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Quote from: muratsink on March 01, 2022, 04:46:16 AM

Manchester United's draw in the first leg did provide capital when hosting Atletico Madrid at Old Trafford, but currently Manchester United appear so sluggish in the English league where they were held to a draw by lower team Watford in the English league, where next week they having to face Manchester city and also Tottenham hotspurs can certainly make the Manchester united players so drained of energy before having to face the second leg against Atletico Madrid, if you don't rotate a lot of players in the EPL match it will be very difficult for Manchester united to silence Atletico Madrid at their old headquarters Trafford stadium

Reality is that United never really truly deserved to be here to begin with. They may have "changed" some stuff, but with Ole they were horrible and they did horrible in the league and somehow did better than expected during the group stages.

It is clear indicator that they haven't been proper in a long time and them being in champions league is just pure luck. Even if they manage to go to next stage now, they would be eliminated because they are not good enough to win anything to begin with. They have faced relatively easy opponents or opponents not on their best day and so far they been just riding that wave all the way to this game, not like ATM is any better by the way.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 01, 2022, 02:30:02 AM

I personally feel that the home advantage should help Manchester United win this match, but Ralf will need to get his tactics right for the game. Furthermore I wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped Ronaldo for this match, and yes he’ll be heavily criticised for it, but I feel that he should take this gamble as it’s clear that he’s not happy with Ronaldo’s performances.

Lately Old Trafford has been anything but a fortress, and teams are no longer afraid to face Manchester United on their home turf, they have dropped numerous points at home this season, so i am afraid, being at home could count for nothing in this game. I have noticed Ronaldo has been taking some stick lately, but i do not think he is the only one underperforming, there are a couple of other players that are not at their best, but the thing with Ronaldo is that it is difficult to bench him, and that seems to be the problem the manager is having at the moment, if the manager is not happy with any player, he should be given the liberty to bench such person, even it is Ronaldo as he is not bigger than the team, no one is.

What you say is quite reasonable, if we look at this season, there have been quite a few matches at home where Man United failed to win.
So facing Atletico in the second leg of Man United is not necessarily a win, so don't be too happy for Man United supporters that the second leg
will be played at Old Trafford. Man United must improve their weaknesses, which between Man United players do not have good cooperation.
I often see Man United players being too selfish and relying too much on individual skills. Then the other thing is that several senior Man United
players have experienced declining performances and Rangnick must have the courage to rotate players. Don't because of the big name Ronaldo has,
it makes Rangnick not dare to rotate on the front lines. Team interests are much more important, Rangnick must show courage as a leader.
If he can't do that, Rangnick will have a hard time making Man United's performance improve.

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In the meantime, bookmaker quotes for the match at the moment are as follows:
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2,55 - 3,60 - 2,70

Great odds, I'll take both draw and PSG to win on this game because pretty sure that its going to be another draw or PSG might be lucky and score another goal again on the 2nd leg. Real Madrid is not going to be able to catch up with PSG because they have literally shown everything that they had on the 1st leg and yet they cant score a single goal against PSG

You can immediately place one bet instead of two on "PSG advance to the next stage in regular time". If I remember correctly, the odds are around 1.4. The chances of the same event but for Real Madrid are more than 3 (now I can’t see exactly because I need a VPN). I think to make this bet because I believe in Real Madrid. By the way, if you make two bets, you run the risk of getting into a situation where, for example, Real Madrid wins by a goal difference - and then it doesn’t matter who wins later (in extra time or in a penalty shoot-out) as your two bets will burn out.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 01, 2022, 02:30:02 AM

I personally feel that the home advantage should help Manchester United win this match, but Ralf will need to get his tactics right for the game. Furthermore I wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped Ronaldo for this match, and yes he’ll be heavily criticised for it, but I feel that he should take this gamble as it’s clear that he’s not happy with Ronaldo’s performances.

Lately Old Trafford has been anything but a fortress, and teams are no longer afraid to face Manchester United on their home turf, they have dropped numerous points at home this season, so i am afraid, being at home could count for nothing in this game. I have noticed Ronaldo has been taking some stick lately, but i do not think he is the only one underperforming, there are a couple of other players that are not at their best, but the thing with Ronaldo is that it is difficult to bench him, and that seems to be the problem the manager is having at the moment, if the manager is not happy with any player, he should be given the liberty to bench such person, even it is Ronaldo as he is not bigger than the team, no one is.

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Quote from: tyz on March 01, 2022, 06:11:58 AM

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Obviously, I also agree with what you have said because from the first leg it was very clear that Liverpool always played very well and Inter Milan couldn't do much at that time.
Likewise with the match in the second leg later, Inter Milan will be very difficult to win or beat Liverpool with a very good team performance at this time.

The problem with Inter Milan is that they have been increasingly in a slump for weeks. This can also be seen in the league, where they had a good lead at one point as top of the table, but have since been caught up by AC Milan and Napoli. Therefore, the performance in the first leg against Liverpool was no surprise. I think Liverpool will move into the next round with confidence.

It is very difficult indeed to maximize the results of the match but on the other hand they are also faced with a hectic schedule which makes their players lack of rest which makes their performance inevitably decline slightly.
Serie A, UCL and the Italian Cup of course are not easy enough, especially their opponents can't be underestimated because they are quite big and capable teams.

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Quote from: mamesso on March 01, 2022, 02:34:38 PM

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With Inter current form, not much to be expected, their opponent is a club that is in excellent form every game. So it's clear that Liverpool will be very ready to face Inter later in Leg 2. This may be the result will not be much different, it's just that we might want to keep seeing a tight match from Inter. At least give the best even in unfavorable circumstances.

Liverpool chances of qualifying for the last 8 are quite open, Jurgen Klopp men only needed to draw 0-0 when they played the second leg. Although Inter was able to score one goal at Anfield, Liverpool will still qualify for the last 8 of the Champions League.
It will be a tough job for the Nerazzurri, because Inter is slumped in the last few games, they have to drop to 3rd position in Serie-A due to dropping points in several matches.
In their last 3 meetings in the UCL, Liverpool managed to win the match with Inter Milan.

To change things in order to secure a ticket to the top 8, Inter has to score 3 goals and keep their goal clean, but the problem is Liverpool performance much better than Inter plus the second leg will take a place at Liverpool pride Stdion.

In the first leg liverpool managed to beat Intermilan at San Siro with a score of 0-2, with a defeat at home it is clear that Inter Milan will be increasingly difficult to catch up with goals at Anfield later, I think stealing goals at Anfield is not an easy thing to do, especially during this time anfield often presents nightmares for teams from Italy, maybe later Inter Milan will be able to score goals at Liverpool cage but in my opinion these goals will not be able to make Inter Milan qualify for the next round, because so far I have seen that teams like Liverpool are too big it's hard to concede without scoring a goal back at home. my prediction for the second leg match later maybe liverpool and intermilan will draw 1-1 at anfield.

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Competitions of 2008 are no longer a barometer for now. That was too long ago, and there are completely different teams. Inter suffered a painful defeat at home, so I can't imagine they will rectify this in Liverpool. If they are able to make 0-1 quickly, they still have a chance. Then the chance is still small that Inter will continue. They have already given away first place in the competition, so they are not in a good flow.

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Quote from: naira on March 01, 2022, 11:51:15 AM

With Inter current form, not much to be expected, their opponent is a club that is in excellent form every game. So it's clear that Liverpool will be very ready to face Inter later in Leg 2. This may be the result will not be much different, it's just that we might want to keep seeing a tight match from Inter. At least give the best even in unfavorable circumstances.

Liverpool chances of qualifying for the last 8 are quite open, Jurgen Klopp men only needed to draw 0-0 when they played the second leg. Although Inter was able to score one goal at Anfield, Liverpool will still qualify for the last 8 of the Champions League.
It will be a tough job for the Nerazzurri, because Inter is slumped in the last few games, they have to drop to 3rd position in Serie-A due to dropping points in several matches.
In their last 3 meetings in the UCL, Liverpool managed to win the match with Inter Milan.

To change things in order to secure a ticket to the top 8, Inter has to score 3 goals and keep their goal clean, but the problem is Liverpool performance much better than Inter plus the second leg will take a place at Liverpool pride Stdion.

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I don't think they need to think about the distant matches, it's better that they focus on the closest matches. Because, if they think about a distant match, they will be burdened with it.
I hope Ralf Rangnick can rotate players to reduce their physical risk. Yes although it's risky because it's a big game. But it's not wrong if you want to try a new strategy, and hope that the players who are given the opportunity to perform optimally.

I personally feel that the home advantage should help Manchester United win this match, but Ralf will need to get his tactics right for the game. Furthermore I wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped Ronaldo for this match, and yes he’ll be heavily criticised for it, but I feel that he should take this gamble as it’s clear that he’s not happy with Ronaldo’s performances.

Although Manchester United has the opportunity to win this match because they are the host, Atletico Madrid will not let that happen, because I think Manchester United's game is predictable and inconsistent which Atletico Madrid will take advantage of.
In the second leg it will be a tough task for Ralf Rangnick to manage players and strategies that have not been satisfactory because in the EPL against the bottom team only able to play a draw, Atletico Madrid's game is very aggressive and also fast and that is something that must be considered.

Well, Manchester United is going to have some advantage obviously because it is their home match but the problem is they are not playing at their best right now. They have been really inconsistent all throughout the season. Basically, they have not shown the performance that can give us the confidence to say that they are going to win against Atletico Madrid. On the other hand, Atletico Madrid has also not been in the best of form. But they have been better than Manchester United in my opinion.

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I think that Inter are already eliminated from the Champions League. I mean that they gave their best in the first leg in Giuseppe Meazza but Liverpool still managed to win by 2-0. And this is an enormous advantage for Liverpool already. Because we all know how much spectacular they are performing in Anfield. It is like there is no way Inter are even drawing with Liverpool here. Liverpool can get a bigger win or maybe a win by a similar score. But I'm pretty sure that they will finish this by winning in this home game for them too.

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Quote from: tyz on March 01, 2022, 06:11:58 AM

The problem with Inter Milan is that they have been increasingly in a slump for weeks. This can also be seen in the league, where they had a good lead at one point as top of the table, but have since been caught up by AC Milan and Napoli. Therefore, the performance in the first leg against Liverpool was no surprise. I think Liverpool will move into the next round with confidence.

I also don't see Inter doing better in England. Liverpool are well motivated, they are still in the race for the victory of the English Premier League, they have just won the League Cup and so they have every reason to fight well in that match.
Inter have to be aware of several factors, in addition to having to recover from a 2-goal difference, they still have to be careful for their position in Serie A not to be in question.

I think that inter is going to be more focused on their League games because they have a really good chance of being at the top by winning the next match. That might cause them to overlook the UEFA Champions League matches, and the match with Liverpool is hard already because Liverpool has a 2 goal lead. I don't think inter has any chance, to be honest.

You are right. Looking at Inter Milan's performance in the Champions League, I don't think their goal is a title. I was not satisfied with their performance on the group stage either. At the moment they have lost a lot of points in Serie A and lost the top spot in the table. They are the third team at the table. Now if they do not improve their performance in Serie A then gradually they will fall further behind and move away from the title. So maybe they will give more priority to Serie A matches now.

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Quote from: Tony116 on March 01, 2022, 12:59:31 PM

It's not about underestimating Inter Milan but I really don't think that they have much of a chance in this match against Liverpool in the Champions League because they already have to overcome a 2 goal deficit. And they have also the added pressure of their league matches because they cannot afford to do any slip-ups there as well. Liverpool is obviously going to take advantage of the two goals that they have.

I don't think Inter Milan will be able to qualify for the next round. However, I do not think they will lose this match. My guess is the match will be drawn 1-1. However, the Inter Milan team is unpredictable. Although Liverpool is a strong team, we cannot say for sure that Liverpool will win. Inter Milan have the potential to be devastating at home. So I'm looking forward to watching a competitive match.

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Inter Milan can't play draw against Liverpool when you look from their performances, having salah and sadio in Liverpool am very sure any of their match there is hope for Liverpool to do greatly. To be honest Liverpool has been doing best in their performance. It will be very difficult for inter Milan to win the game.

Do not underestimate the Inter Milan team. Inter Milan is a strong enough team, and the bigger thing is that they are a very experienced team. Liverpool are certainly strong, no doubt, but it is not certain that they will win with Inter Milan. If Inter Milan are able to play with their main squad, and if their key player will not be injured, then I would expect a draw in this match.

Yes, i agree.. but is UNPREDICTABLE TEAM

he doesn't have a clear and stable performance, he plays a bit like that, depending on the mood and the day
if he could use 100% all his strength always, he would win practically all the games .. unfortunately he has a management that makes you laugh

It's not about underestimating Inter Milan but I really don't think that they have much of a chance in this match against Liverpool in the Champions League because they already have to overcome a 2 goal deficit. And they have also the added pressure of their league matches because they cannot afford to do any slip-ups there as well. Liverpool is obviously going to take advantage of the two goals that they have.

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Quote from: imamusma on March 01, 2022, 06:02:43 AM

Quote from: Masplanc on February 28, 2022, 03:13:23 PM

Inter Milan can't play draw against Liverpool when you look from their performances, having salah and sadio in Liverpool am very sure any of their match there is hope for Liverpool to do greatly. To be honest Liverpool has been doing best in their performance. It will be very difficult for inter Milan to win the game.

Obviously, I also agree with what you have said because from the first leg it was very clear that Liverpool always played very well and Inter Milan couldn't do much at that time.
Likewise with the match in the second leg later, Inter Milan will be very difficult to win or beat Liverpool with a very good team performance at this time.

Also, the 2nd leg will be held at Anfield which of course a good result for Liverpool is something for sure. There's nothing Inter can hope for with at least 2 goals to make it a draw, but to be honest it's something that is difficult for Inter to achieve. Not only that, Inter's performance, which has also declined in Serie A, looks like Inter really doesn't have any hope of going further in the UCL. Even though we hope for a miracle for Inter, it is still difficult because we know Liverpool after being coached by Klopp have become a better team.

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Quote from: tyz on March 01, 2022, 06:11:58 AM

Quote from: imamusma on March 01, 2022, 06:02:43 AM

Obviously, I also agree with what you have said because from the first leg it was very clear that Liverpool always played very well and Inter Milan couldn't do much at that time.
Likewise with the match in the second leg later, Inter Milan will be very difficult to win or beat Liverpool with a very good team performance at this time.

The problem with Inter Milan is that they have been increasingly in a slump for weeks. This can also be seen in the league, where they had a good lead at one point as top of the table, but have since been caught up by AC Milan and Napoli. Therefore, the performance in the first leg against Liverpool was no surprise. I think Liverpool will move into the next round with confidence.

With Inter current form, not much to be expected, their opponent is a club that is in excellent form every game. So it's clear that Liverpool will be very ready to face Inter later in Leg 2. This may be the result will not be much different, it's just that we might want to keep seeing a tight match from Inter. At least give the best even in unfavorable circumstances.

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 01, 2022, 09:18:30 AM

Quote from: tyz on March 01, 2022, 06:11:58 AM

The problem with Inter Milan is that they have been increasingly in a slump for weeks. This can also be seen in the league, where they had a good lead at one point as top of the table, but have since been caught up by AC Milan and Napoli. Therefore, the performance in the first leg against Liverpool was no surprise. I think Liverpool will move into the next round with confidence.

I also don't see Inter doing better in England. Liverpool are well motivated, they are still in the race for the victory of the English Premier League, they have just won the League Cup and so they have every reason to fight well in that match.

Inter have to be aware of several factors, in addition to having to recover from a 2-goal difference, they still have to be careful for their position in Serie A not to be in question.

I think that inter is going to be more focused on their League games because they have a really good chance of being at the top by winning the next match. That might cause them to overlook the UEFA Champions League matches, and the match with Liverpool is hard already because Liverpool has a 2 goal lead. I don't think inter has any chance, to be honest.

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If Juventus or anyone underestimate Villarreal, it is clearly understandable. The truth is at this stage of the competition, experience comes into play. Not just experience of the players or how good they are but the pedigree of the club in such competition.
Juventus is clearly a bigger dog in European football stage than Villarreal and these things though may look insignificant but do play roles in games like this.

Italians are bad this year! I guess we can't expect much from Inter, they lost the first game, and they will probably lose once again in England... For sure Inter will not surrender, but chances for Inter to do something are very low, they need some miracle I guess to win!
I think that Villareal has a decent chance! They showed they can play against Juve and if they repeat the same game maybe we will see penalties in this game!

To be honest, I don't see Inter Milan getting a draw in England because the team has not been consistent in their league so far so coming to play Against Liverpool in England is fine but getting a Draw is what I don't think can happen because Liverpool is in good shape and form.
Juv against Villarreal is going to be a big game but from the look of things experience will play a vital role and I believe both sides have had good experience in the competition.

Inter Milan can achieve a draw against Liverpool in the 2nd leg with the following considerations:
1. that it is possible that Klopp will keep or reserve several important players with the reason of maintaining fitness for an important match in the domestic league (EPL) in pursuit of points in order to move up to first place in the standings.

2. If Inter Milan focus on Serie A, then the game at Anfield will be relaxed.

You need to know, Inter Milan is an Italian club that has a great history in football and Liverpool also has a great history in the champions league.

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Quote from: tyz on March 01, 2022, 06:11:58 AM

The problem with Inter Milan is that they have been increasingly in a slump for weeks. This can also be seen in the league, where they had a good lead at one point as top of the table, but have since been caught up by AC Milan and Napoli. Therefore, the performance in the first leg against Liverpool was no surprise. I think Liverpool will move into the next round with confidence.

I also don't see Inter doing better in England. Liverpool are well motivated, they are still in the race for the victory of the English Premier League, they have just won the League Cup and so they have every reason to fight well in that match.

Inter have to be aware of several factors, in addition to having to recover from a 2-goal difference, they still have to be careful for their position in Serie A not to be in question.

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Quote from: imamusma on March 01, 2022, 06:02:43 AM

Obviously, I also agree with what you have said because from the first leg it was very clear that Liverpool always played very well and Inter Milan couldn't do much at that time.
Likewise with the match in the second leg later, Inter Milan will be very difficult to win or beat Liverpool with a very good team performance at this time.

The problem with Inter Milan is that they have been increasingly in a slump for weeks. This can also be seen in the league, where they had a good lead at one point as top of the table, but have since been caught up by AC Milan and Napoli. Therefore, the performance in the first leg against Liverpool was no surprise. I think Liverpool will move into the next round with confidence.

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Quote from: Masplanc on February 28, 2022, 03:13:23 PM

Inter Milan can't play draw against Liverpool when you look from their performances, having salah and sadio in Liverpool am very sure any of their match there is hope for Liverpool to do greatly. To be honest Liverpool has been doing best in their performance. It will be very difficult for inter Milan to win the game.

Obviously, I also agree with what you have said because from the first leg it was very clear that Liverpool always played very well and Inter Milan couldn't do much at that time.
Likewise with the match in the second leg later, Inter Milan will be very difficult to win or beat Liverpool with a very good team performance at this time.

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