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November 03, 2023, 05:27:00 PM
Just wait till the middle of this champions league to see Manchester united in another level that will make you to love their game whenever they want to play their opponent, and then you will know that Manchester united is not a small team you can just predict failure and it will come to stand in the future. I guess, Manchester united coach has discovered what made them to lose last game which the coach made some promised that he will train his players to win their next game to clear the air that he is capable to lead the team to a standard ground.
There are still three matches remaining in the group phase of the Champions League to see who will progress to the next round and Manchester United must really think about this seriously. Because they have to try to get through the group stage first so they can progress to the next round further, although I also don't think that Manchester United will go too far in the Champions League this season even though you yourself have said that the Manchester United coach has found a way to train the players to be better.

The best strategy Manchester United can have for this Chmapnios Leageu is to pass everything and try to focus on the other tournament in which they can achieve something. In fact, Manchester United is not in the good form to race with a great team in the Champions League and they are better off focusing on the Premier League however in this group they could get the second place in the table if Manchester United tries to do better performance and Galatasaray lose some points.
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There are still three matches remaining in the group phase of the Champions League to see who will progress to the next round and Manchester United must really think about this seriously. Because they have to try to get through the group stage first so they can progress to the next round further, although I also don't think that Manchester United will go too far in the Champions League this season even though you yourself have said that the Manchester United coach has found a way to train the players to be better.
Manchester United certainly still has the possibility of qualifying for the last 16, but I'm not sure Ten Hag can take advantage of it even though I don't fully expect them to fail. If Manchester United can win 2 of the remaining 3 matches, then I believe they can qualify for the round of 16 compared to Galatasaray and Copenhagen. Anything is possible right now, but it all depends on how Ten Hag and his players set their goals.

I hope Ten Hag can beat Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next 2 matches because I think these two matches will determine their chances of qualifying the most. Manchester United cannot beat Bayern Munich, although they can, the chances are no better than winning the matches against Copenhagen and Galatasaray.
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Just wait till the middle of this champions league to see Manchester united in another level that will make you to love their game whenever they want to play their opponent, and then you will know that Manchester united is not a small team you can just predict failure and it will come to stand in the future. I guess, Manchester united coach has discovered what made them to lose last game which the coach made some promised that he will train his players to win their next game to clear the air that he is capable to lead the team to a standard ground.

Manchester United still has a chance to advance if they play with integrity, but winning the final three games will be difficult for them because the other teams in the group will not want to forfeit their chances of moving on to the next round. Why you suggested that the Manchester United coach has identified what is causing them to lose is beyond me. Just don't place too much faith in the coach if all he or she is saying is that they will win their next game. the speed at which Manchester United's dismal form is developing To be honest, I think this may even cause some players to lose self-confidence.


However next time I believe Atletico Madrid will be victorious against Celtic home. This would be important three points for Atletico Madrid before playing the remaining toughest games in the group.

That's what practically everyone thinks will happen, and given Atletico Madrid's current form in comparison to Celtic, there's a good chance it will. Their previous encounter was difficult because Celtic demonstrated their strength at home, resulting in a game-ending draw. However, I think Atletico Madrid will demonstrate their strength at home in their upcoming match, and with that, I think Atletico Madrid will exert all of their effort to win.
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November 03, 2023, 03:48:42 PM
Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.
MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.

I be expecting a massive development and steps forward to positivity prior to the game against Fulham tommorow. Fulham will host Manchester United at home and will hurt their defense with counter attacking football from Fulhams attackers.
With Casemiro, Aaron Wan Bisakka and Sergio Regulon all returned from the Injury, the defense and midfielder's should have balance. I've loved how Regulon adapted so fast, he has attacked and defended very well.

Manchester City I expected the loss, maybe a draw, but Newcastle, they should have defended the trophy they won last season. Props to Newcastle who have won both Manchester United and Manchester City in that tournament, I'm already tipping them to successfully win that trophy.
If Newcastle United wins this trophy,it will be a shame to Arsenal who played beautiful football last season without winning any trophy.Mikel Areta has this as a problem now,because he will neglect to win the little trophies that he would have won,and want to win the big one which he finds it very difficult to.He is now aiming for the premier league tittle this season,but he is still gambling with the games.He has decided to play Karl Harvetz who have flopped in almost all Arsenal matches that he has played this season, Despite having Trossard who can florish in that department very well,he has opted to play a player that cannot even boast of an assist since he came to Arsenal.Therefore,anytime Arsenal loses,it's always Arteta the Gambles with it.
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November 03, 2023, 03:17:04 PM
Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.
MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.

I be expecting a massive development and steps forward to positivity prior to the game against Fulham tommorow. Fulham will host Manchester United at home and will hurt their defense with counter attacking football from Fulhams attackers.
With Casemiro, Aaron Wan Bisakka and Sergio Regulon all returned from the Injury, the defense and midfielder's should have balance. I've loved how Regulon adapted so fast, he has attacked and defended very well.

Manchester City I expected the loss, maybe a draw, but Newcastle, they should have defended the trophy they won last season. Props to Newcastle who have won both Manchester United and Manchester City in that tournament, I'm already tipping them to successfully win that trophy.
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November 03, 2023, 03:16:13 PM
My guess was that Inter Milan and Real Sociedad would qualify for the next round. And both these teams are now at the top of the table. Real Sociedad won two matches and drew one. I didn't consider the Benfica team as favourites. Because the performance of this team is quite erratic. But I thought I'd see Benfica third in the table. But Benfica's performance is very bad. They have lost all three matches and are currently at the bottom of the table. The team will not be able to qualify for the Europa League. Benfica will probably want to give full focus to Liga Portugal matches. The team is not interested in Champions League matches.
Definitely Benfica isn't qualifying After loosing all their matches so far in the UCL, they have been really poor with their performance in the UCL but back in their domestic league they are pretty okay and at second position on their league table maybe the pressure is less there.

Real socidad topping the table in their group with inter Milan sharing the same points but have goal difference, Inter Milan has really been brilliant both in the UCL and their domestic league so I'm very optimistic they will make it pass the group stage in the UCL but I don't think they will make it pass the next stage where they will be meeting teams tougher than that which they met in the group stage.
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November 03, 2023, 02:32:42 PM
Just wait till the middle of this champions league to see Manchester united in another level that will make you to love their game whenever they want to play their opponent, and then you will know that Manchester united is not a small team you can just predict failure and it will come to stand in the future. I guess, Manchester united coach has discovered what made them to lose last game which the coach made some promised that he will train his players to win their next game to clear the air that he is capable to lead the team to a standard ground.
There are still three matches remaining in the group phase of the Champions League to see who will progress to the next round and Manchester United must really think about this seriously. Because they have to try to get through the group stage first so they can progress to the next round further, although I also don't think that Manchester United will go too far in the Champions League this season even though you yourself have said that the Manchester United coach has found a way to train the players to be better.
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November 03, 2023, 01:57:55 PM
Things are still well for Atletico Madrid in Group E now maybe. But I think their start is still not convincing enough. Because Atletico Madrid started this season quite impressively. They are doing great in the La Liga. I would like to see the same performance in the Champions League also. They normally have a group which they can finish as leader.

But first the draw against Lazio by a last minute goal and later a draw against Celtic away prevented them from making a stronger start. They could have won against Celtic too actually but that red card pushed them to keep the score instead.

However next time I believe Atletico Madrid will be victorious against Celtic home. This would be important three points for Atletico Madrid before playing the remaining toughest games in the group.

Atletico Madrid will win next game at home and they will be qualifying for the next round most likely without much problems.The group is not that strong with Lazio and Feyenoord,they have all the chances to get out of this group and with the group of players they have in their team this should be easy.

In La Liga they are also doing well which is another indicator that they should do also well in Champions League as rarely I have seen a team doing great in Champions while suffering a lot in their domestic league,this is a reassuring factor for Atletico Madrid that they will qualify further.
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November 03, 2023, 01:54:50 PM
Even though they are strong candidates in the European League, it look like Sevilla also hopes to appear in the Champions League, Sevilla is trying to get point to qualify from the group stage.
Your think Lens can't win a few match but in reality Lens are much better than Sevilla and they maximize their draw rather than defeat if we looks at the chance it look like Sevilla look a little difficult because Sevilla is already 3 point behind Lens and in the next matches Sevilla will face each other against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium I thinks Arsenal will win it against and Sevilla chances of qualifying will become increasingly difficult and it is possible that Sevilla will compete again in the UEFA European League.
I feel like Sevilla is programmed for Europa league, are they on purpose to finish in 3rd position? Cheesy

PSV is really like a shit here, they're win streaks in their local league but they can't even win in Champions league. But Arsenal's recent match was lose, so Arsenal isn't that strong to be honest. Though I believe they will able to enter the quarter final regardless the result in group stages.
I mean it wouldn't really shock me if they aim at that, not like they are going to do much in UCL anyway if they go up, so if they end up being third, that would mean they could win the whole europa cup, and that would be a lot better for them.

Plus this is a better way, because in europa cup you are not getting all that much money like UCL, but when you go to UCL group stages and finish third, that means not only you are getting more money that way, you will also be able to win the europa and can get some reputation as well. There is a reason why it's called Sevilla Cup by some people, they are the ones that won it the most and even on their worst years they still have a chance to end up getting it against better teams.

And against someone is claiming that Sevilla players would aim at losing in the Champions League to participate in the Europa League. I can't believe it and I really want to understand how this idea is processed in the brain. Don't get me wrong, but I just can't understand why someone believes that Sevilla wants to lose in order to participate in a way inferior competition "for reputation" reasons. lol

But I have another idea, I believe that Sevilla wants to get relegated into Segunda Division this year because that way they have to celebrate something next year when they win the Segunda Division and get promoted again. It would also strengthen their reputation.

Now I am waiting for the person posting that "Sevilla lost that game on purpose because they knew it was the only way to finish 3rd in the group" when Sevilla loses the next game... Cheesy
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November 03, 2023, 01:45:41 PM
Even though they are strong candidates in the European League, it look like Sevilla also hopes to appear in the Champions League, Sevilla is trying to get point to qualify from the group stage.
Your think Lens can't win a few match but in reality Lens are much better than Sevilla and they maximize their draw rather than defeat if we looks at the chance it look like Sevilla look a little difficult because Sevilla is already 3 point behind Lens and in the next matches Sevilla will face each other against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium I thinks Arsenal will win it against and Sevilla chances of qualifying will become increasingly difficult and it is possible that Sevilla will compete again in the UEFA European League.
I feel like Sevilla is programmed for Europa league, are they on purpose to finish in 3rd position? Cheesy

PSV is really like a shit here, they're win streaks in their local league but they can't even win in Champions league. But Arsenal's recent match was lose, so Arsenal isn't that strong to be honest. Though I believe they will able to enter the quarter final regardless the result in group stages.
I mean it wouldn't really shock me if they aim at that, not like they are going to do much in UCL anyway if they go up, so if they end up being third, that would mean they could win the whole europa cup, and that would be a lot better for them.

Plus this is a better way, because in europa cup you are not getting all that much money like UCL, but when you go to UCL group stages and finish third, that means not only you are getting more money that way, you will also be able to win the europa and can get some reputation as well. There is a reason why it's called Sevilla Cup by some people, they are the ones that won it the most and even on their worst years they still have a chance to end up getting it against better teams.
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November 03, 2023, 01:29:57 PM
Things are still well for Atletico Madrid in Group E now maybe. But I think their start is still not convincing enough. Because Atletico Madrid started this season quite impressively. They are doing great in the La Liga. I would like to see the same performance in the Champions League also. They normally have a group which they can finish as leader.

But first the draw against Lazio by a last minute goal and later a draw against Celtic away prevented them from making a stronger start. They could have won against Celtic too actually but that red card pushed them to keep the score instead.

However next time I believe Atletico Madrid will be victorious against Celtic home. This would be important three points for Atletico Madrid before playing the remaining toughest games in the group.
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November 03, 2023, 01:08:19 PM
It is quite difficult to determine who can accompany Bayern Munich who qualify from Group A, because Galatasaray and Manchester United also have the opportunity to get second place, 3 matches for each team are crucial matches to get tickets to the next round.

I honestly have the same thoughts as you, Manchester United even though they are experiencing setbacks, they have a greater chance of getting second place after Bayern Munich than Galatasaray if you look at the performance of the team we know as Manchester United, but on the other hand if galatasaray had the luck to win the match against bayern munchen i think it will be very difficult for manchester united to catch him.
If you look in more detail it's actually very difficult, Man United will first face Copenhagen and Galatasaray will face Bayern Munchen. This means that United must again be able to secure 3 points like in their first leg against Copenhagen, and we know that Munchen will be difficult for the Turkish representatives to beat. So the standings will automatically change after the fourth matchday, and United will occupy second place in the standings with 6 points.

The biggest challenge for the Ten Hag squad is actually when they visit Galatasaray headquarters, I think the meeting on the fifth matchday will determine who will qualify. If you manage to secure 3 points against Galatasaray, then the final group phase match against Munchen enough with a draw. However, currently it is doubtful that this scenario will be realized by The Red Devils, perhaps the match against Fulham will first give us an idea regarding their performance on the fourth matchday.

At this point , I really don't believe United stands a chance to qualify further in UCL and it will also be very hard for them to even achieve 3rd spot to go in Europa League.

What if Ten Haag won't even catch the next game ? No one is really happy with him being the coach of United and fans really have no more patience with him but meanwhile the board seams to trust his project and vision on the long term..
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November 03, 2023, 12:58:28 PM
It is quite difficult to determine who can accompany Bayern Munich who qualify from Group A, because Galatasaray and Manchester United also have the opportunity to get second place, 3 matches for each team are crucial matches to get tickets to the next round.

I honestly have the same thoughts as you, Manchester United even though they are experiencing setbacks, they have a greater chance of getting second place after Bayern Munich than Galatasaray if you look at the performance of the team we know as Manchester United, but on the other hand if galatasaray had the luck to win the match against bayern munchen i think it will be very difficult for manchester united to catch him.
If you look in more detail it's actually very difficult, Man United will first face Copenhagen and Galatasaray will face Bayern Munchen. This means that United must again be able to secure 3 points like in their first leg against Copenhagen, and we know that Munchen will be difficult for the Turkish representatives to beat. So the standings will automatically change after the fourth matchday, and United will occupy second place in the standings with 6 points.

The biggest challenge for the Ten Hag squad is actually when they visit Galatasaray headquarters, I think the meeting on the fifth matchday will determine who will qualify. If you manage to secure 3 points against Galatasaray, then the final group phase match against Munchen enough with a draw. However, currently it is doubtful that this scenario will be realized by The Red Devils, perhaps the match against Fulham will first give us an idea regarding their performance on the fourth matchday.
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November 03, 2023, 12:49:32 PM
Just wait till the middle of this champions league to see Manchester united in another level that will make you to love their game whenever they want to play their opponent, and then you will know that Manchester united is not a small team you can just predict failure and it will come to stand in the future. I guess, Manchester united coach has discovered what made them to lose last game which the coach made some promised that he will train his players to win their next game to clear the air that he is capable to lead the team to a standard ground.

Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.

It looks like you are the most optimistic United fan not only on this forum but in general! From what I see in the news regarding the sale of part of United to Radcliffe, I can suggest that now everyone in the club is most thinking about what consequences this will entail (the new co-owner may have a different policy regarding many issues). In such conditions, everyone is busy protecting their personal interests and not the affairs of the club as a sports project (purely my proposal).
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November 03, 2023, 12:45:09 PM
Before Champion league started most people were predict Benfica can able to advances to the next round with Inter Milan but surprisingly Benfica was displayed poor performance which make their position at the bottom of group standings Benfica even lose from Salzburg however with 3 times loses Benfica have slim chances to advances to the next round but their highest position probably at 3rd position at the end of group stages

Benfica will fight against Sociedad next week and this match probably will be determined Benfica final position at group D because if Benfica lose again then Sociedad is became the team who will advances to next round along with Inter Milan and indeed i was a bit surprised to see Sociedad performance because they can able to stole point from Inter Milan and beat Benfica and it could be a fantastic achievement to Sociedad if they can able to fight at round of 16 because if i am not mistaken they never done this before
I personally surprised with two teams performance in this season in Champions League even both are doing impressive in their domestic leagues with AC Milan and Benfica both were strong candidates for the qualification of the next round with their quality and performance, but sadly both are having no goals in three games but here AC Milan is having advantage they are having two points but Benfica is still with zero which mean things are badly down for them in this season now their next game is against Real Sociedad in Spain which is currently at the top and have surprisingly top spot into their group which will allow them spot into next round.

Inter Milan and Real Sociedad both are having seven points and one goal difference allowing Real Sociedad to stay at the top in last thirty years this is third time Real Sociedad having spot into Champions League with never go into round of 16 but this time they are changing history.
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November 03, 2023, 12:22:11 PM
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We can definitely see Bayern Munich's chances of winning first place in the group, because they won three times easily.

Indeed, the interesting problem discussed is that Galatasaray and Manchester United are fighting for second place. For Manchester United itself, I think it will have a bigger chance if compared with Copenhagen to get full points in their match, and the match between Galatasaray and Bayern Munich is logical. Galatasaray will find it difficult to win, but what if the scenario is changed that Bayern Munich will deliberately give Galatasaray victory? Isn't that something that might happen, and it will certainly be very difficult for Manchester United to catch up from the race for second place in their last match if the scenario is like this.

Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to qualify for the last 16 from Group A this season. We don't know for sure which team will accompany them to the round of 16 even though Galatasaray showed something good in their performance against Manchester United. Moreover, it is not certain that Galatasaray will be able to maintain their form in the next 3 matches, in fact I doubt they will be able to beat Manchester United in the next match.

Manchester United have certainly been in poor form so far this season, but that hasn't cost them their Champions League chances. They can use the next 3 matches to win points, but I am sure that Ten Hag will still have difficulty beating Bayern Munich in the remaining matches.
It is quite difficult to determine who can accompany Bayern Munich who qualify from Group A, because Galatasaray and Manchester United also have the opportunity to get second place, 3 matches for each team are crucial matches to get tickets to the next round.

I honestly have the same thoughts as you, Manchester United even though they are experiencing setbacks, they have a greater chance of getting second place after Bayern Munich than Galatasaray if you look at the performance of the team we know as Manchester United, but on the other hand if galatasaray had the luck to win the match against bayern munchen i think it will be very difficult for manchester united to catch him.
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November 03, 2023, 12:21:32 PM
Before Champion league started most people were predict Benfica can able to advances to the next round with Inter Milan but surprisingly Benfica was displayed poor performance which make their position at the bottom of group standings Benfica even lose from Salzburg however with 3 times loses Benfica have slim chances to advances to the next round but their highest position probably at 3rd position at the end of group stages

My guess was that Inter Milan and Real Sociedad would qualify for the next round. And both these teams are now at the top of the table. Real Sociedad won two matches and drew one. I didn't consider the Benfica team as favourites. Because the performance of this team is quite erratic. But I thought I'd see Benfica third in the table. But Benfica's performance is very bad. They have lost all three matches and are currently at the bottom of the table. The team will not be able to qualify for the Europa League. Benfica will probably want to give full focus to Liga Portugal matches. The team is not interested in Champions League matches.

Because last season Benfica had great success by winning the group, and Benfica even managed to surpass PSG and Juventus last season. With these good results last season, it is hoped that this season Benfica will be successful again too. But the facts are very far from expectations, and very far from initial predictions before the season started. Because yes, with the bad results that Benfica got this season in the Champions League, it seems clear that Benfica no longer has a chance of recovering. Because of course, losing all the initial matches in this group phase is a bad result and as such, to finish in third place I'm sure that won't happen.
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November 03, 2023, 12:11:18 PM
Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.
MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.
Their chances are still open for the group stage now it's just that as you said with their performance still irregular this becomes difficult for Manhchester United so if indeed they still want good results and qualify for the next phase then what must be considered is to make some new waves by being able to beat Galatasaray and Copenhagen in the next match.
Put Bayern aside because it will be very difficult to touch but as long as they can play well and can overcome Copenhagen and Galatasaray with 3 points then position 2 is wide open for them.
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November 03, 2023, 12:06:55 PM
how can we not be upset when seeing our favorite team become mediocre for 10 years? Just imagine, we support the club either directly or only via TV, but we feel the same atmosphere of victory and defeat. We support the team not only because of the big name, but the community and the same emotions. If we are not angry, maybe our emotions with the club are still not strong. However, MU has been asleep for a long time, at worst Milan has already given the Scudetto, while MU, in UCL, UEL and EPL, they have not shown anything for their supporters. While supporters need a trophy.
Not to mention if we have to stay up late watching our favorite team and lose in a match with a much worse quality of play. Everyone has a favorite team and they have supported that team long before they were successful or not. Annoyance because our favorite team plays badly is the reaction of true fans and I myself am also very angry when my team loses and plays badly in any match. Man United and Milan have not given prestigious trophies to clubs for a long time, especially for the Champions League.

The big names for these two teams began to fade after several other clubs began to show extraordinary improvements. Especially Man United, I was very annoyed when I saw their inconsistent play and in the Manchester United derby they were really embarrassed by the city team and it seemed like there was no resistance at all.
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November 03, 2023, 12:02:27 PM
Manchester united group are not poor group, but base on the preparations that is going on in the camp of Manchester united now, it show that Manchester united will win their next games to maintain a good leading till they get to final to try their best to lift the trophy.
MU should have had a chance to qualify for the group phase. But it seems that with its current performance, MU is having quite a difficult time. Ten Hag's squad's performance had improved, but after several players were injured, Ten Hag lost its strength.
they struggled quite hard last season to get a UCL ticket. but it seems like they didn't show a good game to compete with the other competing teams.
The results of MU's matches with Man City and Newcastle made everyone assess how bad Ten Hag's squad is at the moment. it's hard to compete in the UCL.
The chances of them qualifying from the group stage are still open, the problem is that it is difficult because if they want to ensure that they will qualify one of them is by winning all the remaining matches. It's okay that they can win against Copenhagen, but against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich it's going to be a much tougher job. Galatasaray will also be playing their hearts out against Mancehster United. A draw in my opinion would be enough for them, although we also have to see the result of their match against Copenhagen.
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