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Quote from: Strongkored on February 24, 2022, 01:48:46 AM

Do not underestimate Ajax, maybe they are not like 4 teams from England, PSG, teams from LaLiga or Bundesliga and Serie A that get more publicity so it looks Ajax become ordinary team, Ajax are very likely to make surprises and UCL will be more competitive and interesting if there are surprises.

Honestly, after yesterday's Benfica-Ajax game, I don't see Ajax making as many surprises as many expect.
Ajax, especially in the second half, did not manage to create great dangers for Benfica. Benfica, despite going through a bad moment at the time, in the second half managed to completely dominate the match, ending up tying the game and having, like, several opportunities to win the match.

Benfica surprised me positively, and I leave good indicators for the second leg, while Ajax expected to see more.

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Quote from: asus09 on February 24, 2022, 12:13:47 AM

Representatives from Portugal and the Netherlands are not favorites to win the title

Do not underestimate Ajax, maybe they are not like 4 teams from England, PSG, teams from LaLiga or Bundesliga and Serie A that get more publicity so it looks Ajax become ordinary team, Ajax are very likely to make surprises and UCL will be more competitive and interesting if there are surprises.

The second leg of Atletico vs Man United, United's chances are greater to win, unfortunately the first leg Atletico can only draw I put this match in multibet and the result of this is not pleasant

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Quote from: DU18 on February 23, 2022, 05:32:16 PM

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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 23, 2022, 04:59:33 PM

Well truly undeserved draw for the Manchester if the 1-0 was a good result to Manchester imagine this 1-1. Two woodwork for the Atletico one in the first half and one after Manchester goal.
Its seems like Atletico versus a team who have Cristiano its cursed. Its happen in Real Madrid , Juventus and seems to be happen again in Manchester.

Manchester United must have been happy with the draw. They played this match in Spain and the red devils have the power to take the rematch. In my opinion, this result is considered a good result. Of course, it would have been better if they had won, but we should not forget that Atletico Madrid is the team that won La Liga last year.

But draw is not guarantee will easy on second leg at Old Trafford although play as home I think Manchester United will be difficult faced Atletico Madrid, but have several match on UEFA Champion League knock out stage always draw after last night Villareal vs Juventus have been draw, maybe both team play as quit and waiting for which one team brave attacking first, but first leg always not really looks competitive and attractive, waiting on second leg will many surprise see with team can created many goals and will have several match extended on extra time

With this draw I believe Man Utd has a big advantage to turns things around in the second leg against Atletico Madrid at old trafford, however Man Utd had been inconsistent in their performance, they are so poor at times thus makes that second leg even unpredictable and dicey, of course playing Atletico Madrid can be very frustrating irrespective of where the match is played both home or away, to put more pressure on the game there is no away goal rules again, thus the second leg can go either way, unless Man Utd up their game and wrap up the game on a good note to qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: Ratash on February 23, 2022, 07:11:21 PM

Man united got lucky today they performed really badly atletico team was much better especially on the first half they scored early and they could've added more goals in the second half man united played a little better and they managed to equalize, the second leg will be difficult its tough to predict who will get through.

Manchester united are indeed very lucky to secure draw yesterday, because there performance is not good enough compare to that of Atlatico Madrid. Yesterday I was telling someone that Manchester united will suffer in the hands of the Spanish team, as they are away from home and they are not in good form. I predicted the match draw, so I wasn't surprised with the outcome of the match, in fact Manchester united need to be extremely careful not to loose against Atlatico in Old Trafford.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 23, 2022, 08:14:13 PM

For now the new rule that takes out the away goal its not seem really enjoyable to the spectator also for bettings , because you dont know what its gonna do the away team, and also the home team.
Lets see in a few years but for me its a no sense cut that rule in terms of spectacle.

I like this new rule, goals are goals... I don't think it will be less spectacular, it's just that goal away is worth just goal, not two goals as before! Maybe it's even good, it removes some pressure when teams are playing away!

Quote from: tulusikhlas on February 23, 2022, 10:11:14 PM

Representatives from Portugal and representatives from the Netherlands, had to settle for a draw. I don't mean to belittle, but I see these two teams as not very favorites for the Champions League title race. The reason is that their team is still far behind compared to representatives from other State Leagues. I predict that these two teams will only last until the top 8.

Well, Ajax had a pretty easy group stage, if we can say like that for Sporting, Besiktas, and Borussia, so they won all games! I guess we can even say that Ajax and Benfica were lucky to meet now, better than to play against some better teams! So one of these two teams will last until the top 8, and in the top 8 one of these two teams will face some very strong team, we will see are they capable of doing something more. I like how Ajax is playing this season, and I would like to see more from them, probably they will be underdogs but I will support them for sure!

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Liverpool are just hard to play, this is how a team should be, they won six goals to nil.
They face Chelsea in the next fixture in the he Efl Cup.
See that team buzzing, they can't be stopped by Chelsea, they'll end up winner's.

Manchester United player Bruno Fernandez, is the first player in history Champions League to assist a total of seven in total, this has come from six appearances.
Although Manchester had a awful performance last night!

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on February 23, 2022, 10:11:14 PM

Representatives from Portugal and representatives from the Netherlands, had to settle for a draw. I don't mean to belittle, but I see these two teams as not very favorites for the Champions League title race. The reason is that their team is still far behind compared to representatives from other State Leagues. I predict that these two teams will only last until the top 8.

Representatives from Portugal and the Netherlands are not favorites to win the title, because on paper they are still far behind with representatives from England and representatives from Paris, according to my prediction this year representatives from England will again lift the champions league trophy, because 4 representatives from England had a great chance to advance to the last 8 round, in the first leg Chelsea won promisingly over Lille representatives from France, Man City also managed to beat representatives from Portugal, Liferpol also managed to beat representatives from Italy with a 2-0 suspension, while Manchester United managed to hold off. draw representatives from spain, according to my prediction representatives from England have a great chance to lift the champions league trophy this year..

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 23, 2022, 05:38:49 PM

Yep, the new regulation related to the away goal is implemented. There is nos special away goal anymore.
So, both clubs must do their best in the second leg, to score higher than the other. So, they will win the game.
In this case, MU should have better motivation to play at home in the second leg.
But, we know that sometimes, this club also cannot utilize this to win the game and moreover probably will be the opposite. BUt we also know that Atletico Madrid also often plays unsatisfied during this season. Both clubs so far often dissatisfy the result with their unpredictable games (bad).
But, let's see.

I just found out about this, this means if it's a draw again at old Trafford, there will be extra time and a Penalty kick. I think it's good, even though drawing in Villareal's home, MU gives a bit of resistance for the host. And again, a substitution player saves MU from defeat, several days ago, Elanga also creates a goal as a substitution and increase the goal after Fred also. Does this mean Rangnick has to think to put him to squad early or is he just good as a substitution?.

which is very true considering that UEFA has implemented a new rule by removing away goals then automatically if both teams play a draw it will proceed to extra time or a penalty shoot-out if the score does not change, because the old rules received a lot of opposition from various groups. so that it makes a loss for one team if it is not able to score away goals, of course we can look back at the penalty shootout drama in the knockout round if each team plays a draw, which is something we rarely see in the knockout phase.

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Quote from: Ratash on February 23, 2022, 07:11:21 PM

Man united got lucky today they performed really badly atletico team was much better especially on the first half they scored early and they could've added more goals in the second half man united played a little better and they managed to equalize, the second leg will be difficult its tough to predict who will get through.

lucky? how do you say Manchester United are lucky, while MU's ball possession is higher than Atletico. playing down matic and elanga is a good decision from rangnick, United's midfield be sharper.

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At least I'm quite happy about the result of the Benfica v Ajax match, previously I predicted that this match would have a lot of goals at least over 2.5 goals and it happened. Because the other match for the match between Atletico v Manchester United was even though it was a draw but still it was just a low score just like any other match, so far in the round of 16 the average match has only produced low goals which means they are still very careful not to made a lot of mistakes. It will be interesting to look forward to in the second leg, whether they will play more openly or will they persist by maintaining the advantage that has been obtained for the teams that have won in the first leg.

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Quote from: bering on February 23, 2022, 10:14:10 PM

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Quote from: snipie on February 23, 2022, 06:58:10 PM

Out of 8 games in the first leg we have 4 draws which will make the matches of the 2nd leg more interesting Wink

Juve and Ajax missed 3 points, Chelsea winning isn't a surprise and ATM wasn't able to keep its advantage in its stadium today...
So far, we have Real Madrid, Juve, Ajax, ATM/ManU at risk of quitting in case of a (surprising) defeat!

Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool played successful first leg matches. However, Manchester United failed to deliver what was expected. It doesn't surprise me anymore to see 4 English teams in the last 16 of the champions league. They are truly in the best places in world football. Let's see what Manchester United will do in the return match. If they are successful, the 4 teams that are probably among the last 8 teams will be English teams.

In the last few years English teams seems dominated champion league competition it proven that almost every season there always be English teams who at least went to knockout phase and for this season if these 4 teams could able went to quarterfinal it could be good achievement however for Man Utd I'm sure for second leg they will do more and they have good opportunity went to quarterfinal especially playing for home ground match at Old trafford

Manchester United ere showing more solidity in the champions league as it still their last thing to play for, its treu that its very hard for them to get the title but why not qualifying to the quarter or semi final and did some great matches, i think this will be very motivating for the team and their new trainer

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Quote from: Retro Harmony on February 23, 2022, 07:13:34 PM

Quote from: snipie on February 23, 2022, 06:58:10 PM

Out of 8 games in the first leg we have 4 draws which will make the matches of the 2nd leg more interesting Wink

Juve and Ajax missed 3 points, Chelsea winning isn't a surprise and ATM wasn't able to keep its advantage in its stadium today...
So far, we have Real Madrid, Juve, Ajax, ATM/ManU at risk of quitting in case of a (surprising) defeat!

Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool played successful first leg matches. However, Manchester United failed to deliver what was expected. It doesn't surprise me anymore to see 4 English teams in the last 16 of the champions league. They are truly in the best places in world football. Let's see what Manchester United will do in the return match. If they are successful, the 4 teams that are probably among the last 8 teams will be English teams.

In the last few years English teams seems dominated champion league competition it proven that almost every season there always be English teams who at least went to knockout phase and for this season if these 4 teams could able went to quarterfinal it could be good achievement however for Man Utd I'm sure for second leg they will do more and they have good opportunity went to quarterfinal especially playing for home ground match at Old trafford

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Representatives from Portugal and representatives from the Netherlands, had to settle for a draw. I don't mean to belittle, but I see these two teams as not very favorites for the Champions League title race. The reason is that their team is still far behind compared to representatives from other State Leagues. I predict that these two teams will only last until the top 8.

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Quote from: watergold on February 23, 2022, 08:12:24 PM

Quote from: darxiaomi on February 23, 2022, 04:59:33 PM

Well truly undeserved draw for the Manchester if the 1-0 was a good result to Manchester imagine this 1-1. Two woodwork for the Atletico one in the first half and one after Manchester goal.
Its seems like Atletico versus a team who have Cristiano its cursed. Its happen in Real Madrid , Juventus and seems to be happen again in Manchester.

;DI laughed when I read this. But it's true what you say, do curses really exist? Yes they are (Atletico Madrid) but much better than Manchester United. But Manchester United's luck was bigger than Atletico's so this final result could happen. I think Diego Simeone has been frustrated again by the team that made up Cristiano Ronaldo. Several times he met, and that many times he had bad luck.

But I am very optimistic that Manchester is able to be in the quarter-finals, because Manchester's chances are better than ATM, because in the second leg Manchester will play at home, of course they will play more confidently, in the first half Manchester played less aggressively, so fellixs able to break into de Gea's goal in the 7th minute, but in the second half Manchester was able to rise and be able to control the match, they also managed to equalize in the 80th minute, I am very sure 4 representatives from England are able to qualify for the last 8 of the champions league..

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For now the new rule that takes out the away goal its not seem really enjoyable to the spectator also for bettings , because you dont know what its gonna do the away team, and also the home team.
Lets see in a few years but for me its a no sense cut that rule in terms of spectacle.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 23, 2022, 04:59:33 PM

Well truly undeserved draw for the Manchester if the 1-0 was a good result to Manchester imagine this 1-1. Two woodwork for the Atletico one in the first half and one after Manchester goal.
Its seems like Atletico versus a team who have Cristiano its cursed. Its happen in Real Madrid , Juventus and seems to be happen again in Manchester.

;DI laughed when I read this. But it's true what you say, do curses really exist? Yes they are (Atletico Madrid) but much better than Manchester United. But Manchester United's luck was bigger than Atletico's so this final result could happen. I think Diego Simeone has been frustrated again by the team that made up Cristiano Ronaldo. Several times he met, and that many times he had bad luck.

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Quote from: snipie on February 23, 2022, 06:58:10 PM

Out of 8 games in the first leg we have 4 draws which will make the matches of the 2nd leg more interesting Wink

Juve and Ajax missed 3 points, Chelsea winning isn't a surprise and ATM wasn't able to keep its advantage in its stadium today...
So far, we have Real Madrid, Juve, Ajax, ATM/ManU at risk of quitting in case of a (surprising) defeat!

Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool played successful first leg matches. However, Manchester United failed to deliver what was expected. It doesn't surprise me anymore to see 4 English teams in the last 16 of the champions league. They are truly in the best places in world football. Let's see what Manchester United will do in the return match. If they are successful, the 4 teams that are probably among the last 8 teams will be English teams.

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Man united got lucky today they performed really badly atletico team was much better especially on the first half they scored early and they could've added more goals in the second half man united played a little better and they managed to equalize, the second leg will be difficult its tough to predict who will get through.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on February 23, 2022, 05:38:49 PM

Yep, the new regulation related to the away goal is implemented. There is nos special away goal anymore.
So, both clubs must do their best in the second leg, to score higher than the other. So, they will win the game.
In this case, MU should have better motivation to play at home in the second leg.
But, we know that sometimes, this club also cannot utilize this to win the game and moreover probably will be the opposite. BUt we also know that Atletico Madrid also often plays unsatisfied during this season. Both clubs so far often dissatisfy the result with their unpredictable games (bad).
But, let's see.

I just found out about this, this means if it's a draw again at old Trafford, there will be extra time and a Penalty kick. I think it's good, even though drawing in Villareal's home, MU gives a bit of resistance for the host. And again, a substitution player saves MU from defeat, several days ago, Elanga also creates a goal as a substitution and increase the goal after Fred also. Does this mean Rangnick has to think to put him to squad early or is he just good as a substitution?.

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Quote from: DU18 on February 23, 2022, 05:32:16 PM

draw is not guarantee will easy on second leg at Old Trafford although play as home I think Manchester United will be difficult faced Atletico Madrid

Sure. Draw doesn't guarantee Man United 100% safe to win in the 2nd Leg. Or no guarantee Man United is qualified to the next round already. I cannot guess whether Man United to be more difficult facing Atletico Madrid in the next Leg. But playing at home should be more comfortable for Man United players. They also must have bigger motivation to win because they don't want to make their loyal fans be unsatisfied at home. Also, Man United players will have a better preparation if they play at home only. For me, Man United has a bigger chance to be qualified for the next round.

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