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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 06, 2023, 08:01:39 AM

Fiorentina have not lifted a trophy in a very long time, the same thing with Westhampton. Fiorentina just lost one opportunity to win a finals in the Coppa itallia to Inter Milan, this conference league is like a second chance for Fiorentina after disappointing their fans before, they will be trying to avoid doing it twice.

If Westhampton win this competition, it will be very celebrated too, they have been struggling to try to win something, this is a chance for them too since the last competition they won in 1980 which was an FA cup title, where they played against Arsenal and won by just one goal.

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. Seriously, both teams aren't usual title contenders in their leagues and cups, so, Conference league is very rare chance for trophy them. And for both teams it's final chance to get ticket to next season UEFA cups.
I think it's completely 50/50 game, odds also says it. Don't know how big factor it can be, but West Ham can be more fresh as they didn't had game last weekend.

As they are used to the tough matches of the Premier League, I think West Ham, which can overcome the pressure of this match more easily, is the side that is close to winning. The winner will be determined in the evening, but now they are the last hope for both teams to go to the European cups. In order not to exhaust these hopes, they will have to play smartly in the final. Fiorentina are a strong team and they certainly have a chance against West Ham.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 06, 2023, 08:01:39 AM

Fiorentina have not lifted a trophy in a very long time, the same thing with Westhampton. Fiorentina just lost one opportunity to win a finals in the Coppa itallia to Inter Milan, this conference league is like a second chance for Fiorentina after disappointing their fans before, they will be trying to avoid doing it twice.

If Westhampton win this competition, it will be very celebrated too, they have been struggling to try to win something, this is a chance for them too since the last competition they won in 1980 which was an FA cup title, where they played against Arsenal and won by just one goal.

https://lastwonatrophy.co.uk/west-ham/

Westhampton? Is that mixture of West Ham and Wolverhampton? Cheesy

. Seriously, both teams aren't usual title contenders in their leagues and cups, so, Conference league is very rare chance for trophy them. And for both teams it's final chance to get ticket to next season UEFA cups.
I think it's completely 50/50 game, odds also says it. Don't know how big factor it can be, but West Ham can be more fresh as they didn't had game last weekend.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 06, 2023, 07:29:58 AM

In the English Premier League, West Ham United did not perform very well, even they were in the middle and lower ranks this season, but in the UEFA Conference League they were able to play quite well and survive until the final.
Maybe most fans and football observers say that Fiorentina will win the final easily, but I think otherwise and fully support West Ham United's victory in the final later.
Maybe in the prestigious Big League they are behind but for the Conference League I believe West Ham United can play quite well and try hard to get this title.

Fiorentina have not lifted a trophy in a very long time, the same thing with Westhampton. Fiorentina just lost one opportunity to win a finals in the Coppa itallia to Inter Milan, this conference league is like a second chance for Fiorentina after disappointing their fans before, they will be trying to avoid doing it twice.

If Westhampton win this competition, it will be very celebrated too, they have been struggling to try to win something, this is a chance for them too since the last competition they won in 1980 which was an FA cup title, where they played against Arsenal and won by just one goal.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 06, 2023, 07:08:58 AM

Obviously, both sides have a good chance of winning and since both teams have not had much success in the league, any win here will please the fans of both teams.Although I see Fiorentina one step ahead, it is obvious that west ham will not give up the game easily. Fiorentina have been performing very well lately and West ham have struggled to stay in the league, but they have managed to stay in the league.I think Fiorentina will start the game fast and finish the first half ahead.

In the English Premier League, West Ham United did not perform very well, even they were in the middle and lower ranks this season, but in the UEFA Conference League they were able to play quite well and survive until the final.
Maybe most fans and football observers say that Fiorentina will win the final easily, but I think otherwise and fully support West Ham United's victory in the final later.
Maybe in the prestigious Big League they are behind but for the Conference League I believe West Ham United can play quite well and try hard to get this title.

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Obviously, both sides have a good chance of winning and since both teams have not had much success in the league, any win here will please the fans of both teams.Although I see Fiorentina one step ahead, it is obvious that west ham will not give up the game easily. Fiorentina have been performing very well lately and West ham have struggled to stay in the league, but they have managed to stay in the league.I think Fiorentina will start the game fast and finish the first half ahead.

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back to this topic, Final is tomorrow, but close enough
Fiorentina finished season with a win over Sassuolo, and now both teams are focused on final, first between English and Italian clubs, with CL afterwards

odds are not favoring any team, and indeed final can go on both sides, but should not be goalless
Fiorentina had luck to kick-out Basel in previous round, and since Basel was my favorite, I will probably looking to West Ham win, if anything due to Moyes being their coach

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Quote from: slaman29 on June 01, 2023, 11:36:46 PM

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West Ham consider themselves favorites, but losing to a crap Leicester also doesn't really boost anyone's confidence.

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this will be an impressive match between the representatives of the Italian league and the English league and I admit that both of them want to win this match even though West Ham lost against Leicester it is only because the match is at home to Leicester which gives more confidence and Leicester can beat West Ham .
but you can't compare West Ham's performance in the English league with the conference league because it's very different and a little bit of confidence from my predictions it looks like West Ham will be superior to Fiorentina.

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Now that Roma failed and became the miserable losers hehe (ok ok I know it was just Mourinho who even went to confront the referee in parking lot but anyway) it's soon time to see if Fiorentina will be able to get Italy's name on a European Cup, before Inter gets their chance.

West Ham consider themselves favorites, but losing to a crap Leicester also doesn't really boost anyone's confidence.

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Quote from: slaman29 on May 20, 2023, 06:18:29 AM

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No problem as you say should still be a good final to watch. I believe Calcio renaissance is really happening. Time to start watching Serie A again next season!

agree, they had five teams from twelve in semi-finals, and three passed into finals
can't be just luck in the draw, as it seemed for CL, they had three teams in QF, obviously some had to play in-between

nevertheless, Inter is a long shot for title, but Rome and Fiorentina have their chances, and I would probably back at least Rome, since Mo is a cup specialist, and he would like to join Conference league to Europa league, and maybe to have CL next season, who knows

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 19, 2023, 03:08:02 PM

Basel gaved up on their league trying to focus on europe but they just didnt have luck in the second half and extra time. Fiorentina overall was much better in this match. West Ham is a favorite for me in the final but it will be close between these two teams for sure

Reaching the final for Basel would have been a significant result, but in the end Fiorentina came out stronger, I don't know if Basel have given up their league, they are too far from the leaders, and it looks like they will be left without euro cups next season. Probably for me, West Ham are also favorites in this match, the match will be held in Prague at the Fortuna Arena stadium, I don’t know for which of the teams this stadium will be more comfortable and to whom it will bring good luck, let the strongest win. )

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Quote from: casperBGD on May 19, 2023, 05:55:58 AM

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But as you say the expected semifinalists went through and it is Italy versus England in Conference, just like in Champions League!

shame for Basel, they deserved spot in finals, but could not make it till the end
nevertheless, Viola will play West Ham, should be a proper final after all

Italians vs England in two competitions, and Italians vs Spaniards in third, is this Calcio renaissance or what
nevertheless, they are underdogs in all three finals, maybe that could be a catch to play on them

They made me happy in the end, what a big win I got from their first leg victory. If I would be able to watch live even I might have placed a bet live when they went behind, who knows, same as West Ham.

No problem as you say should still be a good final to watch. I believe Calcio renaissance is really happening. Time to start watching Serie A again next season!

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Quote from: Slow death on May 18, 2023, 06:28:34 PM

Well, Fiorentina was very lucky in this game, without a doubt that Fiorentina can get good results when they make an effort, but I think that Basel was just unlucky, it's not because they are inferior to Fiorentina that they stayed, they just weren't lucky in this game. so we will see Fiorentina playing against West Ham in the final, in my opinion in this scenario I see Fiorentina being champions, if Fiorentina is playing well like today then they will be champions, but if they don't play well then West Ham has a good defense in these European games you can come out with victory

Fiorentina and West Ham were considered the most likely finalists for the Conference League based on their squad strength. But in football, the actual path to the final must always be completed. It's a different story for Inter and Roma, who perhaps weren't favored by many,
facing teams that were seemingly stronger on paper. But you always have to fight for it on the field. How many teams will participate in European competitions next season? Who knows. I hope eight Italian teams will make it.

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Quote from: slaman29 on May 19, 2023, 05:42:32 AM

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But as you say the expected semifinalists went through and it is Italy versus England in Conference, just like in Champions League!

shame for Basel, they deserved spot in finals, but could not make it till the end
nevertheless, Viola will play West Ham, should be a proper final after all

Italians vs England in two competitions, and Italians vs Spaniards in third, is this Calcio renaissance or what
nevertheless, they are underdogs in all three finals, maybe that could be a catch to play on them

Basel gaved up on their league trying to focus on europe but they just didnt have luck in the second half and extra time. Fiorentina overall was much better in this match. West Ham is a favorite for me in the final but it will be close between these two teams for sure

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Quote from: Slow death on May 18, 2023, 06:28:34 PM

as expected west ham won in the first leg and won again in the second leg, they were under a lot of pressure in this game and it's even unbelievable that they only had 30% of ball possession while AZ had 70% but couldn't score a goal managed to move on to another phase, on the contrary they had the misfortune of seeing a goal from west ham at 90 + 4 minutes, without a doubt it was a big bucket of cold water thrown on the heads of the AZ players when they conceded the goal, all their efforts were destroyed , but just like European competitions, most of the time the team with the most luck and strategy wins and not the best team

Well, Fiorentina was very lucky in this game, without a doubt that Fiorentina can get good results when they make an effort, but I think that Basel was just unlucky, it's not because they are inferior to Fiorentina that they stayed, they just weren't lucky in this game. so we will see Fiorentina playing against West Ham in the final, in my opinion in this scenario I see Fiorentina being champions, if Fiorentina is playing well like today then they will be champions, but if they don't play well then West Ham has a good defense in these European games you can come out with victory

I think it is going to be West Ham win at the end, Fiorentina is a good team but West ham looks much better and dominating a lot easier as well. Lets see how it will end, it will be fun to watch, all three are looking fun to watch. I think they did a great thing by adding this league, for the past 2 years we are getting extra games to watch and I feel like that's a great idea, not many people would insist on something like this and they did and this improved the brand value of it as well.

At first I assumed I would not care because it would be only low level teams that would play here, but since last years semi finals I try to watch all of it because it looks like we are watching something entertaining anyway, not at UCL or Europa level, but still close competition between clubs.

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Quote from: slaman29 on May 19, 2023, 05:42:32 AM

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But as you say the expected semifinalists went through and it is Italy versus England in Conference, just like in Champions League!

shame for Basel, they deserved spot in finals, but could not make it till the end
nevertheless, Viola will play West Ham, should be a proper final after all

Italians vs England in two competitions, and Italians vs Spaniards in third, is this Calcio renaissance or what
nevertheless, they are underdogs in all three finals, maybe that could be a catch to play on them

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 18, 2023, 04:43:51 PM

Fiorentina just shocked Basel in the 129th minute . Insane Barak from the bench scored a goal that killed all hopes for Basels first ever final. As expected we will have the final between Fiorentina and West Ham and will be intrested to see what will happen. West Ham is the favorite for me in that duel

It wasn't a shock if they were the favorites tho right?

But as you say the expected semifinalists went through and it is Italy versus England in Conference, just like in Champions League!

Italians must be feeling so good now, to have 1 representative in all the major cup finals!

Time to make bets on Inter, Fiorentina plus Roma, I am sure it is something like 30x!

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as expected west ham won in the first leg and won again in the second leg, they were under a lot of pressure in this game and it's even unbelievable that they only had 30% of ball possession while AZ had 70% but couldn't score a goal managed to move on to another phase, on the contrary they had the misfortune of seeing a goal from west ham at 90 + 4 minutes, without a doubt it was a big bucket of cold water thrown on the heads of the AZ players when they conceded the goal, all their efforts were destroyed , but just like European competitions, most of the time the team with the most luck and strategy wins and not the best team

Well, Fiorentina was very lucky in this game, without a doubt that Fiorentina can get good results when they make an effort, but I think that Basel was just unlucky, it's not because they are inferior to Fiorentina that they stayed, they just weren't lucky in this game. so we will see Fiorentina playing against West Ham in the final, in my opinion in this scenario I see Fiorentina being champions, if Fiorentina is playing well like today then they will be champions, but if they don't play well then West Ham has a good defense in these European games you can come out with victory

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as expected West Ham won the game, but it was not an easy game for West Ham who during the game were losing until the 67th minute when they were lucky enough to benefit from a penalty and with that the game was tied, but West Ham got lucky again in the 5th minute when they scored the second goal and with that they just needed to manage the result well until the end of the game, a fact and this is not a result that guarantees West Ham in the second leg, they were the first to concede a goal and were lucky enough to benefit from a penalty kick i.e. the opponent is strong, it should not be underestimated because they still have a chance of winning and moving on to the final

the game that, in a way, left us surprised with the result, the game between fiontentina against baseeia, fiorentina scored first, they were supposed to be able to defend the result well and leave this game with a victory, but what we saw was basel scoring a goal tie and to make matters worse, fiorentina had the misfortune of conceding a goal in the 92 + 2 minutes, it was too late for fiorentia to react, with this defeat i very much doubt that fiorentina will be able to win in the second leg, i see baseia in the final, they play better than Fiorentina, and it's a shame that Fiorentina is falling back from performance

David Moyes deserves all the praises he's currently getting from both the fans and the media for his outstanding job with his West Ham team. West Ham has been at the top of their game in the UEFA Conference League this season despite the all the stress that comes with traveling to other far distant European nations to play games coupled with the congested domestic league fixtures.
With the incredible results they've achieved so far, West might win the competition and return home with an European trophy

No doubt the arrival of David Moyes has brought so many changes to the West Ham team even though they have not really done so well in the English Premier League this season but they have had an outstanding victories in the conference league even as they are heading to the finals after defeating AZ Alkmaar home and away with an aggregate of 1:3. To be honest West Ham has really been so good through out their outting in the conference league and winning the trophy wouldn't be a surprise to me because they have what it takes to bring the trophy home and it's going to be a wonderful experience if they win the trophy regardless of their position in the premier league this season. The travels only affected their performance in the league but during the European outing they have enjoyed a run of wins regardless of their tight match schedule.

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 18, 2023, 04:43:51 PM

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Fiorentina just shocked Basel in the 129th minute . Insane Barak from the bench scored a goal that killed all hopes for Basels first ever final. As expected we will have the final between Fiorentina and West Ham and will be intrested to see what will happen. West Ham is the favorite for me in that duel

It's going to be an interesting final between these two, West Ham and Fiorentina.
West Ham is having a hard time in the league, but it turns their league form is not reciprocated in the conference league. They have been solid in every match they've layer in the conference league. It's almost like the sacrificed the premier league for the conference league. I can't explain why they are struggling in the league but they shouldn't be with the kind of squad and spirits they've got.
They were also good in the Europa league last season before they where knocked out by Frankfurt I think. This season they've made it all the way to the final of the conference league. That's impressive.

Fiorentina too are a ferocious team. They play well and can hurt their opponents at unexpected times, we saw that today with the late goal they scored against Basel. I didn't expect Fiorentina to win Basel away from home after losing to them at home. But they fought hard and managed to take the game to extra time and sunk the heart of all of Basel in the dyinginutes of the game. Fiorentina even had another last minute chance from Jovic but it hit the bar. An impressive performance from them.

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I followed casperBGD without remembering where I saw it, but now I read this page and I see where I remember about Basel.

This was something I forgot to share last time.

congrats man, it was a nice win
Basel is my favorite as well, and they are now back even with Fiorentina at home, so have an advantage in total

other match is close, no goals so far, AZ is a better team, but that could maybe just due to fact that they need to score
as I remember, both matches last week came in overturn, who scored first, lost the match, so maybe AZ is waiting for West Ham to score, to overturn it

Fiorentina just shocked Basel in the 129th minute . Insane Barak from the bench scored a goal that killed all hopes for Basels first ever final. As expected we will have the final between Fiorentina and West Ham and will be intrested to see what will happen. West Ham is the favorite for me in that duel

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