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Quote from: KTChampions on December 08, 2021, 11:28:54 AM

As for Bruges, it is really a pity that they did not make it to the Europa League, but judging by the Leipzig mood, they will take this tournament seriously, so in general everything is fine.

It is not surprising that the Brugge team did not qualify for the Europa League. The weakest team in this group was Club Brugge. Leipzig is better than them. And Leipzig will be able to fight well for the title with other teams in the Europa League. The results of Group A met our expectations.

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Quote from: hahay on December 07, 2021, 09:28:57 PM

At the end of the final position in Group B according to the initial prediction, where Milan could not qualify and Atletico managed to get the result as expected. Matches in the UCL are always difficult to predict and even until the end of the match in the group stage, in group A previously I thought Club Brugge would be able to get a good result to qualify for the Europa League but in fact it was Leipzig who were able to win against Manchester City. Of course, the big loss that Brugge received was something that was very unlucky because in the first match Brugge got a draw against PSG here at the Parc des Princes, Brugge really couldn't do anything because PSG themselves played very well.

Oddly enough, but the result of Atlético was regarded by the bookmakers as unlikely and they gave a coefficient 4 on the fact that Atletico would be able to reach the playoff round.
As for Bruges, it is really a pity that they did not make it to the Europa League, but judging by the Leipzig mood, they will take this tournament seriously, so in general everything is fine.

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it all looks like fc barcelona will not reach the 1/8-finals of this year's cl and will continue to play in the europe league Tongue

bayern will beat barcelona and benfica will do everything to get 3 points at home against kiev and climb to 2nd place
and in group c with lille, salzburg, sevilla and wolfsburg everything is still possible and even the current table last can qualify for the 1/8-finals Shocked

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Quote from: DU18 on December 08, 2021, 10:14:15 AM

Quote from: Mr.Scott on December 08, 2021, 10:04:37 AM

As a Barca fan, I am concerned about the upcoming Champions League matches against Bayern Munich. According to Bayern Munich's previous two meetings with Barcelona, they have scored 11 goals. It is impossible for Barcelona to defend against Lewandowski, Muller, Musiala and Coman. So a safe bet would be Bayern?

munchen is currently in a pretty perfect performance both in the league and champions league, maybe in the match against barcelona, münchen will field a reserve squad but that doesn't mean barcelona will be able to win the match easily, as far as i know the core and reserve squad that munchen has the quality is not much different and will still be very dangerous, although as a fan of course you have to think realistically if indeed Barcelona will be difficult to win against Munich and it is better to secure your money at this time.

Even though this match doesn't mean anything to Munich, they won't let barca dominate let alone win the game.
From statistics and looking at performance, of course Munich are very far ahead at the moment and even if you look at H2H both clubs are still quite superior.
But indeed they will think again to reserve some of their players like him, because indeed they will not take big risks for such a meaningless match.
But still I will give my bet to munchen in this match

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Quote from: marbet85 on December 08, 2021, 08:02:15 AM

It's good to hear Julian at the press conference, saying that there will be not many changes, of course, the lack of Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry can be visible, but rest the basis with Manuel, Robert, Thomas will be, Bild predicts the exit of 1st 11 Musiala and Roca and then the entrance of Sane.

He said though that some players that have not played so regularly in the last time will get a chance so we definitely will see some changes in the squad of today. I also think that players like Musiala and Roca get a chance to be in the starting eleven today, especially for Roca it's gonna be a special game as he was playing for espanyol Barcelona before he came to Bayern. I think it all depends on who has the better start. If Bayern goes 1-0 in front then i would say that the chances for Barca are almost at 0% to win because then Bayern can wait for counter opportunities and they have the players for that.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on December 08, 2021, 10:04:37 AM

As a Barca fan, I am concerned about the upcoming Champions League matches against Bayern Munich. According to Bayern Munich's previous two meetings with Barcelona, they have scored 11 goals. It is impossible for Barcelona to defend against Lewandowski, Muller, Musiala and Coman. So a safe bet would be Bayern?

munchen is currently in a pretty perfect performance both in the league and champions league, maybe in the match against barcelona, münchen will field a reserve squad but that doesn't mean barcelona will be able to win the match easily, as far as i know the core and reserve squad that munchen has the quality is not much different and will still be very dangerous, although as a fan of course you have to think realistically if indeed Barcelona will be difficult to win against Munich and it is better to secure your money at this time.

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today's games:

Manchester United - Young Boys

@1.56 @5.80

manchester united is already at another stage and i doubt they will play with their best players and knowing that even their best players did not play well and have a recent coach who will still have a lot of time to get used to so i would say for this game Manchester's chances of a draw or defeat are the best options

the same scenario goes into the game:

chelsea - Zenit

@1.56 - @5.80

I doubt that Tuchel puts his best players in this game, he will put team B and knowing that even with the best players chelsea is not getting good results so will team B of chelsea win Zenit? i know zenti is not in the other phase either so wouldn't have reason to put in a lot of effort, but they can do their best to save their honor and would also take the opportunity to beat chelsea B

Bayern Munich - FC Barcelona

knowing Bayern Munich they will play with all the best players they have and will win... barcelna's problem lies in the fact that they don't have good players to score goals

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As a Barca fan, I am concerned about the upcoming Champions League matches against Bayern Munich. According to Bayern Munich's previous two meetings with Barcelona, they have scored 11 goals. It is impossible for Barcelona to defend against Lewandowski, Muller, Musiala and Coman. So a safe bet would be Bayern?

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The matches between Bayern Munich vs Barcelona and Atalanta vs Villarreal seem to be getting more attention and also, it might be a match with a revenge mission for Manchester United vs Young Boys. As we know, they will all still be fighting to qualify or at least fill the second place. But, unlike Manchester United who lost in the first match against Young Boys and of course, in this last match with a different coaching chair, it looks like Manchester United will win with a high score too, maybe. But actually there are other exciting matches in Group G with teams Lille, Salzburg, Sevilla, Wolfsburg. Well, although their competition will still occur in today's match because all the teams in this group still have a chance to qualify, but I only believe that the two teams in this group will qualify and he is Lille and Sevilla.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on December 08, 2021, 07:51:16 AM

Today's CL games are way more interesting than yesterday's - there's something to play for in all groups besides H.

Although for most the thing to pay attention to will be the Bayern - Barcelona game, I'm actually looking forward to Salzburg - Sevilla. Barcelona is dependant on Benfica's result and Bayern has nothing to play for, and in both Salzburg - Sevilla and Atalanta - Villarreal games it's a direct clash between these 2 teams.

It's going to be a great CL day for live betting, I'm gonna put 3 games in parallel, open a few beers and lose some money.

certainly a very tough night to bet on barcelona or bayern because it is very difficult to predict where bayern with very great strength and barcelona struggle to win to be able to advance to the next round. This match is really hard to predict.
however i think this match is what i'm most looking forward to at the moment and after thinking long term i decided to bet on barcelona with all my balance tonight. hopefully bayern don't field their main players tonight because they are sure to advance to the next round and thus have a big chance for barca to win the game.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on December 07, 2021, 03:09:38 PM

Leipzig won today against a really strong City side. I thought they will secure Europa league due to PSG's easy win against Brugge, but they took it into their hands and have beaten one of the top european clubs.
Guardiola will be really unhappy, they lost the game and he'll also be without Walker in the first knockout games after his red card today.

Leipzig is a really good team - which they proved again today. A bit underrated as well.

Guordiola had made statement about losing Walker in round 16 UCL knockout is hurtful, he had been very consistent in that right back position for Man City playing many matches this season, that tackle on RB Leipzig player Andre Silva is uncalled for, I watch the match it was kick from behind and a deliberate tackle, at time when City was trailing them with two goals to one, had it been City needed a win or a draw to qualify fo the next round got sent off thus that would have been a big disappointment for the club.

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on December 08, 2021, 05:09:05 AM

Milan screwed things up big time last night. They needed to win against Liverpool to be able to continue in the Champions League. And they got ahead 1-0 first too. But they weren't capable of keeping the score at it or opening the gap. Even though Liverpool were in a comfortable condition, they still made a comeback and won by 2-1. But as Atletico Madrid won by 3-1, Milan needed to win by at least 2 goals though. It was already hard for them.

Milan did their best but they were not the favourites. You cannot do more than your capabilities in football. So, we should not say Milan screwed things up.
Just like this night, it is expected that Barcelona should defeat Bayern. And we know it's a big or near impossible task for Barcelona to beat Bayern.
So it will not be nice to say later tonight that Barcelona screwed up even if they start leading with a lone goal.
So, tonight Bayern will win, any other thing that happens is a miracle.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 08, 2021, 07:06:54 AM

Quote from: Cafex on December 08, 2021, 06:40:41 AM

First of all, I'm not very content about the result of Milan vs Liverpool match as I was supporting Milan. But anyway, congrats to Atletico Madrid for making it! And today, the last matches of this stage are going to be played today. Among those matches, the most interesting match is obviously Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. Because Barcelona must win to be able to advance. I'm saying this considering that Benfica will tear Dinamo Kyiv apart. They have no choice rather than winning in the end if they want to maintain their existence in the CL in case Barcelona lose points.

Well, Milan was bad... I don't know how they won Atletico, I thought they will do more against Liverpool, but once again they disappointed totally! Luckily I played on goals last night, and that was a good decision!
We will see some surprises tonight, as always! Many teams have no other choice than to win if they wish to stay in competition... I guess group G is the hottest one, Wolfsburg (5 pts) vs Lille (8 pts) and Salzburg (7 pts) vs Sevilla (6 pts)... all cards are open, there are no other chances, tonight they will give everything they can and win or they will fail! I decided to play on goals tonight as well, I believe we will see a lot of goals again, open games with a focus on attacks!

Milan really is in a hopeless situation in the Champions League. At the bottom of the table with only four points. 6 matches played and won only one match.
Yes, group G is the most interesting one and all the teams are in a situation to qualify if they do things correctly but I am really hopeful about Sevilla. I hope they will win their next match.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 07, 2021, 10:45:28 PM

I've been too pessimistic about AC Milan in the Champions League this season after they failed to get any points in 3 consecutive group stage match. They have quality, but they are still not ready to do much in a big competition like the Champions League although I think they are just unlucky to be in the toughest group.

Yep, many Milan players are new to the atmosphere of the champions league. Dealing with Liverpool & Atletico who are on-fire is not a good thing. However, this is the start for the Milan players, they have proven that they can return to the UCL. There is no target from the AC Milan board, they might just want to see their strength in the UCL. Of course, all disappointed with this result, maybe in the next few years, Milan will have players who are ready to win again in the UCL.

Quote from: leea-1334 on December 08, 2021, 02:06:11 AM

This was the true exciting group for all neutrals. One team was perfect and one team was absolutely terrible and this was AC Milan. And it was such a heartbreak too after getting the last injury goal in the 5th game,,, Ibrahimovic must be feeling devastated they cannot even continue in Europa League.

Atletico is crazy. Start the last game bottom, finish the group second.

The good thing is, Ibra now has the opportunity to play more in Serie A, this will give Ibra time to rest with less AC Milan's competition schedule. Hopefully, Ibra will not face too many injury problems in the second half of the season, so he can get title again with Rossoneri.

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It's good to hear Julian at the press conference, saying that there will be not many changes, of course, the lack of Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry can be visible, but rest the basis with Manuel, Robert, Thomas will be, Bild predicts the exit of 1st 11 Musiala and Roca and then the entrance of Sane.

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Today's CL games are way more interesting than yesterday's - there's something to play for in all groups besides H.

Although for most the thing to pay attention to will be the Bayern - Barcelona game, I'm actually looking forward to Salzburg - Sevilla. Barcelona is dependant on Benfica's result and Bayern has nothing to play for, and in both Salzburg - Sevilla and Atalanta - Villarreal games it's a direct clash between these 2 teams.

It's going to be a great CL day for live betting, I'm gonna put 3 games in parallel, open a few beers and lose some money.

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Looking at the matches to be played tonight, Chelsea will beat Zenit in Russia. Juventus would not lose points to Malmö in Italy. In the Benfica-Dynamo Kyiv match, the Portuguese team wins. I think the probability of a draw is high in the Atalanta-Villarreal match. Lille will decide its own destiny. They have to win no matter what happens in Germany. A game that Wolfsburg also had to win. The most remarkable matches of this evening will be the matches of this group.

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Quote from: Cafex on December 08, 2021, 06:40:41 AM

First of all, I'm not very content about the result of Milan vs Liverpool match as I was supporting Milan. But anyway, congrats to Atletico Madrid for making it! And today, the last matches of this stage are going to be played today. Among those matches, the most interesting match is obviously Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. Because Barcelona must win to be able to advance. I'm saying this considering that Benfica will tear Dinamo Kyiv apart. They have no choice rather than winning in the end if they want to maintain their existence in the CL in case Barcelona lose points.

Well, Milan was bad... I don't know how they won Atletico, I thought they will do more against Liverpool, but once again they disappointed totally! Luckily I played on goals last night, and that was a good decision!

We will see some surprises tonight, as always! Many teams have no other choice than to win if they wish to stay in competition... I guess group G is the hottest one, Wolfsburg (5 pts) vs Lille (8 pts) and Salzburg (7 pts) vs Sevilla (6 pts)... all cards are open, there are no other chances, tonight they will give everything they can and win or they will fail! I decided to play on goals tonight as well, I believe we will see a lot of goals again, open games with a focus on attacks!

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First of all, I'm not very content about the result of Milan vs Liverpool match as I was supporting Milan. But anyway, congrats to Atletico Madrid for making it! And today, the last matches of this stage are going to be played today. Among those matches, the most interesting match is obviously Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. Because Barcelona must win to be able to advance. I'm saying this considering that Benfica will tear Dinamo Kyiv apart. They have no choice rather than winning in the end if they want to maintain their existence in the CL in case Barcelona lose points.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 08, 2021, 05:52:29 AM

Bayern will play this match without several starters. They will be resting some of their players because they have already qualified and secured the first place. I still think that Lewandowski will be very motivated to show Messi's ex-team what he thinks of Messi's Ballon d'Or win.

They don't have anything to do with it, in my opinion. prove to Messi c'mon, Messi left this team a few months ago, and whether they qualify or not has no bearing on Messi because his team has already qualified. Furthermore, Barcelona's qualification is contingent on the outcome of the Benfica-Dynamo match; if Bayern truly want to prove something to Messi, they should wait and hope they get drawn together as the league progresses.

Quote from: Pmalek on December 08, 2021, 05:52:29 AM

I also see this as a Bayern win, but I want to wait with my bet until I see the official lineups for the match.

Strong lineup or not Bayerm should win this one easily the current Barcelona team has nothing to offer they are bang average with an inexperienced coach Messi was the only reason they were looking like a good team last year. They are fit for the Europa League and not the champions league.

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I think that Manchester United is a good choice tonight.
Both Benfica and Dynamo have injury concerns.

Manchester United to win
Benfica -Dynamo: BTS

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