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I wouldn't be surprised as teams are really unpredictable about when to sack a coach. For example, England is still keeping Southgate despite the horrible performance.  Smiley

I don't understand Spalletti as well. He said that he didn't have the energy anymore to move on with Napoli. But a short time later we saw him accepting a national job offer. I mean of course national teams are less busy than a club. But still it doesn't make sense to me. I think the best thing for him would be to stay there instead of managing Italy.  Tongue
England did not show any outstanding performance in the group, so for me they are not as clear a favorite in this match as the bookmakers show. Slovakia played well against Belgium, so I think they are strong enough to play close to England, I might not even be surprised if the match ends in a draw. Spalletti was very surprised me, he managed to make something incomprehensible out of a strong team, all hope was only in Donaruma, but it clearly did not work, Italy completely lost in the middle and were terrible in attack.
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England vs Slovakia

England StartXI: 4-2-3-1

Jordan Pickford; Kyle Walker; John Stones; Marc Guéhi; Kieran Trippier; Kobbie Mainoo; Declan Rice; Bukayo Saka; Jude Bellingham; Phil Foden; Harry Kane

Slovakia StartXI: 4-3-3

Martin Dúbravka; Peter Pekarík; Denis Vavro; Milan Škriniar; Dávid Hancko; Juraj Kucka; Stanislav Lobotka; Ondrej Duda; Ivan Schranz; David Strelec; Lukáš Haraslín

England performance recently is not encouraging, despite finishing first in the table they only one win and two draw in the group while Slovakia had only a single win, draw, and lost which makes them finished in best 3rd place teams in third place. Nothing can be say on my own opinion regarding this match because this tournament is full of surprises, the team we expect much from are declining, let see what they will play.
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I'm trying to find the best value bet for the game between England and Slovakia, unfortunately I couldn't come to a conclusion due to several shenanigans from England lately, either way I've tried my luck with England to win at halftime @ 2+ Odds. I don't see any much value from other possible options.




I hope we can get an interesting match today, because England have been the most boring team in this competition, from my perspective.
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I wonder if Spalletti will be fired? Under him, the Italian team began to play worse.
I wouldn't be surprised as teams are really unpredictable about when to sack a coach. For example, England is still keeping Southgate despite the horrible performance.  Smiley

I don't understand Spalletti as well. He said that he didn't have the energy anymore to move on with Napoli. But a short time later we saw him accepting a national job offer. I mean of course national teams are less busy than a club. But still it doesn't make sense to me. I think the best thing for him would be to stay there instead of managing Italy.  Tongue
From the start, there were many people who doubted Spalletti because he mostly chose young players who were brought to the Euros and even many of the players in the Italian squad did not have experience. I was not surprised by their failure and even since the group stage I have seen that. Spalletti has not succeeded in building this team perfectly, the team's performance is still inconsistent and their performance is also not that impressive.
I think that for the future development of Italian football, Spalletti must be fired, he has shown that he has failed.


England vs Slovakia
Broadly speaking, of course on paper England has a greater chance of winning, but on the field Slovakia looks optimistic by taking advantage of the imbalance in England game, which always struggles to create more opportunities. So even though England are the favorites, there is still a percentage that gives Slovakia a breath of fresh air if the English players have difficulty implementing Southgate's strategy again.
In the group phase, it can be seen that England's performance is not that impressive even though they have a lot of quality players, but there have been many criticisms of the England team's performance so far, as have I, so I think even though England are very favorites, Slovakia still has the opportunity to put up a fierce resistance and make a surprise.
I bet on +1.5 Slovakia in this match.

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Spain vs Georgia
It's also not an easy match for Sylvinho troops because in terms of defense Georgia has solid strength. Spain could indeed come out as winners but the score may be close, depending on how far the Georgia players show their best performance on the field. Finally, in the group stage, Portugal was able to give big difficulties and was unable to break into Georgia's goal. For this reason, I hope Georgia will do the same thing again in the match against Spain.

In what direction do you prediction?
Georgia's last victory over Portugal may not be completely used as a reference because in that match Portugal didn't play hard anymore.
However, Georgia has a lot of positive energy from this victory, the team's confidence and mentality will increase drastically, but this is a sacred match against Spain, the Spanish team will play hard of course and if you look at Spain's performance since the group phase, I think they have a consistent performance. and impressive so that I quite favor Spain to win and I even predict this will be an easy match for Spain.
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I wonder if Spalletti will be fired? Under him, the Italian team began to play worse.

I wouldn't be surprised as teams are really unpredictable about when to sack a coach. For example, England is still keeping Southgate despite the horrible performance.  Smiley

I don't understand Spalletti as well. He said that he didn't have the energy anymore to move on with Napoli. But a short time later we saw him accepting a national job offer. I mean of course national teams are less busy than a club. But still it doesn't make sense to me. I think the best thing for him would be to stay there instead of managing Italy.  Tongue
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Spain vs Georgia
It's also not an easy match for Sylvinho troops because in terms of defense Georgia has solid strength. Spain could indeed come out as winners but the score may be close, depending on how far the Georgia players show their best performance on the field. Finally, in the group stage, Portugal was able to give big difficulties and was unable to break into Georgia's goal. For this reason, I hope Georgia will do the same thing again in the match against Spain.

In what direction do you prediction?
It is possible that goalkeeper Giorgi Mamardashvili will still be a strong wall that will be difficult for the Spanish troops to break down. The reason is that if you look at the previous match, even though Portugal fielded most of their second tier players and there was also Ronaldo, they had a very difficult time breaking into the Georgia goalkeeper's goal and I think Spain has to find a way out of this goalkeeper's greatness.

In terms of attack, Georgia will be led entirely by Kvaratskhelia and this player is like an eel, very slippery to catch. He has a good dribble and great speed and this will be a threat for Spain if they don't pay extra attention to him. Despite it all, Spain have quality players on all sides and this should be a win for them. But if the result is a draw then both teams have to continue into extra time and that will drain the stamina of each player.
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Italy's defeat was totally meaningless, you can't play a match without having clear ideas, yesterday the team was only the backs and no one else's you can't play with a formation and change it then change it the next day, formation without ideas
Italy really deserved to go home, the game on the field was unclear, they often lost possession of the ball, in that match Italy did not display its characteristics at all. Anyway, I was disappointed with what Italy showed, while Switzerland played clearly, organized, attacked effectively and implemented a solid defensive system. Italy defeat is also a warning for today match between England and Slovakia where Southgate must be careful if he is still unable to provide a different game then Slovakia will become England nightmare. The same thing also happens to Spain who will face Georgia, it is possible that either England or Spain will be eliminated.

Either Italy is not playing well or Switzerland is having an impressive performance but, if you look at how Italy played in the match against Switzerland, I think they didn't deserve to win. Even if they had won the match, I don't think they would have gone any further in the next round. Italy played as if they were still in the group phase, where they seemed to be playing too relaxed and there was no determination to catch up, so they had to pay bitterly when the match ended.
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In the end, it was still Germany who won the match against Denmark and even though it was colored by natural phenomena where there was very loud lightning, it did not ignite their enthusiasm to achieve victory as hosts. Kai Havertz repeatedly had opportunities in this match but unfortunately it still didn't result in a goal, but this Arsenal player finally also scored from the spot to open the scoring for Germany.

After that, Germany was not satisfied with their narrow lead and they continued to attack the Danish defense until finally they managed to score a goal through Jamal Musiala. These talented young players are extraordinary in their finishing at such a young age and it seems like Germany's future will depend on one of these players. In my opinion, Germany is still the favorite to win so far among the other teams.
Victory was predicted from the start, there were no surprises, basically Germany was the favorite because its quality was better than Denmark. It can be seen that Germany continued to control this game from the start even though they only managed to score a goal in the second half.

The German squad at the Euros this time is quite an even mix of young players and senior players and it seems that they have been quite consistent since the group stage, especially since Germany as hosts have a slight advantage so they are favourites, that's natural I think.

And in the round of 16 what was a surprise was Italy's defeat, they lost to Switzerland with a score of 2 goals without reply and even Italy's performance in the round of 16 was quite bad, I thought it was a surprise, even though initially Italy was the favourite.
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Italy's defeat was totally meaningless, you can't play a match without having clear ideas, yesterday the team was only the backs and no one else's you can't play with a formation and change it then change it the next day, formation without ideas
Italy really deserved to go home, the game on the field was unclear, they often lost possession of the ball, in that match Italy did not display its characteristics at all. Anyway, I was disappointed with what Italy showed, while Switzerland played clearly, organized, attacked effectively and implemented a solid defensive system. Italy defeat is also a warning for today match between England and Slovakia where Southgate must be careful if he is still unable to provide a different game then Slovakia will become England nightmare. The same thing also happens to Spain who will face Georgia, it is possible that either England or Spain will be eliminated.
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Spalleti was one of the key reasons Italy lost to Switzerland, and Italy was crushed as a result of Spalletti's bad coaching style. Spalletit used too many young players in his starting lineup. He was even adding fagioli and cristante, which I believe were the worst choices made by Spalletit.
Italy must have fired him; things aren't going well for Italy, despite winning the Euro in the previous competition. Spalletti's poor decisions completely devastated Italy.

I recall Jose Mourinho predicting this for Italy, and it is because Spalletti brings so many inexperienced players into the national team.

Spalletti is not entirely to blame because he didn't have many choices, now the players in the Italian squad have not been regenerated since before so there are not many quality players left to help Spalleti to build this squad so that it can perform better.
The defeat against Switzerland was also because Switzerland played much better, while Italy often played inconsistently and if we look at Switzerland's game, it seemed like they were able to control the game so Italy didn't have the opportunity to develop their game.
Agree with you that Spalletti cannot be completely blamed for Italy's failure at EURO 2024, because he also didn't have many choices and he also made his luck by regenerating and placing a lot of young players in the squad. But obviously we have different opinions on this matter and that's not a problem.

The case is different if we compare it with England, for example. Even though they managed to qualify for the round of 16 and in the next few hours they will face Slovakia, their game was disappointing. And I won't be surprised if they lose to Slovakia in this match. And in my opinion this is because their coach cannot take advantage of the existing player composition.

Certainly disappointed because Italy had to return home from Germany early, but they also have to consider if they want to fire Spalletti, whether this is due to the coach's incompetence, or is there something else that is making them fail to appear impressive at EURO 2024 in Germany.
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I think that in the matches of the day, England - Slovakia will be a match between two teams that are evenly matched.
Even though England is the favorite on paper, the football they play is not satisfactory at all. There are very quality players in the team, but Southgate makes the team play defensive-oriented football.
They do not have eye-pleasing football.
There is a possibility that the match will go to overtime. I think the first surprise of the tournament may occur in this match.
The other match is between Spain and Georgia and Spain is the big favourite. In fact, I think Spain will easily eliminate Georgia even if they are down to 10 players at the beginning of the match.
If Spain passes this round, they will be paired with Germany. Maybe it will be an early final, but I see Spain as the favorite in that match too.
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England vs Slovakia
Broadly speaking, of course on paper England has a greater chance of winning, but on the field Slovakia looks optimistic by taking advantage of the imbalance in England game,



Spain vs Georgia
It's also not an easy match for Sylvinho troops because in terms of defense Georgia has solid strength. Spain could indeed come out as winners

In what direction do you prediction?

With the way this round of 16 is being grouped it will be very easy for most gamblers to win there bet because we can easily no the team that has the highest performance, and also for today's match is also obvious that England and Spain will be victorious just like Switzerland and Italy match yesterday, it was actually unfortunate to see the way Italy was struggling, however there performance yesterday proves that they came unprepared, and tomorrow being first of July France will be playing against Belgium and Portugal against Slovenia, perhaps from there previous performances France and Portugal may possibly qualified for another.
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Italy's defeat was totally meaningless, you can't play a match without having clear ideas, yesterday the team was only the backs and no one else's you can't play with a formation and change it then change it the next day, formation without ideas
Italy played very badly, I don't know why they can be that bad, none of the players can bring the team out of pressure. I thought in the second half there would be a significant change in Italy's game, but it turned out not to be even more erratic.
The Swiss players played very aggressively by not letting the Italians have the ball for long, they would immediately try to win the ball and the most impressive thing about them was their patience in building attacks, which was the key to the first goal and also how disciplined their defenders were at the back.

Luciano Spalletti's job is not in jeopardy due to their failure to progress further, as the FIGC has decided Spalletti will be Italy's coach and the next target is the 2026 World Cup, a reshuffle of the Italy squad is definitely in order as there is plenty of time for him to start assessing players for other tournaments.
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Spalletti's tactics turned out to be ineffective at this Euro, the defensive tactics are outdated, if only because they managed to make only one shot on target in the entire game, this is too weak an indicator, and after such weak games with Spain and Switzerland, and the loss of the championship title, Spalletti would rather in total will be fired. Germany looked very good, I liked the way they controlled the ball and overall the influence of Negelsmann was felt, I thought that Denmark could provide more resistance.
It seems like Spalletti was only good when he was coach of the Napoli club. Meanwhile, when he coached the Italian national team, I felt that the Italian team was experiencing a setback compared to before. Spalletti has made many changes to the Italian national team. And this is what makes the Italian national team now have to go home early and fail in the round of 16. And surprisingly enough the one who beat them was Switzerland. After Italy won the previous Euro, now they failed even earlier. This is something that is indeed unexpected. It's just that Italy's performance since the group stage has not looked that good. And yes, the strategy used by Spalletti doesn't feel right.
I don't know how Spalletti was able to pick these sets of players that didn't represent Italy well, the way other of her players did in the last Euro, four years ago that won Italy the Euro title in 2020.
You can imagine how disgraceful it can be, for a former Euro Champion to be kicked out in the round of 16, what a surprise. Now, Italy will wait for another four years to participate in another Euro League match.

I believe by then or before then, the Italy Football Association might sack Spalletti to employ the services of a new coach that will help in building a new national team that will well represent the Italy in Euro League title race.
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My feeling tells me that Slovakia will knock England out of the tournament today, but my mind says: This is England, they can't be beaten by such a small nation. The odds for Slovakia to win are 9, so anyone who bets on that could make a lot of money.

In Spain against Georgia, I think the winner is clearly Spain, the only question I have is whether and how much resistance Georgia will be able to offer?
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Yesterday I warned everyone not to take Switzerland lightly. And look at what happened. Italy is out of the tournament thanks to goals from Remo Freuler and Ruben Vargas. A decade or so ago, such an outcome would have been unimaginable. But then, demographics is not on Italy's side. Their legendary players are all gone, and they have a rapidly ageing population (even when you compare the same with Switzerland).
This is obviously the problem with the Italian side, they have lost their prime team and are unable to get their replacement. I think most countries and club go through this stage at some point and it require serious commitment to be able to build a new team from scratch. This is what I have not seen in the management of the Italian team. I think the same thing is affecting their major teams in their domestic league because the domestic league is a direct reflection of the national team. Let's hope they are able to navigate through this period and come out to be the strong football nation we were once proud of in terms of their physical strength and play pattern.

Anyway, it is not going to be easy for Switzerland either. In all probability, they will be facing England next.
I have learnt the hard way never to write off any team in this Euro competition. If noticed, a lot of this have changed this year and what used to be sure bets are no longer sure. The truth is that England stand a better chance against Slovakia but they have to work hard to get the result.
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It has been visible since the start of the Euro that Italy is playing like the country of Mediakor, I would not be surprised by this 2-0 result from the way they faced Spain and they played like that, it is very clear that the Italian game and players have declined since Buffon's retirement. Giorgio Chiellini, Leonardo Bonucci, and several important Juventus players who were not called by Luciano Spalletti, have lost the title of defending champion in the hands of Italy.
The poor way of playing of the Italian players has been clearly visible since the group stage and what really became visible again was during yesterday's match against Switzerland. This means that the Italian players today are very different from the Italian players in the past, as in the example you mentioned, so it is clearly not surprising that Italy lost by that score. And I think if Italy's opponent had not been Switzerland, there would have been more goals against Italy in that match.
Spalleti was one of the key reasons Italy lost to Switzerland, and Italy was crushed as a result of Spalletti's bad coaching style. Spalletit used too many young players in his starting lineup. He was even adding fagioli and cristante, which I believe were the worst choices made by Spalletit.
Italy must have fired him; things aren't going well for Italy, despite winning the Euro in the previous competition. Spalletti's poor decisions completely devastated Italy.

I recall Jose Mourinho predicting this for Italy, and it is because Spalletti brings so many inexperienced players into the national team.

Spalletti is not entirely to blame because he didn't have many choices, now the players in the Italian squad have not been regenerated since before so there are not many quality players left to help Spalleti to build this squad so that it can perform better.
The defeat against Switzerland was also because Switzerland played much better, while Italy often played inconsistently and if we look at Switzerland's game, it seemed like they were able to control the game so Italy didn't have the opportunity to develop their game.
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It has been visible since the start of the Euro that Italy is playing like the country of Mediakor, I would not be surprised by this 2-0 result from the way they faced Spain and they played like that, it is very clear that the Italian game and players have declined since Buffon's retirement. Giorgio Chiellini, Leonardo Bonucci, and several important Juventus players who were not called by Luciano Spalletti, have lost the title of defending champion in the hands of Italy.
The poor way of playing of the Italian players has been clearly visible since the group stage and what really became visible again was during yesterday's match against Switzerland. This means that the Italian players today are very different from the Italian players in the past, as in the example you mentioned, so it is clearly not surprising that Italy lost by that score. And I think if Italy's opponent had not been Switzerland, there would have been more goals against Italy in that match.
Spalleti was one of the key reasons Italy lost to Switzerland, and Italy was crushed as a result of Spalletti's bad coaching style. Spalletit used too many young players in his starting lineup. He was even adding fagioli and cristante, which I believe were the worst choices made by Spalletit.
Italy must have fired him; things aren't going well for Italy, despite winning the Euro in the previous competition. Spalletti's poor decisions completely devastated Italy.

I recall Jose Mourinho predicting this for Italy, and it is because Spalletti brings so many inexperienced players into the national team.
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In the end, it was still Germany who won the match against Denmark and even though it was colored by natural phenomena where there was very loud lightning, it did not ignite their enthusiasm to achieve victory as hosts. Kai Havertz repeatedly had opportunities in this match but unfortunately it still didn't result in a goal, but this Arsenal player finally also scored from the spot to open the scoring for Germany.

After that, Germany was not satisfied with their narrow lead and they continued to attack the Danish defense until finally they managed to score a goal through Jamal Musiala. These talented young players are extraordinary in their finishing at such a young age and it seems like Germany's future will depend on one of these players. In my opinion, Germany is still the favorite to win so far among the other teams.
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Italy's defeat was totally meaningless, you can't play a match without having clear ideas, yesterday the team was only the backs and no one else's you can't play with a formation and change it then change it the next day, formation without ideas
Italy journey at Euro 2024 ended after only winning once and losing 2 times in 4 matches, the negative results achieved by Italy included being humiliated by Switzerland due to the lack of quality possessed by the Italian national team coached by Luciano Spalletti. Italy who was the defending champion, was unable to match the strength of Switzerland. The very poor game displayed by Italy made Luciano Spalletti name the target of anger and criticism.
Italy really didn't have any quality at all in this Euro, their game was very different from when they won the trophy at the previous Euro. Italy's failure in the round of 16 will leave a bad impression on its coach, Spalletti is considered incompetent in selecting the players who will be brought to Germany.
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