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Quote from: Despairo on May 18, 2022, 08:12:38 AM

Fabinho's injury are the most serious compared to Salah and Van Dijk, even the injury is expected to fully recovered on May, 25 but I doubt his performance will be same as before.

Yes, Fabinho's injury is more serious than the two. I also think that the injury will influence his performance, but hopefully not too much so that he can also play optimally although maybe not full time. Fortunately, salah's injury is not too serious although he might be disappointed so much in the match. But, he must be grateful that the injury is not very bad.

Quote from: reagansimms on May 18, 2022, 10:00:03 AM

Liverpool's schedule is a little denser than Real Madrid. After undergoing the FA Cup Final match with Chelsea, Liverpool immediately prepared players for matches in the Premier League.

Yes, real Madrid seems not to have serious matches moreover in La Liga, real Madrid has been the winner and brings the trophy home although they lose in some matches remaining. that is why they don't need to always put their main players to the match. this is different enough with the codnitio in Liverpool.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on May 18, 2022, 10:08:06 AM

Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on May 18, 2022, 09:46:35 AM

Karim Benzema contributed greatly to bringing Real Madrid to the UCL final this season, maybe if he is able to score a few more goals in the final and bring Real Madrid to the championship it will end the season perfectly for Benzema, I really hope it will be able to do Kari Benzema in the final .
yes, it's true that having beaten PSG, Chelsea and also Man City made me very sure that Real Madrid will win the UCL and it's very fitting, after what they went through, they deserve to be champions this season.
they are the team with the winning mentality, they are the team with the most UCL trophies. I have no doubts about them in this final, with no intention of underestimating Liverpool.

Indeed, you should not underestimate Liverpool with all the ability and greatness this season in all competitions. Liverpool reached the same final as Real Madrid, they also have the same chances as Real Madrid but about the champions then it will only depend on how well they play in the match.

Liverpool don't depend on anyone in particular like Real Madrid with Benzema, but Liverpool are a team that has already secured two titles this season ^{[FA Cup EFL Cup]} because they are a team that is ready with a winning mentality this season. I know Real Madrid are the best in Champions League history, they have secured 13 titles during this competition but this season Liverpool may not let them secure their 14th title easily. If Real Madrid can do it, so can Liverpool.

Honestly, I was never a fan of Real Madrid but this time I want Real Madrid to lift the Champions League trophy just because of Benzema. He really played his heart out. But this is obviously not going to be easy for Real Madrid because their opponent is really strong. But Real Madrid did beat Manchester City so I think Liverpool should not be that much of a problem. But I start questioning myself when I realize that the final is not going to be two leg. Real Madrid needs to defend well and with the defender that they have, I find it really hard to trust them.

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And don't underestimate Karim Benzema.
Recall he scored two goals against Liverpool in the finals 2017 !?
Lol i laugh at who thinks Benzema will be trapped from scoring, this is he's season as he will win the champions league and ballon d'or!

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on May 18, 2022, 09:46:35 AM

Karim Benzema contributed greatly to bringing Real Madrid to the UCL final this season, maybe if he is able to score a few more goals in the final and bring Real Madrid to the championship it will end the season perfectly for Benzema, I really hope it will be able to do Kari Benzema in the final .
yes, it's true that having beaten PSG, Chelsea and also Man City made me very sure that Real Madrid will win the UCL and it's very fitting, after what they went through, they deserve to be champions this season.
they are the team with the winning mentality, they are the team with the most UCL trophies. I have no doubts about them in this final, with no intention of underestimating Liverpool.

Indeed, you should not underestimate Liverpool with all the ability and greatness this season in all competitions. Liverpool reached the same final as Real Madrid, they also have the same chances as Real Madrid but about the champions then it will only depend on how well they play in the match.

Liverpool don't depend on anyone in particular like Real Madrid with Benzema, but Liverpool are a team that has already secured two titles this season ^{[FA Cup EFL Cup]} because they are a team that is ready with a winning mentality this season. I know Real Madrid are the best in Champions League history, they have secured 13 titles during this competition but this season Liverpool may not let them secure their 14th title easily. If Real Madrid can do it, so can Liverpool.

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Quote from: babo on May 18, 2022, 08:58:32 AM

Quote from: visionE2 on May 18, 2022, 02:28:40 AM

Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

exactly
even if on paper, as the bookmakers say, Liverpool are much stronger
but he is less rested (mentally and physically) and does not have the winning mentality like that of Real Madrid

I bet on Real Madrid

Liverpool's schedule is a little denser than Real Madrid. After undergoing the FA Cup Final match with Chelsea, Liverpool immediately prepared players for matches in the Premier League. Liverpool ended the game with Southampton perfectly despite fielding a player who often warmed the bench.
After seeing Liverpool last match with Southampton, Klopp is very serious about facing Real Madrid. The core players are intentionally reserved to get hours of rest so that their stamina is recovered in the final match. Klopp does not want to lose the Champions League trophy for the second time from Real Madrid, because in the 2018 final Liverpool failed to lift the trophy after being knocked out by Real Madrid.

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@Hahay I don't agree with Salah, Van Dirk can be as you've said , Fabinho also.
I think Liverpool is a better team without Salah. But will be a positive onw for the team if they can come back fit before the finals.
Real Madrid deserves the Champions League, as they have faced the tougher side's leading to the finals.

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Quote from: hichamito37 on May 18, 2022, 09:44:22 AM

I somehow think that reality is going to have too much spare time in their hand. And Liverpool is going to be in playing mode. I think that might have an effect on the match. Real Madrid is certainly going to play well in the finals as they did in the whole Champions League. Liverpool needs to remember that Real Madrid are very capable of making good comebacks. So Liverpool have to stay alert until the end of the game. Otherwise, they might also get caught off guard.

Both teams will focus on this final match. although Liverpool also has to think about winning in the English Premier League. Liverpool looks to have started to rest some of their players to prepare for the final against Madrid.
Madrid had a better mentality in the final. but Liverpool is also trying to maintain their quality of play in every game before the meeting with Madrid.
still difficult to see a chance of victory for both teams. I'm so unsure which team to bet on.

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Quote from: Despairo on May 18, 2022, 08:12:38 AM

Quote from: hahay on May 18, 2022, 01:07:47 AM

There are three key players who are currently injured and I have said that before, I don't know if they will recover before the Champions League final starts or not. Because if these three players can't play in the final match, then of course it can make Liverpool's performance not optimal. If Liverpool can play all the key players from the start then surely Liverpool will have a chance to win but if there are some key players that can't be played then maybe I will have a little doubt.

Based on this [1] it seems the Fabinho's injury are the most serious compared to Salah and Van Dijk, even the injury is expected to fully recovered on May, 25 but I doubt his performance will be same as before. Players need to train their body consistently to have better result and they can't force their body just in a day since they might got sick after that. Perhaps, this is the reason why Liverpool odds doesn't really huge favorited as before (below 2.00), now it swing to 2.11 though they're still the favorite.

[1] https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fabinho/verletzungen/spieler/225693

If Salah and Van Dijk can recover faster then of course it is still good news for Liverpool, because these three players can be said to be key players because they are in each different line. Defenders, Midfielders and Forwards it is their position and they play an important role in that position. Although there are other players who also have good quality, but it will be great if Klopp has all his players in top condition in the final match.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on May 18, 2022, 09:15:47 AM

I agree with you, Real Madrid is a team with a winning mentality, they proved that when they beat PSG and also Man City. Real Madrid have been superior this season. not so underdog but they proved extraordinary, even what they did in the semifinal against man City beyond the expectations of many people.
Liverpool have also played very well this season, but their schedule is very tight, physically and mentally Real Madrid will excel. I will also place the same bet as you, on Real Madrid's victory.

Only if you look at the fact that Real Madrid beat PSG and Manchester City on the way to the final, it already says that they deserve the Champions League Cup. I also like Liverpool as a team, but in this match I will give my preference to Real Madrid. And it would be nice if Benzema could score a couple of goals in the final, he had a great season anyway, he can be said to have led Real Madrid to the final.

Karim Benzema contributed greatly to bringing Real Madrid to the UCL final this season, maybe if he is able to score a few more goals in the final and bring Real Madrid to the championship it will end the season perfectly for Benzema, I really hope it will be able to do Kari Benzema in the final .
yes, it's true that having beaten PSG, Chelsea and also Man City made me very sure that Real Madrid will win the UCL and it's very fitting, after what they went through, they deserve to be champions this season.
they are the team with the winning mentality, they are the team with the most UCL trophies. I have no doubts about them in this final, with no intention of underestimating Liverpool.

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Quote from: Sterbens on May 18, 2022, 09:34:19 AM

Quote from: babo on May 18, 2022, 08:58:32 AM

Quote from: visionE2 on May 18, 2022, 02:28:40 AM

Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

exactly
even if on paper, as the bookmakers say, Liverpool are much stronger
but he is less rested (mentally and physically) and does not have the winning mentality like that of Real Madrid

I bet on Real Madrid

I think mental and physical problems are definitely hard to measure on our scale. I'm sure we will be presented with a very fierce and entertaining game. Regardless of who will win later, of course, everyone expects the winner to be someone who stands with all the qualities he has. The final this time is more eagerly awaited, not only by the bookmakers, but all levels of society even without betting where I have provided a large area to watch together.

I somehow think that reality is going to have too much spare time in their hand. And Liverpool is going to be in playing mode. I think that might have an effect on the match. Real Madrid is certainly going to play well in the finals as they did in the whole Champions League. Liverpool needs to remember that Real Madrid are very capable of making good comebacks. So Liverpool have to stay alert until the end of the game. Otherwise, they might also get caught off guard.

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Quote from: babo on May 18, 2022, 08:58:32 AM

Quote from: visionE2 on May 18, 2022, 02:28:40 AM

Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

exactly
even if on paper, as the bookmakers say, Liverpool are much stronger
but he is less rested (mentally and physically) and does not have the winning mentality like that of Real Madrid

I bet on Real Madrid

I think mental and physical problems are definitely hard to measure on our scale. I'm sure we will be presented with a very fierce and entertaining game. Regardless of who will win later, of course, everyone expects the winner to be someone who stands with all the qualities he has. The final this time is more eagerly awaited, not only by the bookmakers, but all levels of society even without betting where I have provided a large area to watch together.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on May 18, 2022, 09:15:47 AM

I agree with you, Real Madrid is a team with a winning mentality, they proved that when they beat PSG and also Man City. Real Madrid have been superior this season. not so underdog but they proved extraordinary, even what they did in the semifinal against man City beyond the expectations of many people.
Liverpool have also played very well this season, but their schedule is very tight, physically and mentally Real Madrid will excel. I will also place the same bet as you, on Real Madrid's victory.

Only if you look at the fact that Real Madrid beat PSG and Manchester City on the way to the final, it already says that they deserve the Champions League Cup. I also like Liverpool as a team, but in this match I will give my preference to Real Madrid. And it would be nice if Benzema could score a couple of goals in the final, he had a great season anyway, he can be said to have led Real Madrid to the final.

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Quote from: babo on May 18, 2022, 08:58:32 AM

Quote from: visionE2 on May 18, 2022, 02:28:40 AM

Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

exactly
even if on paper, as the bookmakers say, Liverpool are much stronger
but he is less rested (mentally and physically) and does not have the winning mentality like that of Real Madrid

I bet on Real Madrid

I agree with you, Real Madrid is a team with a winning mentality, they proved that when they beat PSG and also Man City. Real Madrid have been superior this season. not so underdog but they proved extraordinary, even what they did in the semifinal against man City beyond the expectations of many people.
Liverpool have also played very well this season, but their schedule is very tight, physically and mentally Real Madrid will excel. I will also place the same bet as you, on Real Madrid's victory.

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Quote from: visionE2 on May 18, 2022, 02:28:40 AM

Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

exactly
even if on paper, as the bookmakers say, Liverpool are much stronger
but he is less rested (mentally and physically) and does not have the winning mentality like that of Real Madrid

I bet on Real Madrid

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Quote from: hahay on May 18, 2022, 01:07:47 AM

There are three key players who are currently injured and I have said that before, I don't know if they will recover before the Champions League final starts or not. Because if these three players can't play in the final match, then of course it can make Liverpool's performance not optimal. If Liverpool can play all the key players from the start then surely Liverpool will have a chance to win but if there are some key players that can't be played then maybe I will have a little doubt.

Based on this [1] it seems the Fabinho's injury are the most serious compared to Salah and Van Dijk, even the injury is expected to fully recovered on May, 25 but I doubt his performance will be same as before. Players need to train their body consistently to have better result and they can't force their body just in a day since they might got sick after that. Perhaps, this is the reason why Liverpool odds doesn't really huge favorited as before (below 2.00), now it swing to 2.11 though they're still the favorite.

[1] https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fabinho/verletzungen/spieler/225693

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This signal will be very dangerous for Liverpool, as if Real Madrid confirmed that they are the kings of the Champions League, Manchester City played very well in the first half, making it difficult for Real Madrid to penetrate their goal, but in the second half Real Madrid played a little open, until the end. second half Real Madrid can score two goals in a very short time, Liverpool need to be vigilant later in the final, otherwise they want to experience the same problem as Manchester City.
Congratulations to Real Madrid fans and hope to win

You have to realize that Real Madrid are the kings of the Champions League so far and they are very close to the title again after beating Manchester City in the second leg. Liverpool of course have to be wary of Real Madrid with its huge status in the Champions League, but if you watch their match then you are sure Liverpool will easily break into Real Madrid's goal whose defense is not as good as expected.

Real Madrid were just lucky to score 2 goals during the second half injury time because overall they didn't have many chances to score during the 90 minutes. Manchester City failed the final in a very disappointing way, and they should mark it as a history of shame.

How confidently the defeat of Manchester City yesterday was only a matter of luck, if you see the history of Real Madrid they have done this three times in a different season, it is undeniable that luck is in Real Madrid, but we also need to see that Ancelotti is a senior coach In the Champions League, I think it's not just a matter of luck, but Staregi and the way the coach in making decisions in the final minutes is also very influential, which needs to be done only to improve the defense, the rest of Real Madrid will get closer to the champions this season

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Quote from: visionE2 on May 18, 2022, 02:28:40 AM

Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

On their way too this level and finals, i think, Chelsea had a edge to move but messed up hugely.
They wanted two goals, and then they had three in total and Thomas Tuchel couldn't turn to a defensive side.
Poor decision making comes from him at times and that affects Chelsea team.
They should have moved forward ahhead of Madrid but Champions remains Champions! Can they repeat that this time around ?

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Real madrid's journey from the last 16 to the final is still unbelievable and the best back to back comebacks against tough opponents like PSG, Chelsea and City. On the other hand, when will Liverpool lose to Madrid, right?
Liverpool has lost twice in meetings and Madrid has been fasting for three years with the UCL title, Real Madid has a winning mentality and definitely has big ambitions to win the UCL this year.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on May 17, 2022, 11:51:05 PM

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I just can't wait to se Liverpool vs Real Madrid UCL final match this season? Who will get advantage in Paris? What do you thik, who will win UCL final this season? My prediction goes to Liverpool. Liverpool very well played overall this season and UCL also.Liverpool attacking site is very dangerous and their goal Keeper Allison becker is most talented Keeper right now.On other hand you looked Real Madrid last match Real Madrid defender's made many mistake,I Think they need to more improve this site.

Liverpool has a good performance in this tournament that made me to predicted for their favour because they know how to achieve victory from Real Madrid without allow them to achieve any goal from the match. Liverpool players has really demonstrated well in their past matches that made their fans to believe that this UCL title belong to Liverpool team because they have what it takes to defeat Real 2-0 to embrace the title for the season. Liverpool coach will do everything possible to make sure mistakes will not happen on final day because all their talented players are fully ready to achieve victory from the match.

There are three key players who are currently injured and I have said that before, I don't know if they will recover before the Champions League final starts or not. Because if these three players can't play in the final match, then of course it can make Liverpool's performance not optimal. If Liverpool can play all the key players from the start then surely Liverpool will have a chance to win but if there are some key players that can't be played then maybe I will have a little doubt.

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I just can't wait to se Liverpool vs Real Madrid UCL final match this season? Who will get advantage in Paris? What do you thik, who will win UCL final this season? My prediction goes to Liverpool. Liverpool very well played overall this season and UCL also.Liverpool attacking site is very dangerous and their goal Keeper Allison becker is most talented Keeper right now.On other hand you looked Real Madrid last match Real Madrid defender's made many mistake,I Think they need to more improve this site.

Liverpool has a good performance in this tournament that made me to predicted for their favour because they know how to achieve victory from Real Madrid without allow them to achieve any goal from the match. Liverpool players has really demonstrated well in their past matches that made their fans to believe that this UCL title belong to Liverpool team because they have what it takes to defeat Real 2-0 to embrace the title for the season. Liverpool coach will do everything possible to make sure mistakes will not happen on final day because all their talented players are fully ready to achieve victory from the match.

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