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Quote from: nurilham on April 14, 2022, 02:15:26 PM

These lists are logic. Liverpool seems like saving a ticket, although it is still a prediction, but Liverpool may have bigger chance to win against Villareal. Except that the fortune is again in Villareal and they can beat Liverpool as what they did for Bayern. But let us see if there will be a very big surprise or as predicted by many people.
On the other hand, it is still hard to determine between Real Madrid and Man City, which will win.

I personally prefer to watch the final between Liverpool vs Real Madrid Grin

It's hard to predict the match between Madrid and Manchester City, but when I check the odds, Manchester City is the favorite to win the first leg at odds of 1.52 - 4.40 - 5.80. For some reason Real Madrid are not seeded in the first leg of the semi-final, I think playing at home doesn't make Manchester City really able to win the game and Madrid are really a strong team this season.

I think the Liverpool v Manchester City final is the ideal final although Madrid also have a chance.

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Now I see why bookmakers gave the odds for the Real Madrid - Chelsea match like that. Grin

I was giving zero chance for Chelsea to win this game honestly and they proved me really wrong. After seeing their lead by 3-0, I was really shocked. But thankfully, Real Madrid managed to make a comeback on aggregate and eliminate them as a result. I really wanted this Real Madrid to advance to next round honestly. Because they really deserved it and actually even Benzema by himself deserved it.

It's very possible if the next opponent of madrid is a team from Laliga then we can confirm Madrid will go to the final
The reason is that Madrid know very well how teams from LaLiga play because often meet in the local league
Now we are just waiting for the next opponent , is it the winner between Atletico vs City ?

The winner of the Atletico Madrid - Manchester City matchup was going to have another matchup against Real Madrid in the semi finals. And Manchester City made it there. It was not easy though as they were able to eliminate Atletico Madrid by only 1-0 on aggregate. Atletico Madrid are still a very tough team to defeat in the Champions League as always. But their performance in offense is not as good as their defending. This is where they are losing power a lot. And I really wonder which side will be one of the finalists. Manchester City or Real Madrid?

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on April 14, 2022, 01:55:55 PM

Liverpool vs Manchester City
Real Madrid vs Liverpool

These lists are logic. Liverpool seems like saving a ticket, although it is still a prediction, but Liverpool may have bigger chance to win against Villareal. Except that the fortune is again in Villareal and they can beat Liverpool as what they did for Bayern. But let us see if there will be a very big surprise or as predicted by many people.
On the other hand, it is still hard to determine between Real Madrid and Man City, which will win.

I personally prefer to watch the final between Liverpool vs Real Madrid Grin

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on April 14, 2022, 01:47:35 PM

My tip was correct, but it was not difficult. The last minutes of both games were very exciting. 2 goals and both offside, this will not happen a second time. The final i think Manchester City vs. Liverpool, just like in the Premier League. This is a head to head race and it goes on in the Champions League. On 19.04. both played against each other and there was a 2:2, so that became a worthy final.

There are only two possibilities about the team reaching the final in my opinion and maybe something like this:

Liverpool vs Manchester City
Real Madrid vs Liverpool

I don't think Villareal can be expected to beat Liverpool even though Bayern Munich are the unlucky side against them in the quarter-finals. So Villareal will not reach the final and only Liverpool may have an easier way to the final. Still dubious between Madrid and City, they both deserved this season but I think Liverpool and Manchester City finals are to be expected.

It was quite difficult for Villarreal but there is hope considering that bringing down Bayern is not something that is very easy I think so I still hope there will be surprises here.
But indeed I am expecting a rematch between Liverpool and Madrid now Cheesy

In the 2017/2018 season they were in the Final but indeed the Karius incident is still known today and in this season they have a chance to come back to the Final with a quite different squad and game indeed I am expecting this final for now

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Quote from: wmaurik on April 14, 2022, 10:46:00 AM

Quote from: Leo on April 14, 2022, 03:42:55 AM

I love what Pep Guardiola did with the formation, he also parked the bus, if all the teams start to play like athletico in the first football will be of the most boring sport, that first leg from ATM wasn't football no matter how you want to paint it, teams that set up that way should be made to forfeit the match and the opposing team given 3 pts and 3 goals

In this Leg 2 match, Atletico Madrid played better and very much different from what they did in this Leg 1 match.
Atlético Madrid's performance was beyond expectations, many thought they would lose again due to a bad match in the 1st leg but they did something different in this match, they played very well even though there were no goals scored.
although Atletico did not qualify for the semifinals but I appreciate their struggle and they gave a very good game in this second leg.

Atletico Madrid didnt deserve in any minut of both games to go in to the next round. They defended 170/180 minutes of both matches . They started attacking in last 10 minutes of second match and wanted to win the match,this is not how football works no matter who the opponent is you just cannot defend always and not do anything in attack. Man City deserved to win and i hope to see them honestly in the final of UCL.

Actually Atletico Madrid started to attach from the 2nd half and they tried to score at least a goal. I didn't expect such gameplay from Manchester City as they're a strong team. They didn't play well and didn't able to shoot on target.

Atletico Madrid is not a weak team despite their poor performances for some week now. This time around they might have well prepared to play against Manchester City, that was why Manchester city find it difficult to score. Atletico Madrid were more defensive in the second half of the game. Atletico Madrid performance was better than the last game they played with Manchester City.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on April 14, 2022, 01:47:35 PM

My tip was correct, but it was not difficult. The last minutes of both games were very exciting. 2 goals and both offside, this will not happen a second time. The final i think Manchester City vs. Liverpool, just like in the Premier League. This is a head to head race and it goes on in the Champions League. On 19.04. both played against each other and there was a 2:2, so that became a worthy final.

There are only two possibilities about the team reaching the final in my opinion and maybe something like this:

Liverpool vs Manchester City
Real Madrid vs Liverpool

I don't think Villareal can be expected to beat Liverpool even though Bayern Munich are the unlucky side against them in the quarter-finals. So Villareal will not reach the final and only Liverpool may have an easier way to the final. Still dubious between Madrid and City, they both deserved this season but I think Liverpool and Manchester City finals are to be expected.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on April 13, 2022, 12:41:14 PM

…I bet them: Liverpool vs Villareal and Manchester City vs Real Madrid

My tip was correct, but it was not difficult. The last minutes of both games were very exciting. 2 goals and both offside, this will not happen a second time. The final i think Manchester City vs. Liverpool, just like in the Premier League. This is a head to head race and it goes on in the Champions League. On 19.04. both played against each other and there was a 2:2, so that became a worthy final.

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Quote from: wmaurik on April 14, 2022, 10:46:00 AM

In this Leg 2 match, Atletico Madrid played better and very much different from what they did in this Leg 1 match.
Atlético Madrid's performance was beyond expectations, many thought they would lose again due to a bad match in the 1st leg but they did something different in this match, they played very well even though there were no goals scored.
although Atletico did not qualify for the semifinals but I appreciate their struggle and they gave a very good game in this second leg.

It is true that Atletico Madrid had a different playing strategy compared to the first leg, but they have still remained focused on defense and counter-attack despite having seen them take advantage of their chances to build on the attack at times.

Overall I don't think Atletico Madrid has changed at all like the first leg because they only attack when Manchester City lose the ball. They counter-attacked quickly without wanting to linger with possession, but unfortunately they failed to score despite seeing them have chances several times. So I applaud their defensive system which was difficult to break in the 2 legs of the quarter-finals, but I don't like some players being rude when frustrated not scoring goals.

Now a tough task awaits Manchester City because Real Madrid is a very tough opponent so far when Benzema plays, but I hope Manchester City can qualify for the final.

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Manchester City made it to the semi finals after having a really boring game. Atletico Madrid were so unable to show a solid performance against them and Manchester City didn't have big problems most of the time. But it was still risky for them as they tried to maintain a 0-0 tie until the end of the game. Manchester City are Real Madrid's opponent in the semi finals now. And I will be favouring Real Madrid to advance in this as I would really like to see Benzema having the prize of his huge effort.

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Benfica really surprised with their brazenness away against Liverpool! Probably no one has played Liverpool like that before this season. Only Milan managed to score 2 goals against Liverpool, so we could say that Benfica set a record by scoring three goals. It will be interesting to see how Liverpool play Villarreal.

I was surprise with Benfica can scoring 3 goal on Anfield Stadium and they have more motivation although have loss first 3-1 before make draw become 3-3, maybe if have draw or loss under 1 goal on first leg will make between Liverpool vs Benfica most interested like Real Madrid vs Chelsea match. I think can't make easy predicting on semifinal between Liverpool vs Villareal because Bayern Munich and Juventus as top team eliminating by Villareal and looks careful for Liverpool.

I think everyone was surprised that Benfica scored so much against Liverpool, even Benfica fans did not believe in such an outcome, and this is not counting the uncounted goals. Benfica looked like the weakest team of this selection, but it was she who gave Liverpool the strongest rebuff. It's been a long time since Liverpool had to work so hard to win.

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Quote from: naira on April 14, 2022, 11:42:11 AM

Benfica really cannot be underestimated. What they have shown us about yesterday game with Liverpool was in the second half. It's a shame if Benfica put the pressure on from the first half maybe the result would have been a little different. Now only the clubs remaining will fight for the Final. So there are only 4 left and it's going to be tougher competition. don't underestimate Villareal who has bigger ambitions.

The last time Villarreal faced Liverpool in Europa League, it was a flawless win without much stress. They aren't match for Liverpool but you know it is semi-final, they wouldn't go down without a proper fight in the match.
Manchester city struggled to qualify yesterday, if not for their first Home match, they wouldn't have made it (PK is 50:50 outcome). Now that we have only Spain and England remaining in the league, let's get some entertainment. Cheesy

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on April 14, 2022, 11:18:54 AM

I sincerely think Benfica were decent last night against Liverpool, they did put up a great fight. It was their first leg performance that let them down otherwise they indeed showed strength and resilience. The game exposed Liverpool flaws with their high line. Klopp will need to sort the highline in subsequent games because if they are been caught by opponents who are not being wasteful in front, Liverpool will surely pay for it. Liverpool did deserve to qualify but it is worthy to note that they might not be lucky every time especially with a strong opponent.

Benfica really cannot be underestimated. What they have shown us about yesterday game with Liverpool was in the second half. It's a shame if Benfica put the pressure on from the first half maybe the result would have been a little different. Now only the clubs remaining will fight for the Final. So there are only 4 left and it's going to be tougher competition. don't underestimate Villareal who has bigger ambitions.

Villarreal is playing so far better than what they play regular. I'm thinking so they have big ambition and they can end the Champion league with a good standing. It is football and any opponent can beat another. Finally, where there is only 4 teams are remaining.

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Quote from: youdacapt on April 14, 2022, 11:51:32 AM

The Champions League tie for the semi finals is a beautiful one lol; it will be fiercely contested. We have leaky Liverpool who faces selfish Villareal; Liverpool conceded 4 goals in the quarter final tie with Benfica, while Villareal conceded just 1 (after defending deep). Can they reciprocate this ? The truth is that Vilareal will score against Liverpool back 4, the question is will Klopp boys score more and succeed where Bayern failed? Time will tell

The ManCity vs Real Madrid tie will be a test of experience and guts, Will Ancelotti flop his tactics or get the edge ? We will find out.

This will be a very interesting match, whether it's Man City vs Real Madrid or Liverpool who have to face Villareal. It's surprising that Villareal can come this far and advance to fight for the final. Always be alert because each team must not make mistakes in the beginning that result in difficulties. Man City must also be able to play optimally, because no doubt Madrid have the motivation in every way to win. Likewise Villareal.

So where should I drop the bet? lol

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Quote from: naira on April 14, 2022, 11:42:11 AM

Quote from: SatoPrincess on April 14, 2022, 11:18:54 AM

I sincerely think Benfica were decent last night against Liverpool, they did put up a great fight. It was their first leg performance that let them down otherwise they indeed showed strength and resilience. The game exposed Liverpool flaws with their high line. Klopp will need to sort the highline in subsequent games because if they are been caught by opponents who are not being wasteful in front, Liverpool will surely pay for it. Liverpool did deserve to qualify but it is worthy to note that they might not be lucky every time especially with a strong opponent.

Benfica really cannot be underestimated. What they have shown us about yesterday game with Liverpool was in the second half. It's a shame if Benfica put the pressure on from the first half maybe the result would have been a little different. Now only the clubs remaining will fight for the Final. So there are only 4 left and it's going to be tougher competition. don't underestimate Villareal who has bigger ambitions.

I've said before that Liverpool won't win even if they play at home, because that seems to be the hallmark of Liverpool. If Liverpool have won in the first leg then in the second leg it is very rare for Liverpool to win, because usually they only get a draw or lose by one goal difference. Now, it happened again and even in the superbru tournament that I participated in, I placed a draw with the score 1-1 and the result was the result because the final result of this match was 3-3. So yeah, I personally can't say that Benfica can play well or not, because it can also be said that Liverpool are no longer aiming for victory so the leniency and small mistakes made by Liverpool players will be very vulnerable to being converted into a goal by Benfica.

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Quote from: onecall123 on April 14, 2022, 09:55:43 AM

we've semi-finalist:
Man City vs. Real Madrid
Liverpool vs. Villarreal

I watched the City vs Atletico game. I thought Atletico did better than that. Manchester City did Atletico a favor by beating them. btw! In this stage of the UCL, both Manchester City and Liverpool represent England, which shows you how far away they are from the other teams in England. Real Madrid just keeps showing that this is their competition, while Villarreal is definitely making waves in Europe as a Spanish team representing the continent.

The Champions League tie for the semi finals is a beautiful one lol; it will be fiercely contested. We have leaky Liverpool who faces selfish Villareal; Liverpool conceded 4 goals in the quarter final tie with Benfica, while Villareal conceded just 1 (after defending deep). Can they reciprocate this ? The truth is that Vilareal will score against Liverpool back 4, the question is will Klopp boys score more and succeed where Bayern failed? Time will tell

The ManCity vs Real Madrid tie will be a test of experience and guts, Will Ancelotti flop his tactics or get the edge ? We will find out.

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Quote from: Joca97 on April 14, 2022, 11:13:14 AM

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Quote from: Leo on April 14, 2022, 03:42:55 AM

I love what Pep Guardiola did with the formation, he also parked the bus, if all the teams start to play like athletico in the first football will be of the most boring sport, that first leg from ATM wasn't football no matter how you want to paint it, teams that set up that way should be made to forfeit the match and the opposing team given 3 pts and 3 goals

In this Leg 2 match, Atletico Madrid played better and very much different from what they did in this Leg 1 match.
Atlético Madrid's performance was beyond expectations, many thought they would lose again due to a bad match in the 1st leg but they did something different in this match, they played very well even though there were no goals scored.
although Atletico did not qualify for the semifinals but I appreciate their struggle and they gave a very good game in this second leg.

Atletico Madrid didnt deserve in any minut of both games to go in to the next round. They defended 170/180 minutes of both matches . They started attacking in last 10 minutes of second match and wanted to win the match,this is not how football works no matter who the opponent is you just cannot defend always and not do anything in attack. Man City deserved to win and i hope to see them honestly in the final of UCL.

10 minutes? They controlled the whole second half of football in Madrid. Tbf if athletico didn't play so defensive and you know, gamble a match, by having attacking football and spreading the pitch. Sure, they may lose and it was clear their passing capabilities are not world class level, but they would have more chance of scoring as well as playing more exciting football. Unlike Benfica, i think athletico will add to their team and not lose star players next season. Instead of being cautious, they have to let the run of of play happen, plus being in the capital of Spain it's not like they can't attract top prospects to the team. I look forward to them next season. City v Madrid though, i think we will see if man City can overcome this obsticle, doubt they will. Then a Liverpool Madrid final. Love the champions league.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on April 14, 2022, 11:18:54 AM

I sincerely think Benfica were decent last night against Liverpool, they did put up a great fight. It was their first leg performance that let them down otherwise they indeed showed strength and resilience. The game exposed Liverpool flaws with their high line. Klopp will need to sort the highline in subsequent games because if they are been caught by opponents who are not being wasteful in front, Liverpool will surely pay for it. Liverpool did deserve to qualify but it is worthy to note that they might not be lucky every time especially with a strong opponent.

Benfica really cannot be underestimated. What they have shown us about yesterday game with Liverpool was in the second half. It's a shame if Benfica put the pressure on from the first half maybe the result would have been a little different. Now only the clubs remaining will fight for the Final. So there are only 4 left and it's going to be tougher competition. don't underestimate Villareal who has bigger ambitions.

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Quote from: coco23 on April 14, 2022, 10:34:49 AM

Quote from: onecall123 on April 14, 2022, 09:55:43 AM

we've semi-finalist:
Man City vs. Real Madrid
Liverpool vs. Villarreal

The roles are clearly distributed in those games, the English teams are the favorites by quite some margin. The Spanish teams will need a good game from their side and a portion of luck to survive this round. Unfortunately this means we might see an all English final. (Sure the English teams are the best in their quality, but somehow I would have preferred an English semi-final instead Wink

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Liverpool to play the final game is almost sure. In the other hand, City will have hard times vs Real Madrid. In the second leg, both teams aren't convincing compared to the first one. City passed ATM with only one goal, it might be due to Simeone tactics but we all know that Real Madrid is better than ATM. Ancelltti should play with a better tactics or else it will be indeed an English finals

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Quote from: Leo on April 14, 2022, 03:42:55 AM

I love what Pep Guardiola did with the formation, he also parked the bus, if all the teams start to play like athletico in the first football will be of the most boring sport, that first leg from ATM wasn't football no matter how you want to paint it, teams that set up that way should be made to forfeit the match and the opposing team given 3 pts and 3 goals

In this Leg 2 match, Atletico Madrid played better and very much different from what they did in this Leg 1 match.
Atlético Madrid's performance was beyond expectations, many thought they would lose again due to a bad match in the 1st leg but they did something different in this match, they played very well even though there were no goals scored.
although Atletico did not qualify for the semifinals but I appreciate their struggle and they gave a very good game in this second leg.

Atletico Madrid didnt deserve in any minut of both games to go in to the next round. They defended 170/180 minutes of both matches . They started attacking in last 10 minutes of second match and wanted to win the match,this is not how football works no matter who the opponent is you just cannot defend always and not do anything in attack. Man City deserved to win and i hope to see them honestly in the final of UCL.

Actually Atletico Madrid started to attach from the 2nd half and they tried to score at least a goal. I didn't expect such gameplay from Manchester City as they're a strong team. They didn't play well and didn't able to shoot on target.

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Quote from: onecall123 on April 14, 2022, 09:55:43 AM

we've semi-finalist:
Man City vs. Real Madrid
Liverpool vs. Villarreal

I watched the City vs Atletico game. I thought Atletico did better than that. Manchester City did Atletico a favor by beating them. btw! In this stage of the UCL, both Manchester City and Liverpool represent England, which shows you how far away they are from the other teams in England. Real Madrid just keeps showing that this is their competition, while Villarreal is definitely making waves in Europe as a Spanish team representing the continent.

This is an ideal semi-final in my opinion, because our semifinal this year has more potential to present an intense match between 4 clubs from different countries, Spain and England, a match between Villareal vs Liverpool, I think it will be a strategy battle between two great coaches so far, namely Unay Emery, who has been known as a specialist coach of the European League, will certainly exert all his abilities in dealing with Klopp strategy, who is a specialist coach of the Champions League so far.
During the madrid vs manchester city matches, we will see a duel that is also no less exciting between the most league champions tittle and a team that has a high desire to win the champions league for the first time this season.

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