UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 85.

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I found a meme that was quite quirky in my opinion towards this final.
The journey of the two teams from the previous round. quite a contrast indeed if you look at the differences between the two clubs they are fighting for

I think this meme is suitable to describe the situation of Real Madrid, which is always faced with a strong team. but that doesn't mean i think liverpool is luckier. but as we know the teams that have been faced by real madrid are teams that have a myriad of achievements.

It makes sense when we look at Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League this season. They had to fight even harder to make a comeback after falling behind in the second leg which was impressive. Meanwhile Liverpool can still be said to be in an almost smooth category because they are faced with opponents who are still above the team they are playing against.

Well, it can be said that Liverpool can get to the Champions League final because getting opponents is easier than Real Madrid with a lot of drama going on. With such a process, then at least we will agree that Real Madrid deserves to be the winner of the Champions League title this season. But unfortunately, the final result cannot be determined in advance because in any match it can happen, because I also consider the difficulty of their competition in the domestic league and if calculated, they will probably get the same good statistical results.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on May 21, 2022, 01:51:13 AM

Liverpool will definitely defeat wolves 2-0 in their next match to alert Real Madrid that they has what it takes to win this champion league title. Real Madrid draw their last match with Betis 0-0 that is giving Liverpool fans hope that Real Madrid cannot stop them not to achieve this season title. I think, Liverpool is fully prepared to win all their remaining matches to prove to the world that they are the most strongest team in this season, because they have defeated so many strong teams in this tournament. Liverpool will never allow wolves to draw the match than to use their new strategy to defeat wolves.

Wolves is a bad club, their recent performance only keep losing while Real Betis is a standard club IMO. Liverpool will play without Salah, Van Dijk and Fabinho, let's see how their performance without their best players. Liverpool is huge favorited with 1.14x odds, while Wolves is 15.00x odds, based on the bookies Wolves has no chance to beat Liverpool, so I wouldn't surprised if Liverpool will win with 1-2 goals.

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Real Madrid get advantage with UEFA Champion League final because have get several days for taking rest, last night played on domestic league although held by Real Betis and Liverpool still have die and life last matchday tonight against with Wolves. I think Real Madrid have enough several days preparing for Champion League final than Liverpool have waiting domestic league match tonight, but chance for Carlo Ancelotti watching Liverpool games play against with Wolves and become good side for final match later.

Liverpool will definitely defeat wolves 2-0 in their next match to alert Real Madrid that they has what it takes to win this champion league title. Real Madrid draw their last match with Betis 0-0 that is giving Liverpool fans hope that Real Madrid cannot stop them not to achieve this season title. I think, Liverpool is fully prepared to win all their remaining matches to prove to the world that they are the most strongest team in this season, because they have defeated so many strong teams in this tournament. Liverpool will never allow wolves to draw the match than to use their new strategy to defeat wolves.

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What concerns me, there will be supporters from outside who will definitely support Real Madrid or Liverpool. What I mean by "from the outside" is that supporters from other teams, such as Barcelona supporters, will be on the side of Liverpool, and in the Real Madrid camp, there will be support from Manchester United supporters. It will be hotter in my opinion.
This is just my opinion, regarding the rivalry between the two supporters.

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Real Madrid get advantage with UEFA Champion League final because have get several days for taking rest, last night played on domestic league although held by Real Betis and Liverpool still have die and life last matchday tonight against with Wolves. I think Real Madrid have enough several days preparing for Champion League final than Liverpool have waiting domestic league match tonight, but chance for Carlo Ancelotti watching Liverpool games play against with Wolves and become good side for final match later.

Yes Madrid can focus for 7 days while Liverpool are 6 days, only one day difference I think it's not too effect the difference is Madrid played without risk last night
While Liverpool are still in the Premier League League title hunt this means that they have to play optimally, they can't play casually or slowly

It was a recovery time which wasn't too bad for Liverpool, just a day apart wouldn't be a problem for a professional club like Liverpool. But it's true when they can't play the slow rhythm of the game because they still have to win in their domestic league. But Liverpool managed to pass their match one by one well, like winning against Chelsea despite having to drain their stamina in 120 minutes of play.

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Quote from: wildey on May 20, 2022, 10:32:18 PM

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Real Madrid get advantage with UEFA Champion League final because have get several days for taking rest, last night played on domestic league although held by Real Betis and Liverpool still have die and life last matchday tonight against with Wolves. I think Real Madrid have enough several days preparing for Champion League final than Liverpool have waiting domestic league match tonight, but chance for Carlo Ancelotti watching Liverpool games play against with Wolves and become good side for final match later.

Yes Madrid can focus for 7 days while Liverpool are 6 days, only one day difference I think it's not too effect the difference is Madrid played without risk last night
While Liverpool are still in the Premier League League title hunt this means that they have to play optimally, they can't play casually or slowly

it's like Liverpool doing 2 finals shortly. they still have to be focused and serious for the premier league. but Liverpool also has to control their performance against Madrid.
Madrid is favored because of their history and experience in finals. but Liverpool this season is very strong. Liverpool is hungry for titles and they have earned quite a few this season. I'm sure it's not enough, the English Premier League and European Champions League trophies will complete Liverpool's madness this season.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on May 20, 2022, 10:31:24 PM

Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on May 20, 2022, 01:13:56 PM

I found a meme that was quite quirky in my opinion towards this final.
The journey of the two teams from the previous round. quite a contrast indeed if you look at the differences between the two clubs they are fighting for

I think this meme is suitable to describe the situation of Real Madrid, which is always faced with a strong team. but that doesn't mean i think liverpool is luckier. but as we know the teams that have been faced by real madrid are teams that have a myriad of achievements.

It makes sense when we look at Real Madrid's journey in the Champions League this season. They had to fight even harder to make a comeback after falling behind in the second leg which was impressive. Meanwhile Liverpool can still be said to be in an almost smooth category because they are faced with opponents who are still above the team they are playing against.

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Quote from: Bobrox on May 20, 2022, 10:16:21 PM

Real Madrid get advantage with UEFA Champion League final because have get several days for taking rest, last night played on domestic league although held by Real Betis and Liverpool still have die and life last matchday tonight against with Wolves. I think Real Madrid have enough several days preparing for Champion League final than Liverpool have waiting domestic league match tonight, but chance for Carlo Ancelotti watching Liverpool games play against with Wolves and become good side for final match later.

Yes Madrid can focus for 7 days while Liverpool are 6 days, only one day difference I think it's not too effect the difference is Madrid played without risk last night
While Liverpool are still in the Premier League League title hunt this means that they have to play optimally, they can't play casually or slowly

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on May 20, 2022, 01:13:56 PM

I found a meme that was quite quirky in my opinion towards this final.
The journey of the two teams from the previous round. quite a contrast indeed if you look at the differences between the two clubs they are fighting for

I think this meme is suitable to describe the situation of Real Madrid, which is always faced with a strong team. but that doesn't mean i think liverpool is luckier. but as we know the teams that have been faced by real madrid are teams that have a myriad of achievements.

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Real Madrid get advantage with UEFA Champion League final because have get several days for taking rest, last night played on domestic league although held by Real Betis and Liverpool still have die and life last matchday tonight against with Wolves. I think Real Madrid have enough several days preparing for Champion League final than Liverpool have waiting domestic league match tonight, but chance for Carlo Ancelotti watching Liverpool games play against with Wolves and become good side for final match later.

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Quote from: bekti3 on May 20, 2022, 04:36:07 PM

Actually in this case there are several other players who can be used as Super Sub like Asensio at Real Madrid because he is still quite good as a substitute.

Yes, there are some players that potentially become super subs in Real Madrid. Not only Asensio, they have Camavinga and Valverde. These midfielders are very good whenever they are released to be the substitution players. And Ancelotti often changes their tactics drastically when these super subs are released in 2nd half. Many people don't realize this.

Quote from: bekti3 on May 20, 2022, 04:36:07 PM

But indeed in this match Liverpool must also anticipate the movements of Vinicius and Rodrygo because Rodrygo's movements are sometimes dangerous

All Real Madrid attackers played very impressively in the previous round, so it is a wrong perception if only focus to anticipate Benzema. We all know Rodrygo, this man even can score 2 goals in 2 minutes.

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We can't say that the performance of both clubs has been a similar one and seeing real Madrid defeating Manchester City to qualify for the finals, and Liverpool facing a lesser clubs to qualify.

But this also can not guarantee the performance or winning ability of both clubs and in my opinion Liverpool has the upper hand in this finals.

True, their opponent in the previous round which could be said to be a pretty big team was only Inter there but even though that was the case, Liverpool's performance was really good in every way. I hate their good performance for now because indeed I am a fan of Madrid but indeed I will also not close my eyes considering their performance is really good and every line in the squad is very cohesive.

With real Madrid performance in tonight game where they played draw show how hopeful Liverpool will be, because most Liverpool fans have followed to laliga final match just to see how real Madrid will perform and I most say real Madrid not winning their tonight game show how less of an opponent their will be to Liverpool.

With just one week to go next Saturday is the final championship and Liverpool will face real Madrid.

This game would give them nothing. Real Madrid are already champions, they have nothing to lose even if they lose this final game, so they might as well not stress about the result, so Liverpool can just wait for the game and prepare, that's all. Liverpool have their last game in the league the day after tomorrow, that will decide their place in the table, if they win I will support them even more in the Champions League

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on May 20, 2022, 11:53:54 AM

Benzema, Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo are all talented. However, the outcome of Real Madrid's match depends on Benzema's performance. At least that's what we've seen in past Champions League matches. In the matches that Benzema did not play well, Real Madrid did not perform as well as expected. However, Vinicius has performed well in several matches.

Actually in this case there are several other players who can be used as Super Sub like Asensio at Real Madrid because he is still quite good as a substitute.
For Benzema, maybe in this match they will keep Benzema quite tight like when City against Madrid in the previous round.
But indeed in this match Liverpool must also anticipate the movements of Vinicius and Rodrygo because Rodrygo's movements are sometimes dangerous

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We can't say that the performance of both clubs has been a similar one and seeing real Madrid defeating Manchester City to qualify for the finals, and Liverpool facing a lesser clubs to qualify.

But this also can not guarantee the performance or winning ability of both clubs and in my opinion Liverpool has the upper hand in this finals.

True, their opponent in the previous round which could be said to be a pretty big team was only Inter there but even though that was the case, Liverpool's performance was really good in every way. I hate their good performance for now because indeed I am a fan of Madrid but indeed I will also not close my eyes considering their performance is really good and every line in the squad is very cohesive.

With real Madrid performance in tonight game where they played draw show how hopeful Liverpool will be, because most Liverpool fans have followed to laliga final match just to see how real Madrid will perform and I most say real Madrid not winning their tonight game show how less of an opponent their will be to Liverpool.

With just one week to go next Saturday is the final championship and Liverpool will face real Madrid.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on May 20, 2022, 01:22:18 PM

We can't say that the performance of both clubs has been a similar one and seeing real Madrid defeating Manchester City to qualify for the finals, and Liverpool facing a lesser clubs to qualify.

But this also can not guarantee the performance or winning ability of both clubs and in my opinion Liverpool has the upper hand in this finals.

True, their opponent in the previous round which could be said to be a pretty big team was only Inter there but even though that was the case, Liverpool's performance was really good in every way. I hate their good performance for now because indeed I am a fan of Madrid but indeed I will also not close my eyes considering their performance is really good and every line in the squad is very cohesive.

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I believe Madrid is ready for the final against Liverpool. There is even news that Ancelotti has announced the Madrid squad to compete in the final. Madrid can focus on this final match. It's not wrong if many people like it.
while Liverpool still has to focus for a few games. even the EPL is still under pressure to keep up with Man City. if they don't have a good rotation, Liverpool could be tired before the final.
I hope your team wins.

Real Madrid have good preparation for the final because they completed their task in La Liga with a championship weeks ago. Liverpool are still fighting for Premier League and they just spent 120 mintues to beat Chelsea in FA Cup.

The fitness of Mo Salah for the final.is important for Liverpool. His appearance can out more pressure on Real Madrid defense and creates more space for his mates to play. I am not Madridnista but I would prefer to see them win the final and makes this season as a perfect one for Benzema.

I certainly know that two teams are equal in their quality and the match will be too tightly.

I think that winning the FA cup could in fact be a hindrance to Liverpool, if they had lost the FA cup then it would have been easier for them to give up on their local tournament as well and give it all to try to win the Champions League, but since they won the FA cup then they cannot give up on the league and they will have to use all their starters in an attempt to win it all, something that benefits the Real Madrid as they will get to the final with all their starters being well rested.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on May 20, 2022, 10:38:46 AM

I think both teams will have some surprises in the game, like Real Madrid did when they made it through to the semi-finals when they knocked out Manchester City. Yes Rodrygo became an unexpected player And surprising in that match, with his two goals just 2 minutes later bringing Real Madrid to the final. And it seems like it will happen again no matter who the players are.

That type of surprise is the thing that makes this thing a match nobody really knows. I believe that we could be seeing a game where it will be a big challenge for LFC because they are clearly the better team this time around.

Last time Real won when they faced but they were seen as the better team yet they were playing worse and because of Salah deal and couple of mistakes by Karius suddenly they became the winner. So, I would guess that the thing we are talking about right now is would LFC the better team end up winning? Or would it be something similar and the worse team would have a chance and get lucky to win?

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on May 20, 2022, 01:13:56 PM

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I found a meme that was quite quirky in my opinion towards this final.
The journey of the two teams from the previous round. quite a contrast indeed if you look at the differences between the two clubs they are fighting for

Yeah Real Madrid way to the final game was pretty hard at the opposite of Liverpool but that doesn't mean anything for their face to face match.
For the moment and before a week from the game, Liverpool odds are better @2.13 vs 3.4 for Real Madrid with BTTS @1.62, well that's mean the game will be intense Wink

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Real Madrid didn’t have the best semi finals, they meet a highly attack minded Manchester city, who put in so much goin forward and like they always do they controlled Real Madrid for a good part of the game, then those defensive lapses has to come in play and Real Madrid are good are punishing teams for it, and that was also the case in the second leg, Manchester city scoring first and weren’t still able to hold in on their defense even when it remained little time for the game to come to an end. I doubt if Liverpool would act that way, Klopp’s men are very strong going Forward and even at the back they pay good attention there

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on May 20, 2022, 01:22:18 PM

We can't say that the performance of both clubs has been a similar one and seeing real Madrid defeating Manchester City to qualify for the finals, and Liverpool facing a lesser clubs to qualify.

But this also can not guarantee the performance or winning ability of both clubs and in my opinion Liverpool has the upper hand in this finals.

It was extra ordinary what Real Madrid did with Manchester City. Right from the first leg, it was a Manchester City dominance and advantage. With Manchester City taking the lead by scoring 2 goals before Real Madrid got to reply and they further pushed it to a 3rd and Real kept up with the response till it ended in a 4:3 in favour of Real Madrid. The second leg wasn't any less dramatic with Manchester City once more gaming the lead and pushing there advantage further with just few minutes on the clock before the Rodrygo moment came and he stole the day. Benzema for the 1st leg and Rodrygo for the second. With the go they've had at it this season, I can't say they would let Liverpool have this one.

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