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Quote from: Franctoshi on June 06, 2022, 12:37:51 PM

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Talking about a Messi, I see that he has been in decline since he first came to Paris Saint Germain. Maybe some will disagree with what I said, but this is what I see now. In fact, many say Messi only shines at Barcelona but not in other teams. If you say the title that PSG won, before Messi came they already had it.

Anyway, I don't think that Messi has some motivation to continue to

play with Paris Sant Germain, only money is his motivation. Grin

I don't really think major thing why Messi went to Paris Sant German was because money, He didn't have option when the contract expired and Barcelona couldn't renew his contact as result that they won't be able to continue to pay him huge some amount of money being paid to Messi then as Salary, However, I would preferred him moving to Man City rather than PSG but base on his relationship with Neymar, I think that's what got him to PSG.

Oh sure sir, but if you wanna to win something and be glorified by your fans, just give another possibility to Barcelona, cut your salary and demonstrate that you're the best, which deservers 7 gold baloon.

At this moment, Angel di Maria is better than Messi. I've seen him more decisive than Messi in some matches, against real madrid for example Messi were totally absent.

He should move up from Paris saint germain before it's too late.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 06, 2022, 11:49:53 AM

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Talking about a Messi, I see that he has been in decline since he first came to Paris Saint Germain. Maybe some will disagree with what I said, but this is what I see now. In fact, many say Messi only shines at Barcelona but not in other teams. If you say the title that PSG won, before Messi came they already had it.

Anyway, I don't think that Messi has some motivation to continue to

play with Paris Sant Germain, only money is his motivation. Grin

I don't really think major thing why Messi went to Paris Sant German was because money, He didn't have option when the contract expired and Barcelona couldn't renew his contact as result that they won't be able to continue to pay him huge some amount of money being paid to Messi then as Salary, However, I would preferred him moving to Man City rather than PSG but base on his relationship with Neymar, I think that's what got him to PSG.

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Liverpool may perform better next season the problem with Liverpool is that the club don't strikers that will make goal scores and if the can sign players like Ronaldo to make the goal difference.

Ronaldo would have been the best striker to be sign in for Liverpool, but am still hearing that Ronaldo will still play for Manchester United next season, he will play for Manchester United till he gets retired. So it is no possible for Ronaldo to be in Liverpool next season.

WTF? He cannot press (LFC playing style is all around geigenpress) and he's at the end of his carreer anyway. If anywhere else is more likely for him to get transferred to it's at Sporting.

Even if he does come in, can he really wear the Reds uniform Cheesy

Before he came to Manchester United last season and the issue of moving to City a lot of people started to disrespect and burn their shirts and now move to Liverpool? this is a very wild assumption lol
Even if he can't play at MU later (if he moves) then I still feel that another EPL club was not Ronaldo's choice at that time

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About Mane, I don't think so, if you take Ronaldo at the Age of Mane, I guess that Ronaldo is more better than him. Ronaldo will be always a legend. About Messi instead, I don't really like it at this moment.

Talking about a Messi, I see that he has been in decline since he first came to Paris Saint Germain. Maybe some will disagree with what I said, but this is what I see now. In fact, many say Messi only shines at Barcelona but not in other teams. If you say the title that PSG won, before Messi came they already had it.

My opinion is that Messi shine in barcelona because of Andres iniesta and Xavi. Once they has left Barcelona, we've seen what's happened to that team. Anyway, I don't think that Messi has some motivation to continue to

play with Paris Sant Germain, only money is his motivation. Grin

He should change his team and come back to Barcelona, with Xavi, they can do big things together.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 06, 2022, 10:57:02 AM

About Mane, I don't think so, if you take Ronaldo at the Age of Mane, I guess that Ronaldo is more better than him. Ronaldo will be always a legend. About Messi instead, I don't really like it at this moment.

Talking about a Messi, I see that he has been in decline since he first came to Paris Saint Germain. Maybe some will disagree with what I said, but this is what I see now. In fact, many say Messi only shines at Barcelona but not in other teams. If you say the title that PSG won, before Messi came they already had it.

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Quote from: Masplanc on June 06, 2022, 09:07:14 AM

Quote from: RILWAN on June 04, 2022, 02:31:51 PM

Liverpool may perform better next season the problem with Liverpool is that the club don't strikers that will make goal scores and if the can sign players like Ronaldo to make the goal difference.

Ronaldo would have been the best striker to be sign in for Liverpool, but am still hearing that Ronaldo will still play for Manchester United next season, he will play for Manchester United till he gets retired. So it is no possible for Ronaldo to be in Liverpool next season.

There is no way Liverpool would splash out to get Ronaldo, don't get me wrong he is a great striker, and with a roster where mane is left wing, ronaldo is striker, and salah is right win, that would be the best team there is on the pitch today.

However, they are fighting over not paying Salah and Mane too much money right now, and if they are not even considering paying 50 each for those amazing players, which is understandable because would make it financially difficult to go on, then I do not think that they would be able to actually provide something for Ronaldo neither. I am not even expecting a big transfer from them this year, just hold onto the money and pay salah and mane.

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WTF? He cannot press (LFC playing style is all around geigenpress) and he's at the end of his carreer anyway. If anywhere else is more likely for him to get transferred to it's at Sporting.

Currently Ronaldo is still able to play in the EPL, but not as good as when he was younger. Ronaldo moving to Liverpool I think will just be a waste of money. I think Mane will be better than Ronaldo for a long term investment. But I heard Sane is going too.
Ronaldo may not be long in the EPL. Maybe he will go to a league that is below the EPL level. Maybe you're right, or maybe he'll go to MLS. Many EPL legends ended their careers there.

Yes Ronaldo won't stay long in the English because he will retire soon. Even if Ronaldo is a good player Liverpool would not want to buy advance player like Ronaldo for next season.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on June 06, 2022, 10:53:29 AM

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WTF? He cannot press (LFC playing style is all around geigenpress) and he's at the end of his carreer anyway. If anywhere else is more likely for him to get transferred to it's at Sporting.

Currently Ronaldo is still able to play in the EPL, but not as good as when he was younger. Ronaldo moving to Liverpool I think will just be a waste of money. I think Mane will be better than Ronaldo for a long term investment. But I heard Sane is going too.
Ronaldo may not be long in the EPL. Maybe he will go to a league that is below the EPL level. Maybe you're right, or maybe he'll go to MLS. Many EPL legends ended their careers there.

Indeed Ronaldo is not like the young Ronaldo we used to know, but for competition I think he can still do it. Not without reason, now at Manchester United he is actually playing well but just lacks support from others. There's definitely a drop in performance, but I'm sure he can do well. And it looks like he still wants to do that.

Cristiano Ronaldo is a legend, and he will be a player at high level until the end of his career, like Ibrahimovic for example, that is really impressive also at 40+ years.

About Mane, I don't think so, if you take Ronaldo at the Age of Mane, I guess that Ronaldo is more better than him. Ronaldo will be always a legend. About Messi instead, I don't really like it at this moment.

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WTF? He cannot press (LFC playing style is all around geigenpress) and he's at the end of his carreer anyway. If anywhere else is more likely for him to get transferred to it's at Sporting.

Currently Ronaldo is still able to play in the EPL, but not as good as when he was younger. Ronaldo moving to Liverpool I think will just be a waste of money. I think Mane will be better than Ronaldo for a long term investment. But I heard Sane is going too.
Ronaldo may not be long in the EPL. Maybe he will go to a league that is below the EPL level. Maybe you're right, or maybe he'll go to MLS. Many EPL legends ended their careers there.

Indeed Ronaldo is not like the young Ronaldo we used to know, but for competition I think he can still do it. Not without reason, now at Manchester United he is actually playing well but just lacks support from others. There's definitely a drop in performance, but I'm sure he can do well. And it looks like he still wants to do that.

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In the history of clubs players always switch clubs and that is the only way clubs can grow, if benzema get sold real Madrid with fill the gap with a new player. Strickers contribute alot to club performance as their are the one to concide the goals for their club.

The Club can see who is worth selling and who is not because it considers not only the skill of the player, but also the age of the player. Because if it's too old, then physically it's worth selling if someone wants it and replaced with something else in order to help the club's strength stay on track.

Selling certain players and buying other players is the main reason why there is a transfer market. Every club will always need to change tactics and they will also need the players best fit for the certain tactics. That is why footballers are consistently being bought and sold.

Two things are mostly looked at while buying or selling a footballer. Those are his skill and his age.

If he is young chances are he is not very skilled but he has time on his side and he will be able to play for a longer period of time.
If he is old chances are he can be a very skilled player but eventually his skill is going to deteriorate because he is getting older and he will also not be able to give his service for a long time.

These are the obvious variables that are looked at for a transfer. And every club will make sure that they have the best player depending on their affordable price range.
So, even if Real Madrid lets go of Benzema right now they will be able to buy someone very good because they have a lot of money right now.

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Quote from: NotATether on June 06, 2022, 10:05:27 AM

WTF? He cannot press (LFC playing style is all around geigenpress) and he's at the end of his carreer anyway. If anywhere else is more likely for him to get transferred to it's at Sporting.

Currently Ronaldo is still able to play in the EPL, but not as good as when he was younger. Ronaldo moving to Liverpool I think will just be a waste of money. I think Mane will be better than Ronaldo for a long term investment. But I heard Sane is going too.
Ronaldo may not be long in the EPL. Maybe he will go to a league that is below the EPL level. Maybe you're right, or maybe he'll go to MLS. Many EPL legends ended their careers there.

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Quote from: Masplanc on June 06, 2022, 09:07:14 AM

Quote from: RILWAN on June 04, 2022, 02:31:51 PM

Liverpool may perform better next season the problem with Liverpool is that the club don't strikers that will make goal scores and if the can sign players like Ronaldo to make the goal difference.

Ronaldo would have been the best striker to be sign in for Liverpool, but am still hearing that Ronaldo will still play for Manchester United next season, he will play for Manchester United till he gets retired. So it is no possible for Ronaldo to be in Liverpool next season.

WTF? He cannot press (LFC playing style is all around geigenpress) and he's at the end of his carreer anyway. If anywhere else is more likely for him to get transferred to it's at Sporting.

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Real Madrid needs to get new players because to build and strong team to compete. I read in a speculation that Real Madrid has allocated 400 million dollars budget for the transfer. I read today in a speculation that Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid's agenda.

I believe Madrid is not short of good players. Madrid has a lot of players that the coach can play at any time. It's just that the current coach in my opinion is too focused on the main squad. Some big players are also not given the opportunity to show their quality.
I think Madrid put together a lot of star players, just for business. We all know, that the world football industry generates good business for club owners. Madrid was successful with the exchange of players.

Real Madrid is not in short of players, they still have good players what they need is to strengthen the team in case of injuries and other uncertainties. But it is not a must do affair. It is good that we understand that the current squad of Real Madrid is ful of aged players. But it doesn't mean that these players cannot go one more season. My point is that it is not wise for Real Madrid to release such amount of money when good players aren't available for sale anymore.
Salah isn't leaving Liverpool, Haaland has chosen Manchester City instead and Mbappe decided to stay back in Paris, so what's the point pushing for more signings?

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 06, 2022, 08:36:55 AM

Real Madrid needs to get new players because to build and strong team to compete. I read in a speculation that Real Madrid has allocated 400 million dollars budget for the transfer. I read today in a speculation that Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid's agenda.

I believe Madrid is not short of good players. Madrid has a lot of players that the coach can play at any time. It's just that the current coach in my opinion is too focused on the main squad. Some big players are also not given the opportunity to show their quality.
I think Madrid put together a lot of star players, just for business. We all know, that the world football industry generates good business for club owners. Madrid was successful with the exchange of players.

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Quote from: RILWAN on June 04, 2022, 02:31:51 PM

Liverpool may perform better next season the problem with Liverpool is that the club don't strikers that will make goal scores and if the can sign players like Ronaldo to make the goal difference.

Ronaldo would have been the best striker to be sign in for Liverpool, but am still hearing that Ronaldo will still play for Manchester United next season, he will play for Manchester United till he gets retired. So it is no possible for Ronaldo to be in Liverpool next season.

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Real Madrid needs to get new players because to build and strong team to compete. I read in a speculation that Real Madrid has allocated 400 million dollars budget for the transfer. I read today in a speculation that Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid's agenda.

Exactly, because getting a new talented players into Real Madrid will really help real Madrid to perform better in next season. I think, Real Madrid management are fully ready to spend any amount of money to get talented defenders and midfielders that will help the team to perform well throughout the next season and many competition to come. It will be difficult for Real Madrid management to accept Cristiano Ronaldo because there are many strikers who performed well more than Cristiano Ronaldo in Real Madrid.

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Real Madrid needs to get new players because to build and strong team to compete. I read in a speculation that Real Madrid has allocated 400 million dollars budget for the transfer. I read today in a speculation that Cristiano Ronaldo was on Real Madrid's agenda.

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Quote from: RILWAN on June 05, 2022, 01:35:13 PM

In the history of clubs players always switch clubs and that is the only way clubs can grow, if benzema get sold real Madrid with fill the gap with a new player. Strickers contribute alot to club performance as their are the one to concide the goals for their club.

The Club can see who is worth selling and who is not because it considers not only the skill of the player, but also the age of the player. Because if it's too old, then physically it's worth selling if someone wants it and replaced with something else in order to help the club's strength stay on track.

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I do agree that they have missed two amazing names that they could have get, but that happens there is nothing wrong with that. I believe that they are already good, and they just need 3 players that is it the rest is okay. They need one defender which they will probably get with Rudiger, and one midfield which I am sure they will find, and one striker to replace Benzema when the time comes, so just like sub Benzema out time to time to rest him and put that player in, so a young player would do. That three will be enough, maybe like get a second midfield if you can but they do not have to, and all of this combined could cost under 100 million as well.

Actually with trio midfielder right now from Modric, Kroos and Casemiro are position really need back up and Real Madrid should looking for who will replace on midfielder position. Almost several years ago this trio midfielder have working with Real Madrid and always become regular player. I think need to find who will replace third player above, actually with Modric have over age and I think need to find new midfielder can play well replace Modric position. Except Real Madrid still need to find new forward will be competitor for Karim Benzema if he got injury or missing on important match.

Oh, yes, the matches in the Champions League and in the domestic championship showed that Real Madrid with Benzema and Real Madrid without Benzema are completely different teams and he can be considered the main culprit of the club's victories. The failed deal with Mbappe obviously added headaches to the management and coaching staff of the club, because it was on him that the bet was placed as a striker who is also able to make a result. It is no secret to anyone that the club's management was confident in the transfer of the player and therefore did not resort to active actions in the transfer market to find a new striker.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on June 05, 2022, 03:58:25 PM

Real Madrid needs to build on there champions League triumph and get new players especially now Mbappe have renewed with PSG ,, so they can have a successful campaign next season,, to continue the culture of winning the champions League u need good players as they have shown us between 2016_2018 when they won it three on a row.. especially the midfield with Kross and modric all in their late 30s you cannot rely on them,, Some additions needs to be done ..in other to build and strong team to compete on all fronts next season including the world club cup and the super cups.. and even areas with exiting players like Isco and Marcelo,,,, I think Paul pogba will be a superb addition to this Madrid team because of his game .. strength and skills on the ball

It's true that Real Madrid need to bring in some new players to be able to defend the Champions League trophy next year. It is true that the current
Real Madrid squad is quite solid, but Real Madrid must immediately regenerate their midfield. As you said Casemiro, Modric and Kroos are not
young anymore. They will find it difficult to maintain fitness where Real Madrid's match schedule is very tight. So it's too risky if Real Madrid rely
too much on these 3 players next season. I agree Paul Pogba is a good choice to strengthen Real Madrid's midfield, but Real Madrid must be able
to compete with several big European teams who are also interested in Pogba. For Real Madrid's back line, they have managed to bring in Rudiger
from Chelsea, that's a very good thing for Real Madrid. Because it will make Real Madrid's defense more solid and it will be more difficult for
the opposing team to score goals.

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