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Quote from: pawel7777 on August 26, 2024, 05:01:02 PM

So I've just learned that the group stage of the UCL will be replaced by the new format, the League stage:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
with similar changes done to the Europa League and the Conference League.

What's the community consensus on those changes? Do you think it's a step in a right direction? I have mixed feelings about this.

In my opinion, this is an ugly format that completely kills interest in the group stage. A random swamp in which we cannot even enjoy the traditional two-match confrontation if, thanks to the draw, two strong clubs must play each other. This format was introduced as a competitor/replacement for a potential Super League, but I think it will be changed in a couple of years because it has no rational justification. This is the ugly brainchild of officials who are engaged in competitive wars.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on August 28, 2024, 01:52:28 AM

Galatasaray played poorly and was eliminated, but the thing that caught my attention the most was Muslera kicking the football player who was celebrating a goal and receiving a red card.
I did not see the position in the television broadcast, but I was saddened when I saw the image on social media. Maybe he did it out of anger and stress at that moment, but I think it did not suit a goalkeeper like Muslera.
In the matches of the night, only Galatasaray was eliminated and made a surprise. Prague and Salzburg made it to the Champions League groups.

Well, scandals for Turkish teams is a common thing and fights, scuffles and clarification of relations after the match and on the field is a frequent phenomenon in the Turkish championship or in games with Turkish teams. This time it happened that none of the Turkish teams got into the Champions League group and it happened in 2022, but still it is quite rare and usually at least one Turkish team gets into the Champions League group.
Jose Mourinho had a chance to get Fenerbahce into the Champions League group, but a 118th minute goal against Fenerbahce probably spoiled Mourinho's mood for a long time.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on August 28, 2024, 01:52:28 AM

Galatasaray played poorly and was eliminated, but the thing that caught my attention the most was Muslera kicking the football player who was celebrating a goal and receiving a red card.
I did not see the position in the television broadcast, but I was saddened when I saw the image on social media. Maybe he did it out of anger and stress at that moment, but I think it did not suit a goalkeeper like Muslera.
In the matches of the night, only Galatasaray was eliminated and made a surprise. Prague and Salzburg made it to the Champions League groups.

My predictions were even wrong about Galatasaray. I think that Galatasaray will be able to win the match in the second leg and qualify for the next stage. But my guess was wrong. And I also lost my bet. Young Boys seems to be able to overcome every strategy made by their opponents. But I can also understand it because Young Boys is actually a team that has qualified for the UCL group stage far more often than Galatasaray in the last few seasons.

But I have a little more hope for Galatasaray because last season they performed quite well. But it seems that every time the season changes, we will always see ups and downs in a club's strength. And yes, even though we are used to seeing this, we still always feel surprised.

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Quote from: swogerino on August 28, 2024, 04:26:26 AM

What a disappointing game from Galatasaray yesterday night. What disappointed me more were the stats of the game as while I was expecting Galatasaray to be attacking a lot the complete opposite of that happened, Young Boys were dominating the game and they had even more chances to score goals in the early stage of the game. I guess many people have lost a lot of money through their bets yesterday in Champions League and to make an example here, I am showing a bet that I found many other games and lost only because of Galatasaray so I can illustrate what I say with this bet id in here :

The result that Galasataray had to accept even though many were disappointed with the result in the last match. Like it or not, congratulations to Young Boys who are back playing in the Champions League even though during the Champions League they couldn't do much.
Many bet on the 2nd leg for Galatasaray to win based on the result of the match at home which lost 3-2. But in fact, the disappointing result happened in Istanbul, Turkiye.

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That's why in crucial matches like this you shouldn't underestimate any opponent, especially if the victory is to qualify for the Champions League this season where every team will definitely play as well as possible in order to qualify and that has been done well by the Young Boys team at Galatasaray's home. And I have to congratulate Young Boys for being able to beat Galatasaray in the first leg and the second leg so that the Young Boys team really deserves to qualify for the Champions League this season.

After this defeat, Turkey will remain without a representative in the Champions League this season. I did not believe that Young Boys would be able to beat Galatasaray, even if they were able to do it at home, that's one thing, but they also repeated it away and I will say that they deserved to win, they did not try to play defensively to at least achieve a draw, which would have been enough for them, but they tried to win again, even if you compare the statistics of the teams' shots, you can see that Young Boys had more desire to do this, 7 shots on target, against 4 shots for Galatasaray. Today, several more teams will decide who is stronger and tomorrow we will see the group stage draw.

We have to accept few things like Young Boys are weak side, but Galatasaray play worst ever in this game just because of this now we have no Turkish club in Champions League and now peoples are talking we have only Turkish clubs hype their development is just on media and papers nothing positive happening to I also believe it's right because things were not challenging for the Galatasaray but still they fail to bring themselves to better place and face consequences.

Now with this another disappointed end of their campaign they have to check their mistakes and try to fix these before start of new season because now it's time for them to have things on better level for having good results in UEFA competitions without good performance we can't expect them to have chance of having entry into group stage every year many teams are doing surprises as things are never been easy.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 28, 2024, 04:24:18 AM

Galatasaray played terrible, even worse than the first leg. This is why they lost home as well and said goodbye to the Champions League... Normally the quality gap is huge but we don't see it at all on action. This is all the chairman's fault. Because he was complacent and didn't take the needed steps in terms of transfers in time.

I'm sure Okan Buruk will be fired Cheesy

Galatasaray isn't a team that only focus on the domestic trophy, but they also looking to win in International League. It's true that they almost impossible to win Champions League, but Galatasaray mostly able to enter the group stage, but now they're lose in the qualification.

Anyway it seems Dinamo Zagreb will qualify to the next round, scores 3 goals is hard even though they will play in their home.

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I guess we won't see any Turkish teams in the Champions League this season. First, Fenerbahce got eliminated by Lille, and today Galatasaray failed to win against the Swiss champions, Young Boys.
As much as Lille is a strong team from the top of the French league, one of the strongest in Europe, you would expect more from Galatasaray against YB. Galatasaray dominated the league last season, scoring an impressive 102 points, but tonight, they were unable to do anything and the game must've been a disappointment for the Turkish fans.
Something bad happened to Turkish football over the recent years, it could be that due to tough economic situation in the country (high inflation and all that) clubs got poorer and can't attract or retain talented players.

If Turkish teams are going to play so badly, it is better that we do not see them in the Champions League.
If they had continued to play like this, they would have beaten our Turkish teams in the Champions League by a very different score, it would have been worse for us.
I am happy with the situation.

Bad results in the Champions League do not mean bad performances in the domestic league, if Galatasaray's elimination with a 0-1 defeat at home is a big blow and that non-seeded teams like Young Boys can beat a strong club from Turkey at least it is an extraordinary achievement for Young Boys, and hopefully no big clubs underestimate their opponents before the match then it is likely to happen similar to what Galatasary will experience.

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What a disappointing game from Galatasaray yesterday night. What disappointed me more were the stats of the game as while I was expecting Galatasaray to be attacking a lot the complete opposite of that happened, Young Boys were dominating the game and they had even more chances to score goals in the early stage of the game. I guess many people have lost a lot of money through their bets yesterday in Champions League and to make an example here, I am showing a bet that I found many other games and lost only because of Galatasaray so I can illustrate what I say with this bet id in here :

https://stake.com/sports/home?type=sports&status=settled&iid=sport%3A219740956&modal=bet

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Quote from: Slow death on August 27, 2024, 05:23:47 PM

Galatasaray - Young Boys

Galatasaray lost and were eliminated. It seems to me that this season they are not doing well compared to last season. Turkish teams have not done well in European competitions. I don't understand why, there are teams from leagues much worse than the Turkish league but they have managed to do well in European competitions.

Salzburg - Dynamo Kyiv

Dynamo Kyiv managed to draw, but were eliminated. unfortunately

Sparta Prague - Malmo

Sparta Prague won comfortably again and Malmo were eliminated

Galatasaray played terrible, even worse than the first leg. This is why they lost home as well and said goodbye to the Champions League... Normally the quality gap is huge but we don't see it at all on action. This is all the chairman's fault. Because he was complacent and didn't take the needed steps in terms of transfers in time.

It was easy for Salzburg and Sparta Prague to finish the job in this leg. None of them struggled to eliminate their opponents by meeting expectations.

Today the last participants of league phase are going to be determined. Dinamo Zagreb, Bodo/Glimt, Lille are the teams I'm more confident of. For the Slovan Bratislava - Midtjylland one, it is really difficult to predict. Sad

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That's why in crucial matches like this you shouldn't underestimate any opponent, especially if the victory is to qualify for the Champions League this season where every team will definitely play as well as possible in order to qualify and that has been done well by the Young Boys team at Galatasaray's home. And I have to congratulate Young Boys for being able to beat Galatasaray in the first leg and the second leg so that the Young Boys team really deserves to qualify for the Champions League this season.

After this defeat, Turkey will remain without a representative in the Champions League this season. I did not believe that Young Boys would be able to beat Galatasaray, even if they were able to do it at home, that's one thing, but they also repeated it away and I will say that they deserved to win, they did not try to play defensively to at least achieve a draw, which would have been enough for them, but they tried to win again, even if you compare the statistics of the teams' shots, you can see that Young Boys had more desire to do this, 7 shots on target, against 4 shots for Galatasaray. Today, several more teams will decide who is stronger and tomorrow we will see the group stage draw.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on August 27, 2024, 11:49:20 PM

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I also don't think Galatasaray will be eliminated. The bad feeling was there when in the first half they failed to score a goal. and the pressure for them will be heavier in the second half. I also lost the bet in this match. but I put it on a single bet. so I still got a win from Salzburg and Sparta.

betting on the second round like this is sometimes very difficult. there are several factors that might change the game not to run like in the first leg. there are still some interesting matches today. hopefully this time the results will be better.

I really hoped that Galatasaray could turn things around when playing in front of their supporters, but something unexpected happened, Galatasaray players actually had difficulty scoring goals at home. This result means that Galatasaray are certain to fail to play in the Champions League this season, they have to be relegated to the Europa League after being defeated by Young Boys with an aggregate of 2-4.
Salzburg and Sparta progressed smoothly into the Champions League after they managed to win their previous matches, the second leg went according to plan because there was no pressure on them whatsoever. That's football, there are always surprises that are difficult to predict, you are not the only one who lost the bet on the Galatasaray vs Young Boys match because on paper Galatasaray quality is better than Young Boys.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on August 27, 2024, 12:26:16 PM

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The new format will now be interesting but I'm not sure any English club will be able to compete for trophies other than Manchester City.
For the previous few seasons Liverpool could still do that but for now I want to relax my expectations for Liverpool because although they at the beginning of the domestic competition they played very well but in the end there are still doubts for Arne slot in this regard.

Liverpool can play well in the champions league as they have a history of winning. It is the same history that is helping real madrid to always be the team winning every time too. Liverpool already has 6 champions league therefore they can win more with or without a stronger team. Let say Real Madrid and Liverpool meets at the champions league final, Real Madrid might still win them as they have a better squad but it isn't going to be easy for Real Madrid as how it would had been when they hey meet a smaller team as Arsenal. Arsenal aren't a champions league team as they do not have any experience or heritage in the champions league.

You can’t just look down on Arsenal like that not to be a competent team enough in the champions league. They may have failed to go far last season but their performance in the premier league and the little they’ve done in the champions league is enough for them to be one of the worthy teams in this year’s champions league competition. They may have no experience but even last year, they may have gathered some experience already and if they can, they can always improve for the better this season. No team should be underrated this early when the champions league competition has not even began yet. Arsenal and Liverpool are suppose to be a worthy team in the champions league this season but until the season starts, I’ll continue to have much hope in them.

Arsenal's performance is fine for the Premier League but they won't be able to do the same in the Champions League at least. They perform in such a way that it seems that the Champions League tournament is not important to them. One match was won, one match was lost, they have no problem with this, they are only giving importance to the Premier League tournament. If Arsenal took the Champions League tournament seriously, they would have done well in the Champions League long ago and their main plan would have been the Champions League. Some players have changed this season and there will be an expectation that they focus equally on the Champions League as well as the Premier League.

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Qarabag vs Dinamo Zagreb (Dinamo Zagreb win)
Crvena Zvezda vs Bodø/Glimt (Crvena Zvezda)
Slavia Prague vs Lille (draw)

Honestly, in the second leg of the play-off round, I am a little doubtful about my own bet because there are still many surprises that can happen. But I only believe in the match I choose and hopefully I will be lucky.

From the several matches I chose, maybe only the Slavia Prague vs Lille match is difficult to predict because even though they are 2 aggregate scores behind, Slavia Prague is not a weak team and this match could end in a draw and in the penalty round all the surprises happen. So I prefer to bet on cards because I am sure Slavia Prague will be very aggressive in getting 2 scores.

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Match first leg LOSC managed to win 2 - 0 over Slavia Praha and Dinamo Zagreb won 3 - 0 over Qarabag, today the second leg for this match will also start and Slavia Praha plays at home as well as Qarabag.
I personally think this second match is match that will be difficult to predict who will win but I sure LOSC can qualify for the next round, but for Qarabag itself it will be difficult to surpass Dinamo Zagreb with the 3 aggregate points they have.
I don't know who will get the advantage in these two matches and can qualify for the next round, what is clear is that Dinamo Zagreb has fairly comfortable condition with the 3 aggregate points they have, playing away with draw might be the only way for Dinamo Zagreb.
In these two matches I also took the BTTS option to bet, the chances of goals from each team are really quite large if look at the performance of the first leg match.

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Quote from: klidex on August 27, 2024, 11:31:01 PM

In the end I lost the bet because Galatasaray lost again in the second leg, it was a shame they had to end up here even though they had a chance to qualify but once again they wasted it, it is indeed not easy to qualify for the League phase because Young Boys is also not a club that can be underestimated, I had doubts because I thought the first win was just luck but seeing this second leg I realized Young Boys did well and were more focused so as not to concede.

That's why in crucial matches like this you shouldn't underestimate any opponent, especially if the victory is to qualify for the Champions League this season where every team will definitely play as well as possible in order to qualify and that has been done well by the Young Boys team at Galatasaray's home. And I have to congratulate Young Boys for being able to beat Galatasaray in the first leg and the second leg so that the Young Boys team really deserves to qualify for the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on August 27, 2024, 05:22:38 PM

I guess we won't see any Turkish teams in the Champions League this season. First, Fenerbahce got eliminated by Lille, and today Galatasaray failed to win against the Swiss champions, Young Boys.
As much as Lille is a strong team from the top of the French league, one of the strongest in Europe, you would expect more from Galatasaray against YB. Galatasaray dominated the league last season, scoring an impressive 102 points, but tonight, they were unable to do anything and the game must've been a disappointment for the Turkish fans.
Something bad happened to Turkish football over the recent years, it could be that due to tough economic situation in the country (high inflation and all that) clubs got poorer and can't attract or retain talented players.

If Turkish teams are going to play so badly, it is better that we do not see them in the Champions League.
If they had continued to play like this, they would have beaten our Turkish teams in the Champions League by a very different score, it would have been worse for us.
I am happy with the situation.

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Galatasaray played poorly and was eliminated, but the thing that caught my attention the most was Muslera kicking the football player who was celebrating a goal and receiving a red card.
I did not see the position in the television broadcast, but I was saddened when I saw the image on social media. Maybe he did it out of anger and stress at that moment, but I think it did not suit a goalkeeper like Muslera.
In the matches of the night, only Galatasaray was eliminated and made a surprise. Prague and Salzburg made it to the Champions League groups.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on August 27, 2024, 12:26:16 PM

You can’t just look down on Arsenal like that not to be a competent team enough in the champions league. They may have failed to go far last season but their performance in the premier league and the little they’ve done in the champions league is enough for them to be one of the worthy teams in this year’s champions league competition. They may have no experience but even last year, they may have gathered some experience already and if they can, they can always improve for the better this season. No team should be underrated this early when the champions league competition has not even began yet. Arsenal and Liverpool are suppose to be a worthy team in the champions league this season but until the season starts, I’ll continue to have much hope in them.

With Arsenal's performances in last season's Champions League that show Arsenal is also a strong competitor in the competition, and with the great performances they have started this season with, I have some confidence that Arsenal will go far in this Champions League competition. However, let's not jump to conclusions now, as the competition has not yet started. It is too early to say much about their performance in the Champions League, as even the domestic league competition has not progressed very far. The reason I believe Arsenal might go far in the Champions League is based on their squad and their performances last season in the competition.

As for Liverpool, we are all aware that Liverpool is not a weak team in the Champions League. It just so happened that Liverpool's performance declined last season. Otherwise, Liverpool always performs well in the Champions League. From what I have observed about the club now, they are playing better than they did last season in the different matches I have watched recently.

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Quote from: klidex on August 27, 2024, 11:31:01 PM

In the end I lost the bet because Galatasaray lost again in the second leg, it was a shame they had to end up here even though they had a chance to qualify but once again they wasted it, it is indeed not easy to qualify for the League phase because Young Boys is also not a club that can be underestimated, I had doubts because I thought the first win was just luck but seeing this second leg I realized Young Boys did well and were more focused so as not to concede.

Likewise Salzburg who only got a 1-1 draw against Dynamo Kyiv but Szalburg was the one who qualified for the League phase and after that Sparta Praha who won again against Malmo and created a Cleansheet in 2 matches.

I also don't think Galatasaray will be eliminated. The bad feeling was there when in the first half they failed to score a goal. and the pressure for them will be heavier in the second half. I also lost the bet in this match. but I put it on a single bet. so I still got a win from Salzburg and Sparta.

betting on the second round like this is sometimes very difficult. there are several factors that might change the game not to run like in the first leg. there are still some interesting matches today. hopefully this time the results will be better.

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Quote from: rendravolt on August 27, 2024, 10:55:24 AM

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I made a bet that I think is quite risky with odds @3.76 including Galatasaray, Szalburg and Sparta Praha's victory even though it is clear that these clubs have won in the first leg with a score of 2:0 so in the second leg even though they get a draw they can still qualify but I expect them to win again because I see their opponents' defense is quite weak.

Basically no team wants to rely on the results that exist later with the previous advantage and here you have the right view to describe the bet. However, both Salzburg and Sparta Prague will try to win, especially since they both play as hosts. It would be disappointing if they made a mistake at home that ended in something undesirable.

For Galatasaray, that is true and if they weaken in the second leg it will be even more embarrassing. No matter where they play, even in away games they have to win if they want to appear in the Champions League this season. They should be aware that being a representative of Turkey in the highest European competition is a pride for every club. Therefore, as long as the aggregate difference is only thin, opportunities and luck will still cover them and it depends on how they can do it well.

In the end I lost the bet because Galatasaray lost again in the second leg, it was a shame they had to end up here even though they had a chance to qualify but once again they wasted it, it is indeed not easy to qualify for the League phase because Young Boys is also not a club that can be underestimated, I had doubts because I thought the first win was just luck but seeing this second leg I realized Young Boys did well and were more focused so as not to concede.

Likewise Salzburg who only got a 1-1 draw against Dynamo Kyiv but Szalburg was the one who qualified for the League phase and after that Sparta Praha who won again against Malmo and created a Cleansheet in 2 matches.

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