UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 91.

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I think Salah is a top player and undoubtedly he has been great for Liverpool since joining them but labeling him the best player in the world is out of place imo. Salah is not in the same level with Benzema and to be honest I think if not for preference in the club, Sadio Mane is may arguably be better than him.

I think if they had played at such a high level in different seasons both would have got the golden ball, but alas Benzema looks much better, this season he has impressed even me, a man who is not much into real madrid, but it was his play in this team that was very interesting to watch. Salah has been less prominent this year, I think I'll give preference to Karim

Karim Benzema appearance on the pitch seemed like a trance, the goals created by Benzema were able to take Madrid to the Champions League final. Benzema is like being reborn, as long as Ronaldo is at Real Madrid, Benzema role is not very visible. Now that Santiago Bernabeu public hopes are on Benzema shoulders, bringing Real Madrid to champions is a must. Obviously Benzema has been above Salah level this season, but the winning team gave his players the chance to win the Ballon d'Or.

I think so too, obviously. I've never seen Benzema in such great form before, he deserves a better award, but the way I see it now it's important for him and his team to win the Champions League and probably Karim will be the best player this season in the Champions League. The match is just around the corner, I think I'll be confined to the couch and watching it with great interest

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Real Madrid played PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City to the finals I think Liverpool won't have survived if they had faced those teams.
Irrespective of the age and experience of the Madrid team, I think the club itself being a big club has a role in playing how formidable the team have been. Liverpool team is quite younger, majority of them have been playing together for a while too. The difference between them and Real Madrid will be strong character and mentality.

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The big question is will Manchester City lose their weekend game and if that happens then Liverpool will be in a good position to make a big history in 2022 the club will make a triple victory.

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Quote from: Rana590 on May 18, 2022, 02:00:20 PM

Yeah we can't tell it just only luck. Real Madrid is so confident to win match against any team. Performance from teams are also good. They have some young players like Vini Jr, Rodrygo and they can change the result at any time.

But in this case they can't be completely confident because their current opponent is quite good especially for defense.
at this time you could say in conceding the ball of course Liverpool is a club that has made more clean saves in the Champions League compared to Madrid and this is proof that their defense is strong enough and quite difficult to penetrate.

At the moment Vini, Rodrygo and Benzema maybe have to try a little more especially this is a final

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Quote from: zuzie on May 18, 2022, 12:07:12 PM

Quote from: Odusko on May 18, 2022, 11:26:56 AM

Since the finals are around the corner I advise Liverpool to play fewer of their main players in the premier league remaining leg and try to focus more on the champion league finals

It's getting more difficult for Liverpool, they will face two important match in the near future. I don't think Liverpool will field a main player before the UEFA Champions League final. In the EPL they are uncertain because they are in position 2, while in the UCL it is certain because Liverpool are already in the final and there are no positions 1 and 2 before the match starts.

Because in EPL it's only profitable if City loses and it's quite difficult to happen, so their focus is definitely UCL for now considering their opportunity here is still there.
but even in this case I actually still have doubts about Klopp's decision later because if you see from the start he prefers to bet for all possibilities so maybe he will still play with quite a bit of chance in the EPL

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This signal will be very dangerous for Liverpool, as if Real Madrid confirmed that they are the kings of the Champions League, Manchester City played very well in the first half, making it difficult for Real Madrid to penetrate their goal, but in the second half Real Madrid played a little open, until the end. second half Real Madrid can score two goals in a very short time, Liverpool need to be vigilant later in the final, otherwise they want to experience the same problem as Manchester City.
Congratulations to Real Madrid fans and hope to win

You have to realize that Real Madrid are the kings of the Champions League so far and they are very close to the title again after beating Manchester City in the second leg. Liverpool of course have to be wary of Real Madrid with its huge status in the Champions League, but if you watch their match then you are sure Liverpool will easily break into Real Madrid's goal whose defense is not as good as expected.

Real Madrid were just lucky to score 2 goals during the second half injury time because overall they didn't have many chances to score during the 90 minutes. Manchester City failed the final in a very disappointing way, and they should mark it as a history of shame.

How confidently the defeat of Manchester City yesterday was only a matter of luck, if you see the history of Real Madrid they have done this three times in a different season, it is undeniable that luck is in Real Madrid, but we also need to see that Ancelotti is a senior coach In the Champions League, I think it's not just a matter of luck, but Staregi and the way the coach in making decisions in the final minutes is also very influential, which needs to be done only to improve the defense, the rest of Real Madrid will get closer to the champions this season

In contrary, I think Real Madrid played a better game, it was not a show of lucky. In fact, saying Manchester City was unlucky is clearly undermining the tactics Ancelotti and his men employed to that game. Real Madrid never panicked for one second even when they were losing. The cameras at some point in the game caught Benzema and some players laughing, they knew Manchester City players were tired and that was the plan. Wear them out and strike! Real Madrid executed it at the right time and it was clear the game was over.

Yeah we can't tell it just only luck. Real Madrid is so confident to win match against any team. Performance from teams are also good. They have some young players like Vini Jr, Rodrygo and they can change the result at any time.

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Quote from: aryana42 on May 18, 2022, 05:31:47 AM

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This signal will be very dangerous for Liverpool, as if Real Madrid confirmed that they are the kings of the Champions League, Manchester City played very well in the first half, making it difficult for Real Madrid to penetrate their goal, but in the second half Real Madrid played a little open, until the end. second half Real Madrid can score two goals in a very short time, Liverpool need to be vigilant later in the final, otherwise they want to experience the same problem as Manchester City.
Congratulations to Real Madrid fans and hope to win

You have to realize that Real Madrid are the kings of the Champions League so far and they are very close to the title again after beating Manchester City in the second leg. Liverpool of course have to be wary of Real Madrid with its huge status in the Champions League, but if you watch their match then you are sure Liverpool will easily break into Real Madrid's goal whose defense is not as good as expected.

Real Madrid were just lucky to score 2 goals during the second half injury time because overall they didn't have many chances to score during the 90 minutes. Manchester City failed the final in a very disappointing way, and they should mark it as a history of shame.

How confidently the defeat of Manchester City yesterday was only a matter of luck, if you see the history of Real Madrid they have done this three times in a different season, it is undeniable that luck is in Real Madrid, but we also need to see that Ancelotti is a senior coach In the Champions League, I think it's not just a matter of luck, but Staregi and the way the coach in making decisions in the final minutes is also very influential, which needs to be done only to improve the defense, the rest of Real Madrid will get closer to the champions this season

In contrary, I think Real Madrid played a better game, it was not a show of lucky. In fact, saying Manchester City was unlucky is clearly undermining the tactics Ancelotti and his men employed to that game. Real Madrid never panicked for one second even when they were losing. The cameras at some point in the game caught Benzema and some players laughing, they knew Manchester City players were tired and that was the plan. Wear them out and strike! Real Madrid executed it at the right time and it was clear the game was over.

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Quote from: Odusko on May 18, 2022, 11:26:56 AM

Since the finals are around the corner I advise Liverpool to play fewer of their main players in the premier league remaining leg and try to focus more on the champion league finals

It's getting more difficult for Liverpool, they will face two important match in the near future. I don't think Liverpool will field a main player before the UEFA Champions League final. In the EPL they are uncertain because they are in position 2, while in the UCL it is certain because Liverpool are already in the final and there are no positions 1 and 2 before the match starts.

Liverpool are currently busy with a hectic schedule ahead of the Champions League final against Real Madrid where Jurgen's side have been forced to play twice in a week after beating Chelsea in the FA Cup final they are forced to play Southampton in the Premier League and next week they have to face wolverhampton wandres of course they really drain the stamina of the players ahead of the final match while this is different from their opponent's path real Madrid they have been playing the substitutes since week 35 of course this gives them a positive impact on users facing the final match on 29 next May

Check, isn't the UCL final scheduled for Saturday, May 28, at 21:00, did I miss any information?
By the way, yes it looks like Liverpool's next two games will be finals, premier league decider final and champions league decider, but I'm a little worried about Liverpool's defense, it's been looking weak lately

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Quote from: zuzie on May 18, 2022, 12:07:12 PM

Quote from: Odusko on May 18, 2022, 11:26:56 AM

Since the finals are around the corner I advise Liverpool to play fewer of their main players in the premier league remaining leg and try to focus more on the champion league finals

It's getting more difficult for Liverpool, they will face two important match in the near future. I don't think Liverpool will field a main player before the UEFA Champions League final. In the EPL they are uncertain because they are in position 2, while in the UCL it is certain because Liverpool are already in the final and there are no positions 1 and 2 before the match starts.

Liverpool are currently busy with a hectic schedule ahead of the Champions League final against Real Madrid where Jurgen's side have been forced to play twice in a week after beating Chelsea in the FA Cup final they are forced to play Southampton in the Premier League and next week they have to face wolverhampton wandres of course they really drain the stamina of the players ahead of the final match while this is different from their opponent's path real Madrid they have been playing the substitutes since week 35 of course this gives them a positive impact on users facing the final match on 29 next May

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About 10 more days until the UCL final between Liverpool Vs Real Madrid will take place, I really can't wait to see this match run. Based on polls circulating on the Internet, there are lots of people who believe Liverpool will win the UCL this season. I also prefer Liverpool and have placed a bet for them in the final even though it is Real Madrid that has the mentality to win, let's see how the match will turn out.

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Quote from: Odusko on May 18, 2022, 11:26:56 AM

Since the finals are around the corner I advise Liverpool to play fewer of their main players in the premier league remaining leg and try to focus more on the champion league finals

It's getting more difficult for Liverpool, they will face two important match in the near future. I don't think Liverpool will field a main player before the UEFA Champions League final. In the EPL they are uncertain because they are in position 2, while in the UCL it is certain because Liverpool are already in the final and there are no positions 1 and 2 before the match starts.

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Fabinho injury is not so severe that if conditions allow he will play in the next match, but if his condition in the match affects his injury then he should be given a dispensation not to be full time because he needs full recovery treatment.

So far, the problem of player injuries is the thing that both teams fear the most when doing training or official matches. I admit some Liverpool players are injured but I am very sure the medical team will announce soon that all these players will be ready to play in the final.

I don't agree that current player injuries are the reason why Liverpool should lose the title this season. Liverpool are a team and they need to be able to cope even without some of their main players in the match. But of course their recovery is the main thing that is being worked on.

It's impossible for that reason I also believe Liverpool will be ready with the title, the reason some of the injured players are still in the recovery stage but there is a possibility it will be ready in the final I believe Liverpool's players will be ready and recover everything.
I don't care if it's still injured but Liverpool players are still dominant, with the conclusion that if a lot of Liverpool players get injured it won't affect their game, the ambition in the final will still be revenge for Liverpool against Real Madrid.

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Quote from: whiteblue on May 18, 2022, 10:41:06 AM

Fabinho injury is not so severe that if conditions allow he will play in the next match, but if his condition in the match affects his injury then he should be given a dispensation not to be full time because he needs full recovery treatment.

So far, the problem of player injuries is the thing that both teams fear the most when doing training or official matches. I admit some Liverpool players are injured but I am very sure the medical team will announce soon that all these players will be ready to play in the final.

I don't agree that current player injuries are the reason why Liverpool should lose the title this season. Liverpool are a team and they need to be able to cope even without some of their main players in the match. But of course their recovery is the main thing that is being worked on.

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Liverpool o prepare the players as most of the players play as if they're out of form, maybe because of the minor injuries as you mentioned.
Since the finals are around the corner I advise Liverpool to play fewer of their main players in the premier league remaining leg and try to focus more on the champion league finals Real Madrid players have rested truly since they have the space in between marches to do so but real Madrid has an upcoming match before the final championship leg so they do need to get well prepared.

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Quote from: hyudien on May 18, 2022, 10:51:19 AM

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If Salah and Van Dijk can recover faster then of course it is still good news for Liverpool, because these three players can be said to be key players because they are in each different line. Defenders, Midfielders and Forwards it is their position and they play an important role in that position. Although there are other players who also have good quality, but it will be great if Klopp has all his players in top condition in the final match.

If it were to be completely absent, it would definitely make things easier for Real Madrid and that's what Carlo Ancelotti is hoping for. Liverpool mistake was to force the main players to finish in the Premier League so they risked injury. As we can see, Liverpool is very much targeting the Premier League at a time when they are also being pressured to focus on preparing for the Champions League. It will be a big loss if M. Salah cannot play optimally.

these two are key players for Liverpool, but news from Liverpool's medical team says even M.Salah and Van Dijk will certainly recover before the final and they are ready to play.
I hope these two teams will be able to field all their main players so that the match will be more interesting, this is the final for both teams who have played very well this season, it is difficult to predict who will be the champion, both teams still have the same chance.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 18, 2022, 10:32:11 AM

Yes, real Madrid seems not to have serious matches moreover in La Liga, real Madrid has been the winner and brings the trophy home although they lose in some matches remaining. that is why they don't need to always put their main players to the match. this is different enough with the codnitio in Liverpool.

There is still time for each team to prepare all the players and their strategies for the final match. Liverpool have player fitness issues as some of them are minor injuries, which will be resolved soon and shouldn't be a big problem for them at the moment. 10 days to the final, so there's a lot that's possible for both teams.

Real Madrid rested their main players, that's only natural because they've already secured the league title. But to let them not get the chance to maintain their form is a mistake.

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Quote from: hahay on May 18, 2022, 09:51:59 AM

If Salah and Van Dijk can recover faster then of course it is still good news for Liverpool, because these three players can be said to be key players because they are in each different line. Defenders, Midfielders and Forwards it is their position and they play an important role in that position. Although there are other players who also have good quality, but it will be great if Klopp has all his players in top condition in the final match.

If it were to be completely absent, it would definitely make things easier for Real Madrid and that's what Carlo Ancelotti is hoping for. Liverpool mistake was to force the main players to finish in the Premier League so they risked injury. As we can see, Liverpool is very much targeting the Premier League at a time when they are also being pressured to focus on preparing for the Champions League. It will be a big loss if M. Salah cannot play optimally.

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I somehow think that reality is going to have too much spare time in their hand. And Liverpool is going to be in playing mode. I think that might have an effect on the match. Real Madrid is certainly going to play well in the finals as they did in the whole Champions League. Liverpool needs to remember that Real Madrid are very capable of making good comebacks. So Liverpool have to stay alert until the end of the game. Otherwise, they might also get caught off guard.

Both teams will focus on this final match. although Liverpool also has to think about winning in the English Premier League. Liverpool looks to have started to rest some of their players to prepare for the final against Madrid.
Madrid had a better mentality in the final. but Liverpool is also trying to maintain their quality of play in every game before the meeting with Madrid.
still difficult to see a chance of victory for both teams. I'm so unsure which team to bet on.

I am also absolutely unsure because Real Madrid played really well in the Champions League. They overcame all the odds and reached the finals. I don't think anyone gave them any chance to reach the finals of the Champions League. So Liverpool surely needs to be careful and prepare their best team and tactics for the Champions League final if they want to win. The Real Madrid squad is going to be properly rested and that is a luxury that Liverpool is not going to have.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 18, 2022, 10:32:11 AM

Yes, Fabinho's injury is more serious than the two. I also think that the injury will influence his performance, but hopefully not too much so that he can also play optimally although maybe not full time. Fortunately, salah's injury is not too serious although he might be disappointed so much in the match. But, he must be grateful that the injury is not very bad.

Fabinho injury is not so severe that if conditions allow he will play in the next match, but if his condition in the match affects his injury then he should be given a dispensation not to be full time because he needs full recovery treatment.

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Quote from: hahay on May 18, 2022, 09:51:59 AM

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There are three key players who are currently injured and I have said that before, I don't know if they will recover before the Champions League final starts or not. Because if these three players can't play in the final match, then of course it can make Liverpool's performance not optimal. If Liverpool can play all the key players from the start then surely Liverpool will have a chance to win but if there are some key players that can't be played then maybe I will have a little doubt.

Based on this [1] it seems the Fabinho's injury are the most serious compared to Salah and Van Dijk, even the injury is expected to fully recovered on May, 25 but I doubt his performance will be same as before. Players need to train their body consistently to have better result and they can't force their body just in a day since they might got sick after that. Perhaps, this is the reason why Liverpool odds doesn't really huge favorited as before (below 2.00), now it swing to 2.11 though they're still the favorite.

[1] https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fabinho/verletzungen/spieler/225693

If Salah and Van Dijk can recover faster then of course it is still good news for Liverpool, because these three players can be said to be key players because they are in each different line. Defenders, Midfielders and Forwards it is their position and they play an important role in that position. Although there are other players who also have good quality, but it will be great if Klopp has all his players in top condition in the final match.

It is still a long way to go before the Champions League final. Almost 10 days to go and I think that the players will be able to recover in time to play the Champions League final. I think the manager is going to have his main team pretty to go in the Champions League final but I wonder if the players are going to be 100% fit to play. And we all know that football injuries take a bit of time to heal.

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