UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 1081.

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Quote from: Pab on September 30, 2019, 04:31:21 PM

Bayern is better than Spurs only on paper .Totenham has slow season start but EPL is much much more competitive than Bundesliga. Spurs are favorite to me not very strong but favorite
Bayern defense is not so rock solid. All together most safe bet is above 2.5
By my opinion Spurs will win or will be drawn

City -Dinamo minimum 3-0 or even more.I am sure City will like to score some goals to make his fans happy
So maybe little risky over 3.5

Bayern Munich are only impressive when it comes to the Bundesliga and without a doubt this is now the same team that won the Champions League some time ago. Sure they have some impressive players but it seems there is lack of cohesion among the team and I thought that Niko Kovac would have sorted this by now since he has been at the helm for quite some time.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on September 30, 2019, 12:41:22 PM

I am going to bet for Bayern Munchen in this match.

Bayern barely managed to win against the worst team in the Bundesliga last saturday so, we might be in for a surprise tomorrow, who knows...Still, best of luck.

Quote from: Murat on September 30, 2019, 02:19:38 PM

Zidane dropped Bale & James for upcoming clash agaisnt Club Brugge. Good news is Isco and Marcelo are back after injury.

"Good news"? As a Real Madrid fan I'll say that this is by far the worst news I've read this month Undecided

Zidane just dropped our two best players so far this season just to have an ex-footballer like Isco on the team...That's actually very alarming.

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Bayern is better than Spurs only on paper .Totenham has slow season start but EPL is much much more competitive than Bundesliga. Spurs are favorite to me not very strong but favorite
Bayern defense is not so rock solid. All together most safe bet is above 2.5
By my opinion Spurs will win or will be drawn

City -Dinamo minimum 3-0 or even more.I am sure City will like to score some goals to make his fans happy
So maybe little risky over 3.5

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Zidane dropped Bale & James for upcoming clash agaisnt Club Brugge. Good news is Isco and Marcelo are back after injury. I hope Vinicius would get some match time. Hazard needs to score goal and boost his confidence. Areola can be tested on match like this.

I will bet for Madrid & would love to see couple of goals. My prediction is 4-0 in the favour of R Madrid.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on September 30, 2019, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 30, 2019, 10:24:42 AM

Spurs vs Bayern is probably the big game tomorrow, right? Any early comments about this match? Given their current form in the league, one could think that Tottenham stands no chance against the germans, but I have a feeling they'll put up a good fight tomorrow. Btw, bookies are favoring Bayern.

I am going to bet for Bayern Munchen in this match.
Tottenham is still in confusion and they seem to be in an unstable form.
In my opinion, we are going to see many goals scored and Bayern taking the win in the end.

Well, I honestly wouldn´t bet to much on an away-win here. I am a bit biased (anti-Bayern) but still playing on english ground haven´t been that tasty for hungry Bavarians in the past and the bookies already include the recent form of both teams to their odds to make the away side favorites, I wouldn´t touch the odds for Bayern with the risk of a draw involved.

Keep in mind a draw at White Hard Lane and a win at home in the 2nd leg will make them winning the group comfortably already, so there is no need for high risk to go for the 3 points tomorrow.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 30, 2019, 10:24:42 AM

Spurs vs Bayern is probably the big game tomorrow, right? Any early comments about this match? Given their current form in the league, one could think that Tottenham stands no chance against the germans, but I have a feeling they'll put up a good fight tomorrow. Btw, bookies are favoring Bayern.

I am going to bet for Bayern Munchen in this match.
Tottenham is still in confusion and they seem to be in an unstable form.
In my opinion, we are going to see many goals scored and Bayern taking the win in the end.

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PSG is not a bad team, they do have good players, I feel like their problem is with their coach. I doubt Thomas Tuchel can manage at this level, he coached Dortmund and they were not bad but he got a good Dortmund team at his hands that exceeded expectations, now he has a huge team with a lot of money spent and the expectations are higher so he failed.

He doesn't even have a system we can call "Thomas system" like all the other big ones, Guardiola has his own system, he implements that wherever he goes, Mourinho has his park the bus, even Klopp has his sides to center system somehow. Thomas is not at that level, I feel like if they were coached by someone greater than Thomas like Klopp then they would have easier time going further but as it is right now I doubt that will happen.

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Quote from: Coyster on September 30, 2019, 10:38:05 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 30, 2019, 10:24:42 AM

Spurs vs Bayern is probably the big game tomorrow, right? Any early comments about this match? Given their current form in the league, one could think that Tottenham stands no chance against the germans, but I have a feeling they'll put up a good fight tomorrow. Btw, bookies are favoring Bayern.

Bayern are obviously the better side on "paper", but you and i know that for so many years Bayern Munich have struggled for form and consistency, especially in the premier league.
Spurs' form in last seasons champions league is also another thing to consider, they played so well, especially when they met the bigger teams.

This match to me definitely doesn't hold any favorites, I'll be predicting a draw in this game, the two teams score goals, so it'll be most probably a 2-2 draw, but for sure goals would light up this encounter.

right, above the paper bayern more superior than spurs, bayern in previous UCL matches they performed very well,
most likely Bayern could win this match by one goal difference.
I even doubt if Spurs are able to hold a draw because Bayern is in good form.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on September 30, 2019, 10:24:42 AM

Spurs vs Bayern is probably the big game tomorrow, right? Any early comments about this match? Given their current form in the league, one could think that Tottenham stands no chance against the germans, but I have a feeling they'll put up a good fight tomorrow. Btw, bookies are favoring Bayern.

Bayern are obviously the better side on "paper", but you and i know that for so many years Bayern Munich have struggled for form and consistency, especially in the premier league.
Spurs' form in last seasons champions league is also another thing to consider, they played so well, especially when they met the bigger teams.

This match to me definitely doesn't hold any favorites, I'll be predicting a draw in this game, the two teams score goals, so it'll be most probably a 2-2 draw, but for sure goals would light up this encounter.

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Quote from: djsugar on September 30, 2019, 09:30:11 AM

Last year PSG were the favourites to go through against United but surrendered a two goal advantage at home, with a tougher opposition it would have been even worse.

In their defense their loss to Man United last season was a very unlucky one. They has the game in their hands and it slipped right through. The game could have easily gone in their favour.

They seem to be lacking an extra ingredient that would push them to the UCL title. Buy we saw teams like Ajax and Tottenham with no recent success in the competition go far last season. So maybe luck is that little extra they need.

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Quote from: senne on September 30, 2019, 09:15:07 AM

I don't think Dinamo Zagreb has any chance against Man City. They are playing some really good football at the moment. Also Aguero was given rest at the weekend and I think he will definitely start with Bernardo silva and sterling. A really easy win for Man City in this fixture.

Back in 1999 Dinamo played 0:0 away against arguably best Man Utd team ever.

Just an example how good that Man Utd was-few months before that game they won Champions League in that crazy game against Bayern, and 1999/2000 season they finished with 18 points against 2nd team, Arsenal.

While chances are not great of course and City is very good team, anything can happen in 1 game. City might underestimate Dinamo, they might have bad game, Dinamo might be a abit lucky. With all this combined surprise is possible.

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Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:09:33 AM

I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Are you planning to go for under 4.5 or 5.5 goals? If so, I wouldn't get my hopes up, at home the Citizens are a juggernaut and they're capable of winning by a bigger scoreline. If I were to bet on this match, I would pick either BTTS (the current City defence can sometimes be a bit unpredictable) or both halves over 1.5 goals.

Spurs vs Bayern is probably the big game tomorrow, right? Any early comments about this match? Given their current form in the league, one could think that Tottenham stands no chance against the germans, but I have a feeling they'll put up a good fight tomorrow. Btw, bookies are favoring Bayern.

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Quote from: rizkyrz on September 30, 2019, 08:33:30 AM

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PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.

This PSG has a very good squad in every position but when they play at UCL their appearance in my opinion is slightly decreased. because of that, they haven't been able to get to the semifinal stage.

Even though PSG have invested in their midfield ,they are very big bottle jobs when it comes to the knockout stage. I don't see them getting past teams like Atletico, Bayern, Juventus,City and Liverpool. I would call these teams have a better chance than PSG. Last year PSG were the favourites to go through against United but surrendered a two goal advantage at home, with a tougher opposition it would have been even worse.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 30, 2019, 08:59:08 AM

Only chance tomorrow for Dinamo is fact that some defense players in Manchester are injured and can't play.

I think that MC has adequate substitutions for each position, so the absence of two defensive players is almost no advantage for Dinamo. You probably think on Aymeric Laporte and John Stones, but I do not know how long they have been injured.

MC is currently machine for goals, and I doubt Dinamo can leave home without at least three goals in their net which would be no shame. But every team has its bad day and bad luck, so even though the chances are very small, no one should be written off in advance.

Decent preview about this game: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-city/champions-league/preview/preview-man-city-vs-dinamo-zagreb-prediction-team-news-lineups_373330.html

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 30, 2019, 08:59:08 AM

Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:27:24 AM

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Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:09:33 AM

What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase

)? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

Yeah, you're probably right. If it was the first game, and Man City underestimated Dinamo then maybe (but only MAYBE) Dinamo would have a chance to draw against them. But since they saw what Dinamo did in the first game against Atalanta, I don't think they will underestimate them. But they could rest their key players...

I think that Dinamo have much better chance with Manchester in the last match in the group, in Zagreb.
I'm sure that Manchester will already secure first place in the group before this match and I think they will rest main players for other important games in national championship.
Only chance tomorrow for Dinamo is fact that some defense players in Manchester are injured and can't play.

I don't think Dinamo Zagreb has any chance against Man City. They are playing some really good football at the moment. Also Aguero was given rest at the weekend and I think he will definitely start with Bernardo silva and sterling. A really easy win for Man City in this fixture.

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Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:27:24 AM

Quote from: steveabrahams on September 30, 2019, 08:21:38 AM

Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:09:33 AM

What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase

)? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

Yeah, you're probably right. If it was the first game, and Man City underestimated Dinamo then maybe (but only MAYBE) Dinamo would have a chance to draw against them. But since they saw what Dinamo did in the first game against Atalanta, I don't think they will underestimate them. But they could rest their key players...

I think that Dinamo have much better chance with Manchester in the last match in the group, in Zagreb.
I'm sure that Manchester will already secure first place in the group before this match and I think they will rest main players for other important games in national championship.
Only chance tomorrow for Dinamo is fact that some defense players in Manchester are injured and can't play.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 30, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.

This PSG has a very good squad in every position but when they play at UCL their appearance in my opinion is slightly decreased. because of that, they haven't been able to get to the semifinal stage.

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Quote from: steveabrahams on September 30, 2019, 08:21:38 AM

Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:09:33 AM

What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase

)? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

Yeah, you're probably right. If it was the first game, and Man City underestimated Dinamo then maybe (but only MAYBE) Dinamo would have a chance to draw against them. But since they saw what Dinamo did in the first game against Atalanta, I don't think they will underestimate them. But they could rest their key players...

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Quote from: slackovic on September 30, 2019, 08:09:33 AM

What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase

)? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

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Quote from: yoseph on September 30, 2019, 08:01:10 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on September 30, 2019, 07:43:50 AM

PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.

Thats why it is very important when the domestic leagues every club plays in is very competitive, when there is a lot of competition in the local leagues, the clubs strive to do better each season and they better themselves as a result. PSG will undoubtedly win the Ligue 1 title again and the only place where they seem to be challenged is in the Champions League and that is not enough.

It is true that Lique 1 is not that tough compared to the Spanish, EPL and Bundesliga but it is maybe a blessing on PSG to at least stay healthy. Last season was a big big disaster for PSG. Given an easier Lique 1 then playing time can be lessened on some key players. UEFA is the main goal here. A healthy PSG squad is a minimum quarter finals level of a team.

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