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Quote from: tokeweed on November 02, 2020, 02:59:42 PM

^ Inter not having Lukaku available to play is a huge blow. I'm not totally familiar with Inter's squad but my initial impression would be Real's has the better squad...

It's a big blow Lukaku can rely on in tonight's match, but there are still Martinez and Perisic who can be counted on up front but I'm not so sure in defense I think for Inter Milan it's not strong enough.
Madrid are used to winning in CL but tonight they need to prove against Inter Milan.

Quote from: tokeweed on November 02, 2020, 02:59:42 PM

Oh and just heard that covid has spread at Ajax. Lots of players getting sick.

Likewise this is a huge blow with a spread that continues to expand to the point of causing multiple players to be affected, oh my god we gotta get that protocol tighter.

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Quote from: docdiss on November 03, 2020, 03:29:11 AM

Two bets for today:

Real Madrid vs Inter Milan - MY BET

Atalanta vs Liverpool - MY BET

I will also go that way, but I am not 100% optimistic that I will make a profit from these two bets, because Liverpool this season has problems in defense and also on time to scoring goals has also had problems and Atalanta Is a team that it seems that he made a pact with some Greek god so that in most games he scores a lot of goals. Real madrid is also an inconsistent team, the real madrid advantage in my opinion is that they have a lot of individual quality players, real madrid does not need to play well to win a game and that is a good thing. I would say that today I will be betting based on feelings because I am a fan of Real Madrid and Liverpool

Quote from: docdiss on November 03, 2020, 03:29:11 AM

I think both Real and Liverpool should win rather easily

I really wanted this to be true, but in reality it will be very difficult games for Real Madrid and Atalanta

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Tuesday 3rd November
Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Atletico Madrid
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 M'gladbach
Atalanta 20:00 Liverpool
FC Midtjylland 20:00 Ajax
FC Porto 20:00 Marseille
Manchester City 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Real Madrid 20:00 Inter Milan
Red Bull Salzburg 20:00 Bayern Munich

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Big game Real-Inter, a game for In or Out from the Champions, who will lose it will probably out from the Champions.
Actually Real has 1 point and Inter 2.

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I think that beside that game which I agree is the most beautiful to watch on Tv all the other games are relatively easy for the stronger teams.I would choose Bayern Munchen,Mancchester City and Ajax as what I think would be a sure win ticket from tonight Champions League games.

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Did you guys watched the last couple matches of liverpool?
They are sucks in defending without van dijk at the back and also bad in attacking without penalty , they given 2 penalty in the last 2 matches too.
Another bad records is that they have conceded 15 goals in the league , 2nd worst after west brom 16 goals.
With the stats above i believe the match will have a lot of goals , 2-2 is my score prediction.

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Two bets for today:

Real Madrid vs Inter Milan - MY BET

Atalanta vs Liverpool - MY BET

I think both Real and Liverpool should win rather easily, Madrid has to bounce back at some point in CL, it might be today. Atalanta did not impressed me in match against Ajax, they had really bad first half. Odds for both teams are really well so imho it's kinda low risk for decent reward Grin

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 03, 2020, 02:39:01 AM

I think easy bro for Shakhtar Donetsk to get three points from Borussia Monchengladbach tonight, look with his record match after success defeat Real Madrid and draw with Inter Milan I think Shakhtar Donetsk have most bigger chance to get winner tonight than Borussia Monchengladbach, just have not lucky for Borussia Monchengladbach after draw with Real Madrid although have superior position when palying with Real Madrid but last minute Casemeiro hit the equalizer and lost opportunity for Borussia Monchengladbach have lost points. I think both club Donesk and Borussia Monchengladbach will playing ahrd how to get three points and make them easy to going on to knock out group stage.

But Monchengladbach are actually arguably even fitter and better than the Real Madrid or Inter team that Shakhtar played against. The odds are almost equal for both right now so I guess even a draw is an expected outcome here. Would love for Inter/Real to draw, and either of the other to win. They deserve to go through rather than Real or Inter based on how they've been playing.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on November 03, 2020, 01:23:29 AM

Even though Shakhtar Donetsk is currently leading the table in this group, but I think it will not be an easy task for Shakhtar Donetsk to gain points from Borussia Monchengladbach today, and surprisingly the bookmakers have made Borussia Monchengladbach as the favorite team to win this match judging by the odds payout even though Shakhtar Donetsk will be playing this match at their home stadium, I guess maybe Borussia Monchengladbach might be able to beat Shakhtar Donetsk today.

I think easy bro for Shakhtar Donetsk to get three points from Borussia Monchengladbach tonight, look with his record match after success defeat Real Madrid and draw with Inter Milan I think Shakhtar Donetsk have most bigger chance to get winner tonight than Borussia Monchengladbach, just have not lucky for Borussia Monchengladbach after draw with Real Madrid although have superior position when palying with Real Madrid but last minute Casemeiro hit the equalizer and lost opportunity for Borussia Monchengladbach have lost points. I think both club Donesk and Borussia Monchengladbach will playing ahrd how to get three points and make them easy to going on to knock out group stage.

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Even though Shakhtar Donetsk is currently leading the table in this group, but I think it will not be an easy task for Shakhtar Donetsk to gain points from Borussia Monchengladbach today, and surprisingly the bookmakers have made Borussia Monchengladbach as the favorite team to win this match judging by the odds payout even though Shakhtar Donetsk will be playing this match at their home stadium, I guess maybe Borussia Monchengladbach might be able to beat Shakhtar Donetsk today.

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Quote from: ingiltere on November 02, 2020, 11:51:37 PM

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Big game Real-Inter, a game for In or Out from the Champions, who will lose it will probably out from the Champions.
Actually Real has 1 point and Inter 2.

I don't think it has much effect for the group because all teams have similar points.
Shakhtar has 4 points which is a slight advantage, Mönchengladbach and Inter have 2 points and Real Madrid has 1 point. Even if Real Madrid lose tonight they still have a chance to qualify.

This group is too unpredictable to me. All I know is, people who underestimated Shakhtar Donetsk made a huge mistake.

Real Madrid have to appear all-out in tonight's match against Inter Milan, Madrid's position in the standings is terrible they have to settle for being at the caretaker of only one point. I prefer Real Madrid to win even already planning to make a bet to Real Madrid tonight.
In addition, Madrid's condition has improved slightly after successfully defeating Huesca by a landslide score of 4-1, Madrid's positive trend will continue in the champions league against Inter Milan tonight, coupled with Eden Hazard's impressive performance after being able to score one beautiful goal against Huesca yesterday.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 02, 2020, 02:18:32 PM

Big game Real-Inter, a game for In or Out from the Champions, who will lose it will probably out from the Champions.
Actually Real has 1 point and Inter 2.

I don't think it has much effect for the group because all teams have similar points.
Shakhtar has 4 points which is a slight advantage, Mönchengladbach and Inter have 2 points and Real Madrid has 1 point. Even if Real Madrid lose tonight they still have a chance to qualify.

This group is too unpredictable to me. All I know is, people who underestimated Shakhtar Donetsk made a huge mistake.

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Real must definitely win at least one of the two matches with Inter. And then win the rest of the matches with Shakhtar and Borussia. Then they can count on getting out of the group. The same applies to Inter.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 02, 2020, 02:59:42 PM

Oh and just heard that covid has spread at Ajax. Lots of players getting sick.

If someone are planning to bet on Ajax, I think it's better to reconsider it. Despite it, odds for their win webt down from 2.15 to 1.95. Maybe someone is going with Midtjylland win? Cheesy

Real - Inter should be a great game. Real don't have right to make more mistakes.
And for me odds for Shakhtar win looks interesting. I'm not so sure that they can't beat Borussia M. at home.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 02, 2020, 02:59:42 PM

^ Inter not having Lukaku available to play is a huge blow.

considering how Real got wrecked by Shakhtar's B team, i don't know if Lukaku being sidelined would be that big a difference lol especially if Varane has one of those CL brainfarts and turns into a youth academy player during the match

and yeah, terrible news for Ajax. From their twitter acc: https://twitter.com/AFCAjax/status/1323282305335676928 No Tadic, Onana, Klaassen & many more

looks like the odds in this match shifted by quite a bit in the bookies, Ajax ML is now at 2.08 odds, Midtjylland ML at 3.35 on FJ. No changes on Sportsbet for now, they have Ajax at 1.61, Midtjylland at 4.50 (without boost) 🤔

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^ Inter not having Lukaku available to play is a huge blow. I'm not totally familiar with Inter's squad but my initial impression would be Real's has the better squad...

Oh and just heard that covid has spread at Ajax. Lots of players getting sick.

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Tuesday 3rd November
Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Atletico Madrid
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 M'gladbach
Atalanta 20:00 Liverpool
FC Midtjylland 20:00 Ajax
FC Porto 20:00 Marseille
Manchester City 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Real Madrid 20:00 Inter Milan
Red Bull Salzburg 20:00 Bayern Munich

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Big game Real-Inter, a game for In or Out from the Champions, who will lose it will probably out from the Champions.
Actually Real has 1 point and Inter 2.

Hala Madrid

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Atalanta vs. Liverpool - pretty good odds for Liverpool here @2.1 (Bitsler) Do you think Atalanta can contain them? Will LFC pump the break and rest some key players?

Another one I'm looking at is RB Leipzig vs. PSG - RBL plays at home but PSG remains the favorite and at pretty good odds too at 2.23 (Bitsler). What's your take?

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Quote from: MCobian on October 30, 2020, 06:24:19 PM

~I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

I also think the same, Pirlo has a big potential to be a great coach in the future. Sure, he needs time to learn and take experiences. Once you become a coach, it is quite different than being a player. A coach should know more complex things in a match, he must master the strategy and have the responsibility to rise up the motivation of all players (before and during the match). Also, he must decide which players to put as the starters and which ones to be substituted players. A coach also needs to learn how to get the right solution for unexpected situations happening during the match.

I think that he will be more like Conte - they have also the same style!
It is good to see players from the Golden era of Milan such as Gattuso, Pirlo, Maldini ,etc to see them in more administrative positions
Fans are always reluctant to the coach during the first season so it is totally a good opportunity for Pirlo to learn and improve his skills and coaching abilities.

I like Andrea Pirlo have calm style how ever with his team performance win or loss he always calm and take cool, I think he look like Zidane always protect and support his player although loss, never make mistake and fault when his team lost. Need time for Andrea Pirlo how to bring Juventus back to era Conte where become the champion of Serie A and Allegri moment could bring to final Champion League before defeat by Barcelona, every coach have different style with team games need more than one or two months to adopt his style for Juventus and give more winner defend the title of scudetto and get lucky with champion league.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 01, 2020, 07:42:36 PM

Quote from: MCobian on October 30, 2020, 06:24:19 PM

~I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

I also think the same, Pirlo has a big potential to be a great coach in the future. Sure, he needs time to learn and take experiences. Once you become a coach, it is quite different than being a player. A coach should know more complex things in a match, he must master the strategy and have the responsibility to rise up the motivation of all players (before and during the match). Also, he must decide which players to put as the starters and which ones to be substituted players. A coach also needs to learn how to get the right solution for unexpected situations happening during the match.

I think that he will be more like Conte - they have also the same style!
It is good to see players from the Golden era of Milan such as Gattuso, Pirlo, Maldini ,etc to see them in more administrative positions
Fans are always reluctant to the coach during the first season so it is totally a good opportunity for Pirlo to learn and improve his skills and coaching abilities.

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on October 30, 2020, 04:22:53 PM

He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't any record of success.

Yes, people state Pirlo potentially becomes a good coach because he has a great experience once he was a player. Also, he was a midfielder who basically plans the strategy for the team to attack or defend (besides the coach), so I think people have reasons to claim him to be a good coach. But yes I agree with you if now he isn't a good coach yet. However, you also can't claim him as a bad coach as well. He just started his career as the coach of a big team, he needs time to show his skills or his potential.

I agree that Pirlo needs time to show his potential as a coach, because Pirlo's lack is experience. He needs this season to learn to bring out
his skills in making a good strategy for Juventus, therefore do not get your hopes up that Juventus will win many trophies this season.
Because Pirlo needs to adapt first, but I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

The problem is... Does he really have potential?

**Insert Ronaldo doesn't listen to Pirlo meme.jpg**

Anyway.. Lukaku and Sanchez injured for Inter and Real Madrid desperate for a W. I got Real ML at 1.92. And got a parlay with Cheslea and Man United to win vs lower tier clubs at 1.98ish. Grin

What do you guys think?

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on October 30, 2020, 04:22:53 PM

The atheltic coach is part of the training staff .... And how could you decide that Pirlo is a good coach? He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't any record of success. I wasn't really a fan when they made him coach. They should have given him some time to get experience before they threw him in at the deep end.

because Pirlo has always played as a strategist, it is no coincidence that he was in the center of the field.
and also because he was a person who made himself loved in the locker room, a sign that he has a good character and knows how to relate to people

a good person and speaking and strategy, in my opinion he has what it takes to be a good coach

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