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Quote from: bct_ail on October 27, 2020, 07:31:05 AM

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Regarding the bets - I'll just go with a Real victory today. The odds are over 2.05, which is really high. Real has to bounce after that shocking display against Shakhtar and Monchengladbach isn't really that good.

Madrid must win. They have already lost their match against Shakhtar Donetsk. If they also lose against Monchengladbach, it will be difficult for the round of sixteen.
I don't think Monchengladbach will win either. But maybe a draw? They didn't play so badly against Milan.

You gotta consider that the squad deployed by Real mid week vs Shaktar was different as Zidane was preparing for a more important fixture in the El Classico. With that out of the way, I think Zidane is gonna deploy a stronger line and would prolly win by two goals.

I already got Real to win at 1.95 and Barca draw no bet at 1.86 vs Juve. I don't think Ronaldo is playing. Once that's confirmed, expect that line to drop.

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Will Bayern be Bayern and cover the Spread of +-2.5?

I want to say yes with the way they have been playing or will they slow down and just make it a 2:0 for example.

Any insights?

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Quote from: docdiss on October 27, 2020, 04:14:39 AM

Shakhtar B basically destroyed Real at Santiago Bernabeu so imho those odds are definitely worth a try, Atalanta are rather favorites and odds are really decent, also I think Atletico is not really convincing in terms of scoring goals (apart from 6-1 against Granada) so I suppose draw here is highly possible

Imagine also what happens if Shakhtar A get to play tonight (are they though?),,, they might just smash another team and pass through this group. Atletico, they will go for another draw too IF they score first. But they let in so many goals in their first game they should know better than to not to do that with their style of play.

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didn't get any feedback yesterday for the Shakhtar - Inter match so i went with my initial pick (-1 AHC), odds dropped massively overnight tho (2.51 to 1.98) https://i.ibb.co/PMFDZDm/inter.png

Atletico ML at 1.85 boosted https://i.ibb.co/f1pmr3X/madrid.png
must win match againt the weakest team in the group. I might place a side bet here, "Atletico Win to nil" at 3.x0 odds, worth a shot since they have a good record at home in the CL

Liverpool -2 AHC https://i.ibb.co/qyBM20G/pool.png

Quote from: LTU_btc on October 26, 2020, 07:26:26 PM

Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.

to be fair, Napoli are playing really good football lately so losing at the San Paolo is no surprise, IMO. And Gasperini rotated the squad last weekend, totally a fluke win for Sampdoria. Should be an easy win for the italians tonight, but i'd go with Total goals here, Atalanta have a deadly attack in front, but a crappy defence

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 27, 2020, 06:21:06 AM

Regarding the bets - I'll just go with a Real victory today. The odds are over 2.05, which is really high. Real has to bounce after that shocking display against Shakhtar and Monchengladbach isn't really that good.

Madrid must win. They have already lost their match against Shakhtar Donetsk. If they also lose against Monchengladbach, it will be difficult for the round of sixteen.
I don't think Monchengladbach will win either. But maybe a draw? They didn't play so badly against Milan.

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I'm glad Liverpool's playing today because I probably wouldn't watch any other game. Nothing really interests me, although I expect Atalanta - Ajax to be a high scoring and interesting game.

Regarding the bets - I'll just go with a Real victory today. The odds are over 2.05, which is really high. Real has to bounce after that shocking display against Shakhtar and Monchengladbach isn't really that good.

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Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Bayern Munich
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 Inter Milan
Atalanta 20:00 Ajax
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Red Bull Salzburg
FC Porto 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Liverpool 20:00 FC Midtjylland
M'gladbach 20:00 Real Madrid
Marseille 20:00 Manchester City

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Big games? no one

Key game? M'gladbach - Real Madrid if Real will lose they will almost out from the gruop stage, I mean not out but very high risk of going out with 0 points in 2 games.

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Quote from: babo on October 27, 2020, 03:24:04 AM

it is not very easy to calculate, because we do not know all the contracts and earnings of all the merchandise related to CR7 (which receives a part of it in my opinion)

I tried to search several information about that before, unfortunatelly there no data can be find. (may we can stop this discussion)

Juventus vs Barcelona in my opinion is a club that is currently in a adaptation period, they have advantages and disadvantages that come from their new coach. But, from coaching experience, Koeman has a better strategy than Pirlo, I think in this match, Juventus more difficult to beat Barcelona, Ronaldo reported healed from COVID-19, maybe he can play in this match.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on October 26, 2020, 11:28:34 AM

Juventus vs Barcelona on Wednesday, it is Ronaldo vs Messi again. This should be a really exciting game, I look forward to it.

Even if Ronaldo gets the green light to take part, I have a strong feeling it'll be a boring match.

Quote from: Raflesia on October 26, 2020, 12:40:20 PM

What about Ronaldo? will he play after passing the test results? I don't know whether the test result is positive or not.

I read a couple of news that there's a chance if he gets a negative result on the test ^{[24 hrs prior to the game]}, they might allow him to take part.

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Made couple of bets for today:

Shakhtar x Inter - MY BET

Atalanta x Ajax - MY BET

Atletico x Salzburg - MY BET

Shakhtar B basically destroyed Real at Santiago Bernabeu so imho those odds are definitely worth a try, Atalanta are rather favorites and odds are really decent, also I think Atletico is not really convincing in terms of scoring goals (apart from 6-1 against Granada) so I suppose draw here is highly possible

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 26, 2020, 07:26:26 PM

Haven't made any bets yet, but I have some doubts about one game. Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.
I'm going to back some favorites like Inter, Atletico, maybe Porto. And I will look for goals over in Bayern and Liverpool games.

Ajax odds look VERY nice indeed over 3.8x the problem is I don't actually know how they play, apparently not bad against Liverpool and then winning 13-0 in their local league, but they always feel like Arsenal to me. Plenty of talent but not enough grit to win, you know?

The best bet there is probably BTTS and over 3, and then parlay with something like Porto (who played well and should score a couple). Haven't made my mind up yet however.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on October 26, 2020, 11:28:34 AM

Juventus vs Barcelona on Wednesday, it is Ronaldo vs Messi again. This should be a really exciting game, I look forward to it.

It is not the same as it used to be but it will be still interesting game.
Now those two teams have different philosophy in their playing style. Italian teams play stricter defense while Spanish teams are more like opt to passing game and team game in general.
I think that Messi is going to shine more due to their holistic play style.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on October 26, 2020, 07:56:14 AM

Quote from: masulum on October 26, 2020, 05:25:26 AM

Exactly, just remember Juventus can get $60 Million from Ronaldo jersey it self within 24 hours. After that, Juventus success to get renewal contract with Adidas. I think this is happen because Juventus have CR7 and some star players. Compared with previous season they just get €14.65 million from Jersey sold.

Source: Statista

Profits from jersey selling and other incomes from advertisement contracts with the appearance of Ronaldo are one of reasons why Juventus decided to make a big transfer with Ronaldo 3 seasons ago. $60 millions from jersey selling within 24 hours indeed is a very impressive record.

Do you know any source of stats on total money Juventus have gotten from Ronaldo's jersey since his transfer from Real Madrid to Juventus?

it is not very easy to calculate, because we do not know all the contracts and earnings of all the merchandise related to CR7 (which receives a part of it in my opinion)

the sale of the $ 60m 24h only serves to make it clear that in addition to having a champion in the team, Juventus has made a full-blown marketing and commercial operation, earning MUCH money than they spent for CR7

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 26, 2020, 07:26:26 PM

Haven't made any bets yet, but I have some doubts about one game. Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.
I'm going to back some favorites like Inter, Atletico, maybe Porto. And I will look for goals over in Bayern and Liverpool games.

Will you ignore the fact that ajax won 13-0 against vvv venlo last saturday? They trashed venlo really hard , atalanta must be aware about this and wont underestimate them.
Likely a draw will be fair for both , but i am more to ajax honestly.
The odds doesnt reflected anything to me.
1-2 for ajax , close match like that and the game must be openly both attacking , that is ajax philosophy.

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 26, 2020, 07:54:23 PM

Champions league is back with some good matches, and I am picking one of them early.

Shakhtar Donetsk vs Inter
Shakhtar made big surprise last time in champions league when they won against Real 3:2 with squad full of injuries, but how many times they can repeat that? They never won against Inter in h2h matches so far.
There will be up to 10,000 fan supporters on stadium in Kiev.
Both teams have some missing players, but I will still got for Inter win here and Lukaku to score.

I am going in slightly different direction here. I believe Inter is better team but Shakhtar should not be underestimated and they can score a goal or two in front of their own supporters.

I am going with both to score and x2 @1.9. The odds dropped to 1.85 as soon as I placed the bet. Did not think I was such high roller Grin

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 26, 2020, 07:26:26 PM

Haven't made any bets yet, but I have some doubts about one game. Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.
I'm going to back some favorites like Inter, Atletico, maybe Porto. And I will look for goals over in Bayern and Liverpool games.

Atalanta have some good records when it comes to the champions league, they will draw inspirations from the fact that they were quarter finalists in the previous season. Nevertheless, their Serie A form in recent matches has not been good, you can still go for goals in their match.

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Champions league is back with some good matches, and I am picking one of them early.

Shakhtar Donetsk vs Inter
Shakhtar made big surprise last time in champions league when they won against Real 3:2 with squad full of injuries, but how many times they can repeat that? They never won against Inter in h2h matches so far.
There will be up to 10,000 fan supporters on stadium in Kiev.
Both teams have some missing players, but I will still got for Inter win here and Lukaku to score.

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Haven't made any bets yet, but I have some doubts about one game. Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.
I'm going to back some favorites like Inter, Atletico, maybe Porto. And I will look for goals over in Bayern and Liverpool games.

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Quote from: masulum on October 26, 2020, 05:25:26 AM

Exactly, just remember Juventus can get $60 Million from Ronaldo jersey it self within 24 hours. After that, Juventus success to get renewal contract with Adidas. I think this is happen because Juventus have CR7 and some star players. Compared with previous season they just get €14.65 million from Jersey sold.

Source: Statista

a very long TDLR for this subject but the short version is:

Ronaldo cost for Juventus is around 15/20m€/year (like a mediocre player) and he will leave a +40m€ from the deal with sponsors when he will want to leave the club.

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There are couple more games that could make that bet even higher and would also not look too scary neither, for example if you did add Liverpool and city which looks like more guaranteed than any other game on that slip, I would say the odds would skyrocket a lot and you are getting that huge increase thanks to very obvious games unless something totally unexpected happens, Liverpool and city should be winning very very easily.

There is also Bayern munich, they are still as amazing as it gets and they look like they are going to destroy any team right now, so I would say that would be a great addition as well, I am not going into games on later date, PSG vs Basaksehir type of games are looking very obvious as well but they are day later so you may not want to wait for them depending on your patience.

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