UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 254.

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Quote from: mia_houston on April 08, 2022, 03:48:13 AM

Villareal 1-0 win over Bayern Munich did not make Villareal journey safe in the second leg later, Bayern Munich's game in that match was quite bad and they looked too focused on attacking so they were a bit off guard in defense, besides Unay Emery experience in the European League so far make him really understand what he has to do when facing a team as big and great as Bayern Munich, but I think to stop Bayern Munich with scoring 1-0 at Villareal is not enough, because it is certain that Bayern Munich will probably play better and score more goals a lot when playing in the allianz arena later.

That seems to be true and I personally also have more confidence in Bayern Munich to win in the second leg, so that what remains are only big and strong clubs like Manchester City, Liverpool, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
And it will be very interesting if the four clubs compete to qualify for the next round or to be in the Champions League final this time.

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Quote from: wildan88 on April 08, 2022, 05:42:08 PM

If you look at the statistics, Real Madrid is not the top favourite. However, we can assume that they will advance to the semi-finals. Real Madrid still has a strong team, with players who are among the absolute best in the world.

Are you still talking about the previous match?
It is true that Chelsea stats are better than Real Madrid stats. But the stats are only about numbers, can't determine the winner. Real Madrid doesn't need the stats, they only need goals to qualify for the next stage.

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There is currently no striker in better form than Benzema. This Real Madrid can actually beat anyone.

Do you mean in Real Madrid? Of course, no other CF is better or as good as Benzema. That's why Real Madrid needs to sign a new CF, to anticipate when Benzema is injured or plays underperformance. This situation is very possible to happen since the season lasts many months.

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Real Madrid have really started to become one of the strongest candidates of the Champions League title now. Because they eliminated PSG by a great work first. And now, they are very close to eliminating the last champion team of the tournament, Chelsea. And their next opponent in the semi finals is going to be Manchester City or Atletico Madrid. Most probably, it would be Manchester City. But whichever of them make it there, I'm still going to favour Real Madrid as I've been very impressed by their effort.

Please, Real Madrid aren't any candidates for the title. They had an easy again against Chelsea which even them were surprised. Some silly mistakes were made by the players and real Madrid team seize their opportunity and scored. And if They were to progress to the next stage and was to play Manchester City, they'll easily be destroyed.

Real Madrid didn't play with much convictions. They played like they weren't worried about the game. The game statistics favors Chelsea but thy will loss If they play in such manners against Manchester city yor Liverpool, their keeper will have to pick the ball tirelessly from his goal post.

If you look at the statistics, Real Madrid is not the top favourite. However, we can assume that they will advance to the semi-finals. Real Madrid still has a strong team, with players who are among the absolute best in the world. There is currently no striker in better form than Benzema. This Real Madrid can actually beat anyone. It's not for nothing that they won the CL 3 seasons in a row. Modric is also very strong. City can also lose to Madrid. We'll have to see if Bayern can make it, I especially thought they were bad against Villareal in the first half and it's a miracle that it only stayed 1-0.

It is true that the statistics of the Chelsea vs Real Madrid match show Chelsea are more dominant and create more chances. But because of
some mistakes by Chelsea players, it gave Real Madrid a chance to score. But don't forget that Real Madrid is still the team with the most
Champions League trophies, Real Madrid has won 13 trophies. So I think it's very natural if we look at the history of Real Madrid, making
Real Madrid as one of the candidates who will win the Champions League trophy this season. Moreover, the last time they won the Champions
League trophy was in 2018, it was a long time ago, this should make Real Madrid even more motivated to win the Champions League trophy.
Before beating Chelsea in the first leg of the quarter-finals, Real Madrid managed to get rid of PSG who had many star players,
So for me it makes perfect sense if Real Madrid is the favorite to win the Champions League trophy this season.

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To tell the truth now, I'm thinking over Villarreal's semi final chance quite seriously. I'm one hundred percent aware of the fact that Bayern Munich are a way more difficult opponent than Juventus for them. Bayern Munich can be very deadly at scoring goals in their home games as you all know already. Villarreal defense will have a big responsibility against them to keep them away from their goal as much as possible. They like to play for wearing their opponents out in this kind of games. And we will see all together whether they will succeed.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 08, 2022, 05:17:37 PM

Real Madrid have really started to become one of the strongest candidates of the Champions League title now. Because they eliminated PSG by a great work first. And now, they are very close to eliminating the last champion team of the tournament, Chelsea. And their next opponent in the semi finals is going to be Manchester City or Atletico Madrid. Most probably, it would be Manchester City. But whichever of them make it there, I'm still going to favour Real Madrid as I've been very impressed by their effort.

Please, Real Madrid aren't any candidates for the title. They had an easy again against Chelsea which even them were surprised. Some silly mistakes were made by the players and real Madrid team seize their opportunity and scored. And if They were to progress to the next stage and was to play Manchester City, they'll easily be destroyed.

Real Madrid didn't play with much convictions. They played like they weren't worried about the game. The game statistics favors Chelsea but thy will loss If they play in such manners against Manchester city yor Liverpool, their keeper will have to pick the ball tirelessly from his goal post.

If you look at the statistics, Real Madrid is not the top favourite. However, we can assume that they will advance to the semi-finals. Real Madrid still has a strong team, with players who are among the absolute best in the world. There is currently no striker in better form than Benzema. This Real Madrid can actually beat anyone. It's not for nothing that they won the CL 3 seasons in a row. Modric is also very strong. City can also lose to Madrid. We'll have to see if Bayern can make it, I especially thought they were bad against Villareal in the first half and it's a miracle that it only stayed 1-0.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 08, 2022, 05:17:37 PM

Real Madrid have really started to become one of the strongest candidates of the Champions League title now. Because they eliminated PSG by a great work first. And now, they are very close to eliminating the last champion team of the tournament, Chelsea. And their next opponent in the semi finals is going to be Manchester City or Atletico Madrid. Most probably, it would be Manchester City. But whichever of them make it there, I'm still going to favour Real Madrid as I've been very impressed by their effort.

Please, Real Madrid aren't any candidates for the title. They had an easy again against Chelsea which even them were surprised. Some silly mistakes were made by the players and real Madrid team seize their opportunity and scored. And if They were to progress to the next stage and was to play Manchester City, they'll easily be destroyed.

Real Madrid didn't play with much convictions. They played like they weren't worried about the game. The game statistics favors Chelsea but thy will loss If they play in such manners against Manchester city yor Liverpool, their keeper will have to pick the ball tirelessly from his goal post.

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Real Madrid are very deadly at scoring goals especially thanks to Karim Benzema now. He is like a gift to Real Madrid in this season. He has been a goal machine so far and this wouldn't change until the end of the season I believe. He made another hat-trick today and it was unbelievably awesome. Tuchel must be really jealous of Benzema right now. Grin

After they got this huge win by a 3-1 result, I started to think that Real Madrid would finish the incomplete job in Santiago Bernabeu. And I wouldn't be wrong I guess.

Yes Madrid has been amazing so far especially Karim Benzema he is a savior in all situations looks like he will become the new favorite of the Madrid fans for what he has given. Karim Benzema is 2nd in the top score with 11 goals only 1 goal behind Lewandowski , in the second leg Benzema can definitely score more goals. I think Madrid is starting to be counted as a candidate to win the champions league.

Real Madrid have really started to become one of the strongest candidates of the Champions League title now. Because they eliminated PSG by a great work first. And now, they are very close to eliminating the last champion team of the tournament, Chelsea. And their next opponent in the semi finals is going to be Manchester City or Atletico Madrid. Most probably, it would be Manchester City. But whichever of them make it there, I'm still going to favour Real Madrid as I've been very impressed by their effort.

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Quote from: Joca97 on April 08, 2022, 04:57:12 PM

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I didn't expect such tactics from the side of Bayern Munich. Besides, Villarreal have surprised me too. They had several chance to increase the goal difference. Another good match from Villarreal. Bayern Munich tried to come back but Villarreal had played perfectly to win that match.

Villareal was in good touch and surely if they have their few chances which they miss then we can say they are in strong position for qualifying against team like Bayern Munich, but sadly they were not good enough as they need for this even Bayern Munich was also not good, and their tactics was also not good in this very important match.

With current result most chances fans feeling Bayern Munich is going to qualify for semi-final but here Villareal can do something extraordinary for their own chances because with this form they can do a big shocking upset in last few matches Bayern Munich is also not organized as they were in the past. Lewandowski fail to have any goal in first leg, hopefully we can expect something special from him as well in second leg.

Villereal now is now in a great position but i think that dosent matter much . They will be going in an away game to Munich and we have seen what happened to Salzburg last time. I think Bayern will be really offensive and Villereal will need to survive from all of those attacks

Of course they should try to anticipate this now, the Salzburg massacre should serve as a reminder and an example for them not to underestimate Bayern and the Alianz Arena will not be crowded with them.
They have to make this like the first leg even though the chances of them qualifying for the next round are quite slim but as long as there is a chance, no matter how small it is then they have to take advantage of it

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I didn't expect such tactics from the side of Bayern Munich. Besides, Villarreal have surprised me too. They had several chance to increase the goal difference. Another good match from Villarreal. Bayern Munich tried to come back but Villarreal had played perfectly to win that match.

Villareal was in good touch and surely if they have their few chances which they miss then we can say they are in strong position for qualifying against team like Bayern Munich, but sadly they were not good enough as they need for this even Bayern Munich was also not good, and their tactics was also not good in this very important match.

With current result most chances fans feeling Bayern Munich is going to qualify for semi-final but here Villareal can do something extraordinary for their own chances because with this form they can do a big shocking upset in last few matches Bayern Munich is also not organized as they were in the past. Lewandowski fail to have any goal in first leg, hopefully we can expect something special from him as well in second leg.

Villereal now is now in a great position but i think that dosent matter much . They will be going in an away game to Munich and we have seen what happened to Salzburg last time. I think Bayern will be really offensive and Villereal will need to survive from all of those attacks

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Real Madrid is not a small club at all, it is a strong club, I have thought before the match that Chelsea may not qualify, Real Madrid oust PSG, that is never easy at all, Real Madrid is a very strong club. If Real Madrid can win in 2 goals range in Stamford Bridge, I am wondering what would happen in the second match, highly likely Chelsea is out of UCL this season. I am still also expecting Real Madrid to win again in the second match as the club will not take Chelsea lightly at all.

Everyone will agree on that, and we know that Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League with 13 titles compared to any other team in Europe. So I don't think people will underestimate them even though they weren't as strong as they were a few seasons ago.

Real Madrid is very dependent on Benzema's performance this season because he is the player who keeps Real Madrid still competing in the quarter-finals because of his goals. Without Benzema Real Madrid look weak where they will find it difficult to score even to win the match, and I think Real Madrid might have lost by a bigger score without him.

While it is true Real Madrid is depending heavily on the performance of Benzema, we also need to ask ourselves what team would not depend heavily on Benzema when he is playing like this? He has scored 6 goals during the last two games of the champions, he scored 3 goals against PSG in a matter of 17 minutes and now he scored 2 goals in a matter of 3 minutes against Chelsea and then another one after half-time, and while I think it is going to be difficult for Chelsea to recover from this, I wonder if Real Madrid wasted an opportunity and let Chelsea live? As the third goal and the way it happened had a very demoralizing effect on the players of the Chelsea, which could have allowed Real Madrid to score even more goals during the rest of the game.

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Quote from: Rana590 on April 08, 2022, 04:06:14 PM

I didn't expect such tactics from the side of Bayern Munich. Besides, Villarreal have surprised me too. They had several chance to increase the goal difference. Another good match from Villarreal. Bayern Munich tried to come back but Villarreal had played perfectly to win that match.

Villareal was in good touch and surely if they have their few chances which they miss then we can say they are in strong position for qualifying against team like Bayern Munich, but sadly they were not good enough as they need for this even Bayern Munich was also not good, and their tactics was also not good in this very important match.

With current result most chances fans feeling Bayern Munich is going to qualify for semi-final but here Villareal can do something extraordinary for their own chances because with this form they can do a big shocking upset in last few matches Bayern Munich is also not organized as they were in the past. Lewandowski fail to have any goal in first leg, hopefully we can expect something special from him as well in second leg.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on April 08, 2022, 10:13:49 AM

Everyone will agree on that, and we know that Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League with 13 titles compared to any other team in Europe. So I don't think people will underestimate them even though they weren't as strong as they were a few seasons ago.

Yep. Real Madrid is a special team in UCL, they have 13 titles already and very dominating this competition. This is the reason why many top players want to join Real Madrid, they expect to win UCL there. Sure, there is no reason to underestimate Real Madrid, only people who don't know football say Real Madrid is a mediocre team. Even Real Madrid isn't as strong as in the Ronaldo era, they are still a competitive team with a great performance done by Benzema during this season.

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Real Madrid is very dependent on Benzema's performance this season because he is the player who keeps Real Madrid still competing in the quarter-finals because of his goals.

Indeed. Benzema is the most important of Real Madrid key players. Real Madrid will be in trouble if Benzema is injured, they have no strong CF besides Benzema. Benzema is the captain and also Real Madrid machine goals.

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Villarreal shocked Bayern Munich by having a solid game against them. They were solid in their defense and offense both. It was just unlucky for them not being able to score more goals in this game. If Villarreal were able to win by at least a two-goal gap, then things were going to be too hard for Bayern Munich. But now, Bayern Munich should be still confident about the second leg. Villarreal will need to defend them with all they have got there to secure next round. But I don't think they will make it.

Don't you know Villarreal almost did? I mean the difference of 2 goals. In the 62nd minute Manuel Neuer made a mistake on the pitch and Gerard Moreno almost converted it into a goal, If this error continues in the second leg, I don't believe Bayern Munich will qualify for the next round, and to be honest I would prefer to see Villarreal qualify for the next round.

Of course, I know. I was watching the Chelsea - Real Madrid game mostly but later on I saw all of the important attacks in the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. And I saw that Villarreal had a big dominance in this game unquestionably. Bayern Munich players must be relieved about not losing by a heavier score. But things are still not guaranteed for both of these teams. But winning this by only one goal might not be enough for Villarreal to reach the semi finals like I said. But it wouldn't be bad to see Villarreal in next round also as they have been great so far.

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Quote from: judas on April 08, 2022, 03:25:32 PM

Villarreal are continuing to impress everyone by their fascinating performance in the Champions League these days. Defeating Juventus like that in Turin was really extraordinary to witness. And two days ago, they did another unbelievable thing by defeating Bayern Munich easily. The score might seem as 1-0 but people who watched the game already know how great Villarreal played in it. This would have been even 2-0 or 3-0 too. Bayern Munich are just lucky for not having that kind of a result. Villarreal have a decent chance to advance now but the opponent is much harder than Juventus though.

I didn't expect such tactics from the side of Bayern Munich. Besides, Villarreal have surprised me too. They had several chance to increase the goal difference. Another good match from Villarreal. Bayern Munich tried to come back but Villarreal had played perfectly to win that match.

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I also noticed that in fact the score in the first game should have been more in favor of Villarreal and Bayern were lucky to lose only 1-0. But if you remember the confrontation between Villarreal and Juventus, then in the first match Villarreal drew 1-1, and then won 3-0 away. Therefore, if I were Bayern, I would start to get nervous - Villarreal plays stronger away Grin

I'm not underestimating Juventus but I believe they are not on the same level as Bayern.

I really wish the bookies are as optimistic as you with Villareal so we can have better odds for Bayern hehe. Sportsbet current line for Bayern is at 1.25 while 12 for Villareal. Rollbit has 1.27 and 10. Those are really attractive if you are betting on the underdog.

Yes, Bayern is certainly stronger than Juventus, but, nevertheless, it is unlikely that Juventus are so bad that they can “accidentally” lose to Villarreal at home 0-3, so Villarreal has a certain strength. Plus, if you look objectively without looking at the names in the first game, Villarreal completely outplayed Bayern, that is, in this particular match, it was stronger. I think first of all it was a coaching victory - Lewandowski was completely out of the game, the whole team played reliably and the Bayern defense was well studied and if Villarreal had been a little more lucky (or skillful) then the score would have been more than 1-0.

Villareal has strength and I like that they are not so bothered if they have less ball possession. I can also agree that Villareal won the tactical game in the first leg.

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Will Villarreal be able to repeat this at the Allianz Arena? Don't know.

I think the first half will be the key to this match. The game would be more open if Bayern could score early and that's where they usually dominate.

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But I look at the odds and realize that Villarreal is so underrated that I will definitely bet on it.

Goodluck. It's definitely worth a try.

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I wasn't wrong about my prediction for the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. I thought that it might end up with an unexpected result. And in that case, I thought that it would have ended up with a victory for Villarreal by a one-goal difference. And exactly the same happened as Villarreal defeated them by 1-0. But they were even close to making a bigger surprise if they didn't waste many opportunities. Especially Gerard Moreno's chance was a clear one but he missed big time. Neuer must have taken a deep breath after that.

Whenever there is a fixture which seems to be so obvious, I really use to take alot of time to predict the possible out. I already knew that in some cases Bayern Munich doesn't do well in the first leg of their champions league. But I neglected that obvious statistics and lost money. I realised my mistake. Football is so much related to history, at anytime don't try to neglect history.

Then my history book also told me that whenever Bayern didn't do well in the first leg, in the second leg, expect a bomb. So, in the returning leg I am expecting nothing less than 3 goals for Bayern Munich. The possible score could be Bayern Munich 3:1 Villarreal.

Let's keep our fingers crossed to see what the possible outcome of the next match will be, I was beginning to lose hope in Bayern Munich because of their previous legs' performance but again as you have said history can easily repeat itself if you have observed that Bayern Munich always give less performance in the first leg we can as good say their reserve their best play for latter. Let's see how their next game goes.

I still believe Bayern will qualify for the next round, even though they lost the first leg against Villarreal. Because after all Bayern are more worthy
to qualify for the next round, Bayern is one of the candidates for the team that will win the Champions League trophy. So Bayern will show it
in the second leg by beating Villarreal by a higher score. And I believe Bayern have that ability, because like you said Bayern did have a bad record
when playing in the first leg. Like when they faced Salzburg they only draw in the first leg, and in the second leg surprisingly can win with
a score of 7-1. I also hope the same thing happens when the second leg matches against Villarreal, especially since Bayern have a goal machine
like Robert Lewandowski, Bayern should be able to beat Villarreal in the second leg.

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Quote from: rby on April 08, 2022, 02:33:17 PM

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I wasn't wrong about my prediction for the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. I thought that it might end up with an unexpected result. And in that case, I thought that it would have ended up with a victory for Villarreal by a one-goal difference. And exactly the same happened as Villarreal defeated them by 1-0. But they were even close to making a bigger surprise if they didn't waste many opportunities. Especially Gerard Moreno's chance was a clear one but he missed big time. Neuer must have taken a deep breath after that.

Whenever there is a fixture which seems to be so obvious, I really use to take alot of time to predict the possible out. I already knew that in some cases Bayern Munich doesn't do well in the first leg of their champions league. But I neglected that obvious statistics and lost money. I realised my mistake. Football is so much related to history, at anytime don't try to neglect history.

Then my history book also told me that whenever Bayern didn't do well in the first leg, in the second leg, expect a bomb. So, in the returning leg I am expecting nothing less than 3 goals for Bayern Munich. The possible score could be Bayern Munich 3:1 Villarreal.

Let's keep our fingers crossed to see what the possible outcome of the next match will be, I was beginning to lose hope in Bayern Munich because of their previous legs' performance but again as you have said history can easily repeat itself if you have observed that Bayern Munich always give less performance in the first leg we can as good say their reserve their best play for latter. Let's see how their next game goes.

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Villarreal are continuing to impress everyone by their fascinating performance in the Champions League these days. Defeating Juventus like that in Turin was really extraordinary to witness. And two days ago, they did another unbelievable thing by defeating Bayern Munich easily. The score might seem as 1-0 but people who watched the game already know how great Villarreal played in it. This would have been even 2-0 or 3-0 too. Bayern Munich are just lucky for not having that kind of a result. Villarreal have a decent chance to advance now but the opponent is much harder than Juventus though.

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Quote from: rby on April 08, 2022, 02:33:17 PM

Whenever there is a fixture which seems to be so obvious, I really use to take alot of time to predict the possible out. I already knew that in some cases Bayern Munich doesn't do well in the first leg of their champions league. But I neglected that obvious statistics and lost money. I realised my mistake. Football is so much related to history, at anytime don't try to neglect history.

Then my history book also told me that whenever Bayern didn't do well in the first leg, in the second leg, expect a bomb. So, in the returning leg I am expecting nothing less than 3 goals for Bayern Munich. The possible score could be Bayern Munich 3:1 Villarreal.

Regardless of history or whatever, this was a blow and a trigger for Bayern to bounce back.
But if you look at the previous round they were not so good in the first leg and rampaged in the second leg.
It's still possible for the same scheme for Bayern now because Villarreal's 1 goal advantage I don't think is a big problem for them.
But on the other hand Villarreal now they have to prepare with it. At least they have to make a pretty solid defense there so the Bayern players can't equalize and turn things around

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 08, 2022, 02:26:11 PM

I wasn't wrong about my prediction for the Villarreal - Bayern Munich game. I thought that it might end up with an unexpected result. And in that case, I thought that it would have ended up with a victory for Villarreal by a one-goal difference. And exactly the same happened as Villarreal defeated them by 1-0. But they were even close to making a bigger surprise if they didn't waste many opportunities. Especially Gerard Moreno's chance was a clear one but he missed big time. Neuer must have taken a deep breath after that.

Whenever there is a fixture which seems to be so obvious, I really use to take alot of time to predict the possible out. I already knew that in some cases Bayern Munich doesn't do well in the first leg of their champions league. But I neglected that obvious statistics and lost money. I realised my mistake. Football is so much related to history, at anytime don't try to neglect history.

Then my history book also told me that whenever Bayern didn't do well in the first leg, in the second leg, expect a bomb. So, in the returning leg I am expecting nothing less than 3 goals for Bayern Munich. The possible score could be Bayern Munich 3:1 Villarreal.

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