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Goldman Sachs uses their own prediction model on the Euro 2020 hehehe. This might be the first of a new movement where the banking industry begins going to sports betting to siphon money from a different type of gambler hehehe.



Football’s Probably Coming Home to England, Goldman Model Predicts

The U.S. bank predicts that England will win its first major soccer tournament in 55 years, after its original pick, Belgium, was eliminated from the Euro 2020 tournament on Friday.

Goldman used data on about 6,000 matches played since 1980 to devise its probability model, which takes into account factors such as current team strength, along with recent performances, home advantage effects, and whether a country is a “tournament team” that outperforms during competitions.


Source https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-05/football-s-probably-coming-home-goldman-soccer-model-predicts
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I say this in relation to Spain, because of the performance it has been showing, not just in the Euro 2020 games.
Of course Spain are a great team, there is no doubt about that. The problem is that I don't see Spain playing as a team. They are very unbalanced, and that is why they have had difficulties. Now, of course, you have all the conditions to win Italy. But I see that it will be difficult for these to achieve this victory. Now, Italy won't have an easy game, nor can it go with the idea that it's won, because it isn't. They will have to work hard to get the win.
I think that Italy will have to try very hard to beat Spain. The Spanish national team can be called great historically, but it is difficult to say this about the current team. Although the current Spanish national team may not be as rich in star names as it was recently, but in principle this composition quite allows you to win a single match and get to the final. Of course, the game will show everything, but it is clearly noticeable that the victories of the Italian national team at this tournament are getting harder with each match, so I think this "tradition" will continue in this match. It will be interesting to see if the Italian national team will allow Spain to take the ball for themselves, as Spain did in previous matches.

I like Spain in the Iniesta era, where have Xavi Hernandez, Xabi Alonso, and lots of support from another talented players, I will continue to support the team if they are still on there. but now, Only Italy looks established for me, a good coach and established player also. Of course, I will continue to support Italy until the final.
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Let's see if your feeling comes true, but I am sure that England will defeat Denmark convincingly.
I guess England 2 vs 0 Denmark, England will qualify to the final stage of UEFA EURO 2020.
My gues 2-1 for England.
We seem to agree, Spain vs England in the Euro final. England clearly has the advantage as hosts, in the course of the group stage they have never lost, their game is getting better. Just look at their goal productivity until the last game, it's increasing. In addition, their mentality is also getting better.

You cannot see Spain capability because you are probably an Italy fan.  Cheesy
Trust me, Spain isn't a small team. They have a chance to reach the final stage.
I am not surprised if Spain can defeat Italy even you cannot see their capability. Also, it is a football game, a weaker team can defeat a stronger team.
As for Spain, it was difficult for them to form in the group stage but because I like their game, I think Spain will dominate the game and win it.
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If Denmark can somehow win against England, I think Denmark will be the champions this season. Because, fate is cooperating with them fatally. The other players are playing great despite their main striker Eriksen not being on the team. England is a very strong team. Those who did not concede a goal. If Denmark can beat England, they can beat either team in the final.

anything is possible, but seeing the track record of England, Denmark will be very difficult to win from England.

Germany was defeated by England with a score that I think was a landslide (2 - 0) and also beat Ukraine with a very landslide score (0 - 4).

Everything will be clear in the field later Cheesy
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I say this in relation to Spain, because of the performance it has been showing, not just in the Euro 2020 games.
Of course Spain are a great team, there is no doubt about that. The problem is that I don't see Spain playing as a team. They are very unbalanced, and that is why they have had difficulties. Now, of course, you have all the conditions to win Italy. But I see that it will be difficult for these to achieve this victory. Now, Italy won't have an easy game, nor can it go with the idea that it's won, because it isn't. They will have to work hard to get the win.
I think that Italy will have to try very hard to beat Spain. The Spanish national team can be called great historically, but it is difficult to say this about the current team. Although the current Spanish national team may not be as rich in star names as it was recently, but in principle this composition quite allows you to win a single match and get to the final. Of course, the game will show everything, but it is clearly noticeable that the victories of the Italian national team at this tournament are getting harder with each match, so I think this "tradition" will continue in this match. It will be interesting to see if the Italian national team will allow Spain to take the ball for themselves, as Spain did in previous matches.
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I honestly don't see Spain capable of winning Italy.
You cannot see Spain capability because you are probably an Italy fan.  Cheesy
Trust me, Spain isn't a small team. They have a chance to reach the final stage.
I am not surprised if Spain can defeat Italy even you cannot see their capability. Also, it is a football game, a weaker team can defeat a stronger team.

I say this in relation to Spain, because of the performance it has been showing, not just in the Euro 2020 games.
Of course Spain are a great team, there is no doubt about that. The problem is that I don't see Spain playing as a team. They are very unbalanced, and that is why they have had difficulties.

Now, of course, you have all the conditions to win Italy. But I see that it will be difficult for these to achieve this victory.
Now, Italy won't have an easy game, nor can it go with the idea that it's won, because it isn't. They will have to work hard to get the win.
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I'm not a Denmark fan but I feel that Denmark will make a surprise there somehow I don't know  Cheesy
Don't be shy, just state that you are a Denmark fan. There is no problem being a fan, it's okay!  Grin
Let's see if your feeling comes true, but I am sure that England will defeat Denmark convincingly.
I guess England 2 vs 0 Denmark, England will qualify to the final stage of UEFA EURO 2020.

I honestly don't see Spain capable of winning Italy.
You cannot see Spain capability because you are probably an Italy fan.  Cheesy
Trust me, Spain isn't a small team. They have a chance to reach the final stage.
I am not surprised if Spain can defeat Italy even you cannot see their capability. Also, it is a football game, a weaker team can defeat a stronger team.

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England defenders who are quite calm and solid in anticipating the opponent's attack are the main factors that make England one of the candidates for this year championship.

Its pretty even between Italy, Spain and England but Denmark could be the dark horse for Euro. Denmark has been great so far in the playoff, 4 goals against Wales and they won against Czech Republic. Czech Republic beat Netherlands so this team is pretty much decent as well. I wont be surprised if somehow Denmark win against England

If Denmark can somehow win against England, I think Denmark will be the champions this season. Because, fate is cooperating with them fatally. The other players are playing great despite their main striker Eriksen not being on the team. England is a very strong team. Those who did not concede a goal. If Denmark can beat England, they can beat either team in the final.
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Ok for some pure speculation on the final results of this Euro 2020, below my thoughts on Italy Spain:
- two completely different teams on completely different stages because while Italy is almost at the top of its shape after a 3yrs of Mancini's work, Spain looks me like a shooting star ready to disappear.
4 yrs ago it was the opposite so I believe Italy should win the match and reach the final.
Spain is not so tough as before. It can seen from the previous matches they have lived during the Euro event. I think they will be easily beaten by Italy. And in the other semifinal, England is predicted to be able to overcome Denmark. So the ideal final will be Italy vs England.
Spain just simply failed to raise another generational talent and thats about it. Even back in the day when La Liga was dominating the world and Real Madrid vs Barcelona games were watched by 100+ million people easily, sometimes even more Spain wasn't even that good, but they had players from those teams that provided a lot to the national team, when you combined Ramos with Pique, and Iniesta with Xavi to other players, it became not so bad even if the biggest talents of the league were playing for other nations (aka messi and ronaldo).

However after those years, they never really got any young stars that could provide something major for the national team, they never got players as good as those names, and that caused them to slowly get worse. Of course they are still one of the best teams, they are in semi finals aren't they? So they are still good, they are just not THAT good.
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I wonder what games you have seen. Some of the teams you listed were very deservedly eliminated. The Netherlands showed one good game

Thats pretty harsh, Netherlands won 3 group stage matches and scored 8 goals. Thats pretty solid but Czech Republic beat them in the playoff, well they were playing with 10 players so yeah Czech took a good advantage of that

when England only conceded 1 goal and of course this will be a new record in the euro competition, namely as a team that has conceded minimal goals.

England has been keeping their clean sheet record for the entire Euro, so far there is none that has scored any goal towards England.

England defenders who are quite calm and solid in anticipating the opponent's attack are the main factors that make England one of the candidates for this year championship.

Its pretty even between Italy, Spain and England but Denmark could be the dark horse for Euro. Denmark has been great so far in the playoff, 4 goals against Wales and they won against Czech Republic. Czech Republic beat Netherlands so this team is pretty much decent as well. I wont be surprised if somehow Denmark win against England
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We have seem strong teams get knocked out...the likes of the Netherlands, Portugal, France, Germany, which leaves me thinking it's anybodies tournament at this point.

I wonder what games you have seen. Some of the teams you listed were very deservedly eliminated. The Netherlands showed one good game, the others were not good. The same with Germany. Germany won only one out of four games and got seven counters. Beyond that, only the game against Portugal was halfway good. No doubt these are great football nations, but they deserved to be eliminated.

This, I'm with you in that case.

The only team which performed as expected was France in my eyes. But they were very unlucky and I guess no one expected Switzerland to win after that wonderful 3-1 from Pogba.
This is the perfect example how strong the will to create or achieve something can be.. So it's kind of their own fault, too, because they didn't raise exactly that, unlike Switzerland.
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We have seem strong teams get knocked out...the likes of the Netherlands, Portugal, France, Germany, which leaves me thinking it's anybodies tournament at this point.

We still have strong teams like England and Italy and I think the winner will come from thai side of the semi's. England has been very impressive in this tourney like in their last game, not conceding any goals. That's quite a record right there and Harry Kane is very confident as you can see I. The way he plays.

This isn't affecting only only Kane but all england squad are they're hyped and ready the bring the trophy home. The England squad is complete currently like they have all aspects checked out for. The strikers, defender etc are very smart provided you scarified yourself for the greatest good
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We have seem strong teams get knocked out...the likes of the Netherlands, Portugal, France, Germany, which leaves me thinking it's anybodies tournament at this point.

I wonder what games you have seen. Some of the teams you listed were very deservedly eliminated. The Netherlands showed one good game, the others were not good. The same with Germany. Germany won only one out of four games and got seven counters. Beyond that, only the game against Portugal was halfway good. No doubt these are great football nations, but they deserved to be eliminated.
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Almost all of my friends choose to bet on Italy, because they think Italy is far superior to Spain.  If Italy wins later, it is certain that they will win the euro this year.  A team that is quite stable in its game is only natural if it is seeded. England will easily beat Denmark if they have a solid team as usual.  Because considering their goal is rarely penetrated and this is also an achievement.

I honestly don't see Spain capable of winning Italy.
In turn, I see an England capable of winning Italy.

It seems that you also see England pass like a train... Grin Seems that the odds are (ofc) for the Lions but Denmark won't beat down easily, is not Ukraine (no offence).
As for the other semi-final between Spain and Italy, like most of us here, I will go with Italy. I believe that is about time for Italy to be in the final and claim the trophy and Spain run out of luck...

I see Italy getting a lot of support from outside fans  Cheesy yes it's only natural because so far they are playing pretty well and convincing
But if we talk about luck then italy can go home empty handed  Grin because there is no benchmark for luck, anyone has the opportunity to get it
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Almost all of my friends choose to bet on Italy, because they think Italy is far superior to Spain.  If Italy wins later, it is certain that they will win the euro this year.  A team that is quite stable in its game is only natural if it is seeded. England will easily beat Denmark if they have a solid team as usual.  Because considering their goal is rarely penetrated and this is also an achievement.

I honestly don't see Spain capable of winning Italy.
In turn, I see an England capable of winning Italy.

It seems that you also see England pass like a train... Grin Seems that the odds are (ofc) for the Lions but Denmark won't beat down easily, is not Ukraine (no offence).
As for the other semi-final between Spain and Italy, like most of us here, I will go with Italy. I believe that is about time for Italy to be in the final and claim the trophy and Spain run out of luck...
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Almost all of my friends choose to bet on Italy, because they think Italy is far superior to Spain.  If Italy wins later, it is certain that they will win the euro this year.  A team that is quite stable in its game is only natural if it is seeded. England will easily beat Denmark if they have a solid team as usual.  Because considering their goal is rarely penetrated and this is also an achievement.

I honestly don't see Spain capable of winning Italy.
In turn, I see an England capable of winning Italy.
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I don't know if people are seeing what I'm seeing in this tournament,that England is not that England before. They have another momentum altogether,a winning spirit and mentality they carry into every single game they play.collectively and in one spirit they play and win,from the defence line to the front line,they are exceptional.They have the most solid defence in the tournament,and that is a major reason why they will win the tournament.Like I said before,that England vs Italy I see at the final,and thereafter,England emerging to be the champions.
Even i did not expect these sort of performance from England and i would never give them a chance to win the tournament but coming down to the last stretch it looks like they are the favorites to win the tournament after a long time, because i have no idea when they won a Euro cup last.
If England play like this for the next two matches they are the champions.
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Denmark reached the EURO 2020 semi final after a horror start, Eriksen cardiac arrest just might be the blessing in disguise which Denmark so dearly needed. Indeed this is beautiful, Denmark lost their first two games but now in the top 4. Absolutely they can reach the final though, a perfect EURO glory!
We have seem strong teams get knocked out...the likes of the Netherlands, Portugal, France, Germany, which leaves me thinking it's anybodies tournament at this point.

A bit of luck and skill and Denmark will be one game away from taking it home but should Italy go through I see them getting it.

Btw is Eriksen out of hospital?

Almost all of my friends choose to bet on Italy, because they think Italy is far superior to Spain.  If Italy wins later, it is certain that they will win the euro this year.  A team that is quite stable in its game is only natural if it is seeded. England will easily beat Denmark if they have a solid team as usual.  Because considering their goal is rarely penetrated and this is also an achievement.

I'm not a Denmark fan but I feel that Denmark will make a surprise there somehow I don't know  Cheesy , I also don't take the risk to bet 1x2 including for the match Spain vs Italy
The best and safest option I think is on both teams to score like in the last quarter-final match there were a lot of both teams to score
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Denmark reached the EURO 2020 semi final after a horror start, Eriksen cardiac arrest just might be the blessing in disguise which Denmark so dearly needed. Indeed this is beautiful, Denmark lost their first two games but now in the top 4. Absolutely they can reach the final though, a perfect EURO glory!
We have seem strong teams get knocked out...the likes of the Netherlands, Portugal, France, Germany, which leaves me thinking it's anybodies tournament at this point.

A bit of luck and skill and Denmark will be one game away from taking it home but should Italy go through I see them getting it.

Btw is Eriksen out of hospital?

Almost all of my friends choose to bet on Italy, because they think Italy is far superior to Spain.  If Italy wins later, it is certain that they will win the euro this year.  A team that is quite stable in its game is only natural if it is seeded. England will easily beat Denmark if they have a solid team as usual.  Because considering their goal is rarely penetrated and this is also an achievement.
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Denmark reached the EURO 2020 semi final after a horror start, Eriksen cardiac arrest just might be the blessing in disguise which Denmark so dearly needed. Indeed this is beautiful, Denmark lost their first two games but now in the top 4. Absolutely they can reach the final though, a perfect EURO glory!
We have seem strong teams get knocked out...the likes of the Netherlands, Portugal, France, Germany, which leaves me thinking it's anybodies tournament at this point.

A bit of luck and skill and Denmark will be one game away from taking it home but should Italy go through I see them getting it.

Btw is Eriksen out of hospital?
He was dismissed from hospital 2 weeks ago after the implantation of a pace maker for arrhythmia. I doubt he could continue his career as a football professional player. I think it is the end of the line for him. Denmark is kind of playing and winning for him.
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