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Quote from: darxiaomi on March 06, 2022, 05:52:17 PM

I dont see so many people here talking about of the injury of Ronaldo.
Seems like they save him for the UCL game against Atletico, if Cristiano dont play, i think Manchester United its out of the contest.
The manchester seem to play good whitout him , but in this kind of games you need the UCL man and his goals, more against the Atletico.

We really hope that in the next match of UCL Man United vs Atletico Madrid, Hopefully, Ronaldo can play again in excellent condition and completely healthy. Ronaldo's absence certainly had a big impact on Man United. Especially against Man City yesterday, the two strikers (Ronaldo and Cavani) from MU were absent in the match. Although we also know that maybe the influence of Ronaldo in Man United is not as big as when he was in real Madrid, at least, his absence will give certain influence to the club right now.
It is still several days remaining for him to recovery

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I dont see so many people here talking about of the injury of Ronaldo.
Seems like they save him for the UCL game against Atletico, if Cristiano dont play, i think Manchester United its out of the contest.
The manchester seem to play good whitout him , but in this kind of games you need the UCL man and his goals, more against the Atletico.

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Quote from: blackened515 on March 06, 2022, 03:31:37 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on March 06, 2022, 03:09:12 PM

Three days to go for the Real Madrid - PSG game. PSG are keeping their advantage as they won the first game by 1-0. Real Madrid are still a very strong team and one of the candidates for the title also. I expect them to play really great in their home game this time. They would play fearlessly against PSG and wouldn't like to give up on the Champions League easily. They are a very experienced team in this tournament which is a big threat to PSG. But we will see if this experience will really help them advance to next round.

The game will be played at Real Madrid's home. And that will surely boost their morale about winning it. This is a very important game which they don't just have to win. But have to score at least 2 goals in order for them to advance to the next round of the Champions League.
Although, PSG is also a tough team who have an eye on the Champion League title. Therefore, Real Madrid have to be well prepared. However, PSG are at more advantage, they won the first leg with a goal, and just have to draw in the second leg in order to qualify for the next round. Am looking forward to watch this match.

In first league match PSG secure win and this is good advantage for them, but now they are going to play at Real Madrid home which is not easy for them, so they need to have very positive for this game because here win can give them big boost for this year double as they are already French League leaders and their dream is Champions League cup, so this match can be maker or breaker for them in this all process.

In last few matches they are losing against French League teams and have no good chances for goals and on other side Real Madrid is doing very aggressive game with some good number of goals, hopefully we will have some very entertaining game from these both sides for spot of quarter-final spot.

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 06, 2022, 04:06:25 PM

Quote from: ahmia39 on March 06, 2022, 03:39:03 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 05, 2022, 11:44:10 AM

Nonsense. This is all fan fiction far from reality. Neymar is never close to the top, the most overrated player in history, current form is unclear due to injury. Messi is an age-old player from another team and a different playing scheme who has not been able to adapt to the club for a whole season. Mbappe - no questions, a promising and talented player who in the future (in the future but not now) can become a genius.
Best trio? Not even close.

I agree with you, the trio of Neymar - Messi - Mbappe is still far from getting the title of the best trio in the world today. this is not without reason, so far their game collaboration has still not contributed more to their club. I think at the moment a complete and collaborative striker is only at Liverpool. other than that it's just media reviews which are sometimes too exaggerated without any meaningful reality happening on the pitch, like Neymar!

The main problem is that many people just look at names. Perhaps by the names this is really the best trio. But we are not in a FIFA 20XX game where you can put together a team of different players from different times and get a team where all the players are in their prime. It's too late for Messi to be in the best trio, it's too early for Mbappe, and it's hard to evaluate Neymar at all Grin

As for Individuals they are still good but as you said they are still looking at the names and individual skills in looking at the trio.
Even though they have quite good individual skills it doesn't mean they can be very crazy for the trio.
I think for now the clubs in the EPL still have a pretty good trio for now even though their individual abilities can be said to have lost in terms of fame but there are indeed some clubs like Liverpool who make a very good trio now.

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Quote from: ahmia39 on March 06, 2022, 03:39:03 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on March 05, 2022, 11:44:10 AM

Nonsense. This is all fan fiction far from reality. Neymar is never close to the top, the most overrated player in history, current form is unclear due to injury. Messi is an age-old player from another team and a different playing scheme who has not been able to adapt to the club for a whole season. Mbappe - no questions, a promising and talented player who in the future (in the future but not now) can become a genius.
Best trio? Not even close.

I agree with you, the trio of Neymar - Messi - Mbappe is still far from getting the title of the best trio in the world today. this is not without reason, so far their game collaboration has still not contributed more to their club. I think at the moment a complete and collaborative striker is only at Liverpool. other than that it's just media reviews which are sometimes too exaggerated without any meaningful reality happening on the pitch, like Neymar!

The main problem is that many people just look at names. Perhaps by the names this is really the best trio. But we are not in a FIFA 20XX game where you can put together a team of different players from different times and get a team where all the players are in their prime. It's too late for Messi to be in the best trio, it's too early for Mbappe, and it's hard to evaluate Neymar at all Grin

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 05, 2022, 11:44:10 AM

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 04, 2022, 08:16:07 AM

I think that in the optimal composition, when the Vinicius-Benzema combination plays in Real Madrid, the attack of Real Madrid is at least as good as that of PSG. I don't remember saying otherwise, maybe I put it wrong (or you misunderstood). As for the result, when two strong clubs meet (and not Bayern - Salzburg for example), any result is not surprising.

To think that ANY trio would be better than "neymar-mbappe-messi" trio is delusional. I mean we are talking about the three amazing players here that would be hard to compete against in any situation and it would be near impossible to catch them even if you spent a billion dollars to build a club. And we have other players there and behind them that could replace and make it closer.

Like for example, if you put di maria there, instead of neymar, then you could be closer, or if you remove mbappe and put someone else then it could be closer, but when we are talking about these three at the same time then the talent level just exceeds anything we have seen since neymar-messi-suarez trio (weird they have the same two).

Nonsense. This is all fan fiction far from reality. Neymar is never close to the top, the most overrated player in history, current form is unclear due to injury. Messi is an age-old player from another team and a different playing scheme who has not been able to adapt to the club for a whole season. Mbappe - no questions, a promising and talented player who in the future (in the future but not now) can become a genius.
Best trio? Not even close.

I agree with you, the trio of Neymar - Messi - Mbappe is still far from getting the title of the best trio in the world today. this is not without reason, so far their game collaboration has still not contributed more to their club. I think at the moment a complete and collaborative striker is only at Liverpool. other than that it's just media reviews which are sometimes too exaggerated without any meaningful reality happening on the pitch, like Neymar!

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on March 06, 2022, 03:09:12 PM

Three days to go for the Real Madrid - PSG game. PSG are keeping their advantage as they won the first game by 1-0. Real Madrid are still a very strong team and one of the candidates for the title also. I expect them to play really great in their home game this time. They would play fearlessly against PSG and wouldn't like to give up on the Champions League easily. They are a very experienced team in this tournament which is a big threat to PSG. But we will see if this experience will really help them advance to next round.

The game will be played at Real Madrid's home. And that will surely boost their morale about winning it. This is a very important game which they don't just have to win. But have to score at least 2 goals in order for them to advance to the next round of the Champions League.
Although, PSG is also a tough team who have an eye on the Champion League title. Therefore, Real Madrid have to be well prepared. However, PSG are at more advantage, they won the first leg with a goal, and just have to draw in the second leg in order to qualify for the next round. Am looking forward to watch this match.

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Three days to go for the Real Madrid - PSG game. PSG are keeping their advantage as they won the first game by 1-0. Real Madrid are still a very strong team and one of the candidates for the title also. I expect them to play really great in their home game this time. They would play fearlessly against PSG and wouldn't like to give up on the Champions League easily. They are a very experienced team in this tournament which is a big threat to PSG. But we will see if this experience will really help them advance to next round.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 06, 2022, 03:16:45 AM

Quote from: terrorJR on March 05, 2022, 02:35:09 PM

Not only City, even 2 other EPL clubs can be said to be strong candidates for qualification because Liverpool and Chelsea are also doing the same thing.
On the other hand, their performance is still quite good compared to their opponents.
In the 2nd Leg later for City, I even feel that I will not work too hard, even though the match will still be run but having to win against a club like City by pursuing an aggregate of 5 goals is not an easy thing to do

City have frozen a very good starting capital by being able to relax a bit in the second leg because they will only keep the ball very well in order to qualify for the next round although will not be too insistent on scoring more goals, but if the opportunity is there, I think the side City also will not ignore it in the second leg match later.

I personally feel they will still play their tier players now considering the importance of rotation there because of the hectic schedule that City has to go through
Even though they play with tier players, this doesn't mean they underestimate their opponents because their reserve players are quite strong, I think.
The game at the Etihad will still be difficult for Sporting CP even if they perform optimally in the domestic league but this will not have much impact in the UCL

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Quote from: izsara on March 06, 2022, 02:18:11 PM

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Not at all, they only trail by a lone goal, and for a team of their standard it is more than recoverable, all they have to do is enter the game with a better tactic than they did in the first leg, they were too timid and not willing to commit men forward, it was more or less like they were just praying for a draw, but Mbappe had other ideas right at the death.
Madrid must come out and put pressure on PSG, afterall they are already behind heading into the game, so it is going to be foolish to concentrate solely on defense, i am pretty sure the two teams are going to entertain us, and since i am neutral in this one, may the better team win.

Yes, Madrid should not apply a defensive strategy in the second leg later but indeed, implementing a full attack is also a concern because we know PSG's players have good speed and finishing because of the many top players there. Even though the second leg was played at the Santiago Bernabéu but with such quality of players then of course this is a match that will still be difficult for both teams, I personally don't believe in many goals because PSG's defense could also be very strong because they will maintain the advantage 1-0 that they already have.

They did that in the first leg and it was a failure. Indeed, to maximize counter-attacks, I think it's still quite good considering PSG's attack is really sporadic but on the other hand they also have to remember that they are still 1 goal behind on their Aggregate which makes them inevitably have to play more insistently in my opinion.
They have to play at risk until they can atleast equalize in my opinion

I think that Real Madrid is going to play really offensive in the second leg because they already have to overcome a one goal deficit. I am also not convinced that PSG is going to defend properly against them. I think it's going to be a tricky one for PSG because I guess they are not sure if they want to defend the lead that they already have or play attacking football.

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Quote from: hahay on March 06, 2022, 09:02:23 AM

Quote from: Coyster on March 06, 2022, 08:48:28 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on March 06, 2022, 06:24:08 AM

Real Madrid are of course in trouble as they are disadvantageous now. But there is still nothing ended for them.

Not at all, they only trail by a lone goal, and for a team of their standard it is more than recoverable, all they have to do is enter the game with a better tactic than they did in the first leg, they were too timid and not willing to commit men forward, it was more or less like they were just praying for a draw, but Mbappe had other ideas right at the death.

Madrid must come out and put pressure on PSG, afterall they are already behind heading into the game, so it is going to be foolish to concentrate solely on defense, i am pretty sure the two teams are going to entertain us, and since i am neutral in this one, may the better team win.

Yes, Madrid should not apply a defensive strategy in the second leg later but indeed, implementing a full attack is also a concern because we know PSG's players have good speed and finishing because of the many top players there. Even though the second leg was played at the Santiago Bernabéu but with such quality of players then of course this is a match that will still be difficult for both teams, I personally don't believe in many goals because PSG's defense could also be very strong because they will maintain the advantage 1-0 that they already have.

They did that in the first leg and it was a failure. Indeed, to maximize counter-attacks, I think it's still quite good considering PSG's attack is really sporadic but on the other hand they also have to remember that they are still 1 goal behind on their Aggregate which makes them inevitably have to play more insistently in my opinion.
They have to play at risk until they can atleast equalize in my opinion

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Quote from: Daniel91 on March 06, 2022, 06:46:20 AM

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We are only two days far from the beginning of the rematches. And on January 8, there are two games:
Bayern Munich vs Salzburg
Liverpool vs Inter
The first leg of the former matchup ended in a draw by 1-1. And Salzburg would have even won that game too. I didn't like Bayern Munich's performance at all but I don't expect it to affect their performance in the second leg badly either. I think Bayern Munich will crush Salzburg in this game. And when it comes to the latter, Liverpool are already in a comfortable situation as they won the first leg by 2-0. It was not easy though but the result was the most important point. I think they will win here again and finish this.

I agree with you that the hosts are in a big advantage and favorites to advance to the next round of the competition.
Bayern have not been playing well in the German championship lately, so their poor result and play in the first game in Salzburg is not a surprise for me.
In fact, they should have lost that game, but with a lot of luck, they drew, which now gives them a good chance for an overall victory.
Inter also played a very good game against Liverpool and deserved a much better result.
However, they didn't take their chances in the game and Liverpool is big favorite now for overall victory.
Let's not forget, however, that this is the Champions League and that there have been bigger surprises in this competition before Grin

I agree that there have been bigger surprises in the Champions League but this time it seems like something like that is not going to happen. Because Liverpool is in their home ground in the second leg and they already have two goals advantage. And Bayern Munich does not seem to be losing in the next match against Salzburg. It was already a surprise when the first match was a draw and I think they will be ready this time.

And the most interesting match, in my opinion, is going to be Real Madrid vs PSG because PSG just lost a match against a team which they should have won in my opinion.

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Quote from: borovichok on March 06, 2022, 04:11:24 AM

With current form in domestic leagues am very sure that real Madrid will qualify on aggregate in the second leg against Paris Saint Germain, real Madrid have good players that can turn this tier around, because Paris Saint Germain are performing very poorly this season,I sometimes wonder why big clubs are still going after Mauricio Pochetino, you can't have Messi Neymar and Mbappe and still be performing badly is not normal.

Making predictions based on the regular league games is not a smart method. I mean we are talking about teams that worth maybe like a billion dollars or something, they would be smart enough to not care about regular league games, whereas playing their hardest at the champions league.

Imagine it this way, if you were in a lot of ease during the league, be a leader with like ton of points difference, wouldn't you care to just relax a bit and play with less motivation and just get ready for the real important game? Or if you were Madrid, and have Sevilla right at your tail, wouldn't that game matter more? So, it is all about relativity here and I believe PSG is still by far the better team.

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Correct, but PSG really has zero pressure to win any of the left games in Ligue 1. They'd rather try not to get injured and there is no doubt that PSG played an astonishing first leg against Real in the CL. Real themselves said that the best on that evening was that the result only was a 1-0. It could have been much much worse.

PSG only played for the draw, they were "comfortable" thinking they had control of the game and didn't expect to concede a goal from Nice at the end of the second half, now they have to run after the damage.
This was the last match of the team before the 'decision' against Real Madrid, for the round of 16 of the Champions League.
Will this defeat influence players' moods for the next game?

PSG lost the match against Nice and that is the reason why don't trust the defense of PSG e against Real Madrid in the upcoming UEFA Champions League match.

But to be fair I think Nice played really well this season and earned their second spot in the table. But PSG really should have won the match and I am sure Real Madrid will be keeping a close eye on PSG. I think PSG underestimated their opponent and paid the price for it.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 06, 2022, 10:08:23 AM

I think they were a bit lucky to just lose 1-0 in the first leg. The next game will be at the Bernabeu, an advantage that must be taken advantage of. It might look difficult to win 2-0 but they have that ability. They have a good mentality after a 4-1 win to real Sociedad. Of course, this makes them more confident. Their players are also in the best condition. They had to put pressure on PSG from the start match and immediately to score.

Madrid only have a 1-0 challenge to equalize in the second leg but it is not a difficult challenge for 2 halves, but madrid need to strengthen the back line to avoid getting extra score for PSG, the second match will be awesome to decide the winner between two big clubs.

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Watching the first game between Paris St German and Real Madrid I came away with the feeling Madrid lacked quality and talent. However, with the likes of luka Modric and Karim Benzema Madrid can change a game in an instant. At the bernabeu as well, the French team will have to make sure their defences are not deterred by the cacophony of the spanish fans. Look out for the super star duo of mbappe and messi to lye dormant until the moments ready. Casimero and Veratti to be booked for you betting fans . Also this week, man united v athletico madrid will be a tense battle of chances missed, both teams lack real quality to win the champions league; therefore each decision on the pitch will be analysed. Other than that, City will dominate lisbon at the emptyhad, slazburg try to upset bayern liverpool and inter will battle it out in anfield, i see no real upset here with liverpool in fine form.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on March 06, 2022, 06:24:08 AM

Real Madrid are of course in trouble as they are disadvantageous now. But there is still nothing ended for them. They will attack with all they have got against PSG in Santiago Bernabeu. And I'm feeling confident that they will make PSG have a hard time here. If Real Madrid score before them, then the game could be even more interesting. Because both of the teams will need to play carefully in that case. And we can even see the extra time and penalty shoot-outs. And this matchup really deserves a big competition.

Hope is still high for them, 1 point aggregate although it is very difficult to follow considering the opponent is PSG but on the other hand this is Barnebeu which is quite haunted for some teams and it is not only a small team but also a big team and PSG could slip there even though indeed they are superior.
I personally really want this Leg 2 to be at Real Madrid but it takes a big sacrifice for that

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Quote from: Coyster on March 06, 2022, 08:48:28 AM

Not at all, they only trail by a lone goal, and for a team of their standard it is more than recoverable, all they have to do is enter the game with a better tactic than they did in the first leg, they were too timid and not willing to commit men forward, it was more or less like they were just praying for a draw, but Mbappe had other ideas right at the death.

Madrid must come out and put pressure on PSG, afterall they are already behind heading into the game, so it is going to be foolish to concentrate solely on defense, i am pretty sure the two teams are going to entertain us, and since i am neutral in this one, may the better team win.

I think they were a bit lucky to just lose 1-0 in the first leg. The next game will be at the Bernabeu, an advantage that must be taken advantage of. It might look difficult to win 2-0 but they have that ability. They have a good mentality after a 4-1 win to real Sociedad. Of course, this makes them more confident. Their players are also in the best condition. They had to put pressure on PSG from the start match and immediately to score.

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Quote from: Coyster on March 06, 2022, 08:48:28 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on March 06, 2022, 06:24:08 AM

Real Madrid are of course in trouble as they are disadvantageous now. But there is still nothing ended for them.

Not at all, they only trail by a lone goal, and for a team of their standard it is more than recoverable, all they have to do is enter the game with a better tactic than they did in the first leg, they were too timid and not willing to commit men forward, it was more or less like they were just praying for a draw, but Mbappe had other ideas right at the death.

Madrid must come out and put pressure on PSG, afterall they are already behind heading into the game, so it is going to be foolish to concentrate solely on defense, i am pretty sure the two teams are going to entertain us, and since i am neutral in this one, may the better team win.

Real Madrid just got a big win in their domestic league this week, I'm sure it will boost their mentality better, and in contrast to PSG who suffered a defeat in their domestic league this week.
for the second leg match later I believe both teams will play openly and attack each other, of course it will be very interesting.
falling behind by 1 goal is not the end of everything, anything can still happen especially this second leg match will be played at home to Real Madird Santiago Bernabeu. I think the chances of qualifying are still 50-50 for both teams.

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Quote from: hahay on March 06, 2022, 09:02:23 AM

Quote from: Coyster on March 06, 2022, 08:48:28 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on March 06, 2022, 06:24:08 AM

Real Madrid are of course in trouble as they are disadvantageous now. But there is still nothing ended for them.

Not at all, they only trail by a lone goal, and for a team of their standard it is more than recoverable, all they have to do is enter the game with a better tactic than they did in the first leg, they were too timid and not willing to commit men forward, it was more or less like they were just praying for a draw, but Mbappe had other ideas right at the death.

Madrid must come out and put pressure on PSG, afterall they are already behind heading into the game, so it is going to be foolish to concentrate solely on defense, i am pretty sure the two teams are going to entertain us, and since i am neutral in this one, may the better team win.

Yes, Madrid should not apply a defensive strategy in the second leg later but indeed, implementing a full attack is also a concern because we know PSG's players have good speed and finishing because of the many top players there. Even though the second leg was played at the Santiago Bernabéu but with such quality of players then of course this is a match that will still be difficult for both teams, I personally don't believe in many goals because PSG's defense could also be very strong because they will maintain the advantage 1-0 that they already have.

In my opinion, for PSG class who will play in Leg 2, the results from Leg 1 are still quite lacking. If you play defensively for more than 90 minutes, it is feared that the onslaught of Real Madrid players will make them weaker. No matter how strong PSG defense is with a defensive style, it is possible for Real Madrid to turn things around. At least the PSG players continued to increase the rhythm of the game and secured more than 1 point.

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