UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 393.

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Quote from: terrorJR on February 27, 2022, 02:36:12 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on February 27, 2022, 10:50:15 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 27, 2022, 08:43:40 AM

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything

It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate

To be honest, if you look at Madrid's performance in the first leg, I am quite skeptical of them even though they are playing at home in the second leg.
But there are some reasons that are quite logical there because Benzema's first leg is still not in a good way because at that time he even had doubts about playing due to the Hamstring Injury he received and Benzema's fielding became a gamble for Anceloti, But maybe now it will be a little different Benzema and the other players should not be so bad now because they are currently in good form again after some time ago the crisis of victory in the domestic league.

In any case, Real Madrid must play to win if they are going to continue the fight to win the Champions League. Also, in addition to the Real Madrid game itself, much will depend on which model of the game Paris Saint Germain chooses. But still, I don't think Paris Saint-Germain will choose the same cowardly manner of play that the Real Madrid players demonstrated without striking a single shot on goal in the first match of the confrontation. With all due respect to Rayo Vallecano, I still think that Paris Saint-Germain is higher class and will be able to cause more trouble to the gates of the club from Madrid. And as we know, Real Madrid was able to score only a single goal in the 83rd minute of the meeting.

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Quote from: arallmuus on February 27, 2022, 10:50:15 AM

It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate

The away goal rule was scrapped. If PSG scored 1 goal, Real Madrid would need to win by at least 2:1 to take the match to extra time and possibly penalties. With the old away goal rule, it would be a huge hill for Real Madrid to climb if PSG scored at least a goal in Bernebeu.

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Juventus are not a very clear favourite against Villarreal to me and bookmakers think the same as me too as it seems. Because Juventus have an odd around 1.80. This doesn't make any team an absolute favourite to win a match. Villarreal are not a team that should be underestimated. Maybe the match in Spain ended in a 1-1 draw but Juventus should still play very aware against them. And if Juventus score before them, I will be definitely sure about that they will be the team to promote to the next round.

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Quote from: arallmuus on February 27, 2022, 10:50:15 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 27, 2022, 08:43:40 AM

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything

It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate

To be honest, if you look at Madrid's performance in the first leg, I am quite skeptical of them even though they are playing at home in the second leg.
But there are some reasons that are quite logical there because Benzema's first leg is still not in a good way because at that time he even had doubts about playing due to the Hamstring Injury he received and Benzema's fielding became a gamble for Anceloti, But maybe now it will be a little different Benzema and the other players should not be so bad now because they are currently in good form again after some time ago the crisis of victory in the domestic league.

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Quote from: arallmuus on February 27, 2022, 10:50:15 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 27, 2022, 08:43:40 AM

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything

It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate

By the looks of the first game, I would guess that even a 1-0 win on real Madrid somehow would have been not so terrible for PSG because Madrid looked so much worse. Just because it ended 1-0 doesn't mean that the game was deserved that way, it could have easily been a much more than just 1 goals and PSG dominated the entire game.

I am guessing that we are talking about something that is unique and I doubt that it would even have a remotely different result in the next match neither. We will see PSG win and not some unique Madrid win over PSG, that is not going to happen. Obviously in a football context, anything could happen but the favorites are very easily PSG and not Madrid.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 27, 2022, 08:43:40 AM

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything

It changes alot just by having a 1-0 lead in the 1st leg. If PSG score another goal against Real Madrid on the 2nd leg, that means Real Madrid needs to score 3 goals to win and that is a huge difference by having 1 goal lead from the previous leg. Also the fact that both teams seems to be equal as you can see on the 1st leg also show that having that 1 goal lead is safe enough to assume that PSG is in the favour to move up to the next round in case the 2nd leg ended up in another 90 minutes stalemate

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Quote from: herurist on February 27, 2022, 09:51:02 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on February 27, 2022, 08:43:40 AM

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything (because they are stronger). Well, if Real is weaker, then there’s nothing to be done and the current advantage of PSG is also not important.

I personally still think Real can still turn things around even though in terms of the game it's quite different, especially for now and seeing the First Leg play PSG is really crazy and they continue to lock Real Madrid.
I actually hope that in Leg 2 there will be something interesting that Real Madrid will show and unlike in the First Leg yesterday, they played quite badly, maybe even the worst they have played in the UCL.

It makes no sense to judge the form of Real Madrid by the matches of the domestic championship. La Liga is already in their pocket, so there is no point in overexerting themselves or showing some prepared schemes. Plus, we must understand that in the match against PSG there will be a completely different motivation and we will see a completely different level of concentration from the players of both teams. At the moment I am optimistic, as Real will play in the optimal composition.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 27, 2022, 07:54:41 AM

Of course, the matchup that people are curious about how it would end is PSG - Real Madrid now. PSG couldn't seal the deal as they won only by 1-0. Real Madrid are still one step back maybe but this is still a good score for them to turn the tide. Real Madrid must focus on having control of the game most of the time like PSG did the same in France. This can be an only way out for Real Madrid here. PSG have merciless attackers and they would punish Real Madrid for their simple mistakes. I still think that PSG will be the victor on aggregate.

It is very possible for PSG to win back this second leg which will be played at the Santiago Bernabeu stadium, Real Madrid are in poor form in recent games and PSG have been very stable this season with a lot of star players at their disposal.
in Leg 1 which happened PSG controlled the game very well and there were many opportunities that the PSG striker had not been able to maximize, including the missed penalty from Messi, if in the 2nd leg PSG played the same game, it was very possible for them to party at Real Madrid with many goals.
I'm willing to bet big for PSG's victory in Leg 2 later.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on February 27, 2022, 06:28:42 AM

Of all PSG players this season I think very evenly across all lines and with almost the same quality between the starting players and also the back-up, I think they need that and can take advantage of that because they are focused on playing in some of the championships they want to win.
because not all players can be fit or not injured in every game so I think with the composition of PSG players it is very possible for them to win the UCL this season.
the match against Real Madrid in the second leg I have no doubts about the victory for PSG after seeing the game they showed in the first leg, even I predict PSG can win again when playing at the Santiago Bernabeu stadium later, it's all inseparable from the poor game Real Madrid this season .

I don't feel that PSG have perfect players on all fronts especially if you look at the midfielders. I've seen their midfielders try to attack quite often and neglect their position so this has created a gap between helping the strikers score or them wanting to score themselves. Many PSG players have high egos and don't play like a team, that's what I saw when PSG struggled to score goals.

PSG have a lot of top players and they have reserve players of equal quality to the main players. Obviously this opens up the reason why the competition between players is getting better. Player egotism must be put aside if PSG are to win the Champions League title this season as a team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 27, 2022, 08:43:40 AM

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The second leg of the PSG vs Real Madrid matchup is going to be really competitive for each team I think. There is still nothing finished even though PSG defeated them by 1-0 in Parc des Princes. PSG must be even sad about not scoring more goals. They are still advantageous but it is not a very big advantage. Real Madrid are going to play a home game and I'm waiting for them to show a great performance. They must do this to have a chance for the next round. And they have been a great home team so far this season. We might see at least the extra time in this game I think.

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything (because they are stronger). Well, if Real is weaker, then there’s nothing to be done and the current advantage of PSG is also not important.

I personally still think Real can still turn things around even though in terms of the game it's quite different, especially for now and seeing the First Leg play PSG is really crazy and they continue to lock Real Madrid.
I actually hope that in Leg 2 there will be something interesting that Real Madrid will show and unlike in the First Leg yesterday, they played quite badly, maybe even the worst they have played in the UCL.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 27, 2022, 07:54:41 AM

Of course, the matchup that people are curious about how it would end is PSG - Real Madrid now. PSG couldn't seal the deal as they won only by 1-0. Real Madrid are still one step back maybe but this is still a good score for them to turn the tide. Real Madrid must focus on having control of the game most of the time like PSG did the same in France. This can be an only way out for Real Madrid here. PSG have merciless attackers and they would punish Real Madrid for their simple mistakes. I still think that PSG will be the victor on aggregate.

Even though the second leg will be held at the Santiago Bernabéu but still, I personally don't believe Real Madrid will turn things around. The system of eliminating away goals allowed the match to be continued through extra time and up to a penalty shootout, so if Real Madrid could win with the same score 1-0 then the match would still continue. But I personally don't believe that will happen because PSG is still the best when compared to Real Madrid and because of that, I personally believe that PSG can still score goals at the Santiago Bernabéu later.

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Quote from: CLS63 on February 27, 2022, 05:30:55 AM

The second leg of the PSG vs Real Madrid matchup is going to be really competitive for each team I think. There is still nothing finished even though PSG defeated them by 1-0 in Parc des Princes. PSG must be even sad about not scoring more goals. They are still advantageous but it is not a very big advantage. Real Madrid are going to play a home game and I'm waiting for them to show a great performance. They must do this to have a chance for the next round. And they have been a great home team so far this season. We might see at least the extra time in this game I think.

It looks like the teams will play this match with optimal lineups so they should show a really good game.
As for the advantage in the score of PSG, I believe that it actually does not exist. My reasoning is that if Real are stronger than PSG and are going to knock them out of the tournament, then they should win at least 1-0. If by "accident" they are one goal behind strategically it doesn't change anything (because they are stronger). Well, if Real is weaker, then there’s nothing to be done and the current advantage of PSG is also not important.

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Of course, the matchup that people are curious about how it would end is PSG - Real Madrid now. PSG couldn't seal the deal as they won only by 1-0. Real Madrid are still one step back maybe but this is still a good score for them to turn the tide. Real Madrid must focus on having control of the game most of the time like PSG did the same in France. This can be an only way out for Real Madrid here. PSG have merciless attackers and they would punish Real Madrid for their simple mistakes. I still think that PSG will be the victor on aggregate.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on February 27, 2022, 03:16:47 AM

I don't follow the thoughts of others who predict that Bayern will win the UCL this season, I prefer Man United

indeed many are currently pessimistic about the inconsistent pattern of play experienced by man united but in fact they already have a good squad. Rangnick just needs to find a good strategy mix for his team, then man united is a very savage team in the UCL this season

I also don't think that Bayern Munich is the big favorite to win the Champions League title this year. If you look at their current form then it is hard to imagine that they could really be a threat to a team like ManCity or Liverpool for example. Bayern is extremely shaky in the defense at the moment and every game in the Bundesliga is pretty close and tough for them. They should still be able to advance against Salzburg though and then a few important players should come back like Goretzka, Neuer and Davies for example.

To be honest though Manchester United is not on my list of favorites and i also think that it is very likely that they will be out of the tournament after this round. They were very lucky that they have achieved a 1-1 against Atletico in the first leg because Madrid was by far the better team.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 27, 2022, 05:45:57 AM

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The fact that there are too many top players in PSG, such as Messi, Neymar, Mbappe doesn't mean that they will be the champions. Look at other teams, they may have not such players but their victories against grand teams were easy. So, I just say that it won't be easy to beat Ajax, Salzburg and even Villareal.

Everything is not easy in terms of football matches, but everyone can also see when a club has many star players as you mentioned, then the chance of winning is greater than a club that does not have a single star player, although it will also not happen easily for all the clubs that exist today. Especially if one of the star players from PSG is injured during the match

PSG has a lot of star players. Actually, I think they don't even need all the players to perform well to win against Real Madrid. One or two players can obviously have an off day. But they all have to play as a team. And I am not too confident about the team chemistry in the PSG squad right now. But then again Real Madrid is not also in the best of form right now so I think PSG should have the advantage here. Also with 1 goal advantage.

Of all PSG players this season I think very evenly across all lines and with almost the same quality between the starting players and also the back-up, I think they need that and can take advantage of that because they are focused on playing in some of the championships they want to win.
because not all players can be fit or not injured in every game so I think with the composition of PSG players it is very possible for them to win the UCL this season.
the match against Real Madrid in the second leg I have no doubts about the victory for PSG after seeing the game they showed in the first leg, even I predict PSG can win again when playing at the Santiago Bernabeu stadium later, it's all inseparable from the poor game Real Madrid this season .

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Quote from: Tumanggor on February 27, 2022, 03:16:47 AM

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Everyone also recognizes Bayern is a good team and one of the candidates to win the Champions League trophy. Moreover, Bayern is already
experienced in the Champions League competition, they have won 6 Champions League trophies and managed to become second place 5 times.

I don't follow the thoughts of others who predict that Bayern will win the UCL this season, I prefer Man United

indeed many are currently pessimistic about the inconsistent pattern of play experienced by man united but in fact they already have a good squad. Rangnick just needs to find a good strategy mix for his team, then man united is a very savage team in the UCL this season

It's your right to have a different opinion from others, and I respect your opinion that predicts Man United winning the UCL trophy this season.
But I don't agree with that, because I saw Man United's game against Atletico not having good teamwork. I agree that Man United have a good squad,
even better than some of the big teams in Europe, but if Man United only have a good squad without solid teamwork, it will be difficult to win.
Maybe in the second leg Man United will beat Atletico, because Atletico's performances have also been bad this season. But if Man United qualify
for the next round to meet Bayern or another big team, it is likely that Man United's steps will stop. Because as long as Rangnick hasn't found a good
strategy and hasn't been able to make Man United players work well together, I don't believe Man United can win the UCL trophy this season.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on February 27, 2022, 12:17:48 AM

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The fact that there are too many top players in PSG, such as Messi, Neymar, Mbappe doesn't mean that they will be the champions. Look at other teams, they may have not such players but their victories against grand teams were easy. So, I just say that it won't be easy to beat Ajax, Salzburg and even Villareal.

Everything is not easy in terms of football matches, but everyone can also see when a club has many star players as you mentioned, then the chance of winning is greater than a club that does not have a single star player, although it will also not happen easily for all the clubs that exist today. Especially if one of the star players from PSG is injured during the match

PSG has a lot of star players. Actually, I think they don't even need all the players to perform well to win against Real Madrid. One or two players can obviously have an off day. But they all have to play as a team. And I am not too confident about the team chemistry in the PSG squad right now. But then again Real Madrid is not also in the best of form right now so I think PSG should have the advantage here. Also with 1 goal advantage.

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The second leg of the PSG vs Real Madrid matchup is going to be really competitive for each team I think. There is still nothing finished even though PSG defeated them by 1-0 in Parc des Princes. PSG must be even sad about not scoring more goals. They are still advantageous but it is not a very big advantage. Real Madrid are going to play a home game and I'm waiting for them to show a great performance. They must do this to have a chance for the next round. And they have been a great home team so far this season. We might see at least the extra time in this game I think.

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Quote from: Davian144 on February 26, 2022, 09:06:30 PM

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when viewed from the game of the two teams in the first leg, PSG were very superior in all respects, both ball control and shots against the goal and from the composition of the existing players PSG was also superior to Real Madrid, after seeing the game of the two teams in the first leg I am pessimistic for Real Madrid to be able to qualify for the next round, even I predict that it is very likely that PSG can win again in the second leg later.

It could be so, because if Real Madrid were not able to play in a draw in the first leg, then in the second leg it will also be very difficult for Real Madrid to win this match because Real Madrid need to score 2 goals in the second leg against PSG and this is a problem It's a very tough job because everyone knows that PSG is a very strong club now.

I think that Real Madrid is going to find it really difficult to win against PSG. Because PSG is obviously a better team. But the thing is PSG was not too consistent in spite of being a good team in this season. But, I think that the one goal advantage that PSG has is going to come in handy for them. Actually, I think this match is going to go to overtime and penalties. Because I really don't see Real Madrid scoring more than one goal in the second leg and we also have to remember that a draw in the second leg means a win for PSG.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on February 27, 2022, 03:16:47 AM

Quote from: BuNga_cute on February 26, 2022, 06:00:36 PM

Everyone also recognizes Bayern is a good team and one of the candidates to win the Champions League trophy. Moreover, Bayern is already
experienced in the Champions League competition, they have won 6 Champions League trophies and managed to become second place 5 times.

I don't follow the thoughts of others who predict that Bayern will win the UCL this season, I prefer Man United

indeed many are currently pessimistic about the inconsistent pattern of play experienced by man united but in fact they already have a good squad. Rangnick just needs to find a good strategy mix for his team, then man united is a very savage team in the UCL this season

Manchester United are a pretty good team, yes, but I don't think there's any way they'll be champions. Even in their own league, their scores are quite low and they are behind. Did you watch the game played yesterday? There is no unity in the team, they continue to have problems within themselves. Individually they may have very good players, but they are never a team, and they are also quite unlucky

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