UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 344.

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Games of the week.

Tuesday 15th March
Ajax 20:00 Benfica
Manchester United 20:00 Atletico Madrid

Wednesday 16th March
Juventus 20:00 Villarreal
Lille 20:00 Chelsea

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Will Chelsea be allow to play? Who knows?

Chelsea will play because his boss has sold him in some daring way to a middle company
moreover he has formally put it up for sale, the famous fighter is among the favorites to buy it (they say)
we will see

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Quote from: bounceback on March 13, 2022, 03:13:32 AM

In the first leg meeting of the Champions League, MU drew with ATM with a score of 1-1, so I think this second leg meeting will be a little difficult to predict who will come out as the winner and advance to the next round, but after seeing Ronaldo's performance this time it looks like he in his best form after scoring a hat-trick against Tottenham in the Premier League, so I prefer the MU team to advance to the next round in the Champions League and win the game against ATM.

I believe that ATM had the upper hand up until last night, we saw them doing a lot better but then United showed that they have Ronaldo and they could be amazing at any given minute. This is why it is still unknown. I do not know which one will go to next stage.

Both teams deserve it against each other to be fair. If they were playing like Madrid or City or something then I would expect less from them but by the looks of it these two going head to head do not have that much difference if you ask me. I believe that they are going to be quite close to each other and the game will be quite difficult for both of them as well. Not saying that it will a tie and penalties and all, but won't be easy probably.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 13, 2022, 05:59:07 PM

Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

But now it's a different team like the team that Cristiano Ronaldo used to be. Indeed, I am really looking forward to Cristiano Ronaldo's action in this match, whether he will return to do the same thing as before, and become a nightmare for Atletico Madrid. Or vice versa, Atletico Madrid will take revenge and stop him. I think this is no longer a competition between teams, but also between individuals.

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Quote from: mamesso on March 13, 2022, 12:03:09 AM

The Manchester United vs Tottenham victory was certainly welcomed by their supporters, because this victory could make the confidence of Manchester United players increase again when they faced Atletico Madrid in the second leg of the Champions League.
Ronaldo hat-trick against Tottenham had to be watched out for by Diego Siemone, he had to instruct his men to take special care of Ronaldo, because Ronaldo could have done something unexpected that made Atletico Madrid have to be eliminated in the UCL.
Although Atletico's chances of qualifying for the quarter-finals are still open, Diego Siemone must be able to provide a morale boost to Atletico's players in order to show an impressive game at Old Trafford.

That is indeed clear because considering that Atletico Madrid will play at home to Manchester United in the second leg of the Champions League this week, it is imperative for Diego Siemone to provide better motivation and strategy for his current players.
And especially for the players who will compete in the match because at this time the shot from a Cristiano Ronaldo is still very dangerous even though he kicks from outside the penalty box.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on March 13, 2022, 06:09:04 PM

For the first day of the remaining matchups, my predictions are like this: Ajax are a very certain favourite to be the victor against Benfica home. The result of the first game shouldn't mislead anyone I believe. Ajax are a much powerful team than Benfica this season and I expect them to prove it in this game nicely. They can win this by at least two goals. And the other game is really hard to predict though. Manchester United might advance but it might not be that easy as well. Atletico Madrid are one of the solid teams in defense and they would't give up easily.

Ajax should normally have no problems with Benfica. Although the performances in the league of Ajax have not been great lately. They really set a good record in the Champions League. And Haller who has scored all matches - 7 so far - all. That is also a major achievement. You can make good use of such strikers. Of course I don't want to make the comparison with Levandovski, it is exceptional. Ajax through to the next round. The draw is always very exciting.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 13, 2022, 03:10:56 PM

Atletico Madrid actually seems to be playing really well in recent times. They have won 4 out of their last five matches. And the other one was the draw against Manchester United. So, I think Atletico Madrid is in a good run of form right now and they should be able to beat Manchester United. On the other hand, Manchester United is not performing consistently and they did win their last match against Tottenham Hotspur but the match was absolutely carried by Cristiano Ronaldo on his back. He scored a hat trick and those were the only three goals that Manchester United scored.

Yes, it is quite difficult to make predictions in this confrontation because the situation changes with every round of the championship, every game, and if before that I would still give some advantage to Atletico Madrid, then winning against Tottenham should clearly give the players and coaching staff of Manchester United more confidence and strength. In any case, I think that Manchester United in the second leg will try to seize the initiative from the first minutes and own it throughout the match, at least due to the fact that the match will be held at its home stadium. But how it will turn out and how the players of Atletico Madrid will react to it is another question.

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For the first day of the remaining matchups, my predictions are like this: Ajax are a very certain favourite to be the victor against Benfica home. The result of the first game shouldn't mislead anyone I believe. Ajax are a much powerful team than Benfica this season and I expect them to prove it in this game nicely. They can win this by at least two goals. And the other game is really hard to predict though. Manchester United might advance but it might not be that easy as well. Atletico Madrid are one of the solid teams in defense and they would't give up easily.

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Games of the week.

Tuesday 15th March
Ajax 20:00 Benfica
Manchester United 20:00 Atletico Madrid

Wednesday 16th March
Juventus 20:00 Villarreal
Lille 20:00 Chelsea

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Will Chelsea be allow to play? Who knows?

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 13, 2022, 03:37:13 PM

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Well, if so, that completely changes things.
Considering that Abramovich made a huge investment in Chelsea (from the money he stole in Putin's Russia), he would have recovered huge funds if they were not completely frozen. It seems that this time such "tricks" will not help him (and I hope other bandits from Putin's gang) and they will at least lose part of their capital.

Not it is official what I said. He is allowed to sell the club but he is not allowed to profit from the sale in anyway. Now I wonder how they will ensure that is going to happen. These guys know so many tricks, saved so many taxes elsewhere probably. I am surprised that he is allowed to sell at all. It is probably to save the football club I guess? I haven't understood it yet in its entirety. If someone knows more , please enlighten me. Does that mean he can take any proceeds from sales as long as there is no profits? Wouldn't that still be against the sanctions?

In fact, I am now paying more attention to other matters (I am from Russia and, as you understand, the war affects me almost directly), so I cannot say for sure the current state of affairs of Abramovich. But judging by the news that I accidentally see (for example, the arrest of a rabbi on the basis of a certificate from which Abramovich received Portuguese citizenship), no tricks will help him - they took him seriously.
All this has already had a serious impact on Chelsea and is likely to continue to do so in the future. I could be wrong, but this season Chelsea have one of the last chances to win the Champions League, the team is likely to face a crisis ahead.

Well, thanks for letting me know you are actually Russian! Wink

Off-topic: I wish you guys and everyone all the best. May the suffering stop as soon as possible for all those who aren't guilty.

Yes Chelsea will have a hard time, but I don't think the Britain government will let them down completely. If one of those offers get accepted, there will again be a financially healthy individual or consortium supporting Chelsea in the future. Let's see how it plays out.

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Really bad luck for Atletico Madrid like ever against Cristiano Ronaldo, always he go full beast mode against Atletico.

He was in pretty bad form and look, 3 goals in the previous match. Lets see if its again another magic Champions League night for him like the 3 goals he scored that time playing in Juventus vs Atletico.

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It will be a hard game for Juventus versus Villareal.

The team is in a good moment right now but they are missing 10 players.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on March 13, 2022, 05:13:39 PM

... We saw that scenario in the Salzburg - Bayern Munich draw. Bayern Munich literally ended Salzburg in Allianz Arena. Benfica are a much stronger team than Salzburg I think but we are talking about Ajax in the end. They can be really merciless when they want to.

Home team has the upperhand but let's not compare it to what happened in Allianz Arena. I would also love to see another routing or a high scoring game to be honest but I won't be surprised if it ends the other way. Benfica is not to be taken lightly and who knows if the match will be decided in a penalty shootout.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on March 13, 2022, 07:15:50 AM

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Manchester United are going to have a really tough game against Atletico Madrid in a few days. Even though I see Manchester United as the favourite side, their job is still not going to be easy. Atletico Madrid can cause them to have big difficulties and they have an equal chance with Manchester United to advance too. Manchester United had an important victory against Tottenham today and it was a big morale booster for them before this huge game. When Ronaldo plays well, the team are also very good. I hope the same thing happens again.

Yes, the match will going to be tough between Manchester United and Atletico Madrid but Manchester United will definitely achieve the victory at the end of the match. I believe Manchester United coach will like to use Ronaldo for first half because of his performance in today match that made them to defeated Tottenham team 3-2 with the help of Ronaldo that scored 3 goals that made their point to improve. Manchester United coach is fully ready to make use of today match strategies to defeat Atletico Madrid on the 16 of March without allow them to have a goal till the end of the match.

Manchester united winning the match against Tottenham does not give them the express ticket to win Atletico Madrid. Even if they use same formation and use the same players we need to know that it is a different league and also it is a different day and environment.
How did you know that Manchester united coach is ready for the champions league clash?
Is it because Manchester United won last match and we forgot their poor performance easily and expecting wins?
It is going to be a really tough match and Ronaldo may not be the savior.

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Ajax - Benfica is one of the interesting draws too. The first game ended in a draw by 2-2. Benfica showed a big endurance against Ajax and didn't let them win. But there is a feeling like Ajax will crush Benfica in Amsterdam. We saw that scenario in the Salzburg - Bayern Munich draw. Bayern Munich literally ended Salzburg in Allianz Arena. Benfica are a much stronger team than Salzburg I think but we are talking about Ajax in the end. They can be really merciless when they want to.

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Quote from: naira on March 13, 2022, 03:42:01 PM

Quote from: Maidak on March 13, 2022, 03:10:56 PM

On the other hand, Manchester United is not performing consistently and they did win their last match against Tottenham Hotspur but the match was absolutely carried by Cristiano Ronaldo on his back. He scored a hat trick and those were the only three goals that Manchester United scored.

Therefore, Manchester United style of the play rests on Ronaldo, but not in all of these matches supplying Ronaldo with passes for execution. In the match against Tottenham Hotspur alone Ronaldo had a lot of passes. In the quarter-finals, which will be contested later, Ronaldo will continue to be lowered from round 1 because he will be the ideal determinant. While Atletico Madrid already knows such a strategy. It is possible that the match against Atletico Madrid will be quite difficult for Ronaldo to move freely. Manchester United still has Cavani, Pogba, and Rashford.

Ronaldo is still very important for this team. But we can't say that United just depends on this player, that would be disparaging the rest of the players. Ronaldo can be decisive, but there are more players who can decide duels. In the Champions League they have good papers to advance to the next round. If they make it through, a lot will depend on the draw. They have no chance against a team like Bayern or City, as we saw in the competition recently when they were swept off the mat by City.

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Quote from: Maidak on March 13, 2022, 03:10:56 PM

On the other hand, Manchester United is not performing consistently and they did win their last match against Tottenham Hotspur but the match was absolutely carried by Cristiano Ronaldo on his back. He scored a hat trick and those were the only three goals that Manchester United scored.

Therefore, Manchester United style of the play rests on Ronaldo, but not in all of these matches supplying Ronaldo with passes for execution. In the match against Tottenham Hotspur alone Ronaldo had a lot of passes. In the quarter-finals, which will be contested later, Ronaldo will continue to be lowered from round 1 because he will be the ideal determinant. While Atletico Madrid already knows such a strategy. It is possible that the match against Atletico Madrid will be quite difficult for Ronaldo to move freely. Manchester United still has Cavani, Pogba, and Rashford.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 13, 2022, 03:37:13 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on March 13, 2022, 02:52:47 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 12, 2022, 03:50:56 PM

Well, if so, that completely changes things.
Considering that Abramovich made a huge investment in Chelsea (from the money he stole in Putin's Russia), he would have recovered huge funds if they were not completely frozen. It seems that this time such "tricks" will not help him (and I hope other bandits from Putin's gang) and they will at least lose part of their capital.

Not it is official what I said. He is allowed to sell the club but he is not allowed to profit from the sale in anyway. Now I wonder how they will ensure that is going to happen. These guys know so many tricks, saved so many taxes elsewhere probably. I am surprised that he is allowed to sell at all. It is probably to save the football club I guess? I haven't understood it yet in its entirety. If someone knows more , please enlighten me. Does that mean he can take any proceeds from sales as long as there is no profits? Wouldn't that still be against the sanctions?

In fact, I am now paying more attention to other matters (I am from Russia and, as you understand, the war affects me almost directly), so I cannot say for sure the current state of affairs of Abramovich. But judging by the news that I accidentally see (for example, the arrest of a rabbi on the basis of a certificate from which Abramovich received Portuguese citizenship), no tricks will help him - they took him seriously.
All this has already had a serious impact on Chelsea and is likely to continue to do so in the future. I could be wrong, but this season Chelsea have one of the last chances to win the Champions League, the team is likely to face a crisis ahead.

This could well have major consequences for Chelsea, the hassle surrounding Abrahmovic. If Chelsea are really no longer allowed to transfer money, then the players can't be paid either, can they? I wouldn't be surprised if there was a sort of boycott from certain players. Selling players doesn't seem to be an option either? Changing owners seems to be the only remedy, but that is difficult because the money will then have to go to the rightful owner, and those transfers are then blocked again. It would be a shame if this negatively affects Chelsea in the Champions League.

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Quote from: mv1986 on March 13, 2022, 02:52:47 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 12, 2022, 03:50:56 PM

Well, if so, that completely changes things.
Considering that Abramovich made a huge investment in Chelsea (from the money he stole in Putin's Russia), he would have recovered huge funds if they were not completely frozen. It seems that this time such "tricks" will not help him (and I hope other bandits from Putin's gang) and they will at least lose part of their capital.

Not it is official what I said. He is allowed to sell the club but he is not allowed to profit from the sale in anyway. Now I wonder how they will ensure that is going to happen. These guys know so many tricks, saved so many taxes elsewhere probably. I am surprised that he is allowed to sell at all. It is probably to save the football club I guess? I haven't understood it yet in its entirety. If someone knows more , please enlighten me. Does that mean he can take any proceeds from sales as long as there is no profits? Wouldn't that still be against the sanctions?

In fact, I am now paying more attention to other matters (I am from Russia and, as you understand, the war affects me almost directly), so I cannot say for sure the current state of affairs of Abramovich. But judging by the news that I accidentally see (for example, the arrest of a rabbi on the basis of a certificate from which Abramovich received Portuguese citizenship), no tricks will help him - they took him seriously.
All this has already had a serious impact on Chelsea and is likely to continue to do so in the future. I could be wrong, but this season Chelsea have one of the last chances to win the Champions League, the team is likely to face a crisis ahead.

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Quote from: naira on March 13, 2022, 02:28:13 PM

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I hope it will be like that but if you look at their game in the first leg which I think is quite monotonous this could be something boring again.
United will definitely take the initiative in controlling the ball again but in retrospect they have to be really focused in the early minutes because Atletico always press and get goals in the early minutes of the game.

The track records of Man United and Atlético Madrid are quite different and their performances also often experience ups and downs. especially if you look back, Manchester United have fallen more than Atletico Madrid. But don't know in the future if they compete. As much as possible it will be something different, Ronaldo also does not want to continue to slump to see his club lag far behind other teams. Teamwork in the match against Atletico Madrid made Manchester United have to think twice about not including Maguire on the pitch. Expensive pay, but very poor quality for such a high price so not worth it.

Atletico Madrid actually seems to be playing really well in recent times. They have won 4 out of their last five matches. And the other one was the draw against Manchester United.
So, I think Atletico Madrid is in a good run of form right now and they should be able to beat Manchester United.

On the other hand, Manchester United is not performing consistently and they did win their last match against Tottenham Hotspur but the match was absolutely carried by Cristiano Ronaldo on his back. He scored a hat trick and those were the only three goals that Manchester United scored.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 12, 2022, 03:50:56 PM

Quote from: mv1986 on March 12, 2022, 12:07:41 PM

No guys, you got this wrong if I understand it correctly. Abramovich did NOT say that the proceeds will be forwarded to the victims of the war, but any profits from the sale that he might make. In essence, it is quite up to him when it comes to accounting and calculating his investment + expenditures and some potential profit from the sale. He could walk away with zero losses despite being sanctioned. If the full proceeds were to be forwarded to victims, I believe it would be ok. But if it's only the profits, it is just cheap trick to escape sanctions. The oligarchs who benefitted from Putin all their lives should also now pay the bill. You know, you can still have some calm sleep if you like Abramovich: he won't end up broke even without Chelsea Wink

Well, if so, that completely changes things.
Considering that Abramovich made a huge investment in Chelsea (from the money he stole in Putin's Russia), he would have recovered huge funds if they were not completely frozen. It seems that this time such "tricks" will not help him (and I hope other bandits from Putin's gang) and they will at least lose part of their capital.

Not it is official what I said. He is allowed to sell the club but he is not allowed to profit from the sale in anyway. Now I wonder how they will ensure that is going to happen. These guys know so many tricks, saved so many taxes elsewhere probably. I am surprised that he is allowed to sell at all. It is probably to save the football club I guess? I haven't understood it yet in its entirety. If someone knows more , please enlighten me. Does that mean he can take any proceeds from sales as long as there is no profits? Wouldn't that still be against the sanctions?

Anyway, Bayern has to step up their game significantly. The game against Salzburg wasn't really what it looked like. We can see that in the Bundesliga over and over again. The next round might be a real heavy weight in the CL.

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