UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 198.

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Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.

Exactly, Liverpool has demonstrated a good record that show that they will definitely get to final in this tournament. Villarreal cannot stop Liverpool not to enter Final because Liverpool team, has what it takes to defeat Villarreal 3-0 to prove to their fans that this UEFA champion league title belong to them in this season. Real Madrid has proven to their fans that they are more stronger than any other teams, for the victory they got from Chelsea for semi final. Manchester city will use all their power and tactics to defeat Real Madrid to stand for final.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on April 24, 2022, 03:35:39 PM

Quote from: perla on April 24, 2022, 09:01:52 AM

Manchester City have a better team collective and in my view also a better coach. But Manchester doesn't have a top striker like Benzema. In fact, de Bruyne is City's star player, but Madrid has Modric in midfield. It could well be that City will go out against Madrid. If you can beat PSG with Madrid, you can beat City. They have not always convinced, not even in the Champions League. The last time it was all difficult against Atletico and Atletico should have won that game, while they played with 10 men.

The same was said about Manchester City last season, and yet they won nothing.

This season especially, most recently, Real Madrid has been considered an "underdog" against PSG and then Chelsea but look who went through. The more the so-called better teams think they can beat Real Madrid. The less likely they will go through.

Man City has won their last three duels! The bookmakers are on the side of City, x1.4 and falling... It's true that they are unlucky in CL, and they can't win anything, but can that change this year?!
Many of us underestimated Real this year, I thought PSG would knock them out, especially after the first game! I honestly thought Chelsea had a chance to knock them out, and that didn't happen either! And now the same thing is happening against City... I am not sure what to think, for sure Real is playing good football, and I believe they will give their best in the first game!

With such nice odds on Real, I am thinking about trying a bet on them! They won Chealse, I guess they can do the same with City! After all, City didn't show much against Atletico!

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Will Manchester United ever make it up to the champion leagues as the no longer on the top 5 on the EPL table, the lose to asernal today in the premier league have shown the club weakness.

I doubt if Manchester United can make it up to champions league with their recent performance. They lost to arsenal in yesterday day game and it made them to go down low. The way Manchester United are playing it looks very difficult to predict if Manchester United can come back strong any moment from now.

Manchester United right now have lost all hope to secure a champions league spot, they didn’t take advantage of the opportunity to rank up to top 4. After the loss against Arsenal, it was obvious Manchester United won’t secure a spot for the champions league next season. They now have a new manager we’ll manage them from next season, we await what he got to see if the team will come back stronger next season.

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The possibility of Manchester United to enter the Champions League next season is very small even I say it is impossible after they have gone through many bad weeks, now the competition for 4th place in the standings is only fighting over 2 teams between Arsenal and Tottenham.

United will definitely not be at champions league next year, no possibility at all. They will have to fix a situation until next year and then they will try to be better next year. Champions league is not something you could get in with that year's team, you get in with previous year's team. So, you could be the greatest team this year, the best ever team, with your league, your domestic cup, champions league, every possible cup, and then you could be losing all your group matches in the champions league one year later just because you lost all your good players. This is why I have to say that there is really nothing you should be focusing on this year, care about next year as well.

I don't think such a thing threatens clubs like Manchester City, Liverpool or Real Madrid. This can be said with some reservations about Villarreal, but I am also not sure that it is fully likely there. As for the situation with Manchester United, then it is not entirely clear what the club is taking care of now, because it has already been officially announced that a new head coach will come, who will lead a new policy regarding the style of play and specifically the players who will implement it in practice. The $200 million allocated to a new coach for a transfer company in the summer is clearly not needed for these new players to then sit in deep reserve on the bench. Therefore, I still think that Manchester United should focus on getting into the Champions League for next season or simply improving their tournament positions, rather than completely stop playing, waiting for a new coach to come to the team after the end of the season.

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Even in the previous few seasons it was like that because even though they never won, they were still superior even though the bitter reality always ended for Man. City Cheesy

I don't think this season the result will be much different, I don't know why even if they won against Madrid but I'm pretty sure they can never win the Champions League.

Actually I'm also not sure about this, but let's see what breakthrough will be brought by Manchester City this season in the Champions League, whether the result will be the same as the previous seasons too because what remains now are the strongest clubs all in the League.
Real Madrid, Liverpool and Villarreal, the three of them are the strongest this season so they can still survive until now.

Man City definitely don't want to repeat the same mistake, they've reached the semifinals now and I'm sure they will try to be winners this year.
But unfortunately the opponents they face are Real Madrid who have experience in the Champions League competition. Real Madrid have
won 13 Champions League trophies and they will try to win the Champions League trophy this year. It is difficult to predict between Man City and
Real Madrid who will qualify for the final, maybe we will get an idea if we look at the results of the first leg. For Liverpool and Villarreal it seems
the majority of people will agree that Liverpool are more deserving of qualifying for the final. Because Liverpool are superior in every way,
so Villarreal has very little chance of qualifying for the final. But I agree that the 4 teams that qualified for the semifinals are teams that have
extraordinary performance, because it is not easy to reach the semifinals. Must beat a lot of strong teams first to qualify for the semifinals.

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Quote from: bekti3 on April 24, 2022, 03:42:02 PM

Even in the previous few seasons it was like that because even though they never won, they were still superior even though the bitter reality always ended for Man. City Cheesy

I don't think this season the result will be much different, I don't know why even if they won against Madrid but I'm pretty sure they can never win the Champions League.

Actually I'm also not sure about this, but let's see what breakthrough will be brought by Manchester City this season in the Champions League, whether the result will be the same as the previous seasons too because what remains now are the strongest clubs all in the League.
Real Madrid, Liverpool and Villarreal, the three of them are the strongest this season so they can still survive until now.

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Quote from: xmonkeyx on April 24, 2022, 03:54:23 AM

The possibility of Manchester United to enter the Champions League next season is very small even I say it is impossible after they have gone through many bad weeks, now the competition for 4th place in the standings is only fighting over 2 teams between Arsenal and Tottenham.

United will definitely not be at champions league next year, no possibility at all. They will have to fix a situation until next year and then they will try to be better next year. Champions league is not something you could get in with that year's team, you get in with previous year's team.

So, you could be the greatest team this year, the best ever team, with your league, your domestic cup, champions league, every possible cup, and then you could be losing all your group matches in the champions league one year later just because you lost all your good players. This is why I have to say that there is really nothing you should be focusing on this year, care about next year as well.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on April 24, 2022, 03:35:39 PM

Quote from: perla on April 24, 2022, 09:01:52 AM

Manchester City have a better team collective and in my view also a better coach. But Manchester doesn't have a top striker like Benzema. In fact, de Bruyne is City's star player, but Madrid has Modric in midfield. It could well be that City will go out against Madrid. If you can beat PSG with Madrid, you can beat City. They have not always convinced, not even in the Champions League. The last time it was all difficult against Atletico and Atletico should have won that game, while they played with 10 men.

The same was said about Manchester City last season, and yet they won nothing.

This season especially, most recently, Real Madrid has been considered an "underdog" against PSG and then Chelsea but look who went through. The more the so-called better teams think they can beat Real Madrid. The less likely they will go through.

Even in the previous few seasons it was like that because even though they never won, they were still superior even though the bitter reality always ended for Man. City Cheesy

I don't think this season the result will be much different, I don't know why even if they won against Madrid but I'm pretty sure they can never win the Champions League.

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Quote from: perla on April 24, 2022, 09:01:52 AM

Manchester City have a better team collective and in my view also a better coach. But Manchester doesn't have a top striker like Benzema. In fact, de Bruyne is City's star player, but Madrid has Modric in midfield. It could well be that City will go out against Madrid. If you can beat PSG with Madrid, you can beat City. They have not always convinced, not even in the Champions League. The last time it was all difficult against Atletico and Atletico should have won that game, while they played with 10 men.

The same was said about Manchester City last season, and yet they won nothing.

This season especially, most recently, Real Madrid has been considered an "underdog" against PSG and then Chelsea but look who went through. The more the so-called better teams think they can beat Real Madrid. The less likely they will go through.

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Quote from: perla on April 24, 2022, 09:01:52 AM

Manchester City have a better team collective and in my view also a better coach. But Manchester doesn't have a top striker like Benzema. In fact, de Bruyne is City's star player, but Madrid has Modric in midfield. It could well be that City will go out against Madrid. If you can beat PSG with Madrid, you can beat City. They have not always convinced, not even in the Champions League. The last time it was all difficult against Atletico and Atletico should have won that game, while they played with 10 men.

Manchester City have faster football and Real Madrid have more aggressive football and it's a question of whether speed or aggression will be more effective during the game. I think one of the matches will be a draw, because for me they are equal teams, if Manchester City will go on, we may be waiting again for the English final, which is unlikely to please many, it's boring, such a match we can watch during the season, watching the English premier league

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Villarreal may unseat Liverpool because Villarreal is well formed this season and the club has reformed the tactics and are ready to take on any club no matter the club involves Manchester city may not be a match for Villarreal at any stage but Liverpool will have a difficult time in the round with Villarreal let see how it goes.

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Liverpool will really need to watch out for a surprising result against Villarreal. They shouldn't see this matchup as an easy thing for them. And I have no doubt that they won't too. Liverpool have been playing a really impressive football in the Champions League. They are one of the teams that deserve the title so much. I won't be expecting any big mistake from them in Anfield firstly. In case they get a win by at least a two-goal difference, I will be considering it as an almost guaranteed finale for Liverpool.

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Liverpool and Villarreal are not good match at all Liverpool will most definitely trash Villarreal in the play as their have repeatedly won against more stronger clubs. Let see how the championship semi final will look like.

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Quote from: alegotardo on April 24, 2022, 07:44:30 AM

Manchester United's situation is really complicated!
I still believe that they can qualify as the next games tend to be against weaker teams, but with the emotional state of the players shaken this should get a little more complicated.

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It seems difficult to expect them to appear in the Champions League. Maybe even in the European league they could not qualify. They are currently in 6th position and maybe they could even be threatened by West Ham who are below them. Ronaldo has a contract until next season but I heard he was allowed to leave by their new coach. If ronaldo wants to appear in Europe of course that's his chance to go. But are there any clubs interested in the aging him? Besides that at Man United he also did not perform as well as before.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 24, 2022, 06:08:03 AM

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I agree with you.
For many fans Bayern was a big favorite to win this competition, just as Barcelona was a big favorite to win the Europa League.
We all know what happened in the end.
European competitions are very long and difficult, and it's not easy to play every game at a top level.
You can play perfectly all season and then play one game a little weaker and drop out of the competition.
Ask Guardiola and Manchester City what they think of this? Grin

Often the winner in the end is not the best team but the most prepared team.
Villareal is a very difficult and dangerous team and Liverpool will have to play two perfect games to win.

Liverpool needs to play good football if they want to beat Villareal. They might not be the best team in La Liga but they are obviously showing good performance in the Champions League and Liverpool can not underestimate their opponent in any way.

Otherwise, they might face the same consequences as Bayern Munich did. And I am not saying that Bayern Munich underestimated their opponent. They actually played with their full strength and still lost.

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Quote from: rozak on April 24, 2022, 02:59:20 AM

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I no longer see the possibility of Manchester United qualifying for the Champions League. They have played one match more than Arsenal, but are still 6 points behind. Most likely Manchester United will be sixth in the table at the end of the season.
There is no shortage of talented and star players in the United squad. Their main weakness is their match strategy, and lack of bonding among the players. If the coaches do not change, their performance will not improve next season.

Moreover, Man United still has tough team opponents like Chelsea and Liverpool. Man United will be difficult to get into the top 4. there is even a possibility that Man United will be displaced by West Ham if they do not improve their performance.
This season has been pretty bad for Man United. they look difficult in winning the match against an equally strong team.

Manchester United has been really inconsistent to make any progress this season. Yes, I also have doubted them to finish in the top five. The problem is the teams that are in front of them are not going to drop points in a way that helps Manchester United right now. Their play style seems not good and playing without any chemistry, just passing the ball without any target. Cristiano Ronaldo alone cannot do everything for the team.

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Manchester City are going to have a really tough match against Real Madrid in Etihad. Maybe they will have the most ball possession in this match as usual. But it would still be very difficult to win against a this much strong Real Madrid. And if Real Madrid manage to score the first goal of the match somehow, then Manchester City will be in a bigger trouble. Even a draw can be counted as advantageous for Real Madrid here. Because they would show their real performance in Santiago Bernabeu.

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You are right. Liverpool had to use their full strength to win. Villarreal is a very tactical team. They will probably apply a new strategy against Liverpool and will definitely want to win. Since the first leg was Liverpool's home match. So Liverpool must win the home match. If Liverpool is not able to win the home match, then maybe they will not be able to go to the final.

Liverpool still has to face Everton tomorrow in the EPL match. Everton is a team that almost slipped into the relegation zone. Liverpool has the opportunity to rest their players in this match to be better prepared for the first leg against Villarreal.
although the Everton game is also important, I think they can handle it by playing it safe enough. Liverpool has the motivation to get 2 trophies this season. and it is very possible to achieve at this time. Hopefully, Liverpool can perform optimally.

Do you really think Klopp will let his players rest and lose the slim chance for the title? I think they will go out with the A team and play brilliantly, Villareal fought strong, their opponents underestimated them and lost but Liverpool will certainly kick them out with no problem.

And as I predicted back then, Klopp has no intention of letting his players rest, because today he has hardly used any alternatives. Still, Liverpool won't play any less seriously against Villareal and I'm sure they will win at least handicap vs. them.

Liverpool is in my opinion already in the finals

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on April 24, 2022, 11:21:53 AM

Can't wait for the semi-final match in the Champions League, both the Manchester City vs Real Madrid match, and the Liverpool vs Villareal match. I want to see how far Villarreal can put up a tight fight for Liverpool. Even though they are not seeded but I still want to see what this representative from Spain will do. But in the end I would still bet on Liverpool to be in the final.

I Think, both match will be interesting. My prediction goes to Manchester city and Liverpool to be in the Final.Manchester played very well this season and City is more strong team than Real Madrid. I Think Liverpool will win easily against villarreal. But Manchester city and Real Madrid match will be hard but Manchester city is favourite.

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The possibility of Manchester United to enter the Champions League next season is very small even I say it is impossible after they have gone through many bad weeks, now the competition for 4th place in the standings is only fighting over 2 teams between Arsenal and Tottenham.

I think England will send Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal/Tottenham. Arsenal and Tottenham are still struggling to finish in the top 4, the difference of two points from Arsenal makes Tottenham still have hope of appearing in the Champions League next season. Meanwhile, Manchester United will certainly find it difficult to catch Arsenal and Tottenham points, because Manchester United have played one game more than Arsenal and Tottenham. Moreover, the next match Manchester United will be met with Chelsea, If Manchester United loses to Chelsea in the 35th game. Manchester United is not only threatened not to appear in the Champions League, they are also in danger of losing their place in the Europa League.

Manchester United has not been consistent at all and the problem is almost all the teams in front of them are quite consistent at the moment and does not really seem to be losing any points anytime soon. or at least not at that amount where Manchester United can benefit from that.

I really don't think Manchester United is going to be able to finish in the top five let alone the top 4. I expect Liverpool to win today against Everton and that is going to put Liverpool and Manchester City in the same amount of points. but Liverpool is going to be ahead in goal difference.

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