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December 02, 2020, 10:06:57 AM


Since they are already qualified the squad list for Juventus is fulfilled with players from the Young selection.

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December 02, 2020, 10:01:44 AM
 Group B surprised again yesterday with Shakhtar's victory over Real, while Inter showed character and won a very important victory over Borussia. Now Inter has real chances to qualify from the group, but it's bad that Borusia still needs a good game for this. It is also interesting that if Real Madrid and Shakhtar win their matches, Borussia will not advance further in the playoffs of the Champions League. Good intrigue, I like it.
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December 02, 2020, 09:18:48 AM
Group H

Man U vs. PSG
RBL vs. IBFK

RBL will most likely get all 3 points and have a total of 9.

And if PSG wins at Old Trafford, it will be:
Man U - 9
PSG - 9
RBL - 9

Assuming that ^ happens, I expect PSG to move to the next round as they face IBFK on match day 6. Man U and RBL will be a do-or-die match  Grin

Man United will likely win today's match against PSG. That should qualify them and with RB Leipzig having 6 points currently, they'd have to win against Istanbul and at least draw against Man U. I have a feeling both PSG and Leipzig will win against Istanbul in the next two matches, only reason why Man U lost against them the first time is because they're swinging between victories/draws and defeats this season.

That should send Man U and PSG to the round of 16 while Leipzig doesn't qualify for it.
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December 02, 2020, 08:53:12 AM
Group H

Man U vs. PSG
RBL vs. IBFK

RBL will most likely get all 3 points and have a total of 9.

And if PSG wins at Old Trafford, it will be:
Man U - 9
PSG - 9
RBL - 9

Assuming that ^ happens, I expect PSG to move to the next round as they face IBFK on match day 6. Man U and RBL will be a do-or-die match  Grin
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December 02, 2020, 08:43:44 AM
I am starting to post my predictions for today's matches:
I bet for RB Lipsk against Basaksehir, I now they beated Man Utd but I think it was only one time accident and it won't repeat.
I bet for Borussia Dortmund, too as they will host a match I think they get a successful revenge against  Lazio.
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December 02, 2020, 08:33:48 AM
Interesting situation in Group F, where Zenit needs a win today, if they want to keep their hopes for EL participation after the CL group stage alive. A draw won't be enough, since they would lose the H2H - in first leg Brugge won 2-1 at Zenit. The Belgians themselves don't need the 3 points badly, IF Lazio loses at Dormund. A draw would put them 3 points behind Lazio then and with a win at Rome they would advance to KO phase. So the motivation of Brugge to go for 3 points relies a bit on what happens in Dortmund, but still Zenit has no choice but to play for the win. I like these scenarios and the over 2.5 @ 1.75 looks like a good bet here.

But it's really difficult for Zenit where they have to play away whereas in the last match Zenit lost at home I can't think how they would turn things around
For Zenit over 2.5 it is ok, also interesting to bet both teams to score.
Dortmund and Lazio also seem to be playing casually to avoid injury to players because they both have enough points.


I also would like to do agree with you over 2.5 is looking attractive to take risk on it so we can expect this match would be interesting as Zenit will have to perform extraordinary to keep them into this event otherwise lost of that match they will be into big trouble so let's see what happen when it will be kicked off.
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December 02, 2020, 08:30:39 AM
But it's really difficult for Zenit where they have to play away whereas in the last match Zenit lost at home I can't think how they would turn things around
For Zenit over 2.5 it is ok, also interesting to bet both teams to score.
Dortmund and Lazio also seem to be playing casually to avoid injury to players because they both have enough points.

Yes, Zenit have disappointed during this CL campaign and they were struggling a bit in domestic league lately as well, but you also have to consider the fact, that they have to score at least two goals to have a chance to win the H2H against Brugge. A 1-0 win won't do it, since first leg was 2-1 for Belgians. A 2-0+ today would do the trick, a 2-1 would tie the H2H and results like 3-2/4-3/etc. would also win them the H2H. I do think they are very interested in continuing to play in EL, so I think they will take a quite offensive approach, which should then also open up some space for Brugge. And if Brugge takes the lead, you will see Zenit pushing all the time. BTS is a good option as well, but odds are slightly lower, thus I went with the over instead, lets see.

Dortmund will probably be happy with a draw today, since it would secure promotion to KO phase. They are not the team go for a draw, but if the game is tied middle/late second half, they won't go for the win no matter what just to take top spot in the group. Lazio can live with a draw as well, so I am expecting a rather boring game like you.
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December 02, 2020, 08:28:46 AM
I want to believe that it is very tight for Inter Milan to qualify for both champions league and europa league; i say this because Inter milan qualification depends on many probabilities. Borrusia has a goal difference of +8, which means that for Inter to qualify; Madrid has to defeat Borrusia; while Milan wins shahktar and even at that; Borussia would be top of the table with more goals scored.

Shahktar needs a point at Milan; Madrid needs a win
Inter Milan needs a win of 2 goals +; while Borussia needs a draw at most

A very interesting GW6 Ahead
They were leading two times and wasted it all away last night.
Inter now has to face reality that they will going nowhere but suffering in the corner seeing themselves just unlucky .
One of a hell crazy group i have ever seen especially in this pandemic edition where real madrid almost wont make it through the group stage.
It could be a bad history for the club lol
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December 02, 2020, 08:11:34 AM
A really important win for Inter, it keeps them in the game. Since they're playing Shakhtar at home in the last game, I think they have a decent chance to qualify.
The only problem for them is that if Real and Borussia Monchengladbach play a draw, they both go through if Shakhtar does not win - so they might play it safe.

Liverpool played well against Ajax, Kelleher has potential to be a decent goalkeeper. We qualified as 1st in our group and we'll probably go on a field trip to Denmark.
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December 02, 2020, 07:28:01 AM
Interesting situation in Group F, where Zenit needs a win today, if they want to keep their hopes for EL participation after the CL group stage alive. A draw won't be enough, since they would lose the H2H - in first leg Brugge won 2-1 at Zenit. The Belgians themselves don't need the 3 points badly, IF Lazio loses at Dormund. A draw would put them 3 points behind Lazio then and with a win at Rome they would advance to KO phase. So the motivation of Brugge to go for 3 points relies a bit on what happens in Dortmund, but still Zenit has no choice but to play for the win. I like these scenarios and the over 2.5 @ 1.75 looks like a good bet here.

But it's really difficult for Zenit where they have to play away whereas in the last match Zenit lost at home I can't think how they would turn things around
For Zenit over 2.5 it is ok, also interesting to bet both teams to score.
Dortmund and Lazio also seem to be playing casually to avoid injury to players because they both have enough points.
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December 02, 2020, 07:19:36 AM
8 of 16 teams are now qualified for the final stage of the CL



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%9321_UEFA_Champions_League

Focus on Group B

Borussia 8
Shakhtar 8
Real 7
Inter 5

Last turn

Inter - Shakhtar
Borussia - Real

Inter will pass in Champions if

-They win and Real beat Borussia

Inter will pass in Europa League

-They win and Real will not beat Borussia

Inter stays in Milan if they don't win.


In Italy we call it "biscotto" when the other game needs a draw to qualify the other 2 teams, it will be this case?

I want to believe that it is very tight for Inter Milan to qualify for both champions league and europa league; i say this because Inter milan qualification depends on many probabilities. Borrusia has a goal difference of +8, which means that for Inter to qualify; Madrid has to defeat Borrusia; while Milan wins shahktar and even at that; Borussia would be top of the table with more goals scored.

Shahktar needs a point at Milan; Madrid needs a win
Inter Milan needs a win of 2 goals +; while Borussia needs a draw at most

A very interesting GW6 Ahead
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December 02, 2020, 05:35:39 AM
Interesting situation in Group F, where Zenit needs a win today, if they want to keep their hopes for EL participation after the CL group stage alive. A draw won't be enough, since they would lose the H2H - in first leg Brugge won 2-1 at Zenit. The Belgians themselves don't need the 3 points badly, IF Lazio loses at Dormund. A draw would put them 3 points behind Lazio then and with a win at Rome they would advance to KO phase. So the motivation of Brugge to go for 3 points relies a bit on what happens in Dortmund, but still Zenit has no choice but to play for the win. I like these scenarios and the over 2.5 @ 1.75 looks like a good bet here.
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December 02, 2020, 04:50:00 AM
I am on both to score market on this game but over should be a good bet as well. For me both to score is more realistic since I see this game finishing 1:1 much more likely then it finishing 3:0 for one of the sides. I am actually expecting a result like 3:1, same as in the first game.

Sounds good, will just take the safer route and play the BTTS as I for sure see both teams scoring and would be mad if the game ends 1:1 and I miss my over bet...

I will be watching United - PSG today, should be goals in this one as well but I am betting on over cards tonight, both teams have some fast and tricky attacking players and I am expecting a lot of cynical fouls today. Daniele Orsato is referee in this one and he likes to give out the cards and averages over 5 cards per game.

Solid advice!
Will look at the card market and also expect a tough fought match which should result in a couple of cards shown!
Thanks!
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December 02, 2020, 04:41:10 AM

In Italy we call it "biscotto" when the other game needs a draw to qualify the other 2 teams, it will be this case?

but, it is not that simple, they could pass both in case of draw, but only if Shakhtar does not win over Inter, so I would not count on Borussia and Real play on a draw card, maybe they will wait for Inter to have 2:0 or something, but I do not believe that this could be an easy setup for anyone

would not count out Shakhtar in next round, for me it is really unbelievable that they lost both matches from Borussia, with ten goals conceived, no comment for me, it is a solid team
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December 02, 2020, 04:24:25 AM
Do we see Dortmund winning today after the terrible Performance against Köln on the Weekend? They looked very bad in that game and was kind of surprised to see them lose there...
I see both teams scoring in that game, dont know if I want to take the BTTS in that game or the over...

Any advice on that game?

I am on both to score market on this game but over should be a good bet as well. For me both to score is more realistic since I see this game finishing 1:1 much more likely then it finishing 3:0 for one of the sides. I am actually expecting a result like 3:1, same as in the first game.

I will be watching United - PSG today, should be goals in this one as well but I am betting on over cards tonight, both teams have some fast and tricky attacking players and I am expecting a lot of cynical fouls today. Daniele Orsato is referee in this one and he likes to give out the cards and averages over 5 cards per game.
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December 02, 2020, 04:03:02 AM
8 of 16 teams are now qualified for the final stage of the CL



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%9321_UEFA_Champions_League

Focus on Group B

Borussia 8
Shakhtar 8
Real 7
Inter 5

Last turn

Inter - Shakhtar
Borussia - Real

Inter will pass in Champions if

-They win and Real beat Borussia

Inter will pass in Europa League

-They win and Real will not beat Borussia

Inter stays in Milan if they don't win.


In Italy we call it "biscotto" when the other game needs a draw to qualify the other 2 teams, it will be this case?

I am confident that Inter will at least be in Europa League although I hope they go further in Champions League.During the last two years they have shown great performance in Serie A and I think their error in Champions League so far has been that to underestimate Borussia when playing in Milano.
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December 02, 2020, 03:24:29 AM
Do we see Dortmund winning today after the terrible Performance against Köln on the Weekend? They looked very bad in that game and was kind of surprised to see them lose there...
I see both teams scoring in that game, dont know if I want to take the BTTS in that game or the over...

Any advice on that game?
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December 02, 2020, 03:01:37 AM
Inter Milan still have one chance to replace Shakhtar or Real Madrid in this round. With a note, Shakhtar lost to Inter Milan in the last match. This result will bringing Inter to UEL if Madrid win. If Madrid lose, then Inter are entitled to qualify for the next round at UCL. The draw in the last match meant nothing to them, as they couldn't compete at UCL or UEL.

The match in Group H, will be very interesting. Because points between ranks 1 - 3 can end up the same, which is 9 points. This will be determined by the difference between the goals concedeed or the team's performance at Home & Away.
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December 02, 2020, 02:12:49 AM
I was kind of happy to see Shakhtar win the match. They had a great game and like you said have been in great form recently.
Benzema is their Superstar now and if he is not doing good it seems to pull down the whole team.

Man City, come on, I really thought it was going to be a win. Close but def. a win but oh my was I wrong Cheesy
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December 02, 2020, 02:07:07 AM

It was a crazy day yesterday though...
Porto/Manchester and Real losing again... wow.
Really a great day. In the Porto and Man City match, I thought Man City will win the match. But the match was drawn. I lost the bet. I expect a better match strategy from Guardiola.
The match between Real Madrid and Shakhtar was completely unpredictable for me. Real Madrid is a good team. But Shakhtar is in the form now. I was confused about this match. I am happy that Shakhtar won the match. We see again that it is very difficult for Real to win any match if Benzema is not successful.
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