As most of us already know, the new CL league phase will see the top 8 teams qualify automatically and the other teams from 9th-24th will compete in a knockout play-off round to determine the other 8 teams that will qualify, before i continue i'd like to add that i think this new format sucks, but it is what it is and we have no choice but to enjoy it.
Now to my question, which teams do you think will make up the 8 that will qualify automatically, in no particular order. I'd go first: City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid and PSG.
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City definitely has a high chance of winning against Inter, not saying that Inter is a bad team, and not even saying that there is no chance that they would not win, of course there is a small chance that Inter could win, but all the arrows are pointed at City here, and I think they will get it. What I believe is that we are going to see this changing more and more, we should consider this to be something that will not be that much of a big deal, it will change a lot.
I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
Looking at the side of Manchester City and Inter Milan, we would indeed prefer Man City as the favorite to win this match, even though Inter Milan did bring home the scudetto last season, but when facing Guardiola's squad I don't think they are that tough to stop Haaland who is currently in his best condition.I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
Maybe a subjective view of the Manchester City and Inter Milan match, but I don't see any chance of a draw in this match, Man City has a greater potential for victory, this is also nothing more than an assessment of the team that meets my instincts.
Man City vs Inter
Manchester City vs Inter Milan will meet in the first match in the Champions League on Thursday, this is one of the matches that caught my attention because these two clubs are Champions League finalists in the 2022/23 season and Manchester City who won the Champions League and Inter Milan became runners up and they will meet earlier this season.
Manchester City will certainly be more favored in this match because Man City is in its best form.
The bookies give lower odds to Man City because we can already predict that Man City will be more favored to win against Inter Milan, oh yes for the match to be held at the Etihad stadium betting on Man City's victory is the right choice.
here are the odds:
Yea, you have a point because I also have that feeling that the game might end up in a draw because it is their first game in the season and they will be fully ready to put in more effort than expected. This will determine the both teams to end the game in a draw, but on the other hand, many will be expecting Manchester City to win the game because, based on some considerations, they are more fit than Inter Milan. because if not for anything, they are playing a home game, and that only is enough to make Manchester City willing to win the game and get more points so that they will be seen at the top of the table from the beginning of the season to the end, even though we all know it will be somehow hard for them to win the trophy this season.
Real Madrid definitely has an easy group stage, they are not facing any big teams, Dortmund shouldn't be that hard for them, and maybe Liverpool is the hardest but that's about it, rest seems even easier. Of course when you are one of the biggest teams in the world, it becomes very tough for you to face any team that is at least as good. I would say maybe PSG, Bayern, City are the only ones we can say that are on their level, and even they are questionable in most seasons as well, aside from those teams Real is the best team and they will keep on winning.
There is a reason why they keep winning the UCL, if they weren't this good, they wouldn't be able to do it so often. So when you are that good, teams that are not group stage material becomes boring games that doesn't feel like it's as good as even some league games.
Like Real will play against Brest, or Stuttgart, or Lille, or Salzburg, all of these teams feel like it's nothing compared to who they will end up playing normally at later stages. In any case, they have at least eight instead of six and that should be something to cheer for them, it would definitely be a good situation for them because they would make some more money.
There is a reason why they keep winning the UCL, if they weren't this good, they wouldn't be able to do it so often. So when you are that good, teams that are not group stage material becomes boring games that doesn't feel like it's as good as even some league games.
Like Real will play against Brest, or Stuttgart, or Lille, or Salzburg, all of these teams feel like it's nothing compared to who they will end up playing normally at later stages. In any case, they have at least eight instead of six and that should be something to cheer for them, it would definitely be a good situation for them because they would make some more money.
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Even the dealers gave the biggest opportunity for Manchester City to be the champion in the Champions League this season, in terms of Real Madrid even in second place after Manchester City. This became something natural because at their previous meetings Manchester City also defeated Inter Milan in the final.I agreed with you, even though the dealer sided with Manchester City, it did not mean they would easily defeat Inter Milan. Inter Milan is one of the good teams, last season they also won the championship in Serie A. This was the meeting of the two teams that won their local league. Of course what we hope is that they will be able to present a very interesting game for us to enjoy for 90 minutes in normal time.
The fact that Manchester City has the best odds here to win the Champions League is not surprising. I have checked it and it is around 3.8, which I think is neither too high nor too low. But it's still damn risky to go for it as the numbers speak for themselves. Manchester City is trying hard to win it for over a decade now and they were only able to win it once. But some of the odds are quite interesting. Arsenal for example is about 9.0 while Bayern Munich is around 13.0. I am not convinced whether there is any justification for that difference. I think Arsenal against Bayern Munich in the final rounds of the Champions League would be a 50:50 game.
Even though Arsenal has lesser odds than Bayern Munich but I still feel that Bayern Munich is better than Arsenal in the champions league and they proved it last season even though the strength of the both teams looks a bit equal but when we compare their performance in the champions league last season, Bayern Munich is stronger but let's see how it goes again this season if Arsenal can realize themselves and do more better than they did last season.
City definitely has a high chance of winning against Inter, not saying that Inter is a bad team, and not even saying that there is no chance that they would not win, of course there is a small chance that Inter could win, but all the arrows are pointed at City here, and I think they will get it. What I believe is that we are going to see this changing more and more, we should consider this to be something that will not be that much of a big deal, it will change a lot.
I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
Inter Milan isn't going to be an easy opponent side for Manchester City in this clash , yes Manchester seem better, but if we consider Inter Milans performance last season at Italian serie A league side , you'll get to know that this is going to be a 50/50 chance kind of game which will be open for hmboth side , will be a game of who utilizes they vey best opportunity they got to score. I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
If Milan performance does not improve soon, I am more confident that Liverpool will win the match. If you believe in Paulo Fonseca who will not let Milan end up losing, but unfortunately the coach does not have much experience in managing a big team in the UCL. Meanwhile, from H2H, Liverpool is much more favored.
Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
Although I'd say Liverpool is more likely to win, if I had to bet I would probably go for a double-chance bet on Milan or a draw. Milan was off to a bad start to the league season, but there's a chance they'll wake up on time. They're not a bad team overall. For what it's worth, they defeated Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man City in the pre-season friendlies.Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
It's worth to wait on how they perform against Venezia this weekend, they're a big favourite, so it'll be a good chance for them to unblock.
With you saying it could be Milan waking up at the right time it might happen in the game because this is a match of prestige that is impossible for them to play badly, but I just look at the statistics now from the previous few matches then Liverpool are much better that I see.
City definitely has a high chance of winning against Inter, not saying that Inter is a bad team, and not even saying that there is no chance that they would not win, of course there is a small chance that Inter could win, but all the arrows are pointed at City here, and I think they will get it. What I believe is that we are going to see this changing more and more, we should consider this to be something that will not be that much of a big deal, it will change a lot.
I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
I personally believe that the best thing to do for City is to keep going with whatever they have and just try to dominate the game. As long as they defend Martinez well enough, they should be fine not getting scored on, so it's all about beating that famous Italian defense, which is very tough but they can do it. I can see a draw for this game as well, it's very likely, it's either a city win or a draw if you ask me. Betting on City to win would be an easy bet though, I can see that.
If Milan performance does not improve soon, I am more confident that Liverpool will win the match. If you believe in Paulo Fonseca who will not let Milan end up losing, but unfortunately the coach does not have much experience in managing a big team in the UCL. Meanwhile, from H2H, Liverpool is much more favored.
Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
Although I'd say Liverpool is more likely to win, if I had to bet I would probably go for a double-chance bet on Milan or a draw. Milan was off to a bad start to the league season, but there's a chance they'll wake up on time. They're not a bad team overall. For what it's worth, they defeated Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man City in the pre-season friendlies.
It's worth to wait on how they perform against Venezia this weekend, they're a big favourite, so it'll be a good chance for them to unblock.
Liverpool performance has improved rapidly at the start of this season, while Milan still looks to be struggling because they have not found their best form. Liverpool are of course the favourites to win this game, but Milan are also a very experienced team in the Champions League. Paulo Fonseca will not let this important match end in disappointment, he will try to motivate his players to perform optimally. A draw in the match is fair for both teams, skipping the bet on this match might be better as Milan might cause a surprise in UCL.
If Milan performance does not improve soon, I am more confident that Liverpool will win the match. If you believe in Paulo Fonseca who will not let Milan end up losing, but unfortunately the coach does not have much experience in managing a big team in the UCL. Meanwhile, from H2H, Liverpool is much more favored.Skipping this match not to bet, I don't think I will do it. Because I believe Liverpool has a great chance to embarrass Milan at home. Skipping odds @1.93 is very detrimental.
I also think that with the potential of players like the one in Real Madrid it is impossible to lose in a round that is not of value, they will definitely get their position for the better, only with the performance like now it does make many people pessimistic with their potential whether they can qualify further Or not, but in terms of my observations, they will be quite capable even more than the semi -finals.
They only need some time to adjust their strength again.
They only need some time to adjust their strength again.
Real Madrid's potential is inherent, and they have always been fortunate in terms of players, but people continue to compare them to Barcelona, who are still recovering. Even in the previous season's champions league, they did not anticipate anything from Barcelona because they were preoccupied with coping with Girona now, however, just because they have managed to accumulate 12 points, they feel comfortable and will be able to play in the champions league in the same manner as they play in the la Liga. And just even look at the kind of players that Real Madrid have, they are not even comparable in the la liga but when it comes to the champions league then they don't have a choice than to be scared of Manchester City, I was wishing for us to meet next season but we won't be doing that anymore this season everything is still hot and we are also in preparation with Real Madrid and this season we are going to be seen who is going to be the best because they feel they are the king of champions league but they will still be an easy defeat for us this season if we are eventually meet then their won't be any bragging that will be coming from them even if I love them.
You must be very confident with the champion mentality of Real Madrid and also the players they have I think you see from all the potential and think much longer about Real Madrid, it is not ideal when compared to the temporary time and only a few matches have just started in La Liga, many people have concluded too far to other major leagues that Real Madrid is involved in.
In the Champions League, the most realized strength is much more balanced is Manchester City I have no doubt that City is indeed a big threat, but I think you need to consider Liverpool, because in my opinion Liverpool also has the potential this season to become one of the rivals that can be counted on in the championship competition.
Seriously, we don't know how lucky Real Madrid will find themselves in lifting the Champions League this upcoming season. It's hard to say whether they continue their winning streak of lifting the Champions League trophy again, as they have been known for. For the record, Real Madrid has been known for lifting the champions consistently; it all started in 2013/2014, till date; it was only in 2019/2020 that Chelsea denied them the lifting of the Champions League trophy, but every other season, they did that.
For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.
For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.
Real Madrid fans have been expecting very good performances from them in all the competitions they are participating in. We can’t say yet that their performances will give them the trophy this season because, to me, what people are expecting from Real Madrid is that we have not seen it in La Liga. I think they are still struggling, and also some of their players are injured. However, let's watch and see how it will be for them in the Champions League competition. Maybe their performance will be something different from La Liga performance.
As for Mbappe, I think he is still yet to show what people are expecting from him. He is still studying the pattern of the season and also the competition, but I believe he will do something different in the Champions League too. Let’s watch and see how it goes.
Real Madrid are experiencing problems in their squad due to several key players being injured, their absence in the squad will affect the depth of the team which will make it difficult for them to win big matches. A big team name alone is not enough to achieve victory without being supported by a complete squad, in this phase it might be a little easier for Real Madrid, but when entering the next round the competition will be even more difficult.
The absence of these players will have an impact on their performance, If am not mistaken, I do not think Real Madrid ever played a game last season without Tchouméni and Camavinga, as both contributed to strengthening the defensive midfield. Both players will miss the Champions League game. A big team cannot win a game without great players. However, there is positive news for the team, Bellingham and Militao are training with the squad. I hope Camavinga, Tchouméni, and Mendy return soon, I do not want Real Madrid to be eliminated from the Champions League since, without the name, the competition becomes less interesting.
However, Manchester City is considered to be the favorite for the Champions League this season. But winning the Champions League title is always challenging. First, if you want to win the Champions League, you must have a consistent performance throughout the season. Champions League title is impossible to win if performance is erratic. If Haaland suffers an injury, City's performance will not be stable. Guardiola doesn't have a worthy replacement. They traded Alvarez this offseason. However, if Haaland is injury free this season, City have the potential to dominate the Champions League.
We cannot write Real Madrid off this season, I believe that you view Manchester City as the favorite team to win the Champions League because of the opponents they dominated this season. If Real Madrid defeated their league opponents in the same way that Manchester City did, I believe people would still consider them the favorite team. However, Manchester City were consistent in their games throughout all competitions last season, but they were unlucky to be eliminated in the Champions League by Real Madrid. You are right, Guardiola cannot rely on Haaland as a striker this season because his injury will have an impact on the team performance. Guardiola sold Alvarez to Atletico Madrid and has no striker to replace him, so he must get another top striker because no one can tell whether Haaland will be injured this season or not.
I personally will not always be fixated only on Ancelotti who managed to get five Champions League trophies because after all, Ancelotti also only succeeded when he was the manager of top teams like Real Madrid and Milan. But, when Ancelotti became the manager of other middle teams and some were also still top teams in different leagues, but in reality Ancelotti did not even succeed in improving the quality of the team in other teams in different leagues. Therefore, I think whether Real Madrid will succeed or not in the Champions League this season, it still seems to prioritize team performance first and cannot rely on just a few parties or players.
But indeed, when it comes to the Champions League and Real Madrid it is like something that is difficult to separate. Because after all, even though Real Madrid did not have good results in the domestic league but in fact, Real Madrid always managed to get good results in the Champions League and even, managed to get the trophy too. But I think this season might be more difficult, because with the implementation of the new format then of course it will make teams like Real Madrid also get different challenges, so there is still no guarantee for Real Madrid to succeed this season.
But indeed, when it comes to the Champions League and Real Madrid it is like something that is difficult to separate. Because after all, even though Real Madrid did not have good results in the domestic league but in fact, Real Madrid always managed to get good results in the Champions League and even, managed to get the trophy too. But I think this season might be more difficult, because with the implementation of the new format then of course it will make teams like Real Madrid also get different challenges, so there is still no guarantee for Real Madrid to succeed this season.
Real Madrid just changes whenever they are playing in the Champions League, at least that has been the case for the past few years. Whatever happens in the league or other games, they just turn up by a notch in the UCL. Well, a lot of people did question Ancelotti's tactics, but it wins them games, right? So as long as you are winning trophies, all these questions just die down.
Actually, Ancelotti is a manager who has been really lucky at times, all the comebacks that they had, there were a great amount of luck involved in them. Yes, in football you need luck, but to get lucky every time your team is behind? That's some voodoo shit bro.
If you ask me about the upcoming season, I somehow think that they won't get lucky this time around. Something will happen, and they will go out from the UCL without reaching the finals. I can be horribly wrong, but I tend to believe they really can't make it.
For this upcoming season, who knows whether Real Madrid might find themselves lucky to repeat the same thing since they have Mbappe to strengthen the team formation.
Shall we look at Real Madrid's opponents and fixture in league phase? 
Dortmund and Liverpool look like the biggest challenges. The name of the previous CL finale was Dortmund - Real Madrid you know. Dortmund lost maybe but that was a big success for them anyway. When it comes to Liverpool, they have started the season really strong with Arne Slot in the PL. I can't wait to watch them in the CL. They haven't made much change in the squad but a new manager and a fresh journey.
I would love to say Milan also but they look terrible for now. Fonseca still needs time seemingly. Pioli was managing better than this. Atalanta are the last champions of the Europa League. However Real Madrid have already beaten them once in the Super Cup.
Atalanta last season could indeed be a strong challenger. But I don't think Atalanta can expect too much this season. And so does AC Milan. Milan started the season quite badly with their new coach, Fonseca. So I don't think many people will want to bet on them this season. Because that would be very risky. So I think the real challenges for Real Madrid are only Dortmund and Liverpool. Dortmund surprised us all last season and it is not impossible that this season they will also make the same surprise. Meanwhile, Liverpool looks as strong as last season. Arne Slot managed to maintain the strength established by Klopp at Liverpool. With a slight change in strategy, I think Liverpool could become the biggest threat to Real Madrid. But of course I will still favor Real Madrid when it comes to all matches in the UCL. Dortmund and Liverpool look like the biggest challenges. The name of the previous CL finale was Dortmund - Real Madrid you know. Dortmund lost maybe but that was a big success for them anyway. When it comes to Liverpool, they have started the season really strong with Arne Slot in the PL. I can't wait to watch them in the CL. They haven't made much change in the squad but a new manager and a fresh journey.
I would love to say Milan also but they look terrible for now. Fonseca still needs time seemingly. Pioli was managing better than this. Atalanta are the last champions of the Europa League. However Real Madrid have already beaten them once in the Super Cup.
Shall we look at Real Madrid's opponents and fixture in league phase?
Dortmund and Liverpool look like the biggest challenges. The name of the previous CL finale was Dortmund - Real Madrid you know. Dortmund lost maybe but that was a big success for them anyway. When it comes to Liverpool, they have started the season really strong with Arne Slot in the PL. I can't wait to watch them in the CL. They haven't made much change in the squad but a new manager and a fresh journey.
I would love to say Milan also but they look terrible for now. Fonseca still needs time seemingly. Pioli was managing better than this. Atalanta are the last champions of the Europa League. However Real Madrid have already beaten them once in the Super Cup.
The rest of the matches look more winnable for Real Madrid. Maybe Stuttgart would be the biggest challenge among them.
Dortmund and Liverpool look like the biggest challenges. The name of the previous CL finale was Dortmund - Real Madrid you know. Dortmund lost maybe but that was a big success for them anyway. When it comes to Liverpool, they have started the season really strong with Arne Slot in the PL. I can't wait to watch them in the CL. They haven't made much change in the squad but a new manager and a fresh journey.
I would love to say Milan also but they look terrible for now. Fonseca still needs time seemingly. Pioli was managing better than this. Atalanta are the last champions of the Europa League. However Real Madrid have already beaten them once in the Super Cup.
The rest of the matches look more winnable for Real Madrid. Maybe Stuttgart would be the biggest challenge among them.
Can’t believe the CL starts again next week. I hate the new format but no point complaining. It’s by far the most prestigious trophy to win in club football.
I will be fully behind Arne Slot and the Mighty Red Men. I think we can do well this season, who knows how far we could go. We are one of the teams capable of winning it though, with fortress Anfield on our side.
You don't worry about the new format, because Liverpool will always be ready to perform optimally. After all Arne Slot is very steady in facing his opponents. Based on the schedule, Liverpool will visit Milan headquarters and in terms of Head to Head we don't need to worry that Liverpool both at home and away are still superior. Moreover in Arne Slot hands so far we have not found any vulnerable gaps in each line. With the current squad capital, we are much more ready than any club including the host Milan.I will be fully behind Arne Slot and the Mighty Red Men. I think we can do well this season, who knows how far we could go. We are one of the teams capable of winning it though, with fortress Anfield on our side.
Anfield became Milan nightmare in their last match with Liverpool.
Arne Slot has so far still been able to bring Liverpool to a very impressive performance in the premier League, even though they didn't bring in many players in the transfer market, their performance in the league has been very impressive, so I think the match against Milan won't be a difficult match for them, especially Milan still hasn't found its best performance with Fonsesca.
Head to Head Milan vs Liverpool:
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Even the dealers gave the biggest opportunity for Manchester City to be the champion in the Champions League this season, in terms of Real Madrid even in second place after Manchester City. This became something natural because at their previous meetings Manchester City also defeated Inter Milan in the final.I agreed with you, even though the dealer sided with Manchester City, it did not mean they would easily defeat Inter Milan. Inter Milan is one of the good teams, last season they also won the championship in Serie A. This was the meeting of the two teams that won their local league. Of course what we hope is that they will be able to present a very interesting game for us to enjoy for 90 minutes in normal time.
The fact that Manchester City has the best odds here to win the Champions League is not surprising. I have checked it and it is around 3.8, which I think is neither too high nor too low. But it's still damn risky to go for it as the numbers speak for themselves. Manchester City is trying hard to win it for over a decade now and they were only able to win it once. But some of the odds are quite interesting. Arsenal for example is about 9.0 while Bayern Munich is around 13.0. I am not convinced whether there is any justification for that difference. I think Arsenal against Bayern Munich in the final rounds of the Champions League would be a 50:50 game.
Man City vs Inter
Manchester City vs Inter Milan will meet in the first match in the Champions League on Thursday, this is one of the matches that caught my attention because these two clubs are Champions League finalists in the 2022/23 season and Manchester City who won the Champions League and Inter Milan became runners up and they will meet earlier this season.
Manchester City will certainly be more favored in this match because Man City is in its best form.
The bookies give lower odds to Man City because we can already predict that Man City will be more favored to win against Inter Milan, oh yes for the match to be held at the Etihad stadium betting on Man City's victory is the right choice.
here are the odds:
There is no doubt Champions league is the biggest trophy in football and it’s more exciting and most anticipated game in football. Liverpool has been on a great form this season and I think that’s a good start from them and hope they continue with this form. The CL is going to be very competitive this season due to many reasons, the fact that some top teams are in good form is enough to clarify how interesting this season’s Champions league would go. The previous champions of CL are also in a good form, and with Kylian mbappe on the team, their performance is unpredictable.
Liverpool has a new look this season because they have a new coach and he will want to make his presence felt at the champions league. Liverpool has not done very well in the champions league since they last won the champions league but things might be different this season. Liverpool first game is against Milan and I do not see any problem with them defeating Milan. Having a good start to the season can boost the confidence of the players and I know that is what Arne Slot will want for the players. About Real Madrid, they do not have to be in a good form for them to be top picks. Their performance can not be unpredictable, they might not be winning in La liga but when it comes to the champions league, they are going to put on a performance that is going to make other clubs to be scared of them.
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