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Quote from: Gosgosking on March 14, 2022, 01:10:24 PM

Manchester United are yet to beat Athletico Madrid in the champions league.
They have drawn twice and lost one in the process, but the coach feels they have a better chance relating from the game during the weekend against Tottenham.
Ronaldo also has a good scoring record and the Spanish club knows about that very well.

ManU playing home which is an advantage for them, CR7 played well in the last game against Spurs and scored a hattrick which boosted their odds. Overall, ManU seems favorite but ATM is a hard team with a horrible strategy when it is applied the Simeone's way. Hopefully ManU could do something good in this match or else their gentlemen fans will be very upset Tongue

Chelsea is the only team that will play comfortably this week in CL. Juve and Ajax should not fall at this point

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Quote from: hashrateproducts on March 14, 2022, 06:34:46 AM

With Ronaldo, everything in football is possible. Ronaldo always delivered when the team needs him. He is going to turn up tomorrow against Athletico Madrid. Although, we don't know if he is going to deliver as usual. Ragnick should start Paul Pogba,Bruno Fernandes, elanga if he wants a win. Old Trafford will be shatter if United failed to win their rival. Athletico madrid boss, Simeone is a coach that had so many tactics when it comes to winning a big game. Definitely, he is going to start with his key players like Llorente, felix, Luiz Suarez and Anthonie Grizeman. But only one team will qualify for this round.

Ronaldo is still having magic, and we already watch this in last match against Tottenham and now fans expecting performance like this in next match against Atlético Madrid if he has done again then surely it's going to be new energy for Manchester United and Ronaldo who is currently in rumours about his career here in Manchester United but this all can change things very positively for them and new manager also can have full faith in him which could be great for next season.

Because, right now their options are limited, and they have no enough chances for qualification through English League table so any magic here in Champions League is surely great for them even it's still very long way to go but in soccer we can expect all results from these magicians in any game.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on March 14, 2022, 01:10:24 PM

Manchester United are yet to beat Athletico Madrid in the champions league.
They have drawn twice and lost one in the process, but the coach feels they have a better chance relating from the game during the weekend against Tottenham.
Ronaldo also has a good scoring record and the Spanish club knows about that very well.

Well, this time the odds are in favor of ManU. Qualification for the next round is at ManU 1.42 / Atletico 2.65 and for the game itself 2.1/3.25/3.6. In their respective leagues the performance of both teams is similarly this year and they are at 5th (ManU) and 4th (Atletico) ranks.
I think Atletico will need a big portion of luck to have a chance to survive the game in Manchester.

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Manchester United are yet to beat Athletico Madrid in the champions league.
They have drawn twice and lost one in the process, but the coach feels they have a better chance relating from the game during the weekend against Tottenham.
Ronaldo also has a good scoring record and the Spanish club knows about that very well.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 13, 2022, 06:04:36 PM

Games of the week.

Tuesday 15th March
Ajax 20:00 Benfica
Manchester United 20:00 Atletico Madrid

Wednesday 16th March
Juventus 20:00 Villarreal
Lille 20:00 Chelsea

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Will Chelsea be allow to play? Who knows?

Why not? Has there been any news regarding the ban for Chelsea to play anywhere?
As for the matches, in my opinion, the multi-bet on the victories of Ajax, Juventus and Chelsea in regular time looks the most obvious.
I believe in United, but I will continue to avoid betting on this team.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

Ronaldo as an individual knows how to make history in big matches. Ronaldo has done it against Atletico Madrid severally when he was at Real Madrid and he also has done it when he was at Juventus, can he also do it for Manchester United this time? That is the big question.
But my advice is that Manchester United should not rely on Ronaldo because when he becomes nervous he doesn't play well again. He will be playing with anger and when he gets yellow card, his day that day is ruined.

It would have been good for Manchester United if Ronaldo did not show up big time against Tottenham. Atleast too much eyes will not be on him during this champions league match with Atletico Madrid. As it is now, all eyes are on Ronaldo to deliver and I am sure we know how tactical Simeone can be. Agree with me that he must have been looking for a solution against Manchester United to do wonders.

Manchester united itself is having midfield problems and defence problems. When everyone of Manchester United fans will be complaining about Maguire and yer he will still be the one to captain Manchester United in the Champions League. It is a very big problem for the players and for the team also.
The atmosphere of the old Trafford will give Manchester United a warm environment to eliminate their opponent but we should not also be surprised if Ronaldo did not perform and Manchester United is eliminated because Atletico Madrid is a big team.

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Sometimes in the Champions League the determination of the team to be played against is also quite influential I think because sometimes there are some strong teams that must be faced even in the early stages. For example, when Madrid met PSG in the last 16 and indeed this would be like a big match which would indeed be a pity if one of the two big teams was thrown out early.
As for Chelsea at this time they still benefit from the opponent they have to fight because even though they are a strong team but in UCL they are not very superior.

Anything is possible in the champions league, but Bayern and City are the favourites. Initially I also had PSG on my list, but they are gone. I also think that Ajax also has a claim to the title, they are underestimated and they also have an ideal opponent in Benfica, they played 1-1 away and are now finishing it at home. Real Madrid is a dangerous outsider.

Obviously now City and Bayern still idolize them a lot but I am a Madrid fan and now their chances are quite big especially the confidence after eliminating PSG now.
Ajax is currently still in a positive trend in the UCL, even though they have never lost until now.
Benfica are still a good team but now I think they should be ready to take their suitcases and come back early from the Champions League hunt because I'm sure Ajax will win this game

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With each season, the PSG = P$G formula becomes more and more true. They spend astronomical money only to crash in the first serious match where they need to show character. This happens almost every season (only the Champions League covid season was more or less successful for them).
Mbappe is leaving, Messi is getting old, Pochettino will definitely be sacked - I don't know what the PSG management will do to make the club stronger next season or at least not experience a dip in results.

Maybe it time for the whole management of PSG (including the sheikh who gives them all the money) to slowly realize that money does not automatically give you the big titles in european football. They have a great team no doubt, but i think it is wrong of the management to demand that the team must win the Champions League title before each and every season, that puts a huge amount of pressure onto the players and once an unexpected setback happens like that big mistake by Donnarumma yesterday then the whole team suddenly is starting to get nervous again because they know what huge expectations the management always have.

Well... It's a difficult question. In previous seasons, there was (in my opinion) no special pressure on PSG. No one demanded a title from them here and now. However, they were often disappointing. This season has been a complete disaster. The composition of the team was strengthened as much as possible, but the results fell (this can be seen even in the matches in Ligue 1, where PSG are in the lead, but they won many games in a difficult struggle and in the last minutes). At the same time, PSG completely failed in the Champions League. I think in such a situation the pressure on the players and the coach from the owners of the club is fully justified.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on March 14, 2022, 06:09:23 AM

Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

Ronaldo as an individual knows how to make history in big matches. Ronaldo has done it against Atletico Madrid severally when he was at Real Madrid and he also has done it when he was at Juventus, can he also do it for Manchester United this time? That is the big question.
But my advice is that Manchester United should not rely on Ronaldo because when he becomes nervous he doesn't play well again. He will be playing with anger and when he gets yellow card, his day that day is ruined.

The match is getting more exciting entering the Champions League quarter-finals, can Atletico Madrid beat Manchester United with their current performance? unstable when viewed from the previous few games except yesterday against Tottenham, success without Bruno might be good enough. Bruno's selfishness is very visible when he plays with Ronaldo, whatever happened to him, he doesn't seem to want to be rivaled. It's clear that he's always done a lot of legality with executions on goal without a goal. If the Manchester United fans don't have Maguire play, of course, I really hope to add Bruno to the side. Maybe the formation would be much better without these two players for now.

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For the first day of the remaining matchups, my predictions are like this: Ajax are a very certain favourite to be the victor against Benfica home. The result of the first game shouldn't mislead anyone I believe. Ajax are a much powerful team than Benfica this season and I expect them to prove it in this game nicely. They can win this by at least two goals. And the other game is really hard to predict though. Manchester United might advance but it might not be that easy as well. Atletico Madrid are one of the solid teams in defense and they would't give up easily.

Ajax should normally have no problems with Benfica. Although the performances in the league of Ajax have not been great lately. They really set a good record in the Champions League. And Haller who has scored all matches - 7 so far - all. That is also a major achievement. You can make good use of such strikers. Of course I don't want to make the comparison with Levandovski, it is exceptional. Ajax through to the next round. The draw is always very exciting.

Ajax is a great team and a very agile and enthusiastic team in my opinion. That agility will come into play in the match against Benfica. Obviously, they have not played really well in their own League but my prescription is Champions League matches and the League matches are totally different. So I expect Ajax to win against Benfica.

No doubt to Ajax great team.They played very well overall this season. They have good team combination and they played very well per match.Benfica vs Ajax Both team are strong, both team can be win this match.But i hope Ajax will win this match.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on March 14, 2022, 06:09:23 AM

Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

Ronaldo as an individual knows how to make history in big matches. Ronaldo has done it against Atletico Madrid severally when he was at Real Madrid and he also has done it when he was at Juventus, can he also do it for Manchester United this time? That is the big question.
But my advice is that Manchester United should not rely on Ronaldo because when he becomes nervous he doesn't play well again. He will be playing with anger and when he gets yellow card, his day that day is ruined.

With Ronaldo, everything in football is possible. Ronaldo always delivered when the team needs him. He is going to turn up tomorrow against Athletico Madrid. Although, we don't know if he is going to deliver as usual. Ragnick should start Paul Pogba,Bruno Fernandes, elanga if he wants a win. Old Trafford will be shatter if United failed to win their rival. Athletico madrid boss, Simeone is a coach that had so many tactics when it comes to winning a big game. Definitely, he is going to start with his key players like Llorente, felix, Luiz Suarez and Anthonie Grizeman. But only one team will qualify for this round.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

Ronaldo as an individual knows how to make history in big matches. Ronaldo has done it against Atletico Madrid severally when he was at Real Madrid and he also has done it when he was at Juventus, can he also do it for Manchester United this time? That is the big question.
But my advice is that Manchester United should not rely on Ronaldo because when he becomes nervous he doesn't play well again. He will be playing with anger and when he gets yellow card, his day that day is ruined.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

We'll see that tomorrow night. Cristiano Ronaldo plays really effectively against Spanish teams. Maybe he has improved himself in this regard by playing for Real Madrid for years. He can predict the playing style and tactics of Spanish teams. Ronaldo can play in beast mode again against Atlético.

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For the first day of the remaining matchups, my predictions are like this: Ajax are a very certain favourite to be the victor against Benfica home. The result of the first game shouldn't mislead anyone I believe. Ajax are a much powerful team than Benfica this season and I expect them to prove it in this game nicely. They can win this by at least two goals. And the other game is really hard to predict though. Manchester United might advance but it might not be that easy as well. Atletico Madrid are one of the solid teams in defense and they would't give up easily.

Ajax should normally have no problems with Benfica. Although the performances in the league of Ajax have not been great lately. They really set a good record in the Champions League. And Haller who has scored all matches - 7 so far - all. That is also a major achievement. You can make good use of such strikers. Of course I don't want to make the comparison with Levandovski, it is exceptional. Ajax through to the next round. The draw is always very exciting.

Ajax is a great team and a very agile and enthusiastic team in my opinion. That agility will come into play in the match against Benfica. Obviously, they have not played really well in their own League but my prescription is Champions League matches and the League matches are totally different. So I expect Ajax to win against Benfica.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

But now it's a different team like the team that Cristiano Ronaldo used to be. Indeed, I am really looking forward to Cristiano Ronaldo's action in this match, whether he will return to do the same thing as before, and become a nightmare for Atletico Madrid. Or vice versa, Atletico Madrid will take revenge and stop him. I think this is no longer a competition between teams, but also between individuals.

Manchester United are more favorites than Atletico Madrid, because this match will be played at Old Trafford which is the pride of Manchester United stadium. But Atletico madrid will not give up easily, because both teams still have the same chance to qualify for the quarter-finals. Underdog status can actually make Atletico a more dangerous opponent for Manchester United.
Ahead of the 2nd leg of the Champions League, Manchester United made a beautiful record in the Premier League, Man United just won over Tottenham 3-2 thanks to Ronaldo hat-trick, but this match has a different atmosphere, the Champions League is very different from the Premier League, and Atletico madrid is not Tottenham. So Manchester United must be careful with Atletico madrid who are very ambitious to win this match.

The Champions League is the highest competition in Europe, so almost all the big European teams are very ambitious to win the Champions League
trophy. So either Man United or Atletico will definitely try to win the match in the second leg, let alone the match in the first leg ended in a draw.
This means that both teams do have the same opportunity, so the Man United vs Atletico match is indeed very difficult to predict.

I agree that Man United are a bit more superior, because apart from playing at home, Man United just beat Tottenham which is one of the strongest
teams in the Premier League. So the morale of Man United players is on the rise, this will motivate Man United players to give their best when
facing Atletico. But Man United must be wary of Atletico, although the start of the season Atlético played badly, but approaching the end of
the season Atlético seemed to have rediscovered their best game. Even Atletico won 4 wins in a row in La Liga, this proves Atletico is not a team that
Man United can beat easily. The big match Man United vs Atletico will indeed be hard, because in the first leg there were many violations and
the referee had to issue 9 yellow cards, so there is a possibility in the second leg the referee will issue a red card.

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United will probably be portrayed as a favorite (so far the bookies put them at 1.57 odds to progress against Atletico's 2.36) but I feel Atletico has more experience as a team in games like these.

They know how to play boring and ugly and how to grind for a result and although United is playing at home, I feel Atletico will be dominating the flow of the game. They will defend deep and wait for counterattacks, and United will give them enough space to use.

I'd put it more as a 50-50, will bet on Atletico going through if the odds will be the same after we get the lineups.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on March 13, 2022, 10:33:56 PM

Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

But now it's a different team like the team that Cristiano Ronaldo used to be. Indeed, I am really looking forward to Cristiano Ronaldo's action in this match, whether he will return to do the same thing as before, and become a nightmare for Atletico Madrid. Or vice versa, Atletico Madrid will take revenge and stop him. I think this is no longer a competition between teams, but also between individuals.

Manchester United are more favorites than Atletico Madrid, because this match will be played at Old Trafford which is the pride of Manchester United stadium. But Atletico madrid will not give up easily, because both teams still have the same chance to qualify for the quarter-finals. Underdog status can actually make Atletico a more dangerous opponent for Manchester United.
Ahead of the 2nd leg of the Champions League, Manchester United made a beautiful record in the Premier League, Man United just won over Tottenham 3-2 thanks to Ronaldo hat-trick, but this match has a different atmosphere, the Champions League is very different from the Premier League, and Atletico madrid is not Tottenham. So Manchester United must be careful with Atletico madrid who are very ambitious to win this match.

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On the other hand, Manchester United is not performing consistently and they did win their last match against Tottenham Hotspur but the match was absolutely carried by Cristiano Ronaldo on his back. He scored a hat trick and those were the only three goals that Manchester United scored.

Therefore, Manchester United style of the play rests on Ronaldo, but not in all of these matches supplying Ronaldo with passes for execution. In the match against Tottenham Hotspur alone Ronaldo had a lot of passes. In the quarter-finals, which will be contested later, Ronaldo will continue to be lowered from round 1 because he will be the ideal determinant. While Atletico Madrid already knows such a strategy. It is possible that the match against Atletico Madrid will be quite difficult for Ronaldo to move freely. Manchester United still has Cavani, Pogba, and Rashford.

In the Manchester United versus Atletico Madrid match someone else has to score other than Ronaldo. Because after the last match of Manchester United I am sure that Atletico Madrid will not let Ronaldo move freely and someone will always be guarding him. Now what I am afraid of is that I know Manchester United does have a lot of players who can score and that was not the case for a long time now.

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Yes, it is quite difficult to make predictions in this confrontation because the situation changes with every round of the championship, every game, and if before that I would still give some advantage to Atletico Madrid, then winning against Tottenham should clearly give the players and coaching staff of Manchester United more confidence and strength. In any case, I think that Manchester United in the second leg will try to seize the initiative from the first minutes and own it throughout the match, at least due to the fact that the match will be held at its home stadium. But how it will turn out and how the players of Atletico Madrid will react to it is another question.

Atletico Madrid has been showing good performance in recent times. I think they are going to be quite confident going into the match against Manchester United. Meanwhile Manchester United is winning but the problem is Ronaldo is hard carrying the team on his own. And against Atletico Madrid, he will be watched closely and defenders are going to close him down so he does not get too much space. I think in that match Ronaldo might need to be the one making the space and the other attackers will need to finish the job.

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The last game of Manchester United in the Premier League showed a spectacular Ronaldo scoring his 59 hat trick which is quite special considering his age now.If Manchester United happen to be in the same performance and the players to be fully focused I think it will be extremely difficult for Atletico Madrid to not lose such game.Now Manchester United I believe to be much more focused in this game rather than in Premier League where they made a few mistakes making them falling out of the zone of direct participation in Champions League although they are still there just one point behind.I think Manchester is going to win the game against Atletico Madrid and the odd should be quite good to make some money by betting on them,if you want to be somewhat more safe bet on them to qualify further rather than win the game.

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Games of the week.

Tuesday 15th March
Ajax 20:00 Benfica
Manchester United 20:00 Atletico Madrid

Wednesday 16th March
Juventus 20:00 Villarreal
Lille 20:00 Chelsea

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Will Chelsea be allow to play? Who knows?

There is no reason why Chelsea would be banned from participating in all competitions.
Their only misfortune is that their owner is Russian and because of his personal connection with the Russian president he is under sanctions.
Of course, this seriously affects the stability of the club as the UK government wants to prevent the club owner from making money from his club.
There is already talk that a big exodus of players is being prepared at the end of the season and the club will find itself in very serious trouble.
However, this is not a Russian club and there is no reason to exclude them from the competition.
Chelsea players are professionals and I believe they will give their best in all competitions but it must be admitted that they do not have the same conditions as other clubs and that the question of regularity of competition could even be asked.

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