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Quote from: Strongkored on June 20, 2021, 08:39:04 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2021, 07:41:09 AM

For today, I guess I will go for the Italy vs Wales match. Even if Wales lose the match by a small margin and Switzerland win their match against Turkey, Wales will end up at no.2 position (because they have a better goal difference).

In this group, it seems that there will be no changes in the standings, which country will advance to the next and which country will be eliminated.
Contrast to group B, where the competition is still quite interesting to follow because there are two countries besides Belgium that still have a chance to advance for round 16.

Not only in group B, which still has tough competition, because in other groups it looks the same and even in group D, E and F look more interesting to look forward to. But regarding today's match and it's about group A, then I think it's also true that there will be no change in position there and only Turkey if they win then Turkey shifts Switzerland in 3rd position. But yes, regarding the Italy - Wales match I think the target is no longer to shifted positions but it looks like Wales have a goal to score against Italy and as such, Italy's clean sheet was broken by Wales, although I know it won't be easy.

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Quote from: acquafredda on June 20, 2021, 04:34:54 AM

The real bet today is about Italy's clean sheet. I think my fellow Italians will be able to make it and I expect that those guys who still have not played will do their best to make another good impression to Mancini. For him, then, it will be a real challenge to select the best ones.
So, Italy should also bring home the last 3 points of the round.
Sorry Welsh friends, but that is going to be like that.

the bet Italy's clean sheet is very risky , because if they score 3 goal then defence can give up , but italy will win the match for sure it is good bet the odd about 1.5 or italy or match nul is good bet too the odd small 1.15 or less in my opinion italy will end in the first place by 9 points , 3 match win in a row

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 20, 2021, 08:39:04 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2021, 07:41:09 AM

For today, I guess I will go for the Italy vs Wales match. Even if Wales lose the match by a small margin and Switzerland win their match against Turkey, Wales will end up at no.2 position (because they have a better goal difference).

In this group, it seems that there will be no changes in the standings, which country will advance to the next and which country will be eliminated.
Contrast to group B, where the competition is still quite interesting to follow because there are two countries besides Belgium that still have a chance to advance for round 16.

The schedule is still quite complicated. This way you can become 3rd in a group, and then it is not yet certain who you will play against because that again has to do with the circumstances in the rounds later, you would not be allowed to play against someone from your own group before you reach the final would reach. The Netherlands became first, and could easily play against the number 3 from the group of France. Those are fine eighth finals - the Netherlands-Germany for example. Then you win the group, and you get such a draw.

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Quote from: Mimi Peri Rapunchelle on June 20, 2021, 07:49:03 AM

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Quote from: acquafredda on June 20, 2021, 04:34:54 AM

The real bet today is about Italy's clean sheet. I think my fellow Italians will be able to make it and I expect that those guys who still have not played will do their best to make another good impression to Mancini. For him, then, it will be a real challenge to select the best ones.
So, Italy should also bring home the last 3 points of the round.
Sorry Welsh friends, but that is going to be like that.

I do not think this will be an easy win for italy wales are a good team too even if italy are unbeatable and they did not conceid a single goal in the last two games and if they win i think it will be with one goal difference i think i will go with a handicap (+1.5) for wales.

Under is a good choice but if Wales scores a goal the situation could change too

The Italians will come strong, don't even expect them to sit back for wales.
Keeping Daniel James, Gareth Bale's Speed will do.
As well Marco Verratti will sure keep Ramsey behind bars.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2021, 07:41:09 AM

For today, I guess I will go for the Italy vs Wales match. Even if Wales lose the match by a small margin and Switzerland win their match against Turkey, Wales will end up at no.2 position (because they have a better goal difference).

In this group, it seems that there will be no changes in the standings, which country will advance to the next and which country will be eliminated.
Contrast to group B, where the competition is still quite interesting to follow because there are two countries besides Belgium that still have a chance to advance for round 16.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 20, 2021, 07:00:47 AM

Wow! His salary is even higher than that of the coach of the Russian national team ($2.5 million), a country that is also famous for its corruption. What's interesting is that the coach of the Belgian national team which is in the first place in the group receives only $ 1.3 million, and the coach of Finland and Denmark is almost 10 times less.

It is only one aspect of the corruption that has been going on here. At least the Russian dudes are not playing that bad and not making fun of the watchers. If I am not mistaken they won a game. Turkey on the other hand is the only team which has no goals, no points, no wins.

Russia would probably look innocent when compared to Turkey.

I am from Russia and I know what I'm talking about Wink

The Russian team lost to Belgium 3-0 and beat Finland 1-0, this is an average result and in fact much more successful than Turkey, but taking into account many other factors, I still assess the Russian team as an extension of the country itself, which is corrupt from top to bottom.

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Quote from: W Jr. on June 20, 2021, 07:26:28 AM

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on June 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Did you guys expect such a weak performance from the Turkish national team?

Hardly surprising. The whole country is corrupted to the bone.
~20 years ago these dudes won the 3rd spot at the 2002 world cup. Today they are only getting paid to kick the ball to the oblivion.
The coach of Wales, Rob Page's annual salary is 330k €,
Şenol Güneş is getting 3.2m € to make us watch this crap.

His money is very high. Turkish players are not of poor quality either. Individually, they are successful in their own teams. Çağlar Söyüncü played for Leicester City, Merih Demiral for Juventus and Ozan Kabak for Liverpool. Zeki, Yusuf Yazici and Burak Yılmaz had a successful season in the French league champion Lille. If the players are successful, then there is a tactical problem. I also think that the responsibility of this bad Turkish football lies with Coach Şenol Güneş.

You're right, although the Turkish team has not yet won any match of the Euro Cup, they have lost the previous two matches. But the players on the Turkish team are good enough. The Turkish players are skilled enough. But they are not doing well in the national team now. There is a lack of coordination among the team players. The players are not able to adapt to themselves. Hopefully, they will be able to perform well by solving all the problems within the team.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 20, 2021, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: acquafredda on June 20, 2021, 04:34:54 AM

The real bet today is about Italy's clean sheet. I think my fellow Italians will be able to make it and I expect that those guys who still have not played will do their best to make another good impression to Mancini. For him, then, it will be a real challenge to select the best ones.
So, Italy should also bring home the last 3 points of the round.
Sorry Welsh friends, but that is going to be like that.

I do not think this will be an easy win for italy wales are a good team too even if italy are unbeatable and they did not conceid a single goal in the last two games and if they win i think it will be with one goal difference i think i will go with a handicap (+1.5) for wales.

Under is a good choice but if Wales scores a goal the situation could change too

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Need to choose between the two matches today, because both are scheduled at the same time. This why I don't like the recent change in rules by the FIFA. Nowadays which team is going to help any other team by conceding a greater number of goals? For us, it is a great loss because both the matches occur at the same time and we will miss out on one of the matches. For today, I guess I will go for the Italy vs Wales match. Even if Wales lose the match by a small margin and Switzerland win their match against Turkey, Wales will end up at no.2 position (because they have a better goal difference).

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Quote from: acquafredda on June 20, 2021, 04:34:54 AM

The real bet today is about Italy's clean sheet. I think my fellow Italians will be able to make it and I expect that those guys who still have not played will do their best to make another good impression to Mancini. For him, then, it will be a real challenge to select the best ones.
So, Italy should also bring home the last 3 points of the round.
Sorry Welsh friends, but that is going to be like that.

I do not think this will be an easy win for italy wales are a good team too even if italy are unbeatable and they did not conceid a single goal in the last two games and if they win i think it will be with one goal difference i think i will go with a handicap (+1.5) for wales.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 20, 2021, 06:53:24 AM

Quote from: bullrun2024bro on June 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Did you guys expect such a weak performance from the Turkish national team?

Hardly surprising. The whole country is corrupted to the bone.

~20 years ago these dudes won the 3rd spot at the 2002 world cup. Today they are only getting paid to kick the ball to the oblivion.

The coach of Wales, Rob Page's annual salary is 330k €,

Şenol Güneş is getting 3.2m € to make us watch this crap.

His money is very high. Turkish players are not of poor quality either. Individually, they are successful in their own teams. Çağlar Söyüncü played for Leicester City, Merih Demiral for Juventus and Ozan Kabak for Liverpool. Zeki, Yusuf Yazici and Burak Yılmaz had a successful season in the French league champion Lille. If the players are successful, then there is a tactical problem. I also think that the responsibility of this bad Turkish football lies with Coach Şenol Güneş.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 20, 2021, 07:00:47 AM

Wow! His salary is even higher than that of the coach of the Russian national team ($2.5 million), a country that is also famous for its corruption. What's interesting is that the coach of the Belgian national team which is in the first place in the group receives only $ 1.3 million, and the coach of Finland and Denmark is almost 10 times less.

It is only one aspect of the corruption that has been going on here. At least the Russian dudes are not playing that bad and not making fun of the watchers. If I am not mistaken they won a game. Turkey on the other hand is the only team which has no goals, no points, no wins.

Russia would probably look innocent when compared to Turkey.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 20, 2021, 07:00:47 AM

Wow! His salary is even higher than that of the coach of the Russian national team ($2.5 million), a country that is also famous for its corruption. What's interesting is that the coach of the Belgian national team which is in the first place in the group receives only $ 1.3 million, and the coach of Finland and Denmark is almost 10 times less.

This is not exactly a direct comparison. The terms and conditions vary for different countries. I don't know about the details, but I guess the Turkish and Russia coaches are supposed to spend more days with the team when compared to their counterparts in other countries. Also, salary is only one part of the package. And in western nations, a large part is given in the form of various allowances and free services, to lessen the tax bill. But still, the $3 million figure sounds a bit on the higher side, especially considering the recent form of the Turkish side.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on June 20, 2021, 04:50:11 AM

Today I'll be focusing on Switzerland - Turkey: I think that the team that has the best chance of reaching the round of 16 is the selection coached by Vladimir Petkovic, even though Wednesday got smashed 3-0 by Italy.
Turkey, on the other hand, must ask for a miracle to qualify for the knockout phase. The scenario hoped for by Senol Gunes and his men is rather impossible: to beat Switzerland with a thundering 5-0, with the hope of becoming part of the four best thirds.

We can say that Turkey has no hope left. They will play this match as a prestige match. But things are better for Switzerland. They have to beat turkey to be among the top thirds. I think they will turn Turkey's bad form into an opportunity and win this match.

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Quote from: mindrust on June 20, 2021, 06:53:24 AM

Quote from: bullrun2024bro on June 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Did you guys expect such a weak performance from the Turkish national team?

Hardly surprising. The whole country is corrupted to the bone.

~20 years ago these dudes won the 3rd spot at the 2002 world cup. Today they are only getting paid to kick the ball to the oblivion.

The coach of Wales, Rob Page's annual salary is 330k €,

Şenol Güneş is getting 3.2m € to make us watch this crap.

Wow! His salary is even higher than that of the coach of the Russian national team ($2.5 million), a country that is also famous for its corruption. What's interesting is that the coach of the Belgian national team which is in the first place in the group receives only $ 1.3 million, and the coach of Finland and Denmark is almost 10 times less.

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on June 20, 2021, 05:35:05 AM

Did you guys expect such a weak performance from the Turkish national team?

Hardly surprising. The whole country is corrupted to the bone.

~20 years ago these dudes won the 3rd spot at the 2002 world cup. Today they are only getting paid to kick the ball to the oblivion.

The coach of Wales, Rob Page's annual salary is 330k €,

Şenol Güneş is getting 3.2m € to make us watch this crap.

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since yesterday's match between spain and poland there is now a new youngest player who has ever been to play in euro's
Kacper Kozłowski from polish ekstraklasa club pogon szczecin

Perhaps the only record that Turkey will be able to take from the competition. Unless in this last group journey, some team remembers to get a junior to break the record. Roll Eyes

It's actually quite funny to see that everyone in each group still has a chance to advance to the next round, since 4 numbers 3 of the 6 groups still go through. Then it is almost more difficult not to advance to the next stage, even Turkey can still qualify, but ok they need a big victory or at least a victory

I was surprised by Spain's draw with Poland yesterday and also with France's draw with
Hungary on Friday, so yes maybe when/if Spain and France get through the qualifiers
they will be a difference in performance.

I had France to beat Hungary yesterday so I was not happy with a draw.

For Todays matches I am betting on Italy for a win eventhough I would like to see Wales
progress through the qualifiers.

I dont know Switzerland or Turkey.

It’s not uncommon to see favorites in big competitions have problems in the group stage of the competition.
Weaker teams in one game can surprise the favorites, but they do not have the necessary strength and stability to play more such games and reach the end and win the competition.
The successes of small teams like Croatia at the 2018 World Cup or Greece at the 2004 European Championships are very rare and exceptions to the rule.
Despite the current problems, France, Portugal, Spain, and England remain the main favorites of this competition, with Italy and Germany of course.

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Quote from: joker_josue on June 20, 2021, 01:43:26 AM

Today we have:

Group A: Italy vs Wales
Group A: Switzerland vs Turkey

Decision time! Italy has the chance to win the group with a draw against Wales today. I don't think we can expect an exciting game here, since Wales would also secures the second place in the group with that outcome. A 0:0 or 1:1 is pretty likely here in my opinion. For the Swiss, today is all about winning - only with a victory against Turkey can they still have a chance to enter the round of 16 as one of the best third-placed teams. I think there will be a pretty clear result here. The Turkish national team has not been convincing so far and I think Switzerland will win 2:0.

Source: https://www.livesport.com/soccer/europe/euro/

Did you guys expect such a weak performance from the Turkish national team?

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A superb performance by Germany yesterday, I really enjoyed that game. Portugal looked better in the 1st games so I bet on them, I thought it will be easy after the Germans gave them that easy opening goal early on.

They have so many options to choose from, players like Werner, Goretzka and Sane coming off the bench make them really dangerous in the late stages of the games.

I'm looking forward to that group's last games, France really made a mess out of the Hungary game so cannot take it easy against Portugal.

Germany's been underestimated too much after the game against France and, in fact, one could never call the Germans out. That's a great team with amazing players, I bet they'll be in the final 4. Portugal now has difficult path going forward and I'm not sure they'll be able to go to the R16.

Francis managed to be held to a draw with Hungary 1-1 this group was really hell, but I believe German will win this group considering the last opponent faced by German was Hungary, which in fact the skill of German players was above the average players Hungary, The result of this match makes Portugal will fight hard against the French giants who are inhabited by the world's best players.

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I also thought that Hungary could play the match against France in their own country, filled with a huge number of Hungarians. You will notice that support at home. Germany will win against Hungary without any problems, I don't know where that 3rd match will be played, but without a home crowd there is no chance for Hungary anyway, at half time 0-0 and the final score 0-2, for example.

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