difficult to realize, especially the two teams above will also always aim for good results in every match they do to ensure themselves that they will qualify from this group phase.

But indeed for Benfica now it is very difficult because if they want to qualify then indirectly they must be able to win all the matches that will be done even with the record of other club between Inter or Sociedad never even won then it is still possible.
It's obviously a very difficult job, because expecting other club to lose but they also have to win then this is a mission that is difficult to do even almost can't so I think they have to give up hope of qualifying for the knock out phase but they can still be in 3rd position at least Salzburg can still be close to them but with a note that they can win in the few matches they do.
Their points are still 0 because they have to lose again and again so it is difficult for benfica at this time especially with a gap of 7 point it is very impossible I think.

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Quote from: DanWalker on November 04, 2023, 03:50:08 AM

The biggest competitor for the Champions League title is currently Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Bayern Munich. All of them have big chances to actually win the Champions League title. And I also believe that all three of them are going to be in the semifinals of the competition.

If we talk about Barcelona, I don't think they have any chance of winning the Champions League title, to be honest. I am not saying Barcelona is not a good team. They are better than a lot of teams, actually most teams in the world. But they are not Champions League material, to be honest.

I think Barcelona also deserves to be favorite along with Man City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munchen. It's not without reason that i say this, we can see that currently Xavi squad has wiped out three matches with a win and is at the top of the group standings with 9 points. If we look more closely, City has lost twice in the EPL, namely at the hands of Wolves and Arsenal, Munchen was beaten yesterday by a third division team in the DFB Pokal. Madrid has also been beaten by ATM and Barcelona also lost in the El Clasico match. So i think each favorite club has a negative record at their respective domestic levels.

Meanwhile in the UCL, four clubs lead the standings with perfect points without defeat, it is very likely that this positive trend can continue. So in my opinion, the opportunities currently available are still the same, although the situations they face are quite diverse. The knockout stage will be more difficult than we imagined, I think the tough battle will start at that stage.

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Their failure to win in the 3 matches they have played is a sign that Benfica no longer has any hope of qualifying from the group phase and the team should be more realistic now that they cannot force and forget to focus on their domestic league just to catch up with the huge gap. not sure about this.
Maybe finishing in 3rd place and going to the Europa League is something they can achieve, otherwise I think there is no possibility for Benfica.

Yes, it seems like Benfica has lost hope of getting through the Champions League group stage, Benfica cannot compete with the clubs in Group D and Benfica can not even score a goals against their opponent when facing match in the current Champions League, to be for ranked 3 and getting to the European league also seem quite difficult for Benfica, but this could happen if Benfica in the next match can wins it so Benfica can catch up with their current points, but if Benfica can't get through the Champions League group stage and can't get to the European League, they can focus on the domestic league because Benfica is quite strong in the Portuguese league and Benfica can win the domestic league title again like last season.

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